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Vatican swaps Old Masters for modernity with Venice Biennale debut
May 14th, 2013
02:22 PM ET

Vatican swaps Old Masters for modernity with Venice Biennale debut

By Bryony Jones, CNN

(CNN) - Its art collection is the envy of galleries the world over, but until now the Vatican has been better known for Renaissance masterpieces rather than hip modernist artworks.

That may be about to change: the home of the Catholic Church has announced it will exhibit at the ultra-fashionable Venice Biennale for the first time later this year.

In a bold move away from the works of Michelangelo, Rafael and Giotto for which it is renowned, the Holy See picked Italian new media art collective Studio Azzurro, Czech-French photographer Josef Koudelka, and Australian-born U.S. painter Lawrence Carroll to interpret its chosen theme.

But the subject itself is one of the oldest and most traditional: the pavilion, inspired by Genesis, the first book of the Bible, is entitled "In the Beginning."

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- Dan Merica

Filed under: Art • Catholic Church • Vatican

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  1. CHURCH OF ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    We are now accepting memberships for 2014, we enroll on a first-come-first-served basis.

    May 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      First 50 members, is given Halal heart of infidel, truth absolute, ism, in GOD, delicious.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
    • Shariah bin Laden, virgin mother of Mohammad bin Laden

      Islam sucks.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:49 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      The coffee is yummy, what it is there?

      May 14, 2013 at 8:10 pm |
  2. Ben

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    May 14, 2013 at 7:16 pm |
    • sam

      You know what never happens in here? No one ever quotes the bible. I was just saying the other day "You know what would be great, on pretty much EVERY article? Someone to respond with maybe a bible quote or three." And lo and behold, here you are.

      Thanks, Ben. No one ever quotes the bible anymore.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:25 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      sam, damn straight. It would be a bonus for all of us if John 3:16 were quoted more often too. Can't get enough John 3:16.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:29 pm |
    • sam

      RIGHT, Apple? It is just really thoughtful to have bible quotes dropped without any other commentary, too, no thoughts, just quotes. I feel like it really connects you with the person who's posting, really lets you know where they're coming from.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:35 pm |
    • Ha ha ha ha

      I'm not feeling the love because that bible quote is not in the original Hebrew. Ben is a hater because he speaks English.

      May 14, 2013 at 9:26 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      I always wonder why an omnipotent, ominscient, and omnipresent god couldn't find a better way to deal with whatever it didn't like about its creation; it's almost as if its actions are the imaginings of ancient tribes ruled by superstitions.

      May 14, 2013 at 9:33 pm |
    • sam stone

      do you seriously desire ETERNAL life?

      May 15, 2013 at 7:34 am |
    • sam stone

      Seriously, Ben...why would anyone desire eternal life?

      May 15, 2013 at 10:28 am |
  3. Ben

    “Most people, if they had really learned to look into their own hearts, would know that they do want, and want acutely, something that cannot be had in this world. There are all sorts of things in this world that offer to give it to you, but they never quite keep their promise.
    “At present we are on the outside… the wrong side of the door. We discern the freshness and purity of morning, but they do not make us fresh and pure. We cannot mingle with the pleasures we see. But all the pages of the New Testament are rustling with the rumor that it will not always be so. Someday, God willing, we shall get “in”… We will put on glory… that greater glory of which Nature is only the first sketch.
    We do not want to merely “see” beauty–though, God knows, even that is bounty enough. We want something else which can hardly be put into words–to be united with the beauty we see, to pass into it, to receive it into ourselves, to bathe in it, to become part of it.
    –C.S Lewis

    May 14, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
    • Destroy all religion NOW

      That sounds pretty gay, Ben. Are you sure we can't get you something? Like a link to a gay dating website?

      May 14, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Ben,

      Though this world is so loved by God, none of mankind's riches will be of glorifying acclaim.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:29 pm |
  4. lionlylamb

    Gee whiz by golly! I'm sure the catholic socialites will be ever so 'moved'! Art infidels

    May 14, 2013 at 6:37 pm |
  5. JMEF

    Hey BD. Picture could be called "The Groping" nightmare of an altar boy of events in the sacristy. The good old RCC tradition of the reach around, so many hands.

    May 14, 2013 at 6:35 pm |
  6. CommonSensed

    Does anyone hear know ASL? Trying to figure out what the hands are trying to say...

    May 14, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
    • Colin

      Yes, they are saying, "Anybody who, in the 21st Century, still believes that a Greco-Roman Jewish girl was impregnated by the creator of the Universe so he could give birth to himself, then sacrifice himself to himself to forgive the "original sin" of a couple we now all know never existed, is a fvcking moron."

      May 14, 2013 at 6:37 pm |
    • Dippy

      They're also saying CommonSensed doesn't know the difference between "hear" and "here."

      May 14, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
    • Destroy all religion NOW

      Translation: DERP!

      May 14, 2013 at 7:22 pm |
  7. CommonSensed

    I wonder if the Belief contributors/authors realize their articles all devolve to silly trolls bickering in the forums...

    May 14, 2013 at 6:09 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      By way of GOD, truth absolute, ism, hindu ism leads to way of donkey, bad comment ism in comment section, way of hindu, ism, Pakistan is greatest stan.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:15 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      I mean Pakistan is greatest satan

      May 14, 2013 at 7:44 pm |
  8. Apple Bush

    My parish is having a "Beat Hotel" revival and there will be readings from Burroughs' "Naked Lunch" and Kerouac's "Bowery Blues". This will be a hoot! And free cookies!

    May 14, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • derp

      How many little boys will they molest?

      May 14, 2013 at 6:01 pm |
    • JMEF

      AB...were you doing the boneless chicken shtick....very funny.

      May 14, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
    • Prophet of Baking

      Yes, free cookies from their bondage! Let my cookies GO!

      May 14, 2013 at 9:28 pm |
  9. CHURCH OF ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    Please join our community today and be blessed by GOD truth absolute.

    Our core beliefs:

    1. No goat urine in the coffee.
    2. CONSTITUTION is spelled CONSTI TUTION.
    3. Belief in the undefined "Absolute Truth" absolutely.
    4. Hindu people....well just don't.
    5. CAPS LOCK cures cancer.

    Bless you brothers and sisters!

    May 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      National drink of hindu india, Urine cola.

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAecqY2sbWQ&w=640&h=360]

      May 14, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • CHURCH OF ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      Thank you father. Amen.

      May 14, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
    • DD

      I disagree with number 5 and number 6.

      May 14, 2013 at 9:29 pm |
  10. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    STFU

    When it comes to war, do not believe every thing you see or hear, it could very well be a hoax like many others to discredit each other. Eating human flesh, out of question in Islam.

    May 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm |
    • Destroy all religion NOW

      No it isn't. Besides, he was just "biting" it, so its okay, right?

      May 14, 2013 at 7:24 pm |
    • sam

      Yeah, it wasn't that big of a bite. Maybe if he just gnawed on it, is that okay? What needs to be done to make it halal?

      May 14, 2013 at 7:27 pm |
  11. Camel Lt

    does anyone know in which way Catholics are similar to muslims?

    May 14, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      both hated by bankers?

      May 14, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      Shia ism is invented on fundamentals of Catholic ism, hindu savior ism of Egyptian and Persian origin.by hinduism, corruption of teachings of truth absolute GOD.

      May 14, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • meifumado

      So is it Halal to eat a shia persons heart as long as you say Allahu akbar?

      May 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm |
    • derp

      Both think it is alright if you rump bang children?

      May 14, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Neither church pays taxes.

      May 14, 2013 at 6:46 pm |
    • Katy A.

      They are similar in that they are both so horribly insane the best solution would be to obliterate them completely.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:05 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      All infidel, is Halal by order of GOD, ALLAH, Sharia law ism, dictates, the other other white meat.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:12 pm |
    • Destroy all religion NOW

      They both have no redeeming characteristics whatsoever. Why seek similarities? Looking to hook up with some gay muslims?

      May 14, 2013 at 7:25 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      Dayum, why do I never meet anyone like Katy in real life? I need to get out more. You go, girl!

      May 14, 2013 at 8:07 pm |
    • sam stone

      Both feature vindictive, petty gods?

      May 15, 2013 at 7:37 am |
  12. Uncouth Swain

    Glad to see that the Vatican is opening up to the modern arts. What we look at the "classics" done 400+ years ago were the hip new stuff of that time.

    May 14, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
    • Destroy all religion NOW

      Your words are empty and meaningless once again. You are not a Catholic, so I guess you're just trolling.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:28 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @DarN- "Your words are empty and meaningless once again. You are not a Catholic, so I guess you're just trolling."

      I'm sorry...who are you again? I didn't know CNN hired a bigoted moderator. Perhaps you could tell me how my words are empty and meaningless beyond you just not grasping their meaning.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:49 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      LOL
      That was me trolling. U mad?

      May 14, 2013 at 8:08 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Why would I be mad?

      May 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      Please explain what you mean when you ask me that.

      May 14, 2013 at 8:20 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      It was a simple enough question for a simple person such as yourself.

      May 14, 2013 at 8:22 pm |
    • Destroy all religion NOW

      And yet you refuse to explain? Why?

      May 14, 2013 at 9:32 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Because there is nothing to explain.

      May 14, 2013 at 9:42 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      Explain how there can be nothing to explain if there is something you said.
      Anything can be explained. Maybe you're just too stupid to know how.
      Explain that, if you will....

      May 14, 2013 at 9:54 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "Explain how there can be nothing to explain if there is something you said."

      Perhaps after you explain why I would be mad.

      "Anything can be explained. Maybe you're just too stupid to know how."

      Or the game doesn't require it my little wind up toy.

      May 15, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
  13. The Message

    A sermon by Billy Graham
    The Bible says, “He that hardeneth his heart, being often reproved, shall suddenly be cut off and not without remedy” [see Proverbs 29:1].

    You never know. To some of you who go out on the slick highways this afternoon, this may be the last sermon you will ever hear. In every crusade we have ever conducted anywhere, there have been people who have come to the meeting in good health and never came back because they were dead in the next few hours through an accident, or a heart attack, or something else.

    We never know when our moment is coming. Maybe God spoke to you this afternoon, and your heart is in danger of being hardened. Some of you are older people; some of you are younger people. The Bible says once you hear the Gospel and do nothing about it, you are in danger of being hardening your heart.

    But, last of all, there were some that made a decision [see Acts 17:34]. They received Christ and went their way rejoicing. I am going to ask you today to receive Him. I am not asking you this afternoon to join some special church. I’m asking you today to give your life to Christ.

    You may be a member of a choir. I don’t know who you are or what you are, but you want to give your life to Christ on this opening Sunday afternoon. I’m going to ask you to do a hard thing, because coming to Christ is not easy. So many people have made it too easy. Jesus went to the cross and died in your place. Certainly, you can come a few steps from where you are sitting and stand here, quietly and reverently, and with bowed head. And say, “I need God; I need Christ. I want to be forgiven of my sins. I want a new life, and I want to start a new direction today.”

    May 14, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • The Reply

      Jesus was dragged to the cross because he was a dick.

      May 14, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
    • ~

      @The Reply- if that is the criteria, guess you will be going to a cross soon enough won't ya?

      May 14, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
    • meifumado

      What does this crap have to do with anything?
      Sure we can go at any time, that's why you need to embrace reality and enjoy the ONE life you have while you are alive.

      May 14, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • CommonSensed

      And what was it Jesus said about proselytizing?

      You sinner...

      May 14, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • Iron sharpens

      If you do not want to hear the word of God, does it make sense for you to be in this blog?

      May 14, 2013 at 6:40 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      "If you do not want to hear the word of God, does it make sense for you to be in this blog?"

      It is a BELIEF blog, nowhere does it specify what belief.

      May 14, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Do you think that comment is restricted to your god and your beliefs?

      May 14, 2013 at 6:47 pm |
    • Iron sharpens

      Why are you spending your entire days here on Christian articles?

      May 14, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      How is it your business?

      May 14, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
    • Pole dancing for Jesus

      Of course they think that – they're christians. They think that their beliefs must form the basis of society and law.

      May 14, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
    • Iron sharpens

      Ito find an article that resonates with your faith

      May 14, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
    • Iron sharpens

      If you spend your entire day here then you are going to hear about God.

      May 14, 2013 at 6:53 pm |
    • Romnesia

      iron sharpens except in your case

      May 14, 2013 at 6:53 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      So basically "go away, we don't care what you have to say"...oops sucks to be you, there other blogs specified to your belief system if you can't handle us being here. We have a right to freedom of speech on any topic we wish to comment on. So nope we will remain commenting no matter how bad it breaks your poor christard heart to read it.

      May 14, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
    • Iron sharpens

      Keep coming back to hear about God. Your welcome!

      May 14, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      "If you spend your entire day here then you are going to hear about God."

      Really??? You're kidding right?? We would never have guessed that fact, if you hadn't popped out of the magical blue christard space and let us know. Should you not be running along and doing your homework now?? Let the adults talk now!

      May 14, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      No Iron, really we don't care about hearing your imaginary friends word, most of this babble from your christards is just humorous for us. In fact we probably know more about your imaginary friend than you do....once again run along, the adults are speaking!

      May 14, 2013 at 6:59 pm |
    • Iron sharpener

      Wearing a pair of rubber boots and kicking a rock is not a wise thing, you lose.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:08 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Is that all you're capable of coming back with? You asked why we're here, we told you and then you sounded like a condescending little brat...acting like you have a clue. Maybe if you acted like an adult, you'd be treated as one.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:13 pm |
    • Katy A.

      Truth Prevails, you do not sound like much of an adult when you say that.
      I cannot stop you from being extra snotty and condescending, but you should be ashamed of yourself.
      Not because I like fundies, but because you sound like a snot.
      Take a deep breath, let it out, take a break, and stop acting like a child.
      "The adults are talking now so STFU" is a disgusting thing to say to anyone, regardless of how insane or stupid they are.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Woiw Katy,, he got what he gave! He came here trying to push his belief and asking moronic questions and stating more moronic crap even after things were explained. Like I said maybe if he acted differently he would have been treated differently.
      Not once did I say ""The adults are talking now so STFU" those are your words, sorry. Nor would I EVER say that.
      However I am well entitled to speak my mind and call a person out when they are in the wrong...it really does suck to be him.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
    • fred

      Truth Prevails
      "It is a BELIEF blog, nowhere does it specify what belief."
      => I thought atheists did not have a cult. Well thanks for letting the cat out of the bag. Tell me what happens when you die in your belief. What is the purpose of your existence?

      May 14, 2013 at 7:20 pm |
    • sam

      Today's NEWBIE OUTRAGE!!!1!! is brought to you by Katy A. We now return you to...well, whatever.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
    • sam

      In case you haven't heard it at least once already today, fred....fuck you.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Fred: I merely stated and meant that this blog is not specifically a christian blog. Nowhere does it say that.
      As for the purpose of my life, given that I don't accept your concept or any other concept of an after life, the purpose of my life is to live the best possible life now...to be happy and make others happy, to love and be loved, to experience all I can, to do what I can to better this world.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:26 pm |
    • Destroy all religion NOW

      How ironic to see fred here. I guess fred's god doesn't want him today.
      What's wrong, fool? Did you think there are rules to this place?
      I'm not surprised you are so easily confused.
      Your god is not known for telling people things.
      It is fundies like you who are known for pretending everything you see is a message meant just for you.
      Do us all a favor and find the smartest Christian you know and send them here to wrassle with us demon-tainted hell-bound anti-Christs.
      We'll appreciate seeing new blood on the walls. Yours is too watery and weak.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:40 pm |
    • fred

      Truth Prevails 😦
      "the purpose of my life is to live the best possible life now...to be happy and make others happy, to love and be loved, to experience all I can, to do what I can to better this world."

      =>Name calling Christians on a blog, is that the best possible life now?
      =>To love and make others happy? ok if we appreciate our God whom we love being insulted
      =>all the experiences you can have amount to meaningless exchanges of chemicals that give an illusion if life is simply an accident without purpose outside of itself.
      See, what the original post was about was an experience that you and Steve reject. So basically you want to experience what you want to experience. That is selfish desire. That is what tore Eve from the garden and what tears you from meeting you own stated meaning in life "to experience all you can"

      May 14, 2013 at 7:40 pm |
    • Katy A.

      Okay, I tried. You say you're a loving person? Then what are you doing here? This is a hater place.
      Crazy people are sick in the head. You castigate them for being sick when it really is not their fault. Why?
      You must need to just lash out at cripples. I hope you feel good about that. It seems you do.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:46 pm |
    • fred

      Truth Prevails 🙂
      Hope in the promise offered to Able, Seth, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph etc is an experience that will bring about that which you claim brings meaning to existence. I understand you once were a believer however, you cannot hold the promise of God in your heart and walk away from it. That promise is overpowering and opens a field of view not available to Steve. It is the power and joy that comes with the presence of God. The promise is a new heaven and a new earth. The promise is renewal now and eternal.
      Look around you and see the signs of renewal. See the signs of creation that are beyond wonder forever extending and bringing forth newness in life. When a flower dies it is not the end but the beginning of a field of beauty that reaches to the sun in constant renewal. Even our universe is constantly expanding at an ever increasing pace to new horizons. 🙂

      May 14, 2013 at 7:50 pm |
    • fred

      sam
      It seems Destroy all religion NOW would like to receive your greeting, just in case he has not heard it today.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      People be hatin on me all da time, yo.
      HAHAHAHAHa!
      Go ahead and give me your best shot, fred. I can guarantee you an interesting conversation / argument/ or we can blast away at each other. I'm not too picky right now. LOL

      May 14, 2013 at 8:12 pm |
    • Why Destroy religion NOW?

      y?

      May 14, 2013 at 8:16 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      If you can't imagine why, or are simply too clueless, then I am not going to bother explaining. It is self-evident. LOL

      May 14, 2013 at 8:22 pm |
    • Why Destroy religion NOW?

      You could have just said you didn't know.

      May 14, 2013 at 8:24 pm |
    • fred

      Why Destroy?
      God cannot be destroyed because God simply is. Eternal presence by definition cannot be destroyed. Even the Bible which hints at a prior catastrophic battle of the principalities between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 reveals the result was this creation we now experience and on the 7th day God rested as the creation was very good.
      When Satan did every thing possible to destroy Christ it turned out to be Gods plan of redemption at the cross. Jesus said it is finished. Death has no sting for the saved who believe in Christ as it is a finished work.
      In the last 2,000 years we have been in the age of the church and as your posts so well reflect you want to destroy the church. That you may be successful at because it will usher in the new heaven and the new earth.
      How about that God who continues to amaze and baffle us with wonder! God bless you

      May 14, 2013 at 8:38 pm |
    • Ben

      fred, I don't think you have much grasp of what you are talking about. If a god is really a god, then why is Satan such a problem for it to just deal with.

      On a another subject that you have tried to step into, how is a sacrifice/redemption exercise a requirement for healing or removing anything, for a god? That idea is specious anyway, and probably just was stolen by Christianity from some of the early blood cults that it is loosely based on.

      May 14, 2013 at 8:48 pm |
    • fred

      Ben
      Satan is not a problem for God as witnessed by the fact Satan could do nothing to keep the plan of salvation from running its course. All Satan did with all that evil was to bring out the goodness in souls that truly belong to God. This was the culmination of mans free will, Satans free will doing everything imaginable yet the end result is all things work for the good of those who are in Christ.

      Salvation is necessary because mans free will chose desire over God rejecting that which God created for man. God is perfect infinite goodness and perfect justice. God is not departmentalized so goodness and justice are one with God. Perfect goodness can only be reconciled with perfect justice through atonement. Jesus sacrificed himself so that goodness if fully satisfied in our salvation and justice is fully satisfied in the price paid for us by Jesus.

      May 14, 2013 at 9:30 pm |
    • Destroy all religion NOW

      fred, I cannot destroy something that doesn't exist, such as your puling god who can't do anything real.
      But I can destroy your fantasy-world in many different ways, since that DOES exist inside your head.
      There is nothing you can say or do, no matter how big and wonderful your fantasy father-figure is supposed to be, that will make him real.
      If he can't get in touch with anyone or do anything, what makes you think he actually exists? Because he doesn't.

      May 14, 2013 at 9:39 pm |
    • Salero21

      I think Katy called fred a cripple? Looks like it, and I am ok with that. It is true.

      Every one of you haters is going to catch butt flu from the hom.os.

      May 14, 2013 at 11:40 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Fred: Yes, we reject your god just as we reject all gods. Insulting something that can't be shown to exist is not much of an insult though nor does it equate to not being a loving person. In the end we're not too worried because you have no way of knowing what, if anything awaits you in the end and as far as it is known, once death takes over there is nothing more.

      Katy: Great judgement little girl. You're not worth any more of my time or that of anyone else..3 comments made by you and you look like a supporter of the christards..way to be a POE.

      May 15, 2013 at 4:43 am |
    • Science

      Hey sally is that you doogie hanging out with the red devil.?

      May 15, 2013 at 7:18 am |
    • sam stone

      I liked the conversations Billy Boy had with Nixon.....really shows compassionate christianity

      May 15, 2013 at 7:39 am |
    • fred

      Truth Prevails 🙂
      “ we reject your god just as we reject all gods.”
      =>You are without evidence or any scientific support whatsoever to conclude existence is an accident. This means you have in fact established your belief and or rejection of God on faith in your own construct of purpose. Perhaps you subconsciously find the need to support Steve’s unfounded beliefs yet the bottom line is that you exhibit faith. Faith in Steve’s construct of meaning or purpose for an accidental existence or your own empty purpose (empty as without cause for existence there can be no purpose) still forms your core belief. You can deny God but you cannot deny you believe.

      “Insulting something that can't be shown to exist is not much of an insult”
      =>Christ is very personal to a believer and is loved as much as one would love another that has been with them through thick or thin. Yes it is an insult and the insults and mocking are clear signs of two types of souls that have eternal destiny. Perhaps if Jesus saved your life and your family (real or imagined) you would also be sad when Jesus is attacked without cause.

      “nor does it equate to not being a loving person.”
      =>If I began to smear a group of cat lovers that think the world of their cats that is not a loving person because I am trying to hurt and say hurtful things.

      “once death takes over there is nothing more.”
      =>all things are created or are the result of created things. Organic matter decomposes and certain chemical reactions cease but life was never in the physical as the physical was simply a manifestation of the life. Your life is not your flesh and bones but the life force that is you. You children’s is not the chemical reactions on organic matter but the life force we call essence. Self awareness alone should make it obvious that your life force is part of something much greater than the physical.

      May 15, 2013 at 9:24 am |
  14. HeavenSent

    @meifumado

    Atheists on these articles post lies about the Truth of Jesus and want to be mini-gods. Your pride will not please our Father God. My kittens are doing better in the freezer. Follow His truth or enjoy your own personal worm for eternity.

    Amen.

    May 14, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
    • meifumado

      FREE THE PU$$Y!

      Take them out of the freezer its much better when warm!

      May 14, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
    • meifumado

      And I still wanna see your camel-toe unless your obese or to fat.

      May 14, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      @meifumado

      Keep believing in the lies of your lord satan and enjoy your own personal worm feeding on your juices for all eternity. The kitties are in the freezer to be next to the litter box. Carnal atheist, ask Jesus for forgiveness and sin no more!

      Amen.

      May 14, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • meifumado

      Could I put my worm in your litter box and feel the juices?

      May 14, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
    • meifumado

      You should not put down the great lord Satan, He has kept youR religion in business for centuries!

      May 14, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • Dippy

      meifumado, it's "unless you're obese or too fat," not "unless your obese or to fat." Please learn English.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
  15. JMEF

    Way too many hands for "in the beginning". Adam two, Eve two, toss in god two, still not enough, maybe the talking snake made up the rest. The watch also looks out of place, the Vatican, Disneyland for Christians but the admission price is higher. Cash flow is the religion.

    May 14, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • meifumado

      It's an awful picture. I hope nobody was paid for this trash.

      May 14, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      Talking snakes with hands doing sign language. Okayyy. What are you guys smoking? Do you see the hands in the picture moving? Are the walls melting yet?

      May 14, 2013 at 7:50 pm |
  16. HeavenSent

    Liars and beggars. Jesus said He would bring unto us teachers, having itchy ears. You atheists insist on following your father satan. My camel-toe itches but it is better now that the fabric is completely gone. Join the right team or lose in the game.

    Amen.

    May 14, 2013 at 3:24 pm |
    • Camel Lt

      are you moslem?

      May 14, 2013 at 3:31 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      @Camel Lt

      I am a Christian and follow His truth (God) which was delivered to us on Earth by His son (Jesus). Follow it or perish in hell, period. My camel-toe raced at 2pm and made the finals. Keep throwing rocks until you break Heaven's ceiling.

      Amen.

      May 14, 2013 at 3:47 pm |
    • meifumado

      Post pics of said camel-toe or you lie.

      May 14, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      Smells like summer in here.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:51 pm |
  17. Reality

    From the article:

    "But the subject itself is one of the oldest and most traditional: the pavilion, inspired by Genesis, the first book of the Bible, is ent-itled "In the Beginning."

    Now for some 21st century reality:

    Adam and Eve are myths making original sin mythological and Christian Baptism symbolic. (Also taught in graduate theology classes at many major Catholic universities).

    Added details-

    Lets begin at the “beginning” with just a few pages from the Book i.e. Genesis and the creation of “Creation” without any need to read the OT cover to cover. Whoever the Jewish scribes were, it has been shown that “they were mostly religious propagandists who didn’t let historical truth get in the way of a (morally or theologically) good story.” (Noah is another great “good” story). For example, even the Catholic Church teaches the mythical/fictional nature of Adam and Eve and the magical garden. It also shows that in 900 BC, Jewish scribes were quite good at writing fictional and/or embellished accounts.

    The descendants of the Scribes, continued the work of their predecessors. And their work seems to have taken another branch after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. Were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John descendents of these OT scribles? And Paul definitely had a “scribable influence” in his early years in Jerusalem. Seems plausible !!! Lets face it, the historical Jesus with his parables and embellished experiences provided a great basis for a better, more rationale religion. It just needed some upgrading to keep pace with Greek and Roman mythology.

    And as per National Geographic's Genographic project:
    https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/

    " DNA studies suggest that all humans today descend from a group of African ancestors who about 60,000 years ago began a remarkable journey. Follow the journey from them to you as written in your genes”.

    "Adam" is the common male ancestor of every living man. He lived in Africa some 60,000 years ago, which means that all humans lived in Africa at least at that time.

    Unlike his Biblical namesake, this Adam was not the only man alive in his era. Rather, he is unique because his descendents are the only ones to survive.

    It is important to note that Adam does not literally represent the first human. He is the coalescence point of all the genetic diversity."

    o More details from National Geographic's Genographic project: https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/

    "Our spe-cies is an African one: Africa is where we first ev-olved, and where we have spent the majority of our time on Earth. The earliest fos-sils of recognizably modern Ho-mo sapiens appear in the fossil record at Omo Kibish in Ethiopia, around 200,000 years ago. Although earlier fossils may be found over the coming years, this is our best understanding of when and approximately where we originated.

    According to the genetic and paleontological record, we only started to leave Africa between 60,000 and 70,000 years ago. What set this in motion is uncertain, but we think it has something to do with major climatic shifts that were happening around that time—a sudden cooling in the Earth’s climate driven by the onset of one of the worst parts of the last Ice Age. This cold snap would have made life difficult for our African ancestors, and the genetic evidence points to a sharp reduction in population size around this time. In fact, the human population likely dropped to fewer than 10,000. We were holding on by a thread.

    Once the climate started to improve, after 70,000 years ago, we came back from this near-extinction event. The population expanded, and some intrepid explorers ventured beyond Africa. The earliest people to colonize the Eurasian landma-ss likely did so across the Bab-al-Mandab Strait separating present-day Yemen from Djibouti. These early beachcombers expanded rapidly along the coast to India, and reached Southeast Asia and Australia by 50,000 years ago. The first great foray of our species beyond Africa had led us all the way across the globe."

    And for $199 and a DNA mouth swab:

    "Included in the markers we will test for is a subset that scientists have recently determined to be from our h-ominin cousins, Neanderthals and the newly discovered Denisovans, who split from our lineage around 500,000 years ago. As modern humans were first migrating out of Africa more than 60,000 years ago, Neanderthals and Denisovans were still alive and well in Eurasia. It seems that our ancestors met, leaving a small genetic trace of these ancient relatives in our DNA. With Geno 2.0, you will learn if you have any Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA in your genome."

    May 14, 2013 at 3:14 pm |
  18. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    Another way to keep humanity in hind darkness of hinduism, racism, of a hindu dark ages. Having nothing to do with truth absolute GOD, they use as a tool to keep hindu crooked business of religion flowing.

    May 14, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • STFU

      stop throwing your fart bombs Mohammad, PIG.

      May 14, 2013 at 2:55 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      Stop being a hindu secular, ignorant self centered, it is not, way of human, but of hindu animals, ignorant self centered by nature.

      May 14, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
    • STFU

      hey Mohammad, TSA just got a Saudi guy trying to smuggle a pressure cooker, he claimed US brand cookers weren't that great, I was wondering he meant from cooking or exploding point of view, any idea !!!

      May 14, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      It is very hind idiotic, stupid secular, self centered idea, thought from a very hindu idiotic secular, self centered mind of a hindu idiot, ignorant self centered brain. But hindus ignorant are good at it by following hinduism ignorance as their faith.

      May 14, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
    • meifumado

      Are human hearts Halal? Even if you say Allahu akbar during the butchering of said meats, is it ok?

      May 14, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      What a hindu ignorant question.

      May 14, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
    • STFU

      Mohammad, meifumado is asking a valid question, I just saw a CNN report where Sunni rebels were found eating a heart of Syrian soldier. I guess only Shia Syrian soldiers hearts are Halal !!

      Google it:

      'Sheer sav agery': Syrian rebel rips out soldier's heart, Human Rights Watch says
      NBCNews.com (blog) ‎- 9 hours ago
      A Syrian rebel commander has been caught on video cutting out the heart of a soldier and biting into it, Human Rights Watch said late Monday.

      May 14, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • meifumado

      The guy is a "rebel" commander of no small means, There are 20,000 fighters under him.

      May 14, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Maybe he felt he had a right to eat it. Who are you to judge? What, all of a sudden you like objective morality?

      May 14, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • meifumado

      I just want to know if it's Halal.

      May 14, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      Hindu secular, eating of infidel heart is Halal, truth absolute by GOD, lay ism, no one can eat just one.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
  19. STFU

    my MS-13 friends also failed to understand those Catholic hand signs.

    May 14, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • CommonSensed

      Those are mormon gang signs...

      May 14, 2013 at 6:06 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      It is the Dance of the Sugar-Plum Fairies using gestures, as anyone can plainly see. derp.

      May 14, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
    • Why Destroy religion NOW?

      Why?

      May 14, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      So sad to see the ignorant floundering in lies, tortured by lies, driven insane by lies.
      I guess I'll have to change my name. Religion is already being destroyed. I was just cheerleading a bit. No worries, mate.

      May 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm |
    • Why Destroy religion NOW?

      ?Why?

      May 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      LOL – great timing. You must be so full of.....great timing. Yeah.

      May 14, 2013 at 8:16 pm |
    • Why Destroy religion NOW?

      Who are you?

      May 14, 2013 at 8:17 pm |
    • Shadows

      What do you want?

      May 14, 2013 at 8:18 pm |
    • Lorien

      Do you have anything worth living for?

      May 14, 2013 at 8:20 pm |
    • Moishe Dyin

      Who are you people talking to?

      May 14, 2013 at 9:41 pm |
    • Destroy religion NOW

      So when will the religions die? SOON
      VERY SOON

      May 14, 2013 at 9:43 pm |
    • Entil'Zha

      Sorry, was hoping that a B5 fan would be in the mix.

      May 14, 2013 at 9:43 pm |
  20. Science

    Oh well in the beginning sounds to fishy !

    May 14, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
    • Dippy

      It's "too fishy." not "to fishy."

      May 14, 2013 at 7:04 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      dippy, do not be as secular hindu ism, no grammaer, truth absolute in GOD

      May 14, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
    • Science

      dippy........thanks

      Don't forget the se-x in the bedvroooooom ...........

      Asked faith about that on Cristians Be Nice and the sh-it hit the fan and pages went bye bye.

      and the sh-it hit the fan on the thread about the gay christian.......go figure !

      May 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm |
    • Science

      https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/29/my-take-if-you-hear-god-speak-audibly-you-usually-arent-crazy/comment-page-87/#comments

      May 14, 2013 at 8:20 pm |
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