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May 7th, 2013
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Biden urges faith leaders to pressure lawmakers on background checksBy Adam Aigner-Treworgy, CNN (CNN) – During a more than two-hour meeting at the White House on Monday, Vice President Joe Biden asked leaders from across the faith community to keep up pressure on lawmakers to support compromise background check legislation even as Congress begins to shift its focus to immigration reform, according to several attendees who spoke to CNN. Biden urged the roughly 20 faith leaders in attendance not to be discouraged by recent legislative failures, and instead assured them that the White House had not given up. "Even though he suffered a defeat, he didn't sound defeated," said pastor Michael McBride of the PICO National Network. "And we need that kind of hope from the bully pulpit of the White House." In the run-up to last month's Senate vote, religious organizations from across the denominational spectrum pressured members of Congress to vote for background check legislation. Without mentioning the names of any lawmakers, Biden acknowledged the effectiveness of such lobbying efforts and asked those in attendance to continue to target those whose opinions can be swayed. FULL STORY
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We will begin the mass sterilization and lobotomizing of all evangelicals when Hillary becomes potus in 2016.
Why not just let the Muslims drag them through the streets and kill them after watching a movie?
Admit it you are just waiting for someone to say...."But why would a lobotomy be needed?" aren't you?
So where is this witness?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/166278
Sorry, have been watching the hearing since it started, on the internet, CSPAN-3.
Um, asshat? Obama isn't going to resign. Why should he? He did nothing worse than Bush did, in fact he isn't remotely in the same criminal category as Bush. Your tea has been sweetened with poison, obviously.
Pathetic that a foreign news source has to ask what happened to an American admiral-the senior commander in theater. Our U.S. regime propaganda puppets are a joke. We're screwed.
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Yes. This. It is the usual mental image that appears in everyone's minds every time you post.
That's the most intelligent thing you've ever posted.
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They really are a loving, moral, good group of people motivated by nothing more than their desire to express what is in their sweet little hearts
So that's it. Darling sambo wants xtards to begin enjoying heaven as soon as possible. Aww aint't she sweet. See, that why I love her.
it's the christians who are always bloviating about how it will be paradise servicing the savior for eternity. i am just hoping they get their pious selves in gear
My work here is nearly finished. Thanks to me Obama's got a second term, the tea party is on the run and I even managed to get Sarah Palin booted from Fox News. I have accomplished much and am looking forward to a long and well deserved vacation.
And the animal who plans to donkey pound her sore rectum. Ain't that nice? Notice how all the Nazis immediately condemned that foul-mouthed sicko?
Nazis were Christian, figgles. You sure kept Truth's imagery alive in your perverted mind, figgles. Where is your condemnation, figgles? Why do you keep bringing this up if you're not getting off on it, figgles? The idea of a donkey doing you stimulate you, figgles? Seek help figgles. You've crossed the line into insanity, figgles.
It's a crying shame I'm too stupid to know what the phrase 'donkey punch' actually means. I'm so offended over something I can't even define.
Boy suspended for hurling sandwich at PM in Australia. But there's more to the story....
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/sandwich-thrown-as-students-mob-prime-minister-julia-gillard-at-marsden-high/story-e6frfkp9-1226637549328
What the hell is wrong with those people down there? Vegemite sandwich?? I need to take a Tums just from reading the story.
Same for this link mama K.....................commernts ............and Mr Bill Deacon !
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority/#comments
Page 95 know
Ooops.......now............the thumb !
You better run, you better take cover"
That's hilarious.
bill: i only post under Sam Stone. I am a male.
Are sam and sam stone the same poster? Male or female? Why would anybody need more than one handle?
Whoops. Did sambo have a change of mind? So sorry sambo. Do you love me?
Free speech helps to educate the masses..............POLITICIANS TOO !........you too biggles and Bill Deacon !
Hey James Madison................religion has none it looks like.............with the comments on this blog.
The Big question is ETHICS ! does religion have any ?
The Ethics of Resurrecting Extinct Species
Apr. 8, 2013 — At some point, scientists may be able to bring back extinct animals, and perhaps early humans, raising questions of ethics and environmental disruption.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130408165955.htm
The fact...............the earth is to old ...........time to EVOLVE !..................Creationists...........ID believers and christians !
Ancient Earth Crust Stored in Deep Mantle
Apr. 24, 2013 — Scientists have long believed that lava erupted from certain oceanic volcanoes contains materials from the early Earth's crust. But decisive evidence for this phenomenon has proven elusive. New research from a team including Carnegie's Erik Hauri demonstrates that oceanic volcanic rocks contain samples of recycled crust dating back to the Archean era 2.5 billion years ago. Their work is published in Nature.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130424132705.htm
Maybe they should not have created the wedge !!!
The wedge strategy is a political and social action plan authored by the Discovery Insti-tute, the hub of the intelligent design movement. The strategy was put forth in a Discovery Insti-tute manifesto known as the Wedge Docu-ment,[1] which describes a broad social, political, and academic agenda whose ultimate goal is to defeat materialism, naturalism, evolution, and "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic
convictions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy
I love sambo. My hero.
I particularly enjoy it when she encourages believers to end it, quickly, with the weapon of their choice
end it? i thought those posters were sure they were going to go on to paradise. i am wishing nothing but the best for them.....eternity with jeebus
Nonbeliever to believer: "What's the best thing that could ever happen to you?"
Believer in reply: "Oh, that's easy!! The best day ever will be the day I go to join my god in heaven and get to spend eternity with him in bliss and joy without sorrow or pain."
Nonbeliever: "When will that happen?"
Believer: "When I die."
Nonbeliever: "Oh, well, can't you go serve in some dangerous area of the world or end your life so that you can go ahead and start that heaven?"
Believer: "Oh, I don't want an eternity of pure joy and heaven right now!!!"
The modern person instinctively says, “Who are you to tell me what to do?” or “Who are you to set limits to my freedom?”. The Christian intellectually says, “Order your freedom to an objective truth that makes you the person you are meant to be.”
To funny NOT
That reminds me of this piece that Madison did for a gazette that he published:
Who are the Best Keepers of the People's Liberties?
Republican-[answer to the title] The people themselves. The sacred trust can be no where so safe as in the hands most interested in preserving it.
Anti-republican–The people are stupid, suspicious, licentious. They cannot safely trust themselves. When they have established government they should think of nothing but obedience, leaving the care of their liberties to their wiser rulers.
Republican–Although all men are born free, and all nations might be so, yet too true it is, that slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant–they have been cheated; asleep–they have been surprised; divided–the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? That because the people may betray themselves, they ought to give themselves up, blindfold, to those who have an interest in betraying them? Rather conclude that the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it, as well as obey it.
Anti-republican–You look at the surface only, where errors float, instead of fathoming the depths where truth lies hid. It is not the government that is disposed to fly off from the people; but the people that are ever ready to fly off from the government. Rather say then, enlighten the government, warn it to be vigilant, enrich it with influence, arm it with force, and to the people never pronounce but two words–Submission and Confidence.
Republican–The centrifugal tendency then is in the people, not in the government, and the secret art lies in restraining the tendency, by augmenting the attractive principle of the government with all the weight that can be added to it. What a perversion of the natural order of things! To make power the primary and central object of the social system, and Liberty but its satellite.
Anti-republican-The science of the stars can never instruct you in the mysteries of government. Wonderful as it may seem, the more you increase the attractive force of power, the more you enlarge the sphere of liberty; the more you make government independent and hostile towards the people, the better security you provide for their rights and interests. Hence the wisdom of the theory, which, after limiting the share of the people to a third of the government ... establishes two grand hereditary orders ... inveterately hostile to the rights and interests of the people, yet by a mysterious operation all combining to fortify the people in both.
Republican–Mysterious indeed! But mysteries belong to religion, not to government; to the ways of the Almighty, not to the works of man. And in religion itself there is nothing mysterious to its author; the mystery lies in the dimness of the human sight. So in the institutions of man let there be no mystery, unless for those inferior beings endowed with a ray perhaps of the twilight vouchsafed to the first order of terrestrial creation.
Anti-republican–You are destitute, I perceive, of every quality of a good citizen, or rather of a good subject. You have neither the light of faith nor the spirit of obedience. I denounce you to the government as an accomplice of atheism and anarchy.
Republican–And I forbear to denounce you to the people, though a blasphemer of their rights and an idolater of tyranny. Liberty disdains to persecute.
Read this in the past but delighted to do so again mama
Great stuff mama k
'The modern person instinctively says, “Who are you to tell me what to do?” or “Who are you to set limits to my freedom?”.'
This really isn't true. Virtually no one thinks there should be no restraints. Almost all people in all cultures want laws against murder and an culture that holds child molestation as immoral. We all recognize the importance of rules governing which side of the road to drive on and limits on throwing toxic waste in rivers. Further, regardless of religiousbelief people have aninterest inthe findings of psychology and the social sciences and generally seek answers as to how to improve the way they live life. The only difference is in to what extent you accept rules and how restrictive recommendations are.
Update :
See for yourself below.................The fairy in the sky did NOT create us !!!
From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml
Monkey Math: Baboons Show Brain's Ability to Understand Numbers ..........E = mc2..............(U-Pb) numbers do not lie !
May 3, 2013 — Opposing thumbs, expressive faces, complex social systems: it's hard to miss the similarities between apes and humans. Now a new study with a troop of zoo baboons and lots of peanuts shows that a less obvious trait – the ability to understand numbers – also is shared by humans and their primate cousins.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130503132719.htm
OR.........take a ride on a DINO.
Fossil records are better to read than the nasty bible..................no god(s) required !
Oldest? New 'Bone-Head' Dinosaur Hints at Higher Diversity of Small Dinosaurs
May 7, 2013 — Scientists have named a new species of bone-headed dinosaur (pachycephalosaur) from Alberta, Canada. Acrotholus audeti (Ack-RHO-tho-LUS) was identified from both recently discovered and historically collected fossils. Approximately six feet long and weighing about 40 kilograms in life, the newly identified plant-eating dinosaur represents the oldest bone-headed dinosaur in North America, and possibly the world.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130507124800.htm
The Science Guy takes on creationism
CNN|Added on November 24, 2012
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/11/24/intv-nye-creationism.cnn
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority/comment-page-95/#comments
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/07/biden-urges-faith-leaders-to-pressure-lawmakers-on-background-checks/#comments
@Bill Deacon,
"Order your freedom to an objective truth that makes you the person you are meant to be."
What does this mean exactly? "Order your freedoms..." ? Restrict your freedoms based on an objective "truth"?
Good morning me II. Perhaps another way to be obscure about it would be to say something like "Live so that you have the freedom from, rather than the freedom to."
As an example, in seexual matters; "freedom to" degenerates into promiscuity and perversion, "freedom from" promotes chasteness and commitment. Sara is right, in a sense, even proponents of liberal seexual mores admit that there is a line past which they refuse to cross. In this sense they abandon the subjective morality under which no one has authority to impose constraint on others and invoke an objective morality under which adherents are "free" to be who they are.
Another way to describe it which moves into the political rather than the religious would be to say "Liberty without discipline leads to anarchy"
Billy D, take a time out and read what mama k posted of what Madison said. Read it about 400,000 times. Maybe it will sink through your
Billy D, take a time out and read what mama k posted of what Madison said. Read it about 400,000 times. Maybe it will sink through your thick skull.
Aren't those there right winger hand jobs usually the ones kicking and screaming about not having enough freedom?
It would be great if we discovered more notes about that article from Madison. If I were interviewing him, I would want to know if he felt, to some degree, somewhat of an internal, personal allegiance to both sides of the argument. I think he published it not long after some of the Amendments had been ratified.
When it comes to objective truths, objective morality, I would ask Bill the same thing I asked Chad: how has anything come to be labeled an objective truth without consensus among humans? Doesn't that make such things subjective?
@Bill Deacon,
I'm still somewhat confused. You claimed earlier that the "Christian" view was "Ordered" to "objective" morality, and yet late state it "which moves into the political".
Is it not commonly practiced, if not understood, that "freedom" is not absolute, but a compromise intended to achieve the maximum freedom for the maximum number, while preserving a minimum set to all?
What has that to do with "the Christian", as opposed to anyone else?
@Bill Deacon
The modern person instinctively says, “Who are you to tell me what to do?”
Sounds more like a teenager.
or “Who are you to set limits to my freedom?”.
Well tea partiers say this.
Perhaps you are trying to express this reaction: "Who are you to legislate your religious beliefs?"
The Christian intellectually says, “Order your freedom to an objective truth that makes you the person you are meant to be.”
Please explain "objective truth" to me. All I see in those words is an oxymoron.
Here's an example from Scripture
Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
The fruits above are natural moral conditions which I submit are objective. They are morally true, regardless of one's perspective. They cannot be taken by legislative fiat, neither can they be enforced by taxation. If the Christian orders their life according to these fruits, the result is freedom. Freedom from the opposite characteristics. We may choose to discard these freedoms but they still exist even though dormant. Though sin persists, grace abounds all the more so.
In the secular world, I would use freedom of speech as an example. You and I are free to voice our thoughts and opinions. But, no government, corporation or university can compel use to state things to which we are sufficiently opposed. This is an absolute objective truth, that each person's mind belongs to themselves.
Using one's individual mind coupled with education and with an eye to the absolute and objective truth should yield a person who is able to sort between subjective codes, based on perspective, and choose the higher over the lower.
Billy ..............what is the truth .............E = mc2.
Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.
Atheist Prof. Peter Higgs: Stop calling Higgs boson the ‘God particle’
Professor Peter Higgs said recently that there is no God and so people should stop referring to the theoretical partial that
bears his name as the “God particle.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/08/atheist-prof-peter-higgs-stop-calling-higgs-bosen-the-god-particle/
Pope praises science, but insists God created world updated Thur October 28, 2010
Stephen Hawking is wrong, Pope Benedict XVI said Thursday – God did create the universe. The pope didn't actually mention the world-famous scientist, who argues in a book published last month that the laws of physics show there is no need for a supreme... \
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/28/pope-praises-science-but-insists-god-created-world/
Science
Heaven is 'a fairy story,' scientist Stephen Hawking says updated Tue May 17, 2011
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor The concept of heaven or any kind of afterlife is a "fairy story," famed British scientist Stephen Hawking said in a newspaper interview this week. "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when...
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/17/heaven-is-a-fairy-story-scientist-stephen-hawking-says/!Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.
Atheist Prof. Peter Higgs: Stop calling Higgs boson the ‘God particle’
Professor Peter Higgs said recently that there is no God and so people should stop referring to the theoretical partial that
bears his name as the “God particle.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/08/atheist-prof-peter-higgs-stop-calling-higgs-bosen-the-god-particle/
Pope praises science, but insists God created world updated Thur October 28, 2010
Stephen Hawking is wrong, Pope Benedict XVI said Thursday – God did create the universe. The pope didn't actually mention the world-famous scientist, who argues in a book published last month that the laws of physics show there is no need for a supreme... \
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/28/pope-praises-science-but-insists-god-created-world/
Science
Heaven is 'a fairy story,' scientist Stephen Hawking says updated Tue May 17, 2011
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor The concept of heaven or any kind of afterlife is a "fairy story," famed British scientist Stephen Hawking said in a newspaper interview this week. "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when...
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/17/heaven-is-a-fairy-story-scientist-stephen-hawking-says/!!
BD You accuse Tom of being a coward, look in the mirror Bill you are the coward and hypocrite.
Well it still boils down to the question of God again, right, Bill? – even for objective morality. One must prove God before they can prove objective morality or any objective "truth". That would be the only way to completely remove consensus from consideration. Even for the theist, there's been a whole lotta consensus and subjectivity since those words from above were first allegedly heard, recorded, translated and remixed.
Sorry ME II just realized I didn't answer your question. Yes, as I understand it, in order for society to function, we must each sacrifice a portion of our unrestrained freedom for the good of our neighbor. That's why speed limits are good, to borrow from Sara again. Other limits are good too, though some are too restrictive.
In my opinion, the purpose of religion is to direct us toward the objective truth while the purpose of government is to sort out the compromises between various subjective interests. This is why the debate between science and religion is a red herring. Science is merely a tool. The real debate is between forces who would enslave humans by either total restriction of freedom (think totalitarian fascism or Sharia), or conversely capitalize on the anarchy of pure liberty (hedonistic liberality)
I submit that the Catholic Church strikes the right chord. If one can get past the faulty characterizations of the social doctrine and the human failings of some members, the Catholic teachings have a lot to say and a lot of history behind them pointing a way forward. As a matter of faith, I accept the dogma of the Church as infallible but the teaching I typically try to submit from a perch of "The Church teaches..."
"objective truth"???????
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Religion is subjective perspective if anything...that is why it requires faith....it lacks credibility
BD Well good for you, Bill. You are beginning to understand you maybe a Catholic but you are certainly not a Christian, bid difference.
You're probably right mama. The problem appears when you get enough people to agree on a subjective truth, they begin to think it is objective. I don't think that means no objective truth exists. I think it just means it can be elusive to pick out. Maybe the best use of the two terms is to remind myself that personal conviction doesn't ratify my perspective. AS a result, I need an outside source to get a reality check. I don't really care where one finds objective truth. Personally I found it in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Once I have that impressed upon my philosophy, I can maneuver through the world, exercising the freedoms afforded me by the fruits of the spirit and the protections of the Constiitution. But, were the constiitution cease to exist, the fruit would still be evident.
JMEF I thought you said you were Irish? Are you telling me now your Scottish?
@Bill Deacon,
I have no objection to your quote from Galatians as 'objective truth' (in so far as a 'universal' truth might be defined).
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."
The problem is that many religionists (mostly Biblical literalists) will use Leviticus as "objective truth". This is very different from what you quoted.
BD No that was science, pay attention. If I were Irish I may have been brainwashed into the cult, I thank what ever god's there be for my unconquerable self. Don't got no soul or rhythm for that matter. Catholic is not the same as Christ's teachings, don't you know.
@Bill Deacon,
So, if I understand correctly, you have chosen the moral teachings of the Catholic Church because you view them as the best approach to what you view as the best good. correct?
BD Off topic but do you wear Prada slippers or just contribute to others wearing Prada slippers?
ME II
No, Bill choses the crutch of the RCC and confession to allow him to live with his wretched self, do not kick the crutches away from the moral cripple. The confessional is Bill's second home.
Iam fvcking Irish Bill and a mother in-law from Ja-pan......you know about the a bomb don't you BILL ?
Or do you want a fvcking history LESSON TOO ?
Oops thist is for Bill !
Me II , yes, I think that is correct.
Did you forget this one Bill................... about the angels ?
And NO ANGELS then old pope KICKED them in OFF the TEAM last year !
From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml
Pope's book on Jesus challenges Christmas traditions
By Laura Smith-Spark, CNN
updated 10:56 AM EST, Fri November 23, 2012
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/22/world/europe/vatican-pope-jesus-book/index.html?iref=allsearch
All these years Bill and there are suppose to be angels.......................then poof go the angels according to the old pope;.......
where are the morals there Bill ?
Or is that to simple for you Bill ?
Well Bill ...................pretty sad you THINK that is correct..........Shows what religion can do ?
who have i threatened, biggles?
come on, big mouth
support your blather.......
so, pen-day-ho....who have i threatened, and where have i lied?
my suggestion of an express trip to the hearafter was not directed at christians as a whole, but pompous chumps such as yourself
and, you are still welcome to forces jeebus
"Nun, two others in federal court":
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/07/justice/nun-nuclear-breach-charges/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1
Separation of church and state is really warranted here. 🙂 But I hope they aren't actually given time to serve.
mama k.............Politians have forgoten that it seems like............the separation issue !
and they do not have a leg to stand on !
Update :
See for yourself below.................The fairy in the sky did NOT create us !!!
From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml
Monkey Math: Baboons Show Brain's Ability to Understand Numbers ..........E = mc2..............(U-Pb) numbers do not lie !
May 3, 2013 — Opposing thumbs, expressive faces, complex social systems: it's hard to miss the similarities between apes and humans. Now a new study with a troop of zoo baboons and lots of peanuts shows that a less obvious trait – the ability to understand numbers – also is shared by humans and their primate cousins.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130503132719.htm
OR.........take a ride on a DINO.
Fossil records are better to read than the nasty bible..................no god(s) required !
Oldest? New 'Bone-Head' Dinosaur Hints at Higher Diversity of Small Dinosaurs
May 7, 2013 — Scientists have named a new species of bone-headed dinosaur (pachycephalosaur) from Alberta, Canada. Acrotholus audeti (Ack-RHO-tho-LUS) was identified from both recently discovered and historically collected fossils. Approximately six feet long and weighing about 40 kilograms in life, the newly identified plant-eating dinosaur represents the oldest bone-headed dinosaur in North America, and possibly the world.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130507124800.htm
The Science Guy takes on creationism
CNN|Added on November 24, 2012
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/11/24/intv-nye-creationism.cnn
mama k.................it might be to simple though ?
Hey, leave little fatty sambo alone. Just cause she's god and knows all, don't mean she deserves disrespect. Actually, she's very sweet. Yes, she has problems lying, swearing, threatening, feeling superior, hoping xtards will kill themselves, but it is all a function of her loving heart!
what is the idiot Biden talking about?Everyone today that buys a weapon has a background check except for private sales.
Even if you have a conceal to carry permit ............if finger prints aren,t on record...........in state I reside you have to wait
7 days before you can take the weapon out of store !
You seem to forget the technology is moving forward...People in their homes can print weapons using 3d rendering technology.
Why buy when you can make your own.These weapons only have one small piece of metal for the firing pin, otherwise undetectable. Good luck governing that.
RC............got one ...............neat stuff.
Fossil records are better to read than the nasty bible..................no god(s) required !!!.....POLITIANS should KNOW THIS !!!
Oldest? New 'Bone-Head' Dinosaur Hints at Higher Diversity of Small Dinosaurs
May 7, 2013 — Scientists have named a new species of bone-headed dinosaur (pachycephalosaur) from Alberta, Canada. Acrotholus audeti (Ack-RHO-tho-LUS) was identified from both recently discovered and historically collected fossils. Approximately six feet long and weighing about 40 kilograms in life, the newly identified plant-eating dinosaur represents the oldest bone-headed dinosaur in North America, and possibly the world.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130507124800.htm
Oops.........forgot this !
From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml
If Biden had any intelligence, he would disavow his religion and all other religions based on the theological and historical errors in all of these idiotic beliefs.
And who is paying for the cost of these kinds of meetings? Is not there a large budget deficit we should be doing something about?
STFU
I'm sure that if you get Joe drunk enough he'll agree with anything you say.
In order to pay down our $16 trillion debt, we need to redirect money used to support/control religions especially the christian and islamic cons and put it towards paying off our obligations..
To wit:
Redirecting our funds and saving a lot of "souls":
Saving 1.5 billion lost Muslims:
There never were and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam and therefore no more koranic-driven acts of horror and terror LIKE 9/11.
– One trillion dollars over the next several years as the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan will end.
– Eighteen billion dollars/yr to Pakistan will stop.
– Four billion dollars/yr to Egypt will end.
Saving 2 billion lost Christians including the Mormons:
There were never any bodily resurrections and there will never be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity!!!
– The Mormon ti-the empire will now become taxable as will all Christian "religions" and evangelical non-profits since there is no longer any claim to being a tax-exempt religion.
– the faith-based federal projects supported by both Bush and Obama will be eliminated saving $385 million/yr and another $2 billion/yr in grants.
Giving to religious groups in 2010, totaled $95.8 billion, mostly to Christian groups.
– Saving 15.5 million Orthodox followers of Judaism:
Abraham and Moses never existed.
– Four billion dollars/yr to Israel saved.
– All Jewish sects and non-profits will no longer be tax exempt.
Now all we need to do is convince these 3.5+ billion global and local citizens that they have been conned all these centuries Time for a YouTube,Twitter and FaceBook campaign!!!!
That's a bit disingenuous of you. I'm sure you know that if Biden – or any other politician – were to do that, it would be the end of their political career. It's not really about intelligence, more about self-preservation. Not that I'm suggesting for a moment that Biden is actually intelligent.
Jesus and shotguns - woohoo! that's what the bible's all about!
Yup, everyone knows that Jesus would be openly carrying a Glock if he were around today.
I see Jesus as more of a hands on guy, I think he would use a sledge hammer.
praise the lord and pass the ammunition!