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May 22nd, 2013
08:34 AM ET

My take: Keep bad theology out of Oklahoma

Editor's Note: The Rev. Ian Punnett is the author of "How to Pray When You’re Pissed at God (Or Anyone Else For That Matter)" and a veteran talk show host. He has been married for 28 years and is the father of two college age boys.

By Ian Punnett, Special to CNN
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(CNN) - “God never gives us more than we can handle.”

God, have I learned to hate that cliche.

As a clergy person, as a hospital chaplain intern and as a father, I have come to believe that, at best, that platitude is a classic example of meaningless bumper-sticker theology. It's easily said and only makes sense when it goes by you so fast you don’t have time to think about it.

At worst, however, claiming that God scales a tragedy up or down depending on our ability to handle loss is as heartless as it is thoughtless.

In the deadly aftermath of the tornado that destroyed so much of Moore, Oklahoma, pain is only compounded by the implication that somehow the survivors are complicit in the death of a loved one because of their strength as a person. In this view, if God is only giving me what I can handle, then it would seem my boys would be a lot safer if I were weak.

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Anybody who has stood in the reception line at a child’s funeral likely has suffered through the repetition of this dubious claim and its equally insidious cousin, “God must have needed a new quarterback (or ballerina) up in heaven,” another expression that has hurt more people than it has healed.

Instead of simply saying, “I am so sorry this has happened” or “I am heartsick over what you are going through” or “This is just so wrong,” some mourners attempt to explain the unexplainable by forcing the world into the “Everything happens for a reason” paradigm. Bumper-sticker theology of this type reorders the universe less for the benefit of the grief-stricken and more for the benefit of the person offering it.

Because what could be reasonable about the death of a child? Deadly tornadoes can be understood scientifically, to be sure, but there is nothing reasonable about a tornado wiping out a school full of frightened children.

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A tornado is not the finger of God squashing us like bugs on a sidewalk. If weather were God’s instrument of justice and  tornado victims were singled out to reward the good or punish the bad, then meteorologists would be theologians.

In researching  my book "How to Pray When You’re Pissed at God (Or Anyone Else For That Matter)," I spoke with dozens of people who told me that they lost their ability to pray - at a time when they needed it most - when family and friends pressured them into believing that God took their loved one on purpose, and that they were supposed to feel good about it.

In Oklahoma the death toll is 24, and it's expected to rise. I believe that God stands innocently with all the victims. The difference between those who lived and those who died is not the difference between those who had more or less faith, but the random difference between those who turned left and those who turned right.

In our hearts, we might crave the order of a world where God never gives us more than we can handle, but ultimately platitudes are placebos. They only work some of the time and their effectiveness requires the buy-in of the recipient.

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If a bereaved parent finds peace in believing that God needed a little quarterback in heaven, far be it from me to challenge that perspective.

That said, in the face of tragedy, I believe that the faithful can best serve victims with sympathetic ears and warm hugs in what is called “a ministry of presence.” If they want to cry, cry with them. If they want to laugh and tell stories, smile through the pain, and if they want to yell “Why, God, why?” at heaven, then shake your fist too and leave the question unanswered for now.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Ian Punnett.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Opinion

soundoff (631 Responses)
  1. One one

    Interesting perspective from a "man of the cloth". I suspect he is on his way to becomming a non-believer if he is not already there. He actually thinks through the logical implications of religion related assertions.

    May 23, 2013 at 10:11 am |
  2. Ann

    Excellent article. Although I'm not religious, I understand that some do use their faith as a way to try to offer support. People need to realize, though, that these types of comments can hurt much more than they help (and my mom, a sincere believer, felt the same way when people offered her the "God-called-him/her-home" kinds of comments at family funerals).

    It's very hard to find the right words to comfort a grieving person - but please remember you don't have to offer an "answer" or find a way to take away their grief. That's impossible anyway. Just be there and let them know you care. It's okay to say, "I don't know what to say."

    May 23, 2013 at 9:47 am |
  3. faith

    Bible Clown©
    "Atheist philosophy is typically naturalism and materialistic. " That's a silly lie, like nearly everything else you posted there. We don't expect to go off and live in happy-land with our dead grannies when we die, so we treasure the things we have today. My wife and child mean more than my car and house, and my treasures are my friends and family and books and movies and things I've made. Maybe you need to read something about Existentialism, or maybe it would be over your head? At any rate, you might as well give up pretending atheism is a religion competing with your own church; you sound ignorant when you do that.

    atheism is a cult. it attracts simple minded spoiled brats with 2 much time on their hands. they r consumed with jealousy for the christians' god

    May 23, 2013 at 8:43 am |
    • Science

      Do you have any..............faith/chad?

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      How many years ago did we cross into North America ?.................faith chadie and Good news..........not

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      Evolution wins............No red devil either !

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      Apr. 18, 2013 — Researchers have designed a method that can universally test for evolutionary adaption, or positive (Darwinian) selection, in any chosen set of genes, using re-sequencing data such as that generated by the 1000 Genomes Project. The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124905.htm

      Oldest of the old.............the RCC ...........BedVrooooom.............and the red devil................not funny !

      Science books........videos.............trumps the 666.................beast.................or red horn-y thingy....does it

      NOT ........peachy ?.............but below IS..............please help .........thank you.

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      Again Chadie................SPLAT = E mc2...............(U-Pb)...........dating process for link below

      http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00461/uraninite.htm

      And a little carbon – 14 from chondrites..............and water =

      WHAM-O........horn-y planet and life.

      Mom and DAD............did it faith !

      Peace

      May 23, 2013 at 9:09 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      "atheism is a cult. it attracts simple minded spoiled brats with 2 much time on their hands. they r consumed with jealousy for the christians' god"
      See, that's just a silly lie. Saying "atheism is a cult" doesn't make it true. Do you expect your god to be pleased when you break His Commandments like that? I'm anything but simple-minded, and you are the one being bratty. God doesn't seem to have done you much good, whiner.

      May 23, 2013 at 10:49 am |
  4. nclaw441

    "God, have I learned to hate that cliche." That sentence early in the article bothers me, as it comes from a clergyman. Unless it was some sort of prayer, this use of God's name is inappropriate. I will now go and read the rest of the article, by it is tainted by this.

    [For you who are not believers, I don't expect you to understand the above, or to appreciate it.]

    May 23, 2013 at 7:52 am |
    • Science

      Hey faith..................the peach........... did you learn or hear from that Discovery show about the LAND BRIDGE ?

      How many years ago did we cross into North America ?.................faith chadie , Good news .and nclaw441...topher too

      Free learning videos go viral

      By Salman Khan, Special to CNN

      http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/24/khan.video.learning/index.html

      The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !...Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the

      HELL out of the way.....................Stem Cell research !

      Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles

      May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521152638.htm

      http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDtalksDirector

      Evolution wins............No red devil either !

      Evolving Genes Lead to Evolving Genes: Selection in European Populations of Genes Regulated by FOXP2

      Apr. 18, 2013 — Researchers have designed a method that can universally test for evolutionary adaption, or positive (Darwinian) selection, in any chosen set of genes, using re-sequencing data such as that generated by the 1000 Genomes Project. The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124905.htm

      Oldest of the old.............the RCC ...........BedVrooooom.............and the red devil................not funny !

      Science books........videos.............trumps the 666.................beast.................or red horn-y thingy....does it

      NOT ........peachy ?

      May 21, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |

      Peace

      May 23, 2013 at 8:04 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      " I will now go and read the rest of the article, by it is tainted by this. " I'm imagining Dana Carvey as the Church Lady reading this. Could it be . . . SATAN???

      May 23, 2013 at 11:20 am |
  5. TheRationale

    Bad theology is any theology which asserts that there's some loving, powerful God out there who somehow found justification for not doing anything about this tragedy (much less all the others around the world).

    Good theology is no theology.

    May 22, 2013 at 11:52 pm |
    • Neal Dakota

      There is no such thing as no theology. Since everyone has some understanding of a god, or lack there of, everyone has a theology.

      May 23, 2013 at 9:16 am |
  6. Joel

    Who is this idiot "chaplain"? This is not a cliche, but rather actual scripture! Maybe he should read more and write less.

    May 22, 2013 at 10:55 pm |
    • Jena

      It is not scripture. Just try to find the verse. It's not there. I'm sorry, but he is right, and you are only backing a bad cliche that has no basis in fact.

      May 23, 2013 at 12:33 am |
    • nclaw441

      I don't disagree with the writer's point, but I think these kinds of statements are more often made because we often don't know what to say in response to disasters like this. I like to think that I am fairly good at expressing myself, but when I attend a funeral visitation I find it hard to get out much more than "I am sorry" or "He was such a good man" or "What can I do to help you?" Faced with someone who needs comfort, in our attempts to provide it we often say things that are not well thought out.

      May 23, 2013 at 7:57 am |
  7. Reality

    Taking god down a notch helps (if you happen to believe is such deity inanity):

    In Church: The Human Story of God, Schillebeeckx says, "Therefore the historical future is not known even to God; otherwise we and our history would be merely a puppet show in which God holds the strings. For God, too, history is an adventure, an open history for and of men and women."

    Bottom line: One of God's greatest gifts to us is that of the Future.

    Schillebeeckx was responding to the Dutch citizens who were blaming God for the North Sea storms that destroyed a significant number of levees resulting in a significant loss of life and severe storm damage. Sound familiar??

    May 22, 2013 at 10:09 pm |
    • nclaw441

      I believe that the concept of free will does not "take God down a notch." I believe that God made us with free will in a challenging world, so that we would be able to turn to Him and rely on him in difficult times and to thank and praise Him in good times.

      The alternative, a world where all beings robotically worship Him reminds me of parents who try to demand that their children love them, rather than to try to merit the love children naturally want to have for their parents.

      May 23, 2013 at 8:02 am |
    • Reality

      nclaw441,

      And thanks for reiterating the thoughts of Father Edward Schillebeeckx, one of the great contemporary Christian theologians who concluded that your god and his is not omniscient.

      May 23, 2013 at 9:27 am |
  8. praymorenow

    Punnett of Art Bell overnight Coast to Coast? OK. Got it.

    How about we all just extend a helping hand to our fellow citizens in need of help....and yes, a prayer, a shoulder to cry on, a few dollars in the mail or online to assist, plain old good thoughts & wishes for the people of OK....it can't hurt. I choose to pray a lot, and rely on that old cliché filled book a lot more, not less, in these days. If you think that's silly or a crutch or some form of mindgames, ok, knock yourself out.

    I'll pray for you anyway.
    And toss a check in the mail to the Red Cross & Samaritan's Purse.

    Stand together OK, you've done it before, you'll do it again.

    I do appreciate the fine 'all theology', 'all religion', 'all people who adhere to peaceful faith'....are misguided, dolts, wrong, salvo tossing excusers, whatever.....nice.

    It isn't called Tornado Alley for nothing. Just as California is struck w/ earthquakes and fires, some places w/ hurricanes and heatwaves, other places w/ regular flooding and storms....OK knows it is part of a regular, and deadly tornado location. It was either Global Warming or Global Cooling, all science or no science, happenstance or not. I have no idea. Just as we have no real idea why Bad Things Happen To Good People....

    May 22, 2013 at 9:55 pm |
  9. lionlylamb

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1IAhDGYlpqY

    May 22, 2013 at 7:32 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      Son of blessed Mary Easu, anointed one, Pbh, never mentioned word religion, because it was not in his language, but Theen e Elohim, consti tution of truth absolute, GOD, THE CONSTANT, or the way of truth absolute, GOD. he had nothing to do with religion created after him, or on his name.

      May 22, 2013 at 7:57 pm |
  10. lionlylamb

    The "Celled-in Time Continuums" are vortices of inner toward outer spatial relationships whose relativities coagulate and congeal in spasms of equatorial longevity. Our bodies are a singular cosmic universe of atomized cosmologies within cellular relationships of passionate magnetisms!

    May 22, 2013 at 7:05 pm |
  11. Mufaso

    It would seem that if God is not to blame, then he is not omnipotent. If he had the power to stop a tornado and didn't, that would make him a murderer. According to the Christians, Muslims, and Jews God is omnipresence, omnipotent, and omniscience. If he cannot or will not stop needless deaths, then he is not worthy of worship. Perhaps the only real answer to life's sufferings is that there is no supreme being, no God. The universe is chaotic; there is no order. Everything exists by chance, not design.

    May 22, 2013 at 6:58 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      No need to lay it on truth absolute GOD, HE gave human authority over matter, and gave them mind to realize, right from wrong. People must have known about weather condition in area, and built basements to protect themselves. It is not fault of truth absolute GOD, but negligence by human, cause of mayhem. Or keep it laying on truth absolute GOD, just like a hindu lazy in his hindu secular ism, ignorant self center ism, accusing every one else for his failures.

      May 22, 2013 at 7:06 pm |
    • CatLover

      Actually, the concept of God as 'omnipotent and omniscient' is not scripturally supportable. Though many Christians buy into the idea, it's steeped in shallow thinking an shallower biblical understanding. Typical Sunday school pap. You might consider researching that a bit more. May I suggest this essay by T.J Oord as a starting point? http://thomasjayoord.com/index.php/blog/archives/plantinga_divine_action_and_free_will/#.UZ1hHW2cHBI

      May 22, 2013 at 8:23 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh

      May 22, 2013 at 8:53 pm |
    • nclaw441

      Perhaps, being human, we cannot fully understand the nature of God. Perhaps our concept of omnipotence and omniscience are not well-developed. Could not God, in His omnipotence, create man with free will, such that even God cannot know what choices he will make? (sort of like the old "Can God make a rock so heavy that He Himself cannot lift it?" question) Could God not have made a world that provides life through plants and animals that we consume, but also has weather and other properties that can harm or even kill us?

      It has long been, and continues to be, our human view that we are the center of the universe. Scientists who first suggested that the earth revolved around the sun were ridiculed and worse. We humans are in the world, but we are not the purpose for which the world was created. My own view is that we are here to find, love and worship God, and to show that love to others. But that is my faith. You are free to believe otherwise, as God intended (again, my faith).

      May 23, 2013 at 8:12 am |
    • Neal Dakota

      Ah, yes. The classic attack against Christianity to which there can be no response:
      1)God is all-good.
      2)God is all-powerful
      (There is yet no contradiction in these statements)
      3) Evil exists.

      Surely such a God listed in the first two points cannot exist due to the problem of evil. Unless...
      4) There is a sufficient and moral reason for why evil is allowed to exist.

      "But I could never believe in such a God! My god would never..." That is fine. You will also never be challenged, convicted, or disagree with your god either, as he only exists in your mind.

      May 23, 2013 at 9:25 am |
    • sam stone

      "Perhaps, being human, we cannot fully understand the nature of God. "

      ...But we preach about it anyway

      May 23, 2013 at 10:01 am |
    • penelope sims

      Technically, since you don't have full scope of time (the future) you cannot actually say their deaths were needless. Their deaths could somehow prevent a future disaster like this form happening. Unlikely, but not entirely impossible.

      May 24, 2013 at 12:47 pm |
  12. Gerri

    The "you did not have enough faith" line that contemporary Christians burp out at their non-denominational churches is the biggest reason I dispise them. Feel good nonsense from people like Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn, and Pat Robertson is all crap.

    May 22, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      "He" who is most repet-i-tive is of the least practiced.

      May 22, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
    • science

      Hey LL...............you and chadie are really stuck in taht JELL-O !.........what is the first word LL ?

      Evolving Genes Lead to Evolving Genes: Selection in European Populations of Genes Regulated by FOXP2

      Apr. 18, 2013 — Researchers have designed a method that can universally test for evolutionary adaption, or positive (Darwinian) selection, in any chosen set of genes, using re-sequencing data such as that generated by the 1000 Genomes Project. The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124905.htm

      Peace

      Oldest of the old.............the RCC ...........BedVrooooom.............and the red devil................not funny !

      May 22, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      science,

      Our visual depth perceptions into the very vastness of 'inner space' are veiled over by forced fields of multiple omni-geodesic proportionalities.

      May 22, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
  13. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    , It is crime to be Black by color, Slaves by hindu secular ism, criminal self center ism, foundation of hinduism, racism.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9OasgbYIac

    May 22, 2013 at 5:58 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      Oh, shut up. You are the most annoying lunatic on these boards, and all anyone can understand is that you are a schizophrenic man who hates Hindus. Put a sock in it and get a life.

      May 23, 2013 at 10:55 am |
  14. lionlylamb

    Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh

    May 22, 2013 at 5:57 pm |
    • evolvedDNA

      LL I do not recall Phil Collins singing that !

      May 22, 2013 at 8:23 pm |
  15. shem

    "God never gives us more than we can handle. God must have needed a new quarterback (or ballerina) up in heaven,”

    are not biblical sayings and should be embarrassing for Christians as it shows your lack of knowledge of Scripture.
    Why do bad things happen to good people? Who are we to answer or even to ask such a question?

    We are broken people in a broken world- that is why we need a Savior. Repent, before you all perish!

    May 22, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • Gerri

      This crap is directly from the ignorant non-denominational churches which are almost always nothing more than personality cults run by some self-appointed con artist who tells is flock, while fleecing them monitarily, that he or she alone has the ear of God. The people who attend these places usually have no religous or history education so they believe that the Christian faith started when Joel Osteen started broadcasting and that the King James Bible, written in the early 1600s, is the only voice of God. They are blissfully ignorant of the history of the Christian faith.

      May 22, 2013 at 6:23 pm |
    • nclaw441

      These kinds of statements often come from people trying to provide comfort to those they love. Yes, they get it wrong, but they should not be condemned for trying to show compassion.

      May 23, 2013 at 8:16 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      "We are broken people in a broken world-" Speak for yourself. I've never broken and rarely bent. I'm the same man I've always been, and I keep getting better and learning new things every day. Take some vitamins or something. Cheer up. Stop watching FOX news before they drive you to suicide. It's actually a great world.

      May 23, 2013 at 10:59 am |
  16. anothermuse

    I like the article and authors point of view. It's refreshing and is a good reminder that the religious community is as diverse in thought as the secular community. I find the author to be refreshing is his pragmatism.

    May 22, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
    • Jena

      Read the words of the Dalai Lama i. He is wise, compassionate, and does not believe in religious dogma. I have never read or heard him speak anything but the greatest of truths. He's practical, sensible, and his joy of life is contagious. This man actually cares about all of us. I've never believed that of any spiritual leader, ever. He has no agenda. He neither hates, nor wishes harm on anyone. He's truly the embodiment of all things good about spirituality. I say this as an atheist, who was brought up in the Southern Baptist Church. I am not a Buddhist. I just try to learn from wise people.

      May 23, 2013 at 12:42 am |
  17. Herb

    Well, that was a stupid article.
    "I believe that God stands innocently with all the victims."
    Oh, so your god is a victim, too?
    Please see a mental health professional and stop writing worthless dreck.

    May 22, 2013 at 5:35 pm |
    • flar

      why would that make god a victim?

      May 22, 2013 at 10:01 pm |
  18. KJ

    And remember that people are usually well intentioned...they may not say the right thing or in a beautiful manner..but they care so don't be so quick to bash them....

    May 22, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • ed dugan

      ALL theology is bad,some worse than others. Praying into empty air is a sure sign of an IQ smaller than the persons hat size. Religion, the most corrupting influence in the universe, is just a way to keep from thinking for yourself. They blather on about god giving them free will and then get down on their knees and ask the same god to correct their mistakes.The tornado was cause by the nature that god supposedly created so blame him for your problems.

      May 22, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      ed dugan,

      Theologies yes are bad 'representations' of Godliness. The KJVB even agrees. So then, what's the big deal regarding the misrepresentations if they were meant in good measures of faithfulness?

      May 22, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • evolvedDNA

      LL there is nothing wrong with theology until you believe it to be be based on reality .

      May 22, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
    • Jena

      He isn't bashing anyone. He's trying to educate people about how to handle other people's grief. When I was told I had only so much time left to live, people kept saying to me, "Anyone can get hit be a bus at anytime." They meant well, but it crushed me. It felt like they were diminishing my situation and saying everyone else was going to die, so what was the big deal about my death. I finally told them how much their words hurt. At first they didn't understand why. It took me explaining over and over that knowing you have limited time and will die from a particular disease is not the same as knowing that one day in the unknown future you are going to die. Grief is not something we do well in this society. It's uncomfortable. We need to be educated in this very important social interaction.

      May 23, 2013 at 12:58 am |
  19. CNN is trolling religion now...

    Whether you believe in God, some other deity or not, it's personal. At a time like this, no one should be judging anyone on beliefs especially when people have lost everything. CNN you guys should be ashamed of yourselves for posting this for ratings.

    Charlatans!

    May 22, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
    • Jena

      Huh? Your response does not fit this article at all. The author is trying to educate people on how to help others through their grief. It's an excellent article, I wish everyone would read it. He knows what he's talking about.

      May 23, 2013 at 1:01 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      The article says people should watch what they say to the bereaved. I bet a nickel you skipped right past it to post your drivel. Troll.

      May 23, 2013 at 11:02 am |
  20. Ron

    Well said Reverand. Well said.

    May 22, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
    • Philip Drugge

      Hi Ron,

      As a clergyman, I would hope that you have thought of this. God created the world. That's what it says in the Good Book. Now I think he created it with its good and bad parts. It's sort of, here's the world. Live with it. It's not perfect. Why should I create a perfect world for you? You and I would never learn anything. If there is an earthquake, you must learn to deal with them or at least be prepared. If there isa tornado or hurricane, learn to deal with them too. Whatever troubles "Mother Nature" throws at you, learn to deal with them. We were created by God and I honestly don't think he made us perfect. We may be created His likeness, but not not so much that we all look or think like him. If I were Him, I would want people who can learn to take care of themselves. Even the people in Oklahoma know they should have shelters. Why don't they? Is God supposed to build them for us? I don't think so. If the planet He gave us causes us trouble, we have to adapt. I'm positive that throughout our universe there are other planets, some similar, some different, created by God and having their own problems and God says, well, I gave you a brain, use it.

      May 22, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
    • evolvedDNA

      Ron.. The earth is indifferent to life.. any life. We evolved on it and are part of its processes good or bad. Belief in any creator is irrelevant to planet earth, but may help you acquiesce to the fact we will not get out of here alive. I hardly think that "mother" is a correct term for nature given the actions that get displayed....maybe the wicked aunt.

      May 22, 2013 at 8:19 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      " Now I think he created it with its good and bad parts." It's always good to just insert your own theories into Scripture. Never mind what it says, I THINK it means God used an iPhone to create us.

      May 23, 2013 at 11:04 am |
    • Which God?

      No, Bible Clown, he used a 3-D printer. I-Phones are so passe.

      May 23, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
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The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.