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Evangelical Christians say they are the new victims of intolerance - they're persecuted for condemning homosexuality.
May 5th, 2013
06:00 AM ET

When Christians become a 'hated minority'

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - When Peter Sprigg speaks publicly about his opposition to homosexuality, something odd often happens.

During his speeches, people raise their hands to challenge his assertions that the Bible condemns homosexuality, but no Christians speak out to defend him.

“But after it is over, they will come over to talk to me and whisper in my ear, ‘I agree with everything you said,’" says Sprigg, a spokesman for The Family Research Council, a powerful, conservative Christian lobbying group.

We’ve heard of the “down-low” gay person who keeps his or her sexual identity secret for fear of public scorn. But Sprigg and other evangelicals say changing attitudes toward homosexuality have created a new victim: closeted Christians who believe the Bible condemns homosexuality but will not say so publicly for fear of being labeled a hateful bigot.

As proof, Sprigg points to the backlash that ESPN commentator Chris Broussard sparked recently. Broussard was called a bigot and a purveyor of hate speech when he said an NBA player who had come out as gay was living in “open rebellion to God.” Broussard said the player, Jason Collins, was “living in unrepentant sin” because the Bible condemns homosexuality.

“In the current culture, it takes more courage for someone like Chris Broussard to speak out than for someone like Jason Collins to come out,” says Sprigg, a former pastor. “The media will hail someone who comes out of the closet as gay, but someone who simply expresses their personal religious views about homosexual conduct is attacked.”

When is disagreement hate?

Bryan Litfin, a theology professor at Moody Bible Institute in Illinois, says Christians should be able to publicly say that God designed sex to take place within a marriage between a man and a woman.

“That isn’t so outrageous,” Litfin says. “Nobody is expressing hate toward homosexuals by saying that. Since when is disagreement the same as hate?”

But quoting the Bible doesn't inoculate anyone from becoming a bigot or hater, some scholars say. There's a point at which a Christian's opposition to homosexuality can become bigotry, and even hate speech, they say.

Crossing such a line has happened many times in history.

A literal reading of the Bible was used to justify all sorts of hatred: slavery, the subjugation of women and anti-Semitism, scholars and pastors say.

“Truly damaging speech cannot be excused just because it expresses genuine religious belief,” says Mark D. Jordan, author of “Recruiting Young Love: How Christians Talk about Homosexuality.”

“Some religious beliefs, sincerely held, are detestable. They cannot be spoken without disrupting social peace,” says Jordan, a professor at the John Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis.

The point where religious speech becomes hate speech is difficult to define, though, scholars and activists say.

The Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama is a nonprofit civil rights group that combats and monitors hate groups. Three years ago, it designated the Family Research Council, the group that Sprigg represents, as a hate group - a characterization the group stridently rejects.

Mark Potok,  a center spokesman, says there’s no shared definition of what constitutes hate speech.

“There is no legal meaning. It’s just a phrase,” Potok says. “Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder.”

'One of the most hated minorities?'

Intolerance may be difficult to define, but some evangelicals say they have become victims of intolerance because of their reverence for the Bible.

The conservative media culture is filled with stories about evangelicals being labeled as “extremists” for their belief that homosexuality is a sin.

Their sense of persecution goes beyond their stance on homosexuality. There are stories circulating of evangelical students being suspended for opposing homosexuality, a teacher fired for giving a Bible to a curious student, and the rise of anti-Christian bigotry.

A blogger at The American Dream asked in one essay:

“Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?”

The reluctance of evangelicals to speak out against homosexuality is often cited as proof they are being forced into the closet.

Joe Carter, editor for The Gospel Coalition, an online evangelical magazine, wrote a blog post entitled “Debatable: Is the Christian Church a ‘Hate Group’?" He warned that young people will abandon “orthodox” Christian churches that teach that homosexuality is a sin for fear of being called haters.

“Faux civility, embarrassment, prudishness and a fear of expressing an unpopular opinion has caused many Christians to refrain from explaining how homosexual conduct destroys lives,” Carter wrote.

Some Christians fear that opposing homosexuality could cause them to lose their jobs and “haunt them forever,” Carter says.

“It’s easier to just go along,” says Carter, who is also author of “How to Argue Like Jesus.” “You don’t want to be lumped in with the bigots. That’s a powerful word."

Edward Johnson, a communication professor at Campbell University in North Carolina, says we are now living in a "postmodern" era where everything is relative and there is no universally accepted truth. It's an environment in which anyone who says "this is right" and "that is wrong" is labeled intolerant, he says.

There was a time when a person could publicly say homosexuality was wrong and people could consider the statement without anger, he says. Today, people have reverted to an intellectual tribalism where they are only willing to consider the perspective of their own tribe.

“They are incapable of comprehending that someone may have a view different than theirs,” Johnson says. “For them anyone who dares to question the dogma of the tribe can only be doing so out of hatred.”

Sprigg, from the Family Research Council, says his condemnation of homosexual conduct does not spring from intolerance but a desire to protect gays from harmful conduct, he says.

Sprigg, a senior fellow for policy studies at the council, wrote in a council pamphlet that homosexual men are more likely to engage in child sexual abuse than are straight men. He also wrote that gay men are also afflicted with a higher rate of sexually transmitted diseases and mental illness as well.

Sprigg says he does not believe homosexuality is a choice and that “personal testimonies" and "clinical experience” show that some people “can and do change from gay to straight.”

“Maybe we need to do a better job of showing that we are motivated by Christian love,” Sprigg says. “Love is wanting the best for someone, and acting to bring that about.”

'That's a lie'

Potok, from the Southern Poverty Law Center, has little use for the love Sprigg talks about.

He calls it hatred, and his voice rose in anger when he talked about the claims by Sprigg and other Christian groups that gay men are more predisposed to molest children and that homosexual behavior is inherently harmful.

He says the Southern Poverty Law Center didn’t designate the Family Research Group a hate group because they view homosexuality as a sin or oppose same-sex marriage, Potok says. There are plenty of Christian groups who hold those beliefs but are not hate groups, he says.

A group becomes a hate group when it attacks and maligns an entire class of people for their “immutable characteristics,” Potok says. The Family Research Council spreads known falsehoods about gays and lesbians, he says, such as the contention that gay men are predisposed to abuse children.

“That’s a lie,” Potok says. “These guys are engaging in straight-up defamation of a very large group of people. There are not many things much worse than you can say in America about somebody than they are a child molester.”

Potok scoffed at Spriggs’ claim that the council and other evangelical anti-gay groups are victims of intolerance.

“That’s whining on the part of people who spend their days and nights attacking gay people and then some people criticize them and they don’t like it,” he says. “That’s pathetic. It reminds me of slave owners complaining that people are saying ugly things about them.”

What the Bible says

What about the popular evangelical claim, “We don’t hate the sinner, just the sin” – is that seen as intolerance or hate speech when it comes to homosexuality?

There are those who say you can’t hate the sin and love the sinner because being gay or lesbian is defined by one’s sexual behavior; it’s who someone is.

“Most people who identify as gay and lesbian would say that this is not an action I’m choosing to do; this is who I am,” says Timothy Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible: The Unexpected History of an Accidental Book.”

Beal, a religion professor at Case Western University in Ohio, says it should be difficult for any Christian to unequivocally declare that the Bible opposes homosexuality because the Bible doesn’t take a single position on the topic. It's an assertion that many scholars and mainline Protestant pastors would agree with.

Some people cite Old Testament scriptures as condemning homosexuality, such as  Leviticus 18:22 - “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” But other Christians counter by saying they are not bound by the Old Testament.

There are those who also cite New Testament scriptures like Romans 1:26-27 - “… Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men. …”

Beal, however, says Jesus said little about sex. And the Apostle Paul, who wrote Romans, was probably referring to male prostitution and men having sexual relations with boys, a practice in the Greco-Roman world.

“Paul does not understand genetics and sexual orientation the way we understand it now as something much more than a choice,” says Beal.

Some evangelicals say Christians can’t change their view of biblical truth just because times change. But some scholars reply:

Sure you can. Christians do it all the time.

Denying a woman’s ability to preach in church was justified by scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:11-12 - “… I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” But many churches have abandoned that teaching - and some scholars say a woman preached the first Christian sermon, when Mary Magdalene proclaimed that Jesus had risen.

Slaveholders in 19th century America justified slavery through a literal reading of the Bible, quoting Titus 2:9-10 – “Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything. …” And anti-Semitism was justified by the claims that Jews killed Jesus, such as Matthew 27: 25-26 - “Let his blood be on us and on our children.”

Litfin, from Moody Bible Institute, acknowledged that the Bible once sanctioned slavery, but he said that practice was a “cultural expression” that changed over time. Evangelicals who oppose same-sex marriage by citing the Bible are on more solid ground, he says.

“Marriage is a universal and timeless institution that God set up for maximum human flourishing. He set it up in the first book of the Bible with the story of Adam and Eve. It is consistent throughout the whole Bible. … Marriage is in a different category than those cultural things.”

Public jousts over the Bible's stance on homosexuality rarely change people’s minds. What changes is when people get to know gay and lesbian people as friends and hear their story, says Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible.”

“If you open up to that other person genuinely, you basically come to a point where you have to sacrifice them to your ideology or crack open your ideology to make a hospitable place for them,” Beal says.

One Christian pastor who is gay says the uproar over the ESPN commentator’s comments can actually be good,  because debates help settle moral disputes.

“What appears to us as antiquated and prejudicial now was once a disputed issue that required debate,” says the Rev. Richard McCarty, a minister in the United Church of Christ and a religious studies professor at Mercyhurst University in Pennsylvania.

Until the debate over homosexuality is settled - if it ever is - there may be plenty of evangelical Christians who feel as if they are now being forced to stay in the closet.

Carter, the evangelical blogger, says he foresees a day when any church that preaches against homosexuality will be marginalized. Just as many churches now accept divorce, they will accept sexual practices once considered sinful.

“It’s getting to the point,” he says, “where churches are not going to say that any sexual activity is wrong.”

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Belief • Bible • Christianity • Church • Church and state • Culture wars • Protest • Sex • Sexuality • Sports

soundoff (10,982 Responses)
  1. Mr.Butters

    The problem is that people make it such a topic of debate. Some countries have had legalized gay marriage for years and no fire and brimstone or people marrying their cat.

    What I've never understand is why people spend so much time on literally one line from the bible. But don't try to bring up poverty or human suffering even in their own backyard.

    What would Jesus do, rally against gay people or go and try to ease those suffering? Exactly.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:41 am |
  2. The end

    The bible that belongs to atheists (the origin of species) is a screwed up book

    May 5, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Angel Moronic

      You are proof that The Origin of Species is more accurate then the Bible.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:43 am |
    • Lamb of Dog

      Atheists don't have a bible.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:44 am |
    • Answer

      Christard.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:47 am |
    • NTG

      lolxtians

      May 5, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Much like Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica by Newton. They've been improved on by centuries of work and changed man's understanding of the world. I can see how a dogmatic person would find that screwed up.

      May 5, 2013 at 5:52 pm |
  3. Tanker

    Christians came to America to flee prosecution.

    Maybe its time they moved on again...

    May 5, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Jesus the Christ

      Why does everyone say that Christians were fleeing persecution when they came to America? What country were they coming from that wasn't Christian???? I mean, semantics aside, perhaps we ought to think about that before we keep throwing it around.
      On the other had, yes, they ought to leave America if they don't like freedom, I've hear there's lots of religious control over in the Middle East...the could go there and be happy...

      May 5, 2013 at 11:43 am |
    • Really

      Oh, the idiocy. Christians were fleeing the persecution of tyrannical "Christian" monarchs who wanted them dead. First, you aren't Christian. Second, you aren't a monarch. Third, do you want to kill Christians?

      May 5, 2013 at 11:44 am |
    • Tanker

      As a non-Christian I'd have to point out that Christians favorite targets are other Christians.

      In the old world it was Cathoic vs. Protestants, and more recently, Protestant Sect vs. Protestant Sect.

      I hate to say this, but Christians don't seem to get well with others.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:46 am |
    • MJKT

      So not being able to impose your personal religious views onto others by law (thus limiting their freedoms) is persecution?

      May 5, 2013 at 11:47 am |
    • Tanker

      I mean Christians no ill-will (more or less).

      They just seem to unhappy in a egalitarian democracy.

      Their solution is that we change the deomcracy to a theocracy, my solution is they leave.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:48 am |
    • alf

      Why would we do that? If you are not a Christian that what are you? Its okay dont be afraid, Agnostic, Atheist. I believe that everyone should be proud of what they stand for. Apparently you dont like Christians. You obvious like the American that we built. And now you say that we should leave. So you want a Chiristian free America? I think that is what you are saying.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:51 am |
    • Really

      Tanker, it's called being human. I don't see you being particularly nice and accepting in implying that Christians should leave the country. In fact, I've seen much worse infighting within atheist organizations. At least Christians have moral teachings to try to counterbalance and tame disputes, unlike atheists who have absolutely no cohesive views on morality.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Really
      I am an atheist and have my own set of morality, as does everyone....mine just isn't based in an immoral religion like christianity.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:45 pm |
  4. Spike

    Well, if they wouldn't be running around condeming gay people, they woudln't have that problem of being fired from a job, would they.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Answer

      They're so obsessed with other peoples s-e-x-u-a-l activities.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:44 am |
    • Really

      Are Christians bringing up the whole g.a.y. thing, or is all of the media throwing in the faces on a daily basis and expecting them not to respond?! It's g.a.y. activists that are pushing their view of morality on everyone, not Christians. Christians are the ones the media is trying to shame into the closet. This country is in complete and utter moral decline.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:49 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      really
      So people fighting for their equal civil rights is now showing moral decay?

      Christianity is immoral from the outset...we do not allow someone who did not commit a crime to be punished as if they did it because they want to take that persons just punishment...but christianity is based on that very immorality.

      Take a good look at christianity before you try to play the moral high ground.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:43 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @Really, I'm guessing you thought the media was trying to shame the KKK during the civil rights era, too. If you don't have the guts to stand behind your efforts to promote discrimination, maybe you need to rethink your belief system.

      May 9, 2013 at 11:40 am |
  5. A Very Wise Saying

    "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Ghandi

    May 5, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • DJ

      For all true christians.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwXHnbt9prc

      May 5, 2013 at 11:50 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      "true christians'...funny how everyone has a different definition of what that is.

      May 9, 2013 at 11:35 am |
  6. Andrew Werling

    Well, they ARE hateful bigots, and if they are ashamed of it enough to stay secretive about it, good! anti-gay bigots have made life hell for LGBT folks for long enough, and it's time they were called out for their heinous behavior. Feel the shame, and change your ways. Embrace love in your hearts and move past the bigotry. I have no sympathy for your self-invented status as "closeted." You did that to yourselves.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Really

      Christians don't hate you any more than they hate someone who sleeps with others outside marriage, gets a divorce, drinks to excess, or smokes and harms their body. That doesn't change the fact that these are sins, and if asked, you're going to be told.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • Saraswati

      @Really, Tell away, but try to break up my marriage and I'll push back with everything I've got. And yes, that includes showing up your bigoted beliefs for the ignorance they are.

      May 9, 2013 at 11:42 am |
  7. Reality

    Hmmm, another Sunday morning CNN headline and the Belief blog lights up like a holiday tree. To put things into 21st century perspective:

    The Apostles' Creed 2013 (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    May 5, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • greg

      Amen.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:44 am |
    • Really

      Do you ever update your constant drivel? Its pointlessness is getting very old. You know that no one except your fellow atheists cares about your ongoing monotonous rant, right?

      May 5, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • mountainmanpat

      Where's L. Ron when ya need him?

      May 5, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
    • Reality

      Creeds are written and reiterated as that is their purpose.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:23 pm |
    • befree

      Spot on... Its really about equality, we all equally evolved from the same primordial pond. Humans have formulated stories forever, looking for answers, but no humans story makes them above any other. This inlays the problem with religions in general. Jesus teachings that christianity is based on are not practiced by many of its followers. They have chosen to follow other evolutionary survival traits such as greed, fear of change even brain washing and call it their religious beliefs. If we all lived like Jesus the world would be a better place. Its all about admitting that regardless of who we are or what we believe we are all equal, not perfect or blessed just mere humans.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:37 pm |
  8. achrontimeless

    Ok, they have a book which they can choose to read one of several ways which can pass judgement for all manner of things. That's fine if they wish to subject themselves to that, but it's just a book. There is no more authority in the christian bible than there is in Lord of the Rings.

    They'll say it's the commandments of their god, which they have yet to provide evidence of such a thing existing. If there's no god, then the opinions and commands of the character of god in that book are moot.

    Oh sure, some will say the book proves their god, but if that's the case, LotR proves Gandalf, and it even has a resurrection in it too.

    So, prove your god before you try to force me to do anything out of your book, as you appear to not have the authority you claim.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:39 am |
  9. The end

    I am a soulless, useless, ugly, fat bigot.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:39 am |
    • Answer

      Then go and kill yourself.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • Death to Religion!!!

      Rush Limbaugh, how nice to see you...not! I will celebrate any news of your demise, guaranteed.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:42 am |
    • rayinla

      Congratulations. Admitting you are a fat, dumb, redneck is a huge step toward your recovery.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:52 am |
  10. Crewman

    So when a person says that someone is living in "open rebellion" to their body by excessively eating unhealthy foods, not exercising and drinking too much (for example), does that make that person a bigot or judgmental? Expressing concern that someone is living in open rebellion to God is merely pointing out that to a Christian, that person is living in a truly unhealthy and damaging way. If one genuinely and sincerely believed that, why would it be considered hate to express it publicly? Also, if everyone on this thread is so convinced that faithful Christians are wrong about this issue (laughably wrong nonetheless) why does it bother them so much when Christians express their view? If someone expressed concern that I was being unhealthy and living contrary to God because I didn't shower twice a day, I would laugh and forget about it...methinks you all doth protest too much....

    May 5, 2013 at 11:39 am |
    • Clarence

      Show me in the Bible where it says being gay is wrong. Then show me the part where it says it's totally up to individual people to judge everybody else for what they perceive is wrong. If you can do both those things, maybe you won't be labeled ignorant bigots, just silly ignorant people who believe in fairy tales before hard scientific facts.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:49 am |
  11. Peaches62

    Here's the rub.....if it is wrong for Christians to use their religion as moral reasoning to subvert others (and I believe it IS wrong), why is it ok for the "other" side to use their secularism to subvert and teach hatred towards Christians? "Hatred" isn't ok from the secular side just because it was displayed by the religious side. It is wrong, where ever it is displayed. Numerous comments have actually quoted the Bible (ye shall reap what ye sow) as justification for hating Christians. I think that the Christian world must find a new path which allows the loving teachings of Christ to exist without the "rule book" of a culture long past. It is a process, it has begun, and it is progressing all of the time. However, the secularist "hatred" against those who struggle with and those who fail in adapting to the changing rules is no more tolerant, or forgiving than they want the Christians become. Double edges cut from all sides.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:39 am |
    • alf

      Peaches they can't handle that kind of truth. It is way to deep for them. They do not care to reason they just want to hate and push forth an agenda. They had behind our Bible too.

      I love Christianity, I love Judaism, I love Islam. I love all people who stand for something. I heard it said that
      If you dont stand for something, then you will fall for anything.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:43 am |
    • Really

      True God-Given morality is objective, timeless, eternal, and unchanging.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Morallity comes by way of DNA and learning once born. Our animal ancestors passed it to us.
      There is no evidence of any of the thousands of gods men have created.
      The DNA does not lie.

      May 9, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      LOL!!! "God given morality." What a joke. You mean the morality that states I can beat my slave as much as I want as long as he survives for at least three days afterward? You mean the morality that says I kill my teenagers the first time they talk back to me or swear or do a few minutes of school work on Sunday afternoon? That morality?

      Or has god changed his mind on those issues-–making it not "unchanging" morality by changing by leapsa nd bounds?

      Xtian xtard fail.

      May 9, 2013 at 11:55 am |
  12. Alex in NJ

    I don't agree with Chris Broussard, but I also find that those demanding tolerance the loudest, are often the least tolerant.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:39 am |
  13. Alex

    Christians arent being persecuted. Radical Christians will say anything is persecution that disagrees with absolutism in terms of faith. For example in gay marriage, allowing gay marriage to happen does not force Christians to become gay. However DOMA does FORCE gays to not have rights others have. If your church doesnt want to marry gays, thats up to your church but as soon as you make it law then its a theocracy.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:38 am |
  14. Jonas

    Please spare us the "Christians as minority" malarkey. About 78 percent of people in America identify as Christian. More than three-quarters of the population does not a "minority" make.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:38 am |
    • Marky

      Indeed. CNN is The Devil. Do not believes its lies.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
  15. The end

    Darwin was married to his cousin, and wrote that s@v@ge blacks were less evolved than whites

    May 5, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • Meritocracy Man

      "Christians a Hated Minority" is a top story at CNN....journalism in the mainstream has died. Thank you NPR, PBS, etc for continuing to provide access to real information.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:44 am |
  16. happyfrenchman

    They view anyone that tells them they are crazy as hate speech.... well... they believe some really crazy things, and for centuries they have imposed that craziness on others... now, when they are getting push back, watch how they will cry and whine.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:37 am |
  17. m

    "Christians" behave nothing like Christ! They hate everyone who doesn't believe what they do. They really SHOULD ask themselves "what WOULD Jesus do!?" And then behave accordingly. The devout "Christians" I have known have been anything but Christ-like! Christ preached peace and forgiveness, "Christians" preach" hatred and intolerance! They can't stay out of other peoples business. They are bullies and sanctimonious jerks and have a lot of nerve to call themselves followers of Christ!

    May 5, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • Answer

      It's because they think they have a special right to condemn others.

      No one granted any religious loser any kind of authority to condemn others. They manufactured their gods to give themselves that authority.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Name*John

      We hate everyone that doesn't believe as we do? You obviously don't know many Christians. Your bigoted blanket statent is quite telling of your real agenda.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • Marky

      The majority of non-Christians are naive about one very important point.

      Us Christians aren't excepted to be Christ-like at all time. It's just encouraged.

      Us Christians became Christians not by good deeds (no no!) but instead by saying alound something like "Dear Jesus, please save me from eternal damnation."

      That's how you become a Christian. I'm a Christian and I can be a real big jerk. But I'm not going to Hell... phwew!

      May 5, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Marky, you write like sh!t.

      May 5, 2013 at 1:37 pm |
  18. Dood

    A lot of the quoting I see here is Old Testament "eye for an eye" stuff. Christ revised this and that is what the New Testament is all about. Please do some research to understand the real message that Christ brought. For society to flourish we must have a moral backbone. Sodom and Gomorrah fell. Rome fell, Greece fell. What did they have in common? A moral decline in society.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:36 am |
    • Lamb of Dog

      Translation:
      Do as you are told or all hell will break loose.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:38 am |
    • Seyedibar

      You can revise your religion all you want. Christ still never existed. Disciples never spread his message. You are worshiping the bizarre remnants of a mystery cult that wrote it's own stories.
      Also, if you want to believe such hogwash as the new testament, Jesus says plainly that all the laws of Leviticus should still be followed, meaning he would have supported violent ideology.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:39 am |
    • Vj

      Which are we supposed to believe, th OT or NT? Your god is mean I am afraid.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • alf

      VJ – God is not mean. LOL

      May 5, 2013 at 11:48 am |
    • Marky

      It's easy to prove Christ existed: historians of his days who did not like him, still wrote about him. So in otherwords, they published something like a newspaper to see "And today, Jesus yet again caused a horrid scene at the town hall. The Roman soldiers may force him out, and I hope they do."

      That's pretty much all the proof you need... this type of writing was all over the place.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
    • Marky

      Seyedibar – I guess you have not been to college yet, but you should go to your closest college and walk into a history professor's office. Tell him/her how you don't understand how historians prove Jesus existed, or Hitler existed, etc. Prepare yourself for a real big eye opening lesson in history.

      May 5, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
  19. Joe800

    This is the difference between believers and us sensible informed people, we dont hate you – we just want you to stop bothering us with your silly book and trying to make our country like some islamic dictatorship. We really dont care if you want to go to your church everyday. Just stop trying to make my kid say prayers during math class. Keep it to yourself. But no, you cant you are compelled to force us into your cult. You hate us, we just want you to go away.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:36 am |
    • alf

      Okay Joe, tell us what you really want. Because I know you have your own idea, but what are they based upon?

      May 5, 2013 at 11:39 am |
    • Marky

      We don't hate you, we just hate the feeling we get when we see you in public kissing and holding hands. It's a real eye sore. Go somewhere else to display your unique gift of acting the opposite of what you were born to be. Blahhhh... just thinking of it make me want to puke. Just go away from our country or our streets and public areas.

      May 5, 2013 at 11:51 am |
    • G to the T

      Wow Marky – I think you and Funky Bunch need to go get some air...

      May 9, 2013 at 10:33 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Marky
      You hate the feeling you get...you see you don't like it because of YOU, not them.
      Perhaps you would be better off in some therapy so you can come to grips with your feelings about yourself...perhaps it is a kind of jealousy that they can do that in public, where you struggle with your own feelings.

      May 9, 2013 at 10:54 am |
  20. Patrick

    The extremist Christians have made a lifestyle out of violating the rights of other Americans for decades now. It's only fitting that they get a taste of their own medicine.

    May 5, 2013 at 11:36 am |
    • m

      Amen, Patrick!!!!!!!!!

      May 5, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • alf

      It about voting- silly boy

      May 5, 2013 at 11:38 am |
    • GK

      Yeah, that's real Christian-like of you, eh?

      May 5, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Rachael

      Exactly!

      May 5, 2013 at 11:49 am |
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