May 22nd, 2013
05:05 PM ET

Brutal cleaver assault on man in London street is suspected terror attack

By Laura Smith-Spark, CNN

London (CNN) - A man thought to be a serving British soldier was killed by two armed men in a frenzied attack on a London street Wednesday, in what the government is treating as a suspected act of terrorism.

Witnesses told of a gruesome scene in which the man was hit by a car, then hacked with cleavers and his body dumped in the middle of the road in Woolwich, southeast London.

The two suspects in the killing were injured in a confrontation with police and have been taken to two hospitals, where they are being treated.

CNN affiliate ITN aired a video showing a man with bloody hands and holding a meat cleaver, who says, "We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you."

The man, who seems to have a London accent, carries on: "The only reasons we killed this man this is because Muslims are dying daily. This British soldier is an eye for an eye a tooth for tooth.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Europe • Islam • Terrorism • United Kingdom

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  1. Figures

    Never ceases to amaze at the lack of comments from you keyboard commando pu-ssies when true islam is revealed. The silence from you is deafening.

    May 26, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Oh, I'm sorry the world doesn't dance to the song of your choosing.

      Perhaps there aren't comments here that please you because this is no more "true islam" than the Westboro gang is the face of "true christianity".

      May 26, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • Figures

      t13, No. It's because islam is indefensible. Figures a sharia lover like yourself would step up to the plate, though.

      May 27, 2013 at 2:52 pm |
    • Shanon

      I agree with T13. If the anti-Christianity posts have done anything for my perspective they've served to make anti-Islam posts also seem less credible.

      May 28, 2013 at 9:14 am |
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    May 26, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
  3. EdL

    "We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you." And this is a Suspected terror attack? Please! This is as silly as wondering, deciding, if a murderer hated the person who was murdered. So this is not new, we are silly.

    May 26, 2013 at 11:54 am |
  4. Reality

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers, Flight 93 and the Pentagon?

    And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

    The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means.

    Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed.

    Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein.

    Until then, no Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

    May 26, 2013 at 7:54 am |
    • Red

      Yeah, and white people can be trusted right??NOT...

      May 26, 2013 at 10:04 pm |
    • Reality

      A summary for all faiths and skin colors:

      1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

      “New Torah For Modern Minds

      Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “
      Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

      2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.


      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:
      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      3. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, the Filipino “koranics”and the Boston Marthon bombers.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      4. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) – "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’."

      The caste/laborer system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

      Current problems:

      The caste system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence.

      5. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."

      "However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

      Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circu-mstances of his life. e.g. Buddha by one legend was supposedly talking when he came out of his mother's womb.

      Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations, embellishments, lies, and myths surrounding the founders and foundations of said rules of life.

      Then, apply the Five F rule: "First Find the Flaws, then Fix the Foundations". And finally there will be religious peace and religious awareness in the world!!!!!

      May 26, 2013 at 11:37 pm |
  5. Miss Chocolate Mom

    They needed Jesus:

    Luk 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

    May 26, 2013 at 1:22 am |
    • LinCA

      @Miss Chocolate Mom

      You said, "They needed Jesus"
      Like a fish needs a bicycle.

      May 26, 2013 at 1:26 am |
    • Jimmy G.

      Now someone should make one of those fish symbols riding a bike. Please send me royalties when you are rolling in dough.

      May 26, 2013 at 3:50 am |
    • Reality

      Did the historical Jesus utter a version of the Golden Rule? Luke 6:31 = Matt 7:12- no he did not according to the findings of many contemporary NT scholars.

      e.g Professor Gerd Luedemann [Jesus, 151f] notes the ancient and diverse attestation of this saying in antiquity, including its earliest occurrence in Herodotus III 142, 3:

      "I will not do that for which I censure my neighbors."

      From Ludemann's book, Jesus After 2000 Years, pp. 151-152, " In view of the widespread attestation of the Golden Rule in antiquity and its generality, it cannot be attributed to Jesus."

      See also: http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb033.html

      And because of the common sense nature of the Golden Rule, most humans to include myself follow said rule.

      May 26, 2013 at 7:56 am |
    • nclaw441

      I have not done any research about whether Jesus mentioned the Golden Rule during his ministry (but I note that no one purports to have kept a verbatim transcript of His teachings). The Gospels do mention Him saying "Love the lord God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and love your neighbor as yourself." (not exact quotes, of course)

      May 28, 2013 at 8:30 am |
    • Reality


      Please read again the previous comment.

      May 28, 2013 at 12:19 pm |
    • Jimmy G.

      The "golden rule" is badly written. It is merely a tropism to use when trying to prod someone into feeling empathy or sympathy or compassion, but can often be used for the opposite.
      It is how we view others that tends to determine, according to our state of mind, how we treat these others.
      Without empathy for whatever reason, the golden rule can lead to violence, hatred, or anything.
      To encourage introspection is only useful for those who find it easy. Some can't do it at all.
      You can't encourage empathic feelings in someone with a frontal lobe problem that blocks off that sort of stuff, no matter what words you use, laws you create, religion you follow, or anything.
      Mental illness and other cognitive disorders are the problem, not some damn rule nobody could follow even if they wanted to.

      May 29, 2013 at 2:08 am |
  6. mama k

    Bill Moyers interviews Daniel Dennett, an American philosopher, writer and cognitive scientist whose research centers on the philosophy of mind, science & biology. He is a professor of philosophy at Tufts University.
    Dennett: "[not all, but for many, the dangerous thing about religion is that] it gives people a gold-plated excuse to stop thinking."

    May 25, 2013 at 8:56 am |
    • R.M. Goodswell

      This guy and Sam Harris have a way with words.

      people like Daniel Dennett give you a glimpse of what might have been if reason had taken hold sooner.

      bittersweet for me.

      May 25, 2013 at 1:11 pm |
    • Science

      You know faith you are stuck in a big pile GREEN SLIME with NO horn-y red devil to save your ass.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |

      Agree ...............mama k............. everybody do a simple search for Prof. Higgs............the church hates that .

      A box does not work well for thinking.............think outside the box at http:/ted.com/talks


      Hey faith/chad... and sally too........Thanks have a great life.






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      May 25, 2013 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |

      May 25, 2013 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |

      Hey doogie you too !

      Hey Chad,faith the peach and all creationists what color JELL- O you stuck IN. ? Star Dusts (chondrites) and water !

      Scientists Offer First Definitive Proof of Bacteria-Feeding Behavior in Green Algae

      May 23, 2013 — A team of researchers has captured images of green alga consuming bacteria, offering a glimpse at how early organisms dating back more than 1 billion years may have acquired free-living photosynthetic cells. This acquisition is thought to have been a critical first step in the evolution of photosynthetic algae and land plants, which, in turn, contributed to the increase in oxygen levels in Earth's atmosphere and ocean and provided one of the conditions necessary for animal evolution.



      Game over .................god(s) did NOT create US !

      NO red horn-y devil either........ NEVER has been one.!

      The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !...Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the

      HELL out of the way.....................Stem Cell research !

      Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles

      May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.



      Better than Comedy GOLD................it is THE PEARLY GATES !.............what a JOKE !

      Heaven for atheists? Pope sparks debate

      By Dan Merica, CNN



      May 25, 2013 at 2:35 pm |
  7. amyhenson456

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    May 25, 2013 at 2:35 am |
  8. The New Normal

    You idiots probably think the man killed was just an "islamaphobe"! Idiots. It's not a phobia if it's REAL.

    May 24, 2013 at 9:51 pm |
    • The New Normal

      That's REAL blood on the demon-possessed muslim's hands. That's a REAL head laying on the sidewalk courtesy of the "religion of piece"(s). You people are REALLY stupid for embracing this EVIL called ISLAM.

      May 24, 2013 at 9:55 pm |
  9. The New Normal

    Again, virtually NO comments when the real islam rears its ugly head. The crescent news network's pet religion of islam is purely Satanic. This is coming to America. Islam is part of God's righteous judgment against a wicked nation.

    May 24, 2013 at 9:30 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      It is a Friday evening and a holiday weekend – most of these articles are quiet now.

      May 24, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      What about real Christianity. Let's see. Pro lifers killing abortion providers, Eric Rudolph using a bomb during the Atlanta Olympics, Westboro Baptist Church picketing funerals, F00LS constantly saying the world is going to end and accepting money for it and Mr. Senile himself, Pat Robertson okaying men cheating. Yep Christianity is grand.

      May 24, 2013 at 10:07 pm |
    • R.M. Goodswell

      two religious guys bravely ran down a lone guy with a car – probably to make sure they didn't get their asses handed to them- and then set about chopping him up with cleavers.

      the act I think left everyone speechless with the stupidity of it all.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:52 pm |
    • The New Normal

      Ken Margo, Stop trying to deflect and stick to the facts that this is ISLAM.

      May 25, 2013 at 3:47 pm |
  10. Miss Chocolate Mom

    Please everyone, teach your kids to be Christians instead.

    May 24, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      Yeah, That way they can picket funerals like the Westboro Baptist Church.

      May 24, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Why not teach them to think for themselves and when they get older they can choose based on facts not superstition.

      May 24, 2013 at 9:59 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Miss, do you think the only way to instill morality is to do so through the fear of divine retribution?

      if so, I'll bet you paddle your kids.

      May 24, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
  11. Angel Moronic

    Oh the great opium/meth that is monotheism

    May 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm |
  12. Why are comments "closed" on the Boy Scouts recent article?

    Why are comments "closed" on the Boy Scouts recent article?


    May 24, 2013 at 10:15 am |
  13. FPSC

    The Islamist ideology is on the march in the West, thanks to
    immigration and multiculturalism. It's time to slam the door shut on all new
    immigration from the 3rd world and deport all known Islamists regardless of
    their citizenship. Sorry, this is war and the future of our children and grandchildren
    is more important than the "rights" of our declared enemies.

    Note to devoted multiculturalists: spare us the usual crap
    about all religions having problems. You knew perfectly well what religion the
    perpetrators of this horror were as soon as you heard about it. What little
    terrorism there has been in the West that did not come from Islamists has
    largely been the work of Marxists. Trying to shift the focus to religion in
    general is basically running interference for the Islamists.

    May 23, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
  14. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    May 23, 2013 at 8:42 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      May 28, 2013 at 10:41 am |
    • Really?

      "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"

      That's why the data, has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie!

      May 28, 2013 at 10:50 am |
  15. Herb

    Time to declare war on Islam and launch all the pre-emptive nuclear strikes we can, starting with Mecca.
    When Muslims are all dead, then we can have a bit of a breather and maybe get a few things done.

    May 23, 2013 at 8:25 pm |
  16. Reality

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers, Flight 93 and the Pentagon?

    And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

    The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means.

    Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed.

    Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein.

    Until then, no Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

    http://www.muslimaccess.com/quraan/arabic/005.asp et al
    o "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
    "Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)

    "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

    "...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

    "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

    "It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)

    "If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

    "Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

    "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

    "Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)

    "'How shall I bear a child,' she [Mary] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?' 'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for Him...God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood..." (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)

    "Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)

    "Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)

    "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

    "Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)

    May 23, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
  17. Roger that

    Another example of when someone takes their world of make-believe a step too far.

    May 23, 2013 at 2:48 pm |

      No, it is an example of hindu secular ism, criminal self center ism, and he justifies his hinduism, terrorism with use of name of truth absolute GOD. Living example of it can be found in hindered gutter of hindu secular ism, criminal self center ism india by faith.

      May 23, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
    • Yeah Right

      like your PAKI-SATAN is full of saints and angels. Go to HELL you PAKI fart.

      May 23, 2013 at 6:43 pm |
    • Yeah Right

      above post was meant for ISLAMIC FOUNDATION, a crazy muslim from Pakistan

      May 23, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
  18. albertaguirre1

    Hooray again for the "Religion of Peace". Hypocrites.

    This world would be a better place without religion and the bronze aged thinking, bigotry and death it brings.

    May 23, 2013 at 2:02 pm |

      Islam is not hinduism corruption of truth absolute called religion, but consti tution of truth absolute, foundation of every consti tution on earth in a hindu , corrupted form, also known as law of nature, check your fact, before spewing your hinduism absurdties about Muslims and Islam.

      May 23, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
  19. CommonSensed

    Sigh. Opiate of the masses kills another one.

    May 23, 2013 at 1:30 pm |
  20. STFU

    Cave people learnt how to live with dinosaurs!!! Look indigenous people of the Amazon rainforests to maasai in African forests are living with all kinds of predators !!! it is time city folks like you and me learn how to live with and survive from these new predator species.

    May 23, 2013 at 11:40 am |
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