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When Christians become a 'hated minority'
Evangelical Christians say they are the new victims of intolerance - they're persecuted for condemning homosexuality.
May 5th, 2013
06:00 AM ET

When Christians become a 'hated minority'

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - When Peter Sprigg speaks publicly about his opposition to homosexuality, something odd often happens.

During his speeches, people raise their hands to challenge his assertions that the Bible condemns homosexuality, but no Christians speak out to defend him.

“But after it is over, they will come over to talk to me and whisper in my ear, ‘I agree with everything you said,’" says Sprigg, a spokesman for The Family Research Council, a powerful, conservative Christian lobbying group.

We’ve heard of the “down-low” gay person who keeps his or her sexual identity secret for fear of public scorn. But Sprigg and other evangelicals say changing attitudes toward homosexuality have created a new victim: closeted Christians who believe the Bible condemns homosexuality but will not say so publicly for fear of being labeled a hateful bigot.

As proof, Sprigg points to the backlash that ESPN commentator Chris Broussard sparked recently. Broussard was called a bigot and a purveyor of hate speech when he said an NBA player who had come out as gay was living in “open rebellion to God.” Broussard said the player, Jason Collins, was “living in unrepentant sin” because the Bible condemns homosexuality.

“In the current culture, it takes more courage for someone like Chris Broussard to speak out than for someone like Jason Collins to come out,” says Sprigg, a former pastor. “The media will hail someone who comes out of the closet as gay, but someone who simply expresses their personal religious views about homosexual conduct is attacked.”

When is disagreement hate?

Bryan Litfin, a theology professor at Moody Bible Institute in Illinois, says Christians should be able to publicly say that God designed sex to take place within a marriage between a man and a woman.

“That isn’t so outrageous,” Litfin says. “Nobody is expressing hate toward homosexuals by saying that. Since when is disagreement the same as hate?”

But quoting the Bible doesn't inoculate anyone from becoming a bigot or hater, some scholars say. There's a point at which a Christian's opposition to homosexuality can become bigotry, and even hate speech, they say.

Crossing such a line has happened many times in history.

A literal reading of the Bible was used to justify all sorts of hatred: slavery, the subjugation of women and anti-Semitism, scholars and pastors say.

“Truly damaging speech cannot be excused just because it expresses genuine religious belief,” says Mark D. Jordan, author of “Recruiting Young Love: How Christians Talk about Homosexuality.”

“Some religious beliefs, sincerely held, are detestable. They cannot be spoken without disrupting social peace,” says Jordan, a professor at the John Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis.

The point where religious speech becomes hate speech is difficult to define, though, scholars and activists say.

The Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama is a nonprofit civil rights group that combats and monitors hate groups. Three years ago, it designated the Family Research Council, the group that Sprigg represents, as a hate group - a characterization the group stridently rejects.

Mark Potok,  a center spokesman, says there’s no shared definition of what constitutes hate speech.

“There is no legal meaning. It’s just a phrase,” Potok says. “Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder.”

'One of the most hated minorities?'

Intolerance may be difficult to define, but some evangelicals say they have become victims of intolerance because of their reverence for the Bible.

The conservative media culture is filled with stories about evangelicals being labeled as “extremists” for their belief that homosexuality is a sin.

Their sense of persecution goes beyond their stance on homosexuality. There are stories circulating of evangelical students being suspended for opposing homosexuality, a teacher fired for giving a Bible to a curious student, and the rise of anti-Christian bigotry.

A blogger at The American Dream asked in one essay:

“Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?”

The reluctance of evangelicals to speak out against homosexuality is often cited as proof they are being forced into the closet.

Joe Carter, editor for The Gospel Coalition, an online evangelical magazine, wrote a blog post entitled “Debatable: Is the Christian Church a ‘Hate Group’?" He warned that young people will abandon “orthodox” Christian churches that teach that homosexuality is a sin for fear of being called haters.

“Faux civility, embarrassment, prudishness and a fear of expressing an unpopular opinion has caused many Christians to refrain from explaining how homosexual conduct destroys lives,” Carter wrote.

Some Christians fear that opposing homosexuality could cause them to lose their jobs and “haunt them forever,” Carter says.

“It’s easier to just go along,” says Carter, who is also author of “How to Argue Like Jesus.” “You don’t want to be lumped in with the bigots. That’s a powerful word."

Edward Johnson, a communication professor at Campbell University in North Carolina, says we are now living in a "postmodern" era where everything is relative and there is no universally accepted truth. It's an environment in which anyone who says "this is right" and "that is wrong" is labeled intolerant, he says.

There was a time when a person could publicly say homosexuality was wrong and people could consider the statement without anger, he says. Today, people have reverted to an intellectual tribalism where they are only willing to consider the perspective of their own tribe.

“They are incapable of comprehending that someone may have a view different than theirs,” Johnson says. “For them anyone who dares to question the dogma of the tribe can only be doing so out of hatred.”

Sprigg, from the Family Research Council, says his condemnation of homosexual conduct does not spring from intolerance but a desire to protect gays from harmful conduct, he says.

Sprigg, a senior fellow for policy studies at the council, wrote in a council pamphlet that homosexual men are more likely to engage in child sexual abuse than are straight men. He also wrote that gay men are also afflicted with a higher rate of sexually transmitted diseases and mental illness as well.

Sprigg says he does not believe homosexuality is a choice and that “personal testimonies" and "clinical experience” show that some people “can and do change from gay to straight.”

“Maybe we need to do a better job of showing that we are motivated by Christian love,” Sprigg says. “Love is wanting the best for someone, and acting to bring that about.”

'That's a lie'

Potok, from the Southern Poverty Law Center, has little use for the love Sprigg talks about.

He calls it hatred, and his voice rose in anger when he talked about the claims by Sprigg and other Christian groups that gay men are more predisposed to molest children and that homosexual behavior is inherently harmful.

He says the Southern Poverty Law Center didn’t designate the Family Research Group a hate group because they view homosexuality as a sin or oppose same-sex marriage, Potok says. There are plenty of Christian groups who hold those beliefs but are not hate groups, he says.

A group becomes a hate group when it attacks and maligns an entire class of people for their “immutable characteristics,” Potok says. The Family Research Council spreads known falsehoods about gays and lesbians, he says, such as the contention that gay men are predisposed to abuse children.

“That’s a lie,” Potok says. “These guys are engaging in straight-up defamation of a very large group of people. There are not many things much worse than you can say in America about somebody than they are a child molester.”

Potok scoffed at Spriggs’ claim that the council and other evangelical anti-gay groups are victims of intolerance.

“That’s whining on the part of people who spend their days and nights attacking gay people and then some people criticize them and they don’t like it,” he says. “That’s pathetic. It reminds me of slave owners complaining that people are saying ugly things about them.”

What the Bible says

What about the popular evangelical claim, “We don’t hate the sinner, just the sin” – is that seen as intolerance or hate speech when it comes to homosexuality?

There are those who say you can’t hate the sin and love the sinner because being gay or lesbian is defined by one’s sexual behavior; it’s who someone is.

“Most people who identify as gay and lesbian would say that this is not an action I’m choosing to do; this is who I am,” says Timothy Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible: The Unexpected History of an Accidental Book.”

Beal, a religion professor at Case Western University in Ohio, says it should be difficult for any Christian to unequivocally declare that the Bible opposes homosexuality because the Bible doesn’t take a single position on the topic. It's an assertion that many scholars and mainline Protestant pastors would agree with.

Some people cite Old Testament scriptures as condemning homosexuality, such as  Leviticus 18:22 - “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” But other Christians counter by saying they are not bound by the Old Testament.

There are those who also cite New Testament scriptures like Romans 1:26-27 - “… Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men. …”

Beal, however, says Jesus said little about sex. And the Apostle Paul, who wrote Romans, was probably referring to male prostitution and men having sexual relations with boys, a practice in the Greco-Roman world.

“Paul does not understand genetics and sexual orientation the way we understand it now as something much more than a choice,” says Beal.

Some evangelicals say Christians can’t change their view of biblical truth just because times change. But some scholars reply:

Sure you can. Christians do it all the time.

Denying a woman’s ability to preach in church was justified by scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:11-12 - “… I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” But many churches have abandoned that teaching - and some scholars say a woman preached the first Christian sermon, when Mary Magdalene proclaimed that Jesus had risen.

Slaveholders in 19th century America justified slavery through a literal reading of the Bible, quoting Titus 2:9-10 – “Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything. …” And anti-Semitism was justified by the claims that Jews killed Jesus, such as Matthew 27: 25-26 - “Let his blood be on us and on our children.”

Litfin, from Moody Bible Institute, acknowledged that the Bible once sanctioned slavery, but he said that practice was a “cultural expression” that changed over time. Evangelicals who oppose same-sex marriage by citing the Bible are on more solid ground, he says.

“Marriage is a universal and timeless institution that God set up for maximum human flourishing. He set it up in the first book of the Bible with the story of Adam and Eve. It is consistent throughout the whole Bible. … Marriage is in a different category than those cultural things.”

Public jousts over the Bible's stance on homosexuality rarely change people’s minds. What changes is when people get to know gay and lesbian people as friends and hear their story, says Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible.”

“If you open up to that other person genuinely, you basically come to a point where you have to sacrifice them to your ideology or crack open your ideology to make a hospitable place for them,” Beal says.

One Christian pastor who is gay says the uproar over the ESPN commentator’s comments can actually be good,  because debates help settle moral disputes.

“What appears to us as antiquated and prejudicial now was once a disputed issue that required debate,” says the Rev. Richard McCarty, a minister in the United Church of Christ and a religious studies professor at Mercyhurst University in Pennsylvania.

Until the debate over homosexuality is settled - if it ever is - there may be plenty of evangelical Christians who feel as if they are now being forced to stay in the closet.

Carter, the evangelical blogger, says he foresees a day when any church that preaches against homosexuality will be marginalized. Just as many churches now accept divorce, they will accept sexual practices once considered sinful.

“It’s getting to the point,” he says, “where churches are not going to say that any sexual activity is wrong.”

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Belief • Bible • Christianity • Church • Church and state • Culture wars • Protest • Sex • Sexuality • Sports

soundoff (10,982 Responses)
  1. MC

    The comments here simply reflect the truth of the message in the blog: it is now acceptable, even commendable to attack Christians for their beliefs.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • Patrick

      Yet if you attack others for their beliefs all of a sudden it's your free speech rights being squashed. You can't have it both ways. Stop playing the victim.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:15 am |
      • CONSTANTIN CHICIOROAGA +4915776228482

        CONSTANTIN CHICIOROAGA +4915776228482
        Constantin Chicioroaga 1971/08/15 – traianch2005@mail.ru
        I love every day and night on several occasions his partner Stephen, we get along very well, and even think to register our relationship and adopt a few children in Germany! We live in a free country, and we want to build their lives freely in a modern way, so we do not care about all of you and what you think of us – WE ARE GAY AND PROUD OF IT!

        January 12, 2014 at 4:31 am |
    • Timothy

      This is human nature. One has to love the educational process of tolerance, acceptance, respect, etc as this is the reality. We simply trade in one set of intolerance, disrespect and rejection toward a different group and pat ourselves on the back as having conquered the ills of our parents and continue on in the same behaviors.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:19 am |
    • Sam

      No they don't. They reflect the fact that a hateful group of people can't hijack the christian religion. People are tired of it. I was raised christian, and i don't feel under attack.

      Let's be real, when you say "christians are under attack" what you really mean is "it's harder to shove our religion down their throats"

      get off your cross, we need the wood...

      May 5, 2013 at 9:20 am |
    • David

      when those beliefs are wrong, then yes they should be attacked! when they are forced on other people, yes they should be attacked.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:24 am |
    • Billy

      I wish I could like Sam's post. Clowns like Broussard are just ruining it for loving Christians.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:24 am |
    • DeadBob

      Believe what you want. Worships as you will. Put your life in the hands of your all-powerful deity. No one really cares.

      It is when you believe YOUR faith trumps everything that there will be problems. MY faith, MY family, MY employment, and MY rights and no subservient to yours. MY life is not dependent upon what your faith believes. MY family does not have to live according in a way that does not offend you.. And until you and your faith get that, there will be problems. There will be condemnation. There will be anger and hatred.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:31 am |
  2. OKE

    They have hated EVERY other religion and group for thousands of years now. Their time to taste the medicine. No sympathy here.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • A dose of Reality

      Well said

      May 5, 2013 at 9:18 am |
  3. Ricardo Williams

    I'm a Christian and I believe Gays and Lesbians are the victims here, not Christians. Who am I to tell you want you can and cannot do? These are adults making decisions based on their preferences. I believe they were born that way and people should be allowed to express who they are once they are not forcing their will wrongfully against another person. We may be different, but we should respect each others differences and live in harmony. Give the Gays and Lesbians their rights, welcome them into our churches, celebrate their lives without discrimination and we'll be a truly functioning Christian body.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • Hmm

      They're already allowed in church, as are all sinners. The real question is, would you prevent them, like divorcees, from holding ministerial positions?

      May 5, 2013 at 9:17 am |
    • Liberalism RequiresTyranny

      Ricardo,
      You conveniently label yourself a Christian. I think you are lying.
      Prove me wrong. Answer this simple question.....
      What is it that makes you a Christian? or....How does one become a Christian?

      May 5, 2013 at 9:20 am |
    • David

      Ricardo, im not a christian, and im not god, but you should be proud of yourself and you are much more Christ like then many Christians seem to be

      May 5, 2013 at 9:27 am |
    • Sharon

      Ricardo: My 78 year old very christian father would totally agree with you. Well said.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:37 am |
    • Ricardo Williams

      To the person who called me a liar and wants me to prove that I'm a Christian, may be you're right I am a liar. I'm a Christian who follows the teachings of Christ and even that is not good enough for fellow Christians, so you're right I am a confused liar, but that won't prevent me from loving my neighbor as I love myself and loving God with all my heart and soul.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:47 am |
  4. Offworld Express

    As a follow-up to my earlier post; Next we should consider whether telling someone eating their boogers that it is a digusting act is hate... If I am stating a fact in doing so or better yet trying to care for their well-being, then it is not hate. If I'm using it as a platform to belittle another, hurt them, or demonize, then that is wrong. Christians are called to love their neighbor – in fact love even their enemies... Is belittling, harming and demonizing love? What's worse is Christians are called to remove the plank from their own eye before trying to remove the speck from another's. By judging, Christians are condemning themselves (Romans 2:1) because Christians know they themselves are the worst of sinners (1 Timothoy 1:15). To believe otherwise is to negate Christ's purpose of dying for our sins (Romans 3:23). And THAT is why Christians are called to love sinners of all kinds – because they themselves were loved without condition of their own sinlessness. Shame to Christians who use Biblical truth to harm or for personal gain or to feel superior in their own sinfulness. They are misled.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • fkwhitaker

      And shame to believers who do not love truth!

      May 5, 2013 at 9:18 am |
  5. Justbobinnj

    Evangelical Christians are so extreme in their views that they could easily become a "Christian Taliban."

    May 5, 2013 at 9:12 am |
    • biggles

      U idiot! We already r!

      May 5, 2013 at 9:17 am |
      • Constantin Chicioroaga

        Constantin Chicioroaga traianch2005@mail.ru
        I love every day and night on several occasions his partner Stephen, we get along very well, and even think to register our relationship and adopt a few children in Germany! We live in a free country, and we want to build their lives freely in a modern way, so we do not care about all of you and what you think of us – WE ARE GAY AND PROUD OF IT!

        November 13, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
  6. John Dozier

    Funny how protective of Muslims CNN is. To constantly repeat don't condemn a whole people for the actions of a few. But yet the bigots here are all for chasing every Christian out of America. Hey I'm a liberal progressive. we are the most open minded people alive. as long as you agree with and go along with all of my beliefs.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:12 am |
    • Rob

      Dozier: It's amazing how you can't figure out that this article talks about fundamentalist Christians and not the Muslim religion. Everyone agrees the Muslim faith has it's own problems with pushing its will on others, but this article doesn't deal with that and your posting multiple comments like this doesn't change that.

      Don't you have anything more constructive than snide comments to add? You really come off sounding uneducated.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:21 am |
    • Turd Ferguson

      No one wants to run "Christians" out of the country, they just want these supposed
      "Christians" to stop trying to force everyone else to live by outdated and bigoted
      beliefs. There is no persecution of Christians in America there is only those fighting
      back against Christians that have enjoyed so much power over society for centuries.
      Their claims are like the rich in America claiming class warfare.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:26 am |
    • biggles

      CNN got too big for its britches.

      Boycott every business that advertises with them. Continue to report the hate-speech and terror threats they support. Sambo, the rectum lover, is prolific.

      May 5, 2013 at 1:40 pm |
  7. Mike

    Amazing how so many don't believe anything they read...but when it comes to the good book they unquestionally believe.
    funny.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:12 am |
    • John Dozier

      It is called faith.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • Sane Person

      Actually its the definition of gullible.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:22 am |
    • biggles

      Right on! Once again, god-jating Nazis got it right. Every believer in the bible believed in its accuracy instantly, never questioning nothing. Day to go mike

      May 5, 2013 at 11:19 am |
  8. DJ

    I am sure closeted Nazis feel the same way

    May 5, 2013 at 9:12 am |
    • John Dozier

      Funny the group I see or hear calling for the destruction of Jews is the Muslims. Could you tell me the name of the church Hitler attended.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:14 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      dozier
      though I do not know the specific church, he was raised and attended catholic church, and used his faith to sanction his actions. He believed the christian almighty god willed him to kill jews specifically, but also atheists, and mentally ill individuals, who were put to death along with the jews during the holocaust.

      Hitler made a deal with the catholic church who helped him in his rise to power...see the 1933 Concordat.

      May 5, 2013 at 2:02 pm |
  9. Pat

    A huge part of evangelicalism is to portray oneself as a victim, persecuted for your beliefs. This feeds into the sense of belonging they have a group. What they don't understand is that people don't hate them for being followers of Christ, because if they were truly followers of Jesus and were "Christlike", they would "love one another" as Jesus taught.
    Instead they spew self-righteous venom and use the bible to justify their hate for things they don't understand.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:11 am |
    • biggles

      Ain't it grand? Ain't no lumping people together and judging them without knowing them as individuals. Wait! That is what she's doing, ain't it? Christians limped together? Nah!

      Maybe? Nah. How? Just like pat did. Christians suck cause they ain't christlike! Really?
      What was Christ like?

      May 5, 2013 at 11:17 am |
  10. Liberty Bell

    Supression of Chistianity supresses the Conservative White voice and vote . Voter supression is racist and extreme . More devision to further devide the electorate . The liberal ground work for the 2014 election cycle has begun . So transparent this is .

    May 5, 2013 at 9:11 am |
    • biggles

      Convinced me! U moron, dodo

      May 5, 2013 at 9:20 am |
    • UncleBenny

      Well, I for one am sick of politicians pandering to the "Conservative White voice and vote."

      May 5, 2013 at 9:21 am |
  11. kim

    I believe that Mr. Blake, you should get your facts straight BEFORE you write your articles. How dare you lump all Christians into the same pot as the extreme right wing who are the opposite of what Christ taught. These people hate anything thats different from them. I am a Christian and I fully accept and support any women's right to choose, the right to limit assault weapons, the right to choose who you want to love, the right to not believe in God if that is your choice. Your article lumps all Christians into a pot with people like Boussard, when in fact most Christians believe as I do. Those that you are writing about are just the more vocal minority. Those who truly follow Christ, follow his teaching: Love your neighbor as yourself.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:11 am |
    • biggles

      2 funny. Right arm kimberly

      May 5, 2013 at 9:19 am |
    • G to the T

      While I dont' disagree with much of what you say, it brings us back to the old problem – who are you to get to define what a "true" christian is?

      May 7, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
  12. J. Palmieri

    I think Americans in general are tolerant of different beliefs and it was very wise for the founding fathers to put tolerance in writing in the bill of rights. Freedom of religion or from religion is what most Americans have valued from day one. We don't want religion shoved down our throats. Keep religion to yourself. Those who sow intolerance will reap intolerance.

    The very fact that there are so many religions puts them all into question.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:10 am |
    • biggles

      Amen! Preach it bro, I mean sister dodo!

      May 5, 2013 at 9:21 am |
    • martin

      Having a lot of religions doesn't nullify God. If you are going to Wal-mart, do you take the same route every time you go?

      May 5, 2013 at 9:27 am |
  13. jeff

    Christians??? I am an Episcopalian and I am unfairly lumped with evangelicals!!!
    The two great commandments that contain the whole law of God are:

    Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength;
    Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:09 am |
    • UncleBenny

      So why do so many so-called Christians not get that?

      May 5, 2013 at 9:20 am |
    • biggles

      Gee. I don't knows.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:22 am |
    • phillyroni

      Amen !!

      May 5, 2013 at 9:28 am |
  14. phillyroni

    These priest are right as they have become a hated minority,, and if they took the time to read and understand the Bible instead of seeking power and attention they would know why,,,,,, America,, read Malachi 2 and understand that this was prophesied,,,,

    MAL 2,,,And now, you priests, this warning is for you. 2 If you do not listen, and if you do not resolve to honor my name,” says the Lord Almighty, “I will send a curse on you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not resolved to honor me.

    3 “Because of you I will rebuke your descendants[a]; I will smear on your faces the dung from your festival sacrifices, and you will be carried off with it. 4 And you will know that I have sent you this warning so that my covenant with Levi may continue,” says the Lord Almighty. 5 “My covenant was with him, a covenant of life and peace, and I gave them to him; this called for reverence and he revered me and stood in awe of my name. 6 True instruction was in his mouth and nothing false was found on his lips. He walked with me in peace and uprightness, and turned many from sin.

    7 “For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, because he is the messenger of the Lord Almighty and people seek instruction from his mouth.

    8 But you have turned from the way and by your teaching have caused many to stumble; you have violated the covenant with Levi,” says the Lord Almighty.

    9 “So I have caused you to be despised and humiliated before all the people, because you have not followed my ways but have shown partiality in matters of the law.”

    PROPHESIED !!! Stop whining and clean up your acts,

    May 5, 2013 at 9:09 am |
  15. Rights

    Christians have the "right" to believe whatever they want, including stupid, hateful things not grounded in fact

    and everyone else in this country has the "right" to hate them for it

    what makes people despise fanatical Christians is their surprise that more of the country does not support them, it's only a matter of time until their nonsense beliefs are drowned out by reason

    May 5, 2013 at 9:09 am |
    • Matthew

      When religious rights are "drowned out by reason", you will no longer be living in a Democratic society? No one will have a voice in this country - so it will not matter what anyone believes. We will be living in a Socialistic society.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:19 am |
  16. nuclear mike

    No doubt the concentration of gayness in the Media & HollyWood fars exceeds the norm for the total population here in America...so the gays have to discredit Christians in order to create the the acceptance of thier lifestyle...hence CNN does the clever blogs to spread the message that being Christian is defined as now hate...trying to erase the long held views on the very real problems that gays cause for society & themselves.
    With no "religious fabic" to hold together our society with values that promote civilization over anarchy, America will soon decay into a European style of socialism.
    Whether you believe in God & Church or not, the rules of religion are good for all of us to try to abide by to live as safe & happy lives as possible.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:08 am |
    • Pat

      Great post Mike!!

      May 5, 2013 at 9:10 am |
    • Joseph Bleaux

      Rules of religion are good? Like stoning people for wearing 2 types of cloth or working on Sunday?

      May 5, 2013 at 9:11 am |
      • CONSTANTIN CHICIOROAGA +4915776228482

        CONSTANTIN CHICIOROAGA +4915776228482
        Constantin Chicioroaga 1971/08/15 – traianch2005@mail.ru
        I love every day and night on several occasions his partner Stephen, we get along very well, and even think to register our relationship and adopt a few children in Germany! We live in a free country, and we want to build their lives freely in a modern way, so we do not care about all of you and what you think of us – WE ARE GAY AND PROUD OF IT!

        January 12, 2014 at 4:32 am |
    • martin

      Dunno, when Muslims speak out about their beliefs they are often condemned and most Christians support that condemnation.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:14 am |
    • FredKelly

      Well said. Christians try to "love the sinner but hate the sin", but the radical left (mainstream media) insist that loving the sinner requires one to accept the sin. Tolerance isn't enough; people have to change their hearts and deny their faith. It's insidious.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:28 am |
    • G to the T

      "the very real problems that gays cause for society & themselves" – can you name any? I am honestly not aware of any problems gays actually cause for society or themselves by trying to live their lives like everyone else.

      May 7, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
  17. Joseph Bleaux

    I don't hate Christians. I hate religion. It's nothing but ancient mythology and primitive superst!ion. It pulls people into a fairytale world of imaginary, invisible, supernatural beings. It impedes progress, it keeps people ignorant and stupid and it has caused a lot of misery throughout history.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:08 am |
    • mick

      It's only being tolerant when it's you disagreeing with someone else. It's bigotry when they don't believe in your beliefs.

      That's the problem with many (not all) liberals in this country. Any disagreement with their "openmindedness" is close-minded bigotry even though it's self-evident hypocrisy.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:10 am |
    • John

      Well said. Hate the Christianity, not the Christian.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • Annie

      It is not religion that causes the problems its the extremists and people who want to kill anyway. I will believe whatever I want. I believe you are very wrong. That does not make me a hater, it makes me a debater.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:14 am |
    • mom

      There would have been far more misery in this world without Judaism and Christianity. Apparently you are not aware of the many barbaric practices of most of the pagan religions down through history. You can also continue with your idea that religions are all based on nothing but myth and fantasy. That is actually not true at all. I am not going to sit here and argue with you, but I have to say that for the many people who insist that all religion is nothing but stuff and nonsense- you actually do not know your facts as well as you think you do. There are archeological discoveries every year which show that the Old and New Testaments are startlingly correct about that part of the world. There are hundreds of scholars worldwide who include the Bible as an indispensable asset with their research methods and other ancient records.

      May 5, 2013 at 9:17 am |
    • checi

      I don't 'hate' religion but I agree with you on it's ridiculousness. I was driving when I heard a news report on the radio about a meteor siting and it was said that "it was not known where the meteor came from". I thought, "It came from SPACE, you dummy." And then I imagined what people would think if Aliens actually landed here. Aliens are NOT going to believe in Earth religion. They weren't exactly around when all those sitings and births and wars were going on in the middle east. Ya gotta hope they come here with rational thought and a little empathy, sort like the Buddhists, ya know?

      May 5, 2013 at 9:20 am |
  18. Joe D

    If an adult was to profess they still actively belief in Santa Claus, they would be ridiculed. The same is true for any gods.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:07 am |
  19. RayJacksonMS

    So basically the christian cultists are still complaining that others are doing unto them as they have always done unto others. This isn't news. We already know they love to nail themselves to the cross and play the victim.

    May 5, 2013 at 9:07 am |
    • yes

      best response on this comment board

      May 5, 2013 at 9:12 am |
      • Constantin Chicioroaga

        Constantin Chicioroaga traianch2005@mail.ru
        I love every day and night on several occasions his partner Stephen, we get along very well, and even think to register our relationship and adopt a few children in Germany! We live in a free country, and we want to build their lives freely in a modern way, so we do not care about all of you and what you think of us – WE ARE GAY AND PROUD OF IT!

        November 13, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Chuck

      Dude ~ You nailed that to the cross! You're exactly right!

      May 5, 2013 at 9:14 am |
  20. Steve

    So... Basically, evangelical Christians aren't racists or bigots, Thier God is?
    So I am sure evangelicals will be the first people in line to stand up for the rights of extremist Muslims right? Or....

    May 5, 2013 at 9:06 am |
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