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Evangelical Christians say they are the new victims of intolerance - they're persecuted for condemning homosexuality.
May 5th, 2013
06:00 AM ET

When Christians become a 'hated minority'

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - When Peter Sprigg speaks publicly about his opposition to homosexuality, something odd often happens.

During his speeches, people raise their hands to challenge his assertions that the Bible condemns homosexuality, but no Christians speak out to defend him.

“But after it is over, they will come over to talk to me and whisper in my ear, ‘I agree with everything you said,’" says Sprigg, a spokesman for The Family Research Council, a powerful, conservative Christian lobbying group.

We’ve heard of the “down-low” gay person who keeps his or her sexual identity secret for fear of public scorn. But Sprigg and other evangelicals say changing attitudes toward homosexuality have created a new victim: closeted Christians who believe the Bible condemns homosexuality but will not say so publicly for fear of being labeled a hateful bigot.

As proof, Sprigg points to the backlash that ESPN commentator Chris Broussard sparked recently. Broussard was called a bigot and a purveyor of hate speech when he said an NBA player who had come out as gay was living in “open rebellion to God.” Broussard said the player, Jason Collins, was “living in unrepentant sin” because the Bible condemns homosexuality.

“In the current culture, it takes more courage for someone like Chris Broussard to speak out than for someone like Jason Collins to come out,” says Sprigg, a former pastor. “The media will hail someone who comes out of the closet as gay, but someone who simply expresses their personal religious views about homosexual conduct is attacked.”

When is disagreement hate?

Bryan Litfin, a theology professor at Moody Bible Institute in Illinois, says Christians should be able to publicly say that God designed sex to take place within a marriage between a man and a woman.

“That isn’t so outrageous,” Litfin says. “Nobody is expressing hate toward homosexuals by saying that. Since when is disagreement the same as hate?”

But quoting the Bible doesn't inoculate anyone from becoming a bigot or hater, some scholars say. There's a point at which a Christian's opposition to homosexuality can become bigotry, and even hate speech, they say.

Crossing such a line has happened many times in history.

A literal reading of the Bible was used to justify all sorts of hatred: slavery, the subjugation of women and anti-Semitism, scholars and pastors say.

“Truly damaging speech cannot be excused just because it expresses genuine religious belief,” says Mark D. Jordan, author of “Recruiting Young Love: How Christians Talk about Homosexuality.”

“Some religious beliefs, sincerely held, are detestable. They cannot be spoken without disrupting social peace,” says Jordan, a professor at the John Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis.

The point where religious speech becomes hate speech is difficult to define, though, scholars and activists say.

The Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama is a nonprofit civil rights group that combats and monitors hate groups. Three years ago, it designated the Family Research Council, the group that Sprigg represents, as a hate group - a characterization the group stridently rejects.

Mark Potok,  a center spokesman, says there’s no shared definition of what constitutes hate speech.

“There is no legal meaning. It’s just a phrase,” Potok says. “Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder.”

'One of the most hated minorities?'

Intolerance may be difficult to define, but some evangelicals say they have become victims of intolerance because of their reverence for the Bible.

The conservative media culture is filled with stories about evangelicals being labeled as “extremists” for their belief that homosexuality is a sin.

Their sense of persecution goes beyond their stance on homosexuality. There are stories circulating of evangelical students being suspended for opposing homosexuality, a teacher fired for giving a Bible to a curious student, and the rise of anti-Christian bigotry.

A blogger at The American Dream asked in one essay:

“Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?”

The reluctance of evangelicals to speak out against homosexuality is often cited as proof they are being forced into the closet.

Joe Carter, editor for The Gospel Coalition, an online evangelical magazine, wrote a blog post entitled “Debatable: Is the Christian Church a ‘Hate Group’?" He warned that young people will abandon “orthodox” Christian churches that teach that homosexuality is a sin for fear of being called haters.

“Faux civility, embarrassment, prudishness and a fear of expressing an unpopular opinion has caused many Christians to refrain from explaining how homosexual conduct destroys lives,” Carter wrote.

Some Christians fear that opposing homosexuality could cause them to lose their jobs and “haunt them forever,” Carter says.

“It’s easier to just go along,” says Carter, who is also author of “How to Argue Like Jesus.” “You don’t want to be lumped in with the bigots. That’s a powerful word."

Edward Johnson, a communication professor at Campbell University in North Carolina, says we are now living in a "postmodern" era where everything is relative and there is no universally accepted truth. It's an environment in which anyone who says "this is right" and "that is wrong" is labeled intolerant, he says.

There was a time when a person could publicly say homosexuality was wrong and people could consider the statement without anger, he says. Today, people have reverted to an intellectual tribalism where they are only willing to consider the perspective of their own tribe.

“They are incapable of comprehending that someone may have a view different than theirs,” Johnson says. “For them anyone who dares to question the dogma of the tribe can only be doing so out of hatred.”

Sprigg, from the Family Research Council, says his condemnation of homosexual conduct does not spring from intolerance but a desire to protect gays from harmful conduct, he says.

Sprigg, a senior fellow for policy studies at the council, wrote in a council pamphlet that homosexual men are more likely to engage in child sexual abuse than are straight men. He also wrote that gay men are also afflicted with a higher rate of sexually transmitted diseases and mental illness as well.

Sprigg says he does not believe homosexuality is a choice and that “personal testimonies" and "clinical experience” show that some people “can and do change from gay to straight.”

“Maybe we need to do a better job of showing that we are motivated by Christian love,” Sprigg says. “Love is wanting the best for someone, and acting to bring that about.”

'That's a lie'

Potok, from the Southern Poverty Law Center, has little use for the love Sprigg talks about.

He calls it hatred, and his voice rose in anger when he talked about the claims by Sprigg and other Christian groups that gay men are more predisposed to molest children and that homosexual behavior is inherently harmful.

He says the Southern Poverty Law Center didn’t designate the Family Research Group a hate group because they view homosexuality as a sin or oppose same-sex marriage, Potok says. There are plenty of Christian groups who hold those beliefs but are not hate groups, he says.

A group becomes a hate group when it attacks and maligns an entire class of people for their “immutable characteristics,” Potok says. The Family Research Council spreads known falsehoods about gays and lesbians, he says, such as the contention that gay men are predisposed to abuse children.

“That’s a lie,” Potok says. “These guys are engaging in straight-up defamation of a very large group of people. There are not many things much worse than you can say in America about somebody than they are a child molester.”

Potok scoffed at Spriggs’ claim that the council and other evangelical anti-gay groups are victims of intolerance.

“That’s whining on the part of people who spend their days and nights attacking gay people and then some people criticize them and they don’t like it,” he says. “That’s pathetic. It reminds me of slave owners complaining that people are saying ugly things about them.”

What the Bible says

What about the popular evangelical claim, “We don’t hate the sinner, just the sin” – is that seen as intolerance or hate speech when it comes to homosexuality?

There are those who say you can’t hate the sin and love the sinner because being gay or lesbian is defined by one’s sexual behavior; it’s who someone is.

“Most people who identify as gay and lesbian would say that this is not an action I’m choosing to do; this is who I am,” says Timothy Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible: The Unexpected History of an Accidental Book.”

Beal, a religion professor at Case Western University in Ohio, says it should be difficult for any Christian to unequivocally declare that the Bible opposes homosexuality because the Bible doesn’t take a single position on the topic. It's an assertion that many scholars and mainline Protestant pastors would agree with.

Some people cite Old Testament scriptures as condemning homosexuality, such as  Leviticus 18:22 - “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” But other Christians counter by saying they are not bound by the Old Testament.

There are those who also cite New Testament scriptures like Romans 1:26-27 - “… Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men. …”

Beal, however, says Jesus said little about sex. And the Apostle Paul, who wrote Romans, was probably referring to male prostitution and men having sexual relations with boys, a practice in the Greco-Roman world.

“Paul does not understand genetics and sexual orientation the way we understand it now as something much more than a choice,” says Beal.

Some evangelicals say Christians can’t change their view of biblical truth just because times change. But some scholars reply:

Sure you can. Christians do it all the time.

Denying a woman’s ability to preach in church was justified by scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:11-12 - “… I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” But many churches have abandoned that teaching - and some scholars say a woman preached the first Christian sermon, when Mary Magdalene proclaimed that Jesus had risen.

Slaveholders in 19th century America justified slavery through a literal reading of the Bible, quoting Titus 2:9-10 – “Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything. …” And anti-Semitism was justified by the claims that Jews killed Jesus, such as Matthew 27: 25-26 - “Let his blood be on us and on our children.”

Litfin, from Moody Bible Institute, acknowledged that the Bible once sanctioned slavery, but he said that practice was a “cultural expression” that changed over time. Evangelicals who oppose same-sex marriage by citing the Bible are on more solid ground, he says.

“Marriage is a universal and timeless institution that God set up for maximum human flourishing. He set it up in the first book of the Bible with the story of Adam and Eve. It is consistent throughout the whole Bible. … Marriage is in a different category than those cultural things.”

Public jousts over the Bible's stance on homosexuality rarely change people’s minds. What changes is when people get to know gay and lesbian people as friends and hear their story, says Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible.”

“If you open up to that other person genuinely, you basically come to a point where you have to sacrifice them to your ideology or crack open your ideology to make a hospitable place for them,” Beal says.

One Christian pastor who is gay says the uproar over the ESPN commentator’s comments can actually be good,  because debates help settle moral disputes.

“What appears to us as antiquated and prejudicial now was once a disputed issue that required debate,” says the Rev. Richard McCarty, a minister in the United Church of Christ and a religious studies professor at Mercyhurst University in Pennsylvania.

Until the debate over homosexuality is settled - if it ever is - there may be plenty of evangelical Christians who feel as if they are now being forced to stay in the closet.

Carter, the evangelical blogger, says he foresees a day when any church that preaches against homosexuality will be marginalized. Just as many churches now accept divorce, they will accept sexual practices once considered sinful.

“It’s getting to the point,” he says, “where churches are not going to say that any sexual activity is wrong.”

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Belief • Bible • Christianity • Church • Church and state • Culture wars • Protest • Sex • Sexuality • Sports

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  1. Well then

    At least gays cant breed

    May 5, 2013 at 10:45 am |
    • Gradschooldude

      and kind of shocking that some breeders do!

      May 5, 2013 at 10:46 am |
    • Claudia

      Well then-–Yes, THEY breed. I've got two friends at work who are lesbians and are both pregnant. These two women used a local center where sperm is donated. One of them joke that she used a turkey baster and just......well, you got the point.

      One woman has been with her partner over 10 years and the other lady over 15 years. They have a solid financial situation and both have great jobs. They are more stable that my straight friends!

      There are literally millions of gay parents that take care of foster children as well, because no one wants the foster kids and these folks have love to give. I think that is a win win situation.

      There are surrogacy centers all over the world, where a gay man can pay up to $50,000 and his sperm is used and he gets a baby 9 months later. My ex's neighbor said his gay neighbor paid $40,000 the first time and had a son, then over $50,000 the next time and had twins.

      Sorry to bust your bubble.

      We are all equal, let's just let God judge when the time comes. Personally, I think gay people are much kinder, polite, and take better care of their yards, and are much more likely to smile at you that others. I think that is because they have been left out for so long and are now more accepted.

      I have always accepted people at face value, it is none of my business what I do in my bed with my man, so why is it my business what gay folks do in bed and with whom?

      May 5, 2013 at 11:02 am |
    • In Answer

      That's right, Well then, they're not animals like your kind. But they Can Reproduce and do all the time for your information.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:05 am |
    • Brian

      Too bad we can't stop you

      May 5, 2013 at 11:07 am |
    • Science

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      May 4, 2013 at 6:47 am | Report abuse |

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  2. Willow

    Not all Christians hate gay people. The ones who do not look upon the ones who do the same way most people view the Westboro Baptists.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:45 am |
  3. Paul Toletino

    By God You have the right or the free will to do anything you want to do. Be a Christian. Be Gay. What the word of God means to me since I am a Christian it is my thing. Jesus did call no Christians to expose somebody else wrong doing. But he asked us to spread the good news of salvation so it will set us free. What do you call bombing a bunch of innocents to kill a few bad guys. Holy war! That's what the crazies call it. I call it murder. Why aren't my Christian Brothers outraged about such events. We should each one examine ourselves when taking communion. To the basketball brother May God bless you and give you the love that we christian brothers are lacking towards you. May the Spirit of God illuminates you today and always to the good knews of Jesus.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:44 am |
    • gamalh

      I agree with you completely, I can spread the news of salvation, but it will not affect me if people decide to not believe.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:49 am |
    • WhenCowsAttack

      "Decide not to believe"?

      What a ridiculous statement! One cannot "decide" or "decide not to" believe anything. You simply can't force yourself to believe something that doesn't make any sense. Fake it till you make it doesn't work. Sure, I could pretend, and I tried for many years to believe and be devout- and guess what? Eventually I had to admit to myself that I just did not believe and that I found the whole premise silly.

      Your god would know if I was insincere in my belief, right? So why bother pretending?

      May 5, 2013 at 10:56 am |
    • Science

      Update : Thank you faith

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/11/my-take-gay-christian-is-not-an-oxymoron/#comments

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      May 14, 2013 at 6:36 am | Report abuse | Reply

      Science

      But Sara..................the POLITICIANS...............military and police forces should know the information and understand IT !

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/11/my-take-gay-christian-is-not-an-oxymoron/#comments

      May 14, 2013 at 6:58 am | Report abuse |

      faith

      well, that is wonderful. thanks for sharing.

      so what?

      May 14, 2013 at 7:01 am | Report abuse |

      Science

      Maybe they.............the politicians and you faith can learn the truth ..................and everybody around the planet !

      Mom and Dad............created you ............not the fairy in the sky............with the red horn-y devil.

      Peace

      Chad too.............poke.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:08 am | Report abuse |

      Science

      And faith....................they might know already.

      https://www.f35.com/

      Peace

      May 14, 2013 at 11:24 am |
  4. lancesackless

    Tim Tebow comes out as a Christian and is told to keep it quiet.
    Collins comes out as gay and the media fawns over him.

    That's all that needs to be said.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:44 am |
    • Lamb of Dog

      People like gays better than christians?

      May 5, 2013 at 10:46 am |
    • Gay

      Since the internet became widely available. A teeny tiny minority make so much noise to be such a minute small part of the population.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:49 am |
    • Bonnie

      The lack of understanding presented in this article speaks very clearly to the so-called "Christian" of today that does not take the time to learn the truth directly by actually studying the word of God in the Bible.
      Please read Leviticus chapter 25, verse 4 and then verses 39 to 54. People wilfully sold themselves to repay debts, but if the debt was not repaid by the seventh year, the master must let him go free, and with provisions.
      Secondly, the issue of the female in relation to service to God: Please read Galatians 3:26-29, where God clearly states that once anyone has become fully trained in God's wisdom and has been baptized in clean conscience as a true follower of Jesus Christ, God's only-begotten Son, there is NO DIVISION between male and female in God's eyes, they are equal servants of God.
      Any true follower of Jesus will remain faithful and loyal to Almighty God, regardless of how permissive and wicked our society becomes. The cowards will not prevail. They will fall into the cesspool of disobedience and confusion.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:50 am |
    • LinCA

      @lancesackless

      You said, "Tim Tebow comes out as a Christian and is told to keep it quiet."
      Coming out as a christian in a country where 80% claims to be christian, is less news worthy as claiming blue is you favorite color. Ignorant christians are a dime, a dozen.

      You said, "Collins comes out as gay and the media fawns over him."
      Openly stating you are gay in a country where about half the population will readily take away rights for doing so, takes guts.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:50 am |
    • G to the T

      Bonnie – Interesting you went from the Old Testament straight to Paul... and managed to skip that whole part with Jesus in the middle...

      May 8, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
    • Science

      Big Bang fvcking CIRCLE aye faith .

      Science

      Hey HeroesAre Rare..............deleting more comments aye?

      Oh! by the way –
      Sam stone, Science and the Doc all of whom think they're pretty sharp............ I've said what I have to say and I will NOT respond to ANY of your juvenile attempts to argue. Got it!

      May 23, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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      Science

      HerosAre Rare , faith the peach and chadie too you are so full of IT...............link below if you need help !

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      Peace

      May 24, 2013 at 7:33 am | Report abuse |

      Science

      HerosAre Rare...........urls got you science !

      May 23, 2013 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |

      science

      Test

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      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority/comment-page-111/?replytocom=2366231#respond

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      May 24, 2013 at 8:06 am |
  5. Gay

    CNN has really become worse than ANY tabloid.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:44 am |
    • Dyslexic doG

      this is an "Opinion" Blog, not CNN's News. Get a grip!

      May 5, 2013 at 10:46 am |
    • Science

      Dyslexic doG

      Big Bang fvcking CIRCLE aye

      Science

      Hey HeroesAre Rare..............deleting more comments aye?

      Oh! by the way –
      Sam stone, Science and the Doc all of whom think they're pretty sharp............ I've said what I have to say and I will NOT respond to ANY of your juvenile attempts to argue. Got it!

      May 23, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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      Science

      HerosAre Rare , faith the peach and chadie too you are so full of IT...............link below if you need help !

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      May 24, 2013 at 7:33 am | Report abuse |

      Science

      HerosAre Rare...........urls got you science !

      May 23, 2013 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |

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      Test

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  6. damien

    good.. it's about time people filled with hate because their "god" demands so are taught what that hate feels like on the receiving end.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
    • Joe

      Well said.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:47 am |
    • Gay

      Disgust is NOT the same thing as hate, Silly gay people.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:55 am |
    • G to the T

      And disdain isn't the same as hate either "gay". I can't hate christiantiy, I don't have enough of an emotional investment in it to hate it...

      May 8, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
  7. McQ

    You get what you give in this world. The Christians preach intolerance, so that's what they get. 200 years ago it would not be so. They held all the power and could be as intolerant as they wished and no one could challenge them. Now, with educated masses who no longer fear them (And who know what garbage is actually in the bible because it's not just in Latin any more and we're actually allowed to own copies of it without being killed.) they are reaping what they sow: they preach intolerance so they earn the disdain of all civilized, free thinking, rational humanist people.

    Reap the whirlwind, religion.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
  8. Little Stevie

    to Bonnie....just keep quoting away ! You are basing your ideology on "The Immaculate Deception".

    May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
  9. Well then

    gay=wanting to fornicate with anuses and be respected for it

    May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Straight people have anal $ex too.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:49 am |
    • Gay

      And that's putting it lightly.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • PooDodger

      Anti-gay = obsessing over people who want to fornicate with anuses.
      Your obsession with gay people is just sick and disgusting.
      You are more disgusting than any gay fornication.
      You will never have a good reason to interfere in other people's s3x lives if they are consenting adults.
      Never.
      Strange how you don't seem too offended about child rape. I guess that's okay because priests do it all the time, rite?

      May 5, 2013 at 10:54 am |
  10. halfbakedlunatic

    'god' is an idiotic idea promoted by immoral people to control and pacify the weak minded.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
    • South Dakota

      Aye. Religious myths are lies designed to keep people fearful and obedient to arbitrary authority. These lies invariably bait emotion with promises of reward and failing successful sale, condemn.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:45 am |
    • Gay

      Guys sucking each others fluids and rear end antics is the most disgusting act on Earth.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:53 am |
  11. JAB

    Bigots, as well as their law based on religion, should be kept in a closet. It's about time for this reversal.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
  12. Dan

    ESPN Facebook I openly defended Chris Broussard .I am not afraid to proclaim the truth no matter who hears it .ESPN blocked me from there facebook .... God hates wimpy christians as His word says I would you be hot not lukewarm what does God say He will do spit you out of His mouth.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
    • Lamb of Dog

      So whats he spitting out? He should swallow.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:44 am |
  13. Dyslexic doG

    Let's talk about Horus from 3000 BC (Jesus is a copy of Horus), or Attis from 1500 BC (Jesus is a copy of Attis), or Mithra from 1200BC (Jesus is a copy of Mithra), or Krishna from 900BC (Jesus is a copy of Krishna), or Dionysus from 500 BC (Jesus is a copy of Dionysus) .... or any of the DOZENS of other gods predating the bronze age book character Jesus who were born of a virgin on Dec 25, traveled as a teacher, had 12 disciples, performed miracles, was killed and lay dead for 3 days and was resurrected.

    You Christians are not even original! What a joke!

    May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
    • McQ

      I have actually had discussions with people I know who believe that every word of the bible is LITERALLY true, and they explain this away by saying these are all false religions planted in history by satan to lead people away from the one true truth of Jeebus. You see how this goes? There's a "god did it" answer for everything in their minds.

      All we can do is laugh at them and continue to expose their ridiculous myths (and the myths that predate Jesus upon which Jesus was based) to a new generation of young minds and flush this garbage down the bowl forever. It's time for the values of The Enlightenment to surge forth once more.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:50 am |
    • Dan

      Dyslexic doG is a pure example of to much internet time .Being lazy and failing to examine truth but blindly believing this stupidity. How about examing the bible for yourself .How about reading example ISaiah 53 by the way before the dead sea scrolls were found people much like you mocked .They said oh! while it clear Isaiah speaks of Jesus Isaiah must be written after Jesus .Dead sea scrolls proved Isaiah older then Jesus time .The mocker all shut up.You might also examine those you claim Jesus is copied from.The stories are no far off .By the way Roman Historian record Jesus .Examine more here .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqQCXCfU2Gk

      May 5, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • Joe

      (Any) Religion – the biggest lie ever told.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:53 am |
    • Kelly

      @mcq. Yeah Voltaire said the same thing a century ago, we're still here....and so are you

      May 5, 2013 at 10:58 am |
  14. Gay

    After reading these boards you can tell the deviants are not only bent in the mind but hateful of those who tell them like it is. Pull the co#k out of your ears.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:42 am |
    • G to the T

      Why does someone like you posting under "gay" strike me as "false witness"... hmmmm....

      May 8, 2013 at 2:07 pm |
  15. allenwoll

    .
    When listening to the pitch of a Churchman of ANY faith, the prudent person adjusts his brain to the same settings he uses for politicians and automobile salespersons.
    .

    May 5, 2013 at 10:42 am |
    • Dyslexic doG

      amen!

      May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
  16. steve

    Should we also be sensitive about the poor people who opposed civil rights?

    May 5, 2013 at 10:42 am |
  17. anonzero0

    George W. Bush turned evangelicals into a hated minority along with republican policies..
    Although I'm not naïve enough to say that democrats have no hand in the same agenda giving to the rich and taking from the middle class and poor.. this group is primarily responsible for the country living in fear from 2001 – 2008 and putting in place policies that decimated the economy while giving oil companies RECORD profits for a DECADE+++
    All the gerrymandering in the world won't protect whites in the south from losing political power slowly, but surely.. it will come to an end as Hispanics outnumber whites 3:1 then 4:1 then 5:1 and so on

    May 5, 2013 at 10:41 am |
  18. andrewatstealinglightdotcom

    Sorry, but the Evangels are hateful, horrid people, and THAT"s why we don;'t like em....In fact and ironically, they are against freedom of religion for everyone but them,,,That segregated prom in south GA–anyone want to take bets on where the organizers of that little disgrace were this morning? That's right, in CHURCH. Religion needs to go. Period. From segregated proms to flying planes into buildings, we need to toss it on the trashheap of history with all the other things that no longer serve us.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:41 am |
  19. Masse

    Even talking about religion is diversion away from the real source of our problems.
    Some people are crazy, and they will incite conflict or otherwise manipulate others using whatever means works- religion, ancestry, skin color, nationality, politics, etc.
    But don't watch people who ask for positions of power and control, watch those _____s- they are the real problem!

    May 5, 2013 at 10:41 am |
    • Gay

      The real problem is telling those with mental issues that their is nothing wrong with them.

      May 5, 2013 at 10:43 am |
  20. skytag

    Before we impose religious beliefs on everyone in the form of laws we need some evidence it isn't all just a fairytale. Otherwise I'm going to suggest we have legislation requiring every home have a chimney so Santa will start delivering presents again.

    May 5, 2013 at 10:41 am |
    • Gay

      Seems gays would have NO problem with fairy tails, After ready these boards the deviants true ugliness really shows

      May 5, 2013 at 10:51 am |
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