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Evangelical Christians say they are the new victims of intolerance - they're persecuted for condemning homosexuality.
May 5th, 2013
06:00 AM ET

When Christians become a 'hated minority'

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - When Peter Sprigg speaks publicly about his opposition to homosexuality, something odd often happens.

During his speeches, people raise their hands to challenge his assertions that the Bible condemns homosexuality, but no Christians speak out to defend him.

“But after it is over, they will come over to talk to me and whisper in my ear, ‘I agree with everything you said,’" says Sprigg, a spokesman for The Family Research Council, a powerful, conservative Christian lobbying group.

We’ve heard of the “down-low” gay person who keeps his or her sexual identity secret for fear of public scorn. But Sprigg and other evangelicals say changing attitudes toward homosexuality have created a new victim: closeted Christians who believe the Bible condemns homosexuality but will not say so publicly for fear of being labeled a hateful bigot.

As proof, Sprigg points to the backlash that ESPN commentator Chris Broussard sparked recently. Broussard was called a bigot and a purveyor of hate speech when he said an NBA player who had come out as gay was living in “open rebellion to God.” Broussard said the player, Jason Collins, was “living in unrepentant sin” because the Bible condemns homosexuality.

“In the current culture, it takes more courage for someone like Chris Broussard to speak out than for someone like Jason Collins to come out,” says Sprigg, a former pastor. “The media will hail someone who comes out of the closet as gay, but someone who simply expresses their personal religious views about homosexual conduct is attacked.”

When is disagreement hate?

Bryan Litfin, a theology professor at Moody Bible Institute in Illinois, says Christians should be able to publicly say that God designed sex to take place within a marriage between a man and a woman.

“That isn’t so outrageous,” Litfin says. “Nobody is expressing hate toward homosexuals by saying that. Since when is disagreement the same as hate?”

But quoting the Bible doesn't inoculate anyone from becoming a bigot or hater, some scholars say. There's a point at which a Christian's opposition to homosexuality can become bigotry, and even hate speech, they say.

Crossing such a line has happened many times in history.

A literal reading of the Bible was used to justify all sorts of hatred: slavery, the subjugation of women and anti-Semitism, scholars and pastors say.

“Truly damaging speech cannot be excused just because it expresses genuine religious belief,” says Mark D. Jordan, author of “Recruiting Young Love: How Christians Talk about Homosexuality.”

“Some religious beliefs, sincerely held, are detestable. They cannot be spoken without disrupting social peace,” says Jordan, a professor at the John Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis.

The point where religious speech becomes hate speech is difficult to define, though, scholars and activists say.

The Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama is a nonprofit civil rights group that combats and monitors hate groups. Three years ago, it designated the Family Research Council, the group that Sprigg represents, as a hate group - a characterization the group stridently rejects.

Mark Potok,  a center spokesman, says there’s no shared definition of what constitutes hate speech.

“There is no legal meaning. It’s just a phrase,” Potok says. “Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder.”

'One of the most hated minorities?'

Intolerance may be difficult to define, but some evangelicals say they have become victims of intolerance because of their reverence for the Bible.

The conservative media culture is filled with stories about evangelicals being labeled as “extremists” for their belief that homosexuality is a sin.

Their sense of persecution goes beyond their stance on homosexuality. There are stories circulating of evangelical students being suspended for opposing homosexuality, a teacher fired for giving a Bible to a curious student, and the rise of anti-Christian bigotry.

A blogger at The American Dream asked in one essay:

“Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?”

The reluctance of evangelicals to speak out against homosexuality is often cited as proof they are being forced into the closet.

Joe Carter, editor for The Gospel Coalition, an online evangelical magazine, wrote a blog post entitled “Debatable: Is the Christian Church a ‘Hate Group’?" He warned that young people will abandon “orthodox” Christian churches that teach that homosexuality is a sin for fear of being called haters.

“Faux civility, embarrassment, prudishness and a fear of expressing an unpopular opinion has caused many Christians to refrain from explaining how homosexual conduct destroys lives,” Carter wrote.

Some Christians fear that opposing homosexuality could cause them to lose their jobs and “haunt them forever,” Carter says.

“It’s easier to just go along,” says Carter, who is also author of “How to Argue Like Jesus.” “You don’t want to be lumped in with the bigots. That’s a powerful word."

Edward Johnson, a communication professor at Campbell University in North Carolina, says we are now living in a "postmodern" era where everything is relative and there is no universally accepted truth. It's an environment in which anyone who says "this is right" and "that is wrong" is labeled intolerant, he says.

There was a time when a person could publicly say homosexuality was wrong and people could consider the statement without anger, he says. Today, people have reverted to an intellectual tribalism where they are only willing to consider the perspective of their own tribe.

“They are incapable of comprehending that someone may have a view different than theirs,” Johnson says. “For them anyone who dares to question the dogma of the tribe can only be doing so out of hatred.”

Sprigg, from the Family Research Council, says his condemnation of homosexual conduct does not spring from intolerance but a desire to protect gays from harmful conduct, he says.

Sprigg, a senior fellow for policy studies at the council, wrote in a council pamphlet that homosexual men are more likely to engage in child sexual abuse than are straight men. He also wrote that gay men are also afflicted with a higher rate of sexually transmitted diseases and mental illness as well.

Sprigg says he does not believe homosexuality is a choice and that “personal testimonies" and "clinical experience” show that some people “can and do change from gay to straight.”

“Maybe we need to do a better job of showing that we are motivated by Christian love,” Sprigg says. “Love is wanting the best for someone, and acting to bring that about.”

'That's a lie'

Potok, from the Southern Poverty Law Center, has little use for the love Sprigg talks about.

He calls it hatred, and his voice rose in anger when he talked about the claims by Sprigg and other Christian groups that gay men are more predisposed to molest children and that homosexual behavior is inherently harmful.

He says the Southern Poverty Law Center didn’t designate the Family Research Group a hate group because they view homosexuality as a sin or oppose same-sex marriage, Potok says. There are plenty of Christian groups who hold those beliefs but are not hate groups, he says.

A group becomes a hate group when it attacks and maligns an entire class of people for their “immutable characteristics,” Potok says. The Family Research Council spreads known falsehoods about gays and lesbians, he says, such as the contention that gay men are predisposed to abuse children.

“That’s a lie,” Potok says. “These guys are engaging in straight-up defamation of a very large group of people. There are not many things much worse than you can say in America about somebody than they are a child molester.”

Potok scoffed at Spriggs’ claim that the council and other evangelical anti-gay groups are victims of intolerance.

“That’s whining on the part of people who spend their days and nights attacking gay people and then some people criticize them and they don’t like it,” he says. “That’s pathetic. It reminds me of slave owners complaining that people are saying ugly things about them.”

What the Bible says

What about the popular evangelical claim, “We don’t hate the sinner, just the sin” – is that seen as intolerance or hate speech when it comes to homosexuality?

There are those who say you can’t hate the sin and love the sinner because being gay or lesbian is defined by one’s sexual behavior; it’s who someone is.

“Most people who identify as gay and lesbian would say that this is not an action I’m choosing to do; this is who I am,” says Timothy Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible: The Unexpected History of an Accidental Book.”

Beal, a religion professor at Case Western University in Ohio, says it should be difficult for any Christian to unequivocally declare that the Bible opposes homosexuality because the Bible doesn’t take a single position on the topic. It's an assertion that many scholars and mainline Protestant pastors would agree with.

Some people cite Old Testament scriptures as condemning homosexuality, such as  Leviticus 18:22 - “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” But other Christians counter by saying they are not bound by the Old Testament.

There are those who also cite New Testament scriptures like Romans 1:26-27 - “… Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men. …”

Beal, however, says Jesus said little about sex. And the Apostle Paul, who wrote Romans, was probably referring to male prostitution and men having sexual relations with boys, a practice in the Greco-Roman world.

“Paul does not understand genetics and sexual orientation the way we understand it now as something much more than a choice,” says Beal.

Some evangelicals say Christians can’t change their view of biblical truth just because times change. But some scholars reply:

Sure you can. Christians do it all the time.

Denying a woman’s ability to preach in church was justified by scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:11-12 - “… I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” But many churches have abandoned that teaching - and some scholars say a woman preached the first Christian sermon, when Mary Magdalene proclaimed that Jesus had risen.

Slaveholders in 19th century America justified slavery through a literal reading of the Bible, quoting Titus 2:9-10 – “Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything. …” And anti-Semitism was justified by the claims that Jews killed Jesus, such as Matthew 27: 25-26 - “Let his blood be on us and on our children.”

Litfin, from Moody Bible Institute, acknowledged that the Bible once sanctioned slavery, but he said that practice was a “cultural expression” that changed over time. Evangelicals who oppose same-sex marriage by citing the Bible are on more solid ground, he says.

“Marriage is a universal and timeless institution that God set up for maximum human flourishing. He set it up in the first book of the Bible with the story of Adam and Eve. It is consistent throughout the whole Bible. … Marriage is in a different category than those cultural things.”

Public jousts over the Bible's stance on homosexuality rarely change people’s minds. What changes is when people get to know gay and lesbian people as friends and hear their story, says Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible.”

“If you open up to that other person genuinely, you basically come to a point where you have to sacrifice them to your ideology or crack open your ideology to make a hospitable place for them,” Beal says.

One Christian pastor who is gay says the uproar over the ESPN commentator’s comments can actually be good,  because debates help settle moral disputes.

“What appears to us as antiquated and prejudicial now was once a disputed issue that required debate,” says the Rev. Richard McCarty, a minister in the United Church of Christ and a religious studies professor at Mercyhurst University in Pennsylvania.

Until the debate over homosexuality is settled - if it ever is - there may be plenty of evangelical Christians who feel as if they are now being forced to stay in the closet.

Carter, the evangelical blogger, says he foresees a day when any church that preaches against homosexuality will be marginalized. Just as many churches now accept divorce, they will accept sexual practices once considered sinful.

“It’s getting to the point,” he says, “where churches are not going to say that any sexual activity is wrong.”

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Belief • Bible • Christianity • Church • Church and state • Culture wars • Protest • Sex • Sexuality • Sports

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  1. Tarryl

    It's so fascinating that people can whine about being persecuted for their beliefs, while at the same time having zero empathy for how their speech hurts others for theirs.

    And by the way, for a straight Christian who's against gays: that is your religious BELIEFS. For gay people, it's their LIVES. Don't be surprised that you feel scared of speaking your hate aloud. Why would you be surprised by that? That's like being surprised when PETA members are offended that you walk into a PETA meeting with a fur-skin coat, eating ground beef

    June 16, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
  2. Science

    Fake science poster below ..............black cats ?

    No divine designer needed.................so lol??............your KJV.............is BULLSH-IT

    Video animation: RNA interference

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    June 16, 2013 at 6:56 am |
  3. Science

    Science in itself is supposed to be unbiased because if its not unbiased then the results will be biased because you will not look farther than a result that confirms your theory. So how much do you think science has lied to us or more specifically the people behind science that have a personal point to prove with egos galore. Critical thinking is not possible with bias or preconceived Ideas. Thats why I love Einstein he loved science but was never afraid to admit that the origins in life were created because of the complexity and design cannot come from chance; He did not have to prove anything he was a explorer able to put aside worshiping science as god unlike some here that have not one original thought or idea. What Einstein saw was to perfect and mathematically correct and could not just happen so while he was not a Christian he did contribute the universe to God.

    June 15, 2013 at 10:09 pm |
    • Science

      Hey .................the black cats are going to get you over on that superman thread Austin..............the lions are out

      no divine creator needed the KJV that the ICR likes so much is Bullsh-it.

      Adam and his bone.

      June 16, 2013 at 8:18 am |
  4. Science

    The supposed expert science behind evolution that they don't want you to hear
    Heidelberg man was built around a jaw bone later identified to be human
    Nebraska man Scientifically built up from one tooth, later to be found to be the tooth of a extinct pig
    Piltdown man Jaw bone to be found to be from a modern ape
    Peking man Supposedly five hundred thousand years old but all evidence has disappeared
    My personal favorite because this is were we were told we were decedents from in school what a load
    neanderthal man found to be the skeleton of a old man with arthritis
    So when you hear arguements for evolution know that there are many questions unanswered.

    June 15, 2013 at 9:51 pm |
    • tallulah13

      The beautiful thing about science is that it's self-correcting. We know about mistakes in the fossil record because scientists realize their mistakes, make them public, then exclude them from the evidence.

      Religion contains no such fail-safes. Fallacies are embraced and turned into dogma.

      June 16, 2013 at 3:33 pm |
    • Science

      Yes but the shame is the truth and corrected action is put in place with almost no notification and after the lie has already been taught as truth. That is a lie, that is deceit, at the very least. This also does not address that how many proofs perceived as facts are really lies. So how about evolution itself, is that going to be proven one day that it cannot hold up worse than its already failing? What would be said then, OOPS. If what is said now is the truth confirmed by many but really its a lie, then how will all know when the real truth will be found according to scientists?

      June 16, 2013 at 11:27 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Unfortunately, fraudulent scientists and science do exist, but as above, science is self-correcting and frauds are found out relatively quickly. On the other hand, fraudulent religions persist for centuries – just look at The Big Three, judaism, christianity and islam, all (unfortunately) going strong despite no evidence for any of them.

      June 16, 2013 at 11:36 pm |
    • Science

      Actually its not the frauds that brought these findings up they were real scientists. Also they were not found quickly and in fact a generation was taught on these lies. Impressionable young minds were swayed at these findings for awhile. I would say the same miscalculations by men of science happen all the time. Each as you put it builds on anothers work but with one small mistake it can all come down like a house of cards. What about evolution, the Higgs has caused some problems for this theory more so than it already has. Maybe finally we can admit this was a grand hoax and find something that really fits how the universe was formed. Look with eyes open no preconceived idea of the origins of man and the universe and lets see where that leads. Not from one mans thoughts in looking at things but from real science limited by what we know it will always be imperfect but at least we will not be held by dead works.

      June 19, 2013 at 7:48 am |
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  6. Science

    Some interesting facts about DNA yup just came from nothing LOL. the amount of information or code in your DNA put in books is enough to fill the grand canyon 78 times more information than a yodabyte of information, How fearfully and wonderfully made we are. Science cannot decipher DNA so how can it conclusively declare evolution correct.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3yNju1_-CMk

    June 13, 2013 at 9:54 pm |
    • Science

      The fake is posting again.

      Why Did the Chicken Lose Its Penis?

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      June 13, 2013 at 10:02 pm |
    • Science

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      June 14, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
  7. Science

    Foe fake science poster below

    Maybe the dinobird will swoop down and take the ICR ,RCC and the Discovery Insti-tute away.

    Evolution again the Dinobird.............no god(s) needed.

    X-Rays Reveal New Picture of 'Dinobird' Plumage Patterns

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/11/pope-francis-gay-lobby-exists-inside-vatican/#comments
    June 11, 2013 —

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130611204530.htm

    Or the action plan will help

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    June 12, 2013 at 2:17 pm |
  8. Science

    Observation is one scientific method approved that can be done by anyone having knowledge in that field. Well we have one witness a Roman guard sent to make sure Jesus was dead that day became a strong witness that truly they put to death the Son of God. What did this man see in the way Jesus died on the cross that caused this hardened battle ready solider who had seen so many die proclaim, this truly was the Son of God! How amazing that even in the act of dying not one second was wasted in testimony of who Jesus was. How many times in life do we miss the opportunity to witness who Jesus is to us, yet His dying breath when Jesus said Father forgive them and then gave up His life, not taken from Him but giving it freely do we see the hardest of hearts acknowledge that. This truly was the Son of God. Did the guard see that men dying in front of him had their lives taken away and saw the contrast that Jesus gave up His life that made him a believer?

    June 12, 2013 at 8:55 am |
    • Science

      Hey fake science poster you smarter than a 5th grader ?

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      Apr. 4, 2013 — A decade ago, spurred by a question for a fifth-grade science project, University of Washington physicist John Cramer devised an audio recreation of the Big Bang that started our universe nearly 14 billion years ago.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130404170154.htm

      June 12, 2013 at 9:01 am |
    • Science

      Wow some fruitcake from xmas past ...................and he is the Mayor.

      Fla. Mayor Objects to Humanist Week Because Group Doesn't 'Believe in Jesus Christ'

      Read more at http://global.christianpost.com/news/fla-mayor-objects-to-humanist-week-because-group-doesnt-believe-in-jesus-christ-97562/#gmsx9mc9zyshz4kz.99

      June 12, 2013 at 9:35 am |
    • Science

      Science knows the problem with theories that is the reason that they are tested and retested until one day they get all the wrong conclusions ironed out. What we see is evolution, a theory that there is problems with that is accepted as fact, to the exclusion of all else. This is brain washing at its finest mass hysteria is also pretty close. Would you eat a cake before its done baking, then why do you accept theory as fact, why do you not question the problems with a man one day sitting and writing down how the world came into being without any scientific evidence only observation? That to me is religious and nonscientific especially since all have been trying for years to prove the theory. So one man names it and others jump on board to try to prove it and its not worship or religion yea right.

      June 12, 2013 at 10:34 am |
    • Science

      Hey fake science poster above....................stick the bible where it belongs and replace with funky ribbers.

      Salvation Army says “Gays Need to Be Put to Death”

      by David Volz posted on June 10, 2013 08:15PM GMT

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      June 12, 2013 at 10:47 am |
    • In Santa we trust

      Fake Science, While it is true that all mechanisms involved in evolution are not fully understood, there is no doubt that evolution happened and is happening. What else explains DNA, common descent, the geographical spread, the simpler organisms are the oldest, etc. Read a few books on the subject – I like "Your Inner Fish" by Neil Shubin.

      June 12, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • Science

      Evolution again the Dinobird.............no god(s) needed.

      X-Rays Reveal New Picture of 'Dinobird' Plumage Patterns
      June 11, 2013 —

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130611204530.htm

      June 12, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
    • Science

      To all bible thumpers/fake science poster you are full of BS............god(s) did not make US or the reptiles !

      How many years ago ?........................is that you Austin the fake.

      High Diversity of Flying Reptiles in England 110 Million Years Ago

      June 12, 2013 — Brazilian paleontologists Taissa Rodrigues, of the Federal University of Espirito Santo, and Alexander W. A. Kellner, of the National Museum of the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, have just presented the most extensive review yet available of toothed pterosaurs from the Cretaceous of England. The study features detailed taxonomic information, diagnoses and photographs of 30 species and was published in the open access journal ZooKeys.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130612101853.htm

      June 13, 2013 at 6:04 am |
    • Science

      Evolution teaches things go from complex to simple but that does not Explain DNA in any way. If you knew about DNA you would question how could something so beautifully orchestrated come from nothing. DNA is awesome and intelligent so this came from some slimy pond, yea right, there's a bridge for sale also. Not even the most sophisticated lab has been able to produce a living cell from non living matter, yet they want you to believe that they know how life was formed when they themselves cannot produce life.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4dWimXdtzWs

      June 13, 2013 at 9:47 pm |
    • Science

      Hey Austin/chad fake science poster chomp on this bone................you know......the bible and the fake bone.

      The bears sh-its where the stones lay too.

      Discovery Channel – Prehistoric New York

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj0cP3A9FFc

      June 15, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
  9. light

    For Christians please read this:
    If you as a father or mother has to choose one of the below two choices, please tell me which one you will choose:
    1-all your kids are to die.
    Or
    2-You'll be beaten to death.
    Normally and logically all of you will choose the second one.
    Why that choice? Because dying for one time is better than dying every day.
    Those who lost their kids are dying every day to the rest of their life.
    Also Those who are sick with dangerous diseases are dying every day.
    Those who lost their wives or husbands or beloveds are dying every day.
    And too many others are suffering and dying every hour because of the pain of the soul not the body.
    Actually the suffering body is nothing comparing with the suffering soul.
    Actually That concept destroying your faith from the base……………how?
    We can ask for how many hours the Christ suffered? Two hours? three hours? ten hours?
    Actually If he was sick for many years, or if he lost his family or if he lost much of his beloveds and dears or if he passed all these things then we can say that he suffered for the human kind.
    But suffering by beaten for few hours for all the human kind for all the time a little child can not believe it.
    That is why you can find too much atheists in your sociaty because what they found in Christianity is against the logic and the brain.
    If the forgiveness is by beaten, then what a cheap price for forgiveness.

    June 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • Science

      The EARTH was not created by a fairy in the sky.

      The water and chondrites................life providing stones.

      Water On Moon, Earth Came from Same Primitive Meteorites

      Water On May 9, 2013 — The water found on the moon, like that on Earth, came from small meteorites called carbonaceous chondrites in the first 100 million years or so after the solar system formed, researchers from Brown and Case Western Reserve universities and Carnegie Insti-tution of Washington have found.Moon, Earth Came from Same Prim-itive Meteorites

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130509142102.htm

      June 12, 2013 at 6:17 am |
    • Science

      Glancing off the facts and points of Jesus death are what we as Christians have come to expect from blind atheists and science. If you research Jesus death you will find things that confirm His authority and deity. I would not expect you to be able to comprehend that just the same reason that atheists cannot understand Christians. When you research then come and maybe we can have a intelligent discussion instead of using words you your own failed pitiful logic.

      June 12, 2013 at 7:53 am |
    • Science

      Fake science poster above..................green is the color is it not ?

      Three-Billion-Year-Old Microfossils Include Plankton

      June 6, 2013 — Spindle-shaped inclusions in three-billion-year-old rocks are microfossils of plankton that probably inhabited the oceans around the globe during that time, according to an international team of researchers.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130606155123.htm

      June 12, 2013 at 8:52 am |
    • Science

      Is there Darkness? Is there cold?

      June 15, 2013 at 9:56 pm |
    • Science

      Fake poster science...........look for it !

      Chondrules = cool life..................freshly cut .from trip to the woods yesterday.

      Craetionists = 1900 million year old fossils by Lake Superior Canada side.

      June 17, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
  10. Science

    With bones.

    The evolution deal again ...............no god(s) needed .............fossils !

    Bone Tumor in 120,000-Year-Old Neandertal Discovered

    June 7, 2013 — The first-known definitive case of a benign bone tumor has been discovered in the rib of a young Neandertal who lived about 120,000 years ago in what is now present-day Croatia. The bone fragment, which comes from the famous archaeological cave site of Krapina, contains by far the earliest bone tumor ever identified in the archaeological record.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130605190144.htm

    June 10, 2013 at 7:51 pm |
    • Science

      Martian Clay Contains Chemical Implicated in the Origin of Life, ...........Chad..........share with the ICR.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130610220132.htm

      Meteorites and water. made us aye.

      Oops and that carbon – 14 + (U-Pb).............uranium lead dating Austin.

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/06/hear-what-valedictorian-said-for-cheers/#comments

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/18/godless-mom-strikes-a-chord-with-parents/comment-page-147/#comment-2409354

      Check out that little blue box

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/03/fairway-to-heaven-gods-golfers/#comments

      It is between the ears Chad..................mind games.

      June 11, 2013 at 9:34 am |
  11. lol??

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    Dragonites, can't find your own blog??

    June 10, 2013 at 7:21 am |
    • Science

      Agree the bible is BS !!!

      Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply As One Man, One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/biblical-marriage-iowa-scholars-op-ed_n_3397304.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/24/has-the-oklahoma-atheist-been-saved/#comments

      June 10, 2013 at 7:38 am |
    • Science

      58,000 resultsAny time .....................Hey lol??.............the matrix............no horn-y red beast required or needed !

      When religious beliefs become evil: 4 signs – CNN Belief Blog ...

      religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/28/when-religious-beliefs-becomes...

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      June 10, 2013 at 8:59 am |
    • Science

      Hey lol?? hope you know about this one .............really god(s) did not make US.

      Ötzi the Iceman's Dark Secrets: Protein Investigation Supports Brain Injury Theory

      June 10, 2013 — After decoding the Iceman's genetic make-up, a research team from the European Academy of Bolzano/Bozen (EURAC), Saarland University, Kiel University and other partners has now made another major breakthrough in mummy research: using just a pinhead-sized sample of brain tissue from the world-famous glacier corpse,
      the team was able to extract and analyse proteins to further support the theory that Ötzi suffered some form of brain damage in the final moments of his life.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130610084123.htm

      June 10, 2013 at 11:31 am |
  12. lol??

    lol??
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    lol??
    Your hope in a flood is for naught. BTW, been there, done that. BBBBbbbwwwwaaaaaahahahhahaha

    "Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth."

    Dragonites, mama earth WANTS YOU.

    June 10, 2013 at 7:04 am |
    • Science

      From around the world faithy/lol??

      Catholic Church ‘in denial’ about vocations

      Disaster facing church unless it faces reality, says Fr Brendan Hoban

      http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/catholic-church-in-denial-about-vocations-1.1422378

      June 10, 2013 at 7:17 am |
    • Science

      And lol?? you are the fruitiest of them ALL.............no fvcking horn-y red beast needed.

      You know geology and fvcking chondrites too !

      New 'Embryonic' Subduction Zone Found

      June 17, 2013 — A new subduction zone forming off the coast of Portugal heralds the beginning of a cycle that will see the Atlantic Ocean close as continental Europe moves closer to America.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130617104614.htm

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority/?replytocom=2407952#respond

      June 17, 2013 at 11:39 am |
  13. Science

    About 52,800,000 results (0.25 seconds) .............from Google this time LL

    Showing results for science wins god loses

    With his speech, valedictorian brings God to graduation – CNN ...

    religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/06/hear-what...said.../comment-page-38/

    3 days ago – https://www.facebook.com/ScienceWinsGodLoses ... Science likes war with its unlimited budgets and no rules and he who owns the gold rules.

    June 9, 2013 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse | Reply

    Science

    But science does NOTlike wars lol??...................but does like the gold chondrites and comets create you KNOW !

    June 9, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |

    June 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • Science

      Got cookie crumbs all over yourself maybe lol??

      June 9, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
    • Science

      Go splat chad/Austin and lol??

      Science wins over creationism in South Korea

      Government asks publishers to retain examples of evolution in science textbooks.

      http://www.nature.com/news/science-wins-over-creationism-in-south-korea-1.11377

      June 9, 2013 at 6:39 pm |
  14. nothern Light

    "“But after it is over, they will come over to talk to me and whisper in my ear, ‘I agree with everything you said,’" says Sprigg, a spokesman for The Family Research Council, a powerful, conservative Christian lobbying group."

    In order to lose you have to exist first.

    June 9, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
  15. David Harley

    I can't think why ultra-conservative Protestants should be so upset by a little persecution, real or imagined. They are surely glad to be laying up treasure in heaven, unless all this noise is just a means of stifling their own doubts.

    Matthew 5:11-12 (KJV)

    Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

    Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

    June 8, 2013 at 6:22 pm |
    • Science

      The e word wins all the time creationists ..........no god(s) made US............get over IT

      Make sure to highlight above phrase..............then click on the little blue box and search with Bing.

      Think out side the box and have fun .

      June 9, 2013 at 6:42 am |
  16. Science

    Hey creationists........Chad too..........have fun.

    Science Wins God Loses | Facebook

    https://www.facebook.com/ScienceWinsGodLoses

    "Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you ... are all over it. ... that says I must submit to him or suffer agonizing punishment for all time?

    8,000,000 results Any time

    June 8, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      science, without God scientists would be unemployed.

      June 8, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
    • Science

      15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense: Scientific American

      http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=15-answers-to-creationist

      Over time we will fill in the gaps ... implication in section #5 that "all creationists" employ out of ... it's ALL man made hubbaloo! Don't believe a WORD ...

      June 8, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
  17. LIGHT

    The world now is ruling by the antichrist but no one wants to believe.

    Especially US is completely under the antichrist control because he is ruling the world thru it.

    CNN is one of his official channels which through he can control the brains and concepts of people.

    He planned for the 9/11 attacks and they said Muslims did it, and as usual people believe whatever they are saying.

    See now how he can play with your brains and eyes using numbers,letters and words to know what is going on and what CNN is:

    Take a look on the CNN logo and read it upside and down you will get............. MD.......it means (M)onth and (D)ay.

    Read it from left to right you will get.............. 911.

    Read it from right to left and be ready for the shoke as you will get...............WTC......... read the T upside down.

    Please tell those who are sleeping to awake before it is too late.

    June 8, 2013 at 8:39 am |
    • Science

      Hey LIGHT...........good place for you to learn something............how old are the microfossils LIGHT ?

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/earth_climate/environmental_science/

      Three-Billion-Year-Old Microfossils Include Plankton

      June 6, 2013 — Spindle-shaped inclusions in three-billion-year-old rocks are microfossils of plankton that probably inhabited the oceans around the globe during that time, according to an international team of researchers.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130606155123.htm

      June 8, 2013 at 8:43 am |
    • rabidatheist

      "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.' Romans 13:1 I guess it's god's fault.

      June 8, 2013 at 9:04 am |
    • Science

      The e word wins all the time creationists ..........no god(s) made US............get over IT

      June 8, 2013 at 9:44 am |
    • kcdad

      Claiming something in The Bible is something from God is a lie. It isn't just a matter of belief. There is no reason to believe The Bible came from anything other than the mind and hand of man. So, an HONEST person would NEVER say GOD says this or that.

      So, now to "anti-christ" and your CNN nonsense. There is no such thing as THE anti-christ, or the devil. Please loosen your tin foil.

      June 8, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
  18. Science

    Learn the truth about church about the US history who separatists really were and why the Bible was not printed in English till the 1500's. Jesus is coming, atheists here look at the church as it was before the 1500's as if it is a gov controlled now open up let the truth in and you will be set free.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tnxCbEuL5rE

    June 7, 2013 at 8:35 pm |
    • Science

      Fake poster above...............category for vid is film and animation...................go figure........the truth is in the DNA link

      below !

      June 7, 2013 at 8:49 pm |
    • kcdad

      Revisionist History is not History. Cameron is a MORON.
      The truth is that the pilgrims were less than 1/3 of the people on the Mayflower and they intentionally landed in Massachusetts because they knew there was a failed settlement there they could quickly move into. A plague of European diseases had decimated the native American population... Try watching Shadow of Hate if you want to know about our "church" beginnings.

      June 8, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • Science

      K took a look interesting all surface stuff some true some lies but just like anything else your hate only allows you to see the surface. You are no different than what you condemn read the Bible it has nothing to do with the actions of man in the clip and everything to do with the same kind of tyranny that the Pilgrims were trying to get away from. I will say this that once the Pilgrims came over here there were alot who came over after that took to use the Gospel to their own greed.

      June 12, 2013 at 8:01 am |
  19. Pantheist

    Christians and other religious people need to apply their beliefs to THEIR lives, not everybody else's.

    June 7, 2013 at 1:08 pm |
    • Science

      The more creationists....know.......chad to...............might help them

      Destiny & DNA......................World Science Festival

      http://new.livestream.com/accounts/4044190/events/2110223

      June 7, 2013 at 7:34 pm |
    • Science

      Oops..................too

      June 7, 2013 at 7:35 pm |
    • faith

      i agree

      so, that's y nazi god hating fascists remind xtards of every seeming sin they commit

      June 7, 2013 at 7:53 pm |
    • Science

      Hey faithy

      Read some where that Chad/faithy needs a cookie !

      The e word wins all the time creationists ..........no god(s) made US............get over IT

      Make sure to highlight above phrase..............then click on the little blue box and search with Bing.

      Think out side the box and have fun .

      The little blue box has new links today !

      9-18 of 27,000,000 results Any time

      My take: A word to Christians – Be nice – CNN Belief Blog ...

      religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/09/my-take-a-word-to-christians-be-nice

      Feb 09, 2013 · ... who have been made in God's likeness. ... are all over it. ... Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the hell out of the way......

      http://www.bing.com/search?q=The+e+word+wins+all+the+time+creationists+..........no+god(s)+made+US............get+over+IT&pc=HPNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox&first=9&FORM=PERE

      Penn & Teller; The Bible is Bullsh-it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E

      Science wins over creationism in South Korea

      Government asks publishers to retain examples of evolution in science textbooks.

      http://www.nature.com/news/science-wins-over-creationism-in-south-korea-1.11377

      June 10, 2013 at 6:55 am |
  20. Common Sense Sam

    Don't hate the believer, hate the belief.

    June 7, 2013 at 4:37 am |
    • lol??

      Won't work, sammy.

      "Jhn 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."

      June 10, 2013 at 7:52 am |
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