Heaven for atheists? Pope sparks debate
Pope Francis greets the faithful as he leaves St. Peter's Square at the end of his weekly audience April 10 at the Vatican.
May 23rd, 2013
03:59 PM ET

Heaven for atheists? Pope sparks debate

By Dan Merica, CNN
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(CNN) -– American atheists welcomed Pope Francis’ comments that God redeems nonbelievers, saying that the new pontiff's historic outreach is helping to topple longstanding barriers.

“The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone,” the pope told worshipers at morning Mass on Wednesday. “‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!”

Francis continued, “We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

Roy Speckhardt, executive director of the American Humanist Association, said that although he has been skeptical of Francis' outreach to the nonreligious, he welcomed Wednesday’s comments.

“I gather from this statement that his view of the world's religious and philosophical diversity is expanding,” Speckhardt said. “While humanists have been saying for years that one can be good without a god, hearing this from the leader of the Catholic Church is quite heartening."

He continued, “If other religious leaders join him, it could do much to reduce the automatic distrust and discrimination that atheists, humanists, and other nontheists so regularly face. “

Francis’ comments received a great deal of attention on social media, with a number of people asking whether the Catholic leader believes that atheists and agnostics go to heaven, too.

On Thursday, the Vatican issued an “explanatory note on the meaning to ‘salvation.'"

The Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Vatican spokesman, said that people who aware of the Catholic church “cannot be saved” if they “refuse to enter her or remain in her.”

At the same time, Rosica writes, “every man or woman, whatever their situation, can be saved. Even non-Christians can respond to this saving action of the Spirit. No person is excluded from salvation simply because of so-called original sin.”

Rosica also said that Francis had “no intention of provoking a theological debate on the nature of salvation,” during his homily on Wednesday.

Although the pope's comments about salvation surprised some, bishops and experts in Catholicism say Francis was expressing a core tenet of the faith.

"Francis was clear that whatever graces are offered to atheists (such that they may be saved) are from Christ," the Rev. John Zuhlsdorf, a conservative Catholic priest, wrote on his blog.

"He was clear that salvation is only through Christ’s Sacrifice.  In other words, he is not suggesting – and I think some are taking it this way – that you can be saved, get to heaven, without Christ."

Chad Pecknold, an assistant professor of theology at the Catholic University of America, agreed with Zuhlsdorf, pointing out that the pope’s comments came on the Feast of Saint Rita, the Catholic patron saint of impossible things.

“The remarks about atheists show that there is even a saint for atheists,” Pecknold said. “Including all of humanity, on this day especially, remarks like that are almost called for.”

“To stress that the gospel redeems all people, including atheists, is the teaching of the church,” he added. “This is an objective fact that the church believes.”

Greg Epstein, the humanist chaplain at Harvard University, said Francis' comments reflect “the interfaith and inter-community work many of us nontheists are dedicated to.”

That said, Epstein hopes that lay Catholics are listening.

“I hope Catholics, and all people hearing the pope's statement, will recognize that his words about atheists need to symbolize much more than just a curiosity or an exception to the rule,” Epstein said. “If someone thinks there are only a few atheists out there doing good just like Catholics do, that's a major misunderstanding that can lead to prejudice and discrimination.”

The pope’s comments come a few months after he told worshipers that Catholics should be close to all men and women, including those who don’t belong to any religious tradition.

"In this we feel the closeness also of those men and women who, while not belonging to any religious tradition, feel, however the need to search for the truth, the goodness and the beauty of God, and who are our precious allies in efforts to defend the dignity of man, in the building of a peaceful coexistence between peoples and in the careful protection of creation,” Francis said shortly after his election as pope in March.

Even atheists like David Silverman, president of American Atheists, who has had an antagonistic relationship with the Catholic church, welcomed the pope’s remarks.

“While the concept of Jesus dying for atheists is wrong on many levels (especially given that Jesus himself promised hell for blasphemers), I can appreciate the pope's `good faith' effort to include atheists in the moral discussion,” Silverman said.

“Atheists on the whole want no part in Catholicism, of course, but we are all interested in basic human rights.”

- Dan Merica

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soundoff (3,731 Responses)
  1. nic

    The Word of God says: none of us deserve eternal life, we are all sinners and have come short of the Glory of God. Salvation only comes through the Blood of Jesus Christ..
    We people must know we serve a HOLY GOD!
    Repentance is a daily action.
    How can you say you have adopted Christ as your Lord but your actions dont show any of this?? The Holy Spirit is not at work in your life, repent and believe..!
    There was a dear price paid for your salvation on the cross of Calvary 2013 years ago. If you dont believe this, i pray that the Holy Spirit will turn your heart and that you would believe...
    And God passes judgement, not man.

    May 25, 2013 at 3:01 am |
    • GodFreeNow

      Please keep praying for me. It will keep you at home on your knees and stop you from going out and performing an action of consequence.

      May 25, 2013 at 3:14 am |
    • Seb

      I'm confused. Who should we believe now? The supposed word of God from the old days? Or the word of Jesus' representative on earth todate? Maybe God changed his mind and lets us know via this mysterious way? Please help me out nic.

      May 25, 2013 at 3:50 am |
  2. LIGHT

    For those athiests read this:

    Why you dont believe in your God?

    Because you did not see him?

    Actually the problem is in your hearts not in your minds,the problem is that you hate your god and dont want to accept that him.
    You are looking for evidences meanwhile everything surrounding you is an evidence.

    Why you belive that every thing must has a maker but you dont believe the same about yourself?

    Ask yourselvies from where we came?From where came the Earth?From where came everything?

    What is unlimitted power controlling the univirse with " 0" mistakes?

    What is your evidence that your third or fourth grand father was there? Did you see or hear him? Of course not.

    So how do you believe that he was there?

    In fact it is the logic of things which leads us to know for sure that he was there.

    As we can see or hear for a limit range,and outside that range we can not see or hear,the same thing is with our brains That it can not think after a specific rang .

    Our God is after that rang of thinking,becuase he is unlimitted and our brains are limitted.logic and math saying that the limitted can not contains the unlimitted.

    Even the limitted unvirse we live in we can not imagine how very huge is it,and we want to see or imagine the God?

    Llogic says it is not pssible that the majority of the people on the face of Earth are wrong in worshipping the God.

    Logic says if there is something has no existence we dont have to belive or deny it because of a very simple reason that it has no existence so there no need to belive or deny it.

    But if something has a real existence some of us will believe in it and some others will not believe depinding on what exactly
    we want i mean if we want to belive or not.but the real fact is that thing is there.

    May 25, 2013 at 2:49 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      I believe there is nothing to hate and nothing to accept as far as a God goes, at least what most people mean by God. I think this is a fairly common belief. Hope that clears things up for you a bit.

      May 25, 2013 at 2:55 am |
    • Phil

      What an ignorant little man you are. lol

      May 25, 2013 at 3:00 am |
    • LinCA


      I don't believe in your god for the same reason you don't believe in the Tooth Fairy.

      May 25, 2013 at 3:06 am |
    • LIGHT

      What about the Prophets?

      They told us with details about what will happen in the end of time that we can see now.

      Try to use your brain in thinking not your tongues.

      May 25, 2013 at 3:19 am |
    • LinCA


      You said, "What about the Prophets?
      They told us with details about what will happen in the end of time that we can see now.
      Christians have been predicting the end times for 2000 years. It's all bullshit. All you do is selectively project current events on your preconceived notions. You are being led by the nose and kept in fear. You are the epitome of "sheeple".

      May 25, 2013 at 10:32 am |
  3. amyhenson456

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    May 25, 2013 at 2:35 am |
  4. Beam_Me_Up_Scotty


    That is all.

    May 25, 2013 at 2:02 am |
  5. faith

    Another argument that Ms. Murdock uses is that if Josephus truly knew about Jesus he would have written more about him,

    Josephus goes into long detail about the lives of numerous personages of relatively little import, including several Jesuses. It is inconceivable that he would devote only a few sentences to someone even remotely resembling the character found in the New Testament.

    May 25, 2013 at 1:33 am |
    • faith

      If Josephus had thought so highly of an historical Jesus, he surely would have written more extensively about him. Yet, he does not.

      May 25, 2013 at 1:38 am |
    • faith

      This argument proves nothing except that Acharya S has likely not read a lot of Josephus’ works

      May 25, 2013 at 1:38 am |
    • Billy

      Josephus is a mere hearsay "historian". Also, his writings show evidence of tampering. Look it up.

      May 25, 2013 at 8:25 am |
  6. Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohaim

    Bill Moyers interviews Daniel Dennett

    Dennett: "[not for all, but for many, the dangerous thing about religion is that] it gives people a gold-plated excuse to stop thinking."

    (Think about that while you read the newer article on the infant death.)

    May 25, 2013 at 12:27 am |
    • anti-nothing

      He thinks nothing made everything, and wrote about it. (snicker)

      May 25, 2013 at 1:47 am |
    • Billy

      @anti-nothing: that is not what this video is about at all; is stupidity something you work at hard or does it come naturally?

      May 25, 2013 at 8:23 am |
  7. Jorge

    If atheist will go to heaven then
    who will go to hell?

    May 24, 2013 at 11:52 pm |
    • Athy

      Hopefully the religies will go to hell. I don't want to share heaven with those nitwits.

      May 24, 2013 at 11:58 pm |
  8. Wayfaring Stranger

    I am not sure many people, atheists or theist, spend a lot of time pondering weather a soul or a creator exists. Usually it is just a little time on Sunday and then forgotten The atheist is not an expert on the subject and neither is the theist. Neither can really be sure of their beliefs. If there is a God he surly in the end will take back to him all the pieces of himself. The soul will not remain entangled with this physical universe forever (karma) , it will eventually become lonely and homesick for its source.

    May 24, 2013 at 11:49 pm |
    • Athy

      I'm takin' my soul with me when I go. I've gotten so I like him. He's like a part of me. He keeps me honest.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:03 am |
    • Wayfaring Stranger

      But perhaps it is the soul that takes the mind and body with it as it goes thru endless cycles of birth and rebirth to satisfy the gods that enforce the laws of cause and effect.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:31 am |
    • GodFreeNow

      Well, I don't wonder about a soul and whether it exists personally. I do know that consciousness is a real thing. I start from there and work my way outward. I am. When I am unconscious, I ceases to be. Likely, this is originally what people considered the soul.

      I would also like to point out what I see as a logic flaw in the god concept you presented. It was beautiful by the way, but if god were to collect back to himself all of the pieces of himself, that would mean that I, along with everything else is god. There for god is all, but then would also be nothing. This renders the whole concept of god to be far less meaningful than the individual parts—in other words, "I". You see, there would no longer be a point of perspective to deify anything if everything was god. Just a thought.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:34 am |
    • Wayfaring Stranger

      Why did we forget our divine origin – being sparks of the divine. Having that knowledge might ruin a plan. The separation – the forgetfulness – remembering and the going back in ecstatic spiritual love. Union

      May 25, 2013 at 1:01 am |
  9. Gay Marriage News

    Congrats to the world's first openly gay bishop of the Anglican Communion – Gene Robinson for his work toward gay marriage equality. Robinson, an adviser to President Obama on gay marriage, is visiting Australia and has urged Prime Minister Julia Gillard to support gay marriage and help end suicide by gay teenagers.

    Also, in Australia, former PM Kevin Rudd has had a change of heart on the issue since 2012 and is calling for holdout politicians to change their minds on the issue ahead of a June 6 vote in Parliament.
    Congrats to Britain's House of Commons which has passed a bill to legalize same-se-x marriage in England and Wales. The legislation, backed by Prime Minister David Cameron, passed by a vote of 366 to 161 on Tuesday. Next up the House of Lords.

    Congrats to Colorado which began legal civil unions May 1st, and seem ready for an upgrade! Now some 51% favor gay marriage there.
    Congrats to Former President Bill Clinton on Tuesday for throwing his support behind legislation that could soon legalize same-se-x marriage in Illinois.

    Congrats to Nevada — A consti-tutional amendment that would let voters decide whether to legalize gay marriage passed the final hurdle of the 2013 legislative session Thursday with a 27-14 vote to bring it to the ballot by 2016.

    Congrats to France! France's President Francois Hollande has signed into law a bill legalizing same-se-x marriage and making France the fifteenth country to do so.

    Congrats to Brazil on becoming the third and largest Latin American country to fully legalize same-sex marriage, the same day that Minnesota legalized gay marriage. Previously, only some jurisdictions allowed same-sex marriage. In a bold move for the majority Roman Catholic nation, Brazil's National Council of Justice ruled that all Brazilian notary publics must register same-sex civil unions as marriages if the couple requests it. (Same-sex civil unions were already recognized country-wide in Brazil since 2011.)

    Brazil, host of the 2014 World Cup and 2016 Summer Olympics, is one of the fastest-growing major economies in the world. It is currently the second largest economy in the western hemisphere, has a total area slightly larger than the continental United States, is home to ~200 million people, and is also the most bio-diverse country on the planet.
    Also congrats to Mexico for paving the way for gay couples to wed there. Gay marriage is already legal in Mexico City, however, the Miami Herald recently reported that "A unanimous ruling by the Mexican Supreme Court overturning a state law against same-se-x marriage has opened the way for the eventual legalization of gay marriage across Mexico, legal experts say. The court ruled unconsti-tutional a law in southern Oaxaca state that defines marriage as a legal union between a man and a woman."

    Congrats to the people of Finland who are clamoring for their Parliament to hurry up and pass a same-se-x marriage law. They are the only remaining Nordic country that has yet to do so.

    May 24, 2013 at 11:46 pm |
    • Gay Marriage Watch

      Same-se-x marriage in the U.S.:

      Done deal: Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington & the District of Columbia.

      Who's next?
      Illinois: Gov. Pat Quinn called on the Illinois House to send him legislation to legalize gay marriage, saying lawmakers had plenty of time to make up their mind on the issue. The state Senate passed the measure on Valentine's Day, and the governor has said he's ready to sign it.

      New Jersey: Gov. Christie doesn't seem to be against gay marriage coming from a ballot measure, but has stated in the past he would veto such a change from legislators. This was his stance before the President changed his views. If Christie reconsiders, NJ could be sooner than expected.

      California: It seems gay marriage will be in CA soon one way or the other. This is because polls show a much larger support for gay marriage than when Prop 8 was passed. So even if the upcoming SCOTUS case were to fail, it would likely be put to voters there very soon again.

      Nevada: A consti-tutional amendment that would let voters decide whether to legalize gay marriage passed the final hurdle of the 2013 legislative session Thursday with a 27-14 vote to bring it to the ballot by 2016.
      Hawaii: Already has some good laws on the books evidently, and although things have been put on hold until after 2013, legislators there are attempting to speed up the process.

      Virginia: A new Washington Post poll reported Tuesday, 5/14/13 shows, for the question, "Do you think it should be legal or illegal for gay couples to get married?", 56% of Virginians answered legal – an increase of ten percent on the same question and answer from the same poll two years ago. The state, birthplace to eight U.S. presidents is adjacent to Maryland and the District of Columbia where same-se-x marriage is already legal.

      Arizona: A new Rocky Mountain poll shows 55% of Arizona residents now support gay marriage.
      Let's see around the globe:

      Done deal: Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, & Uruguay, & Mexico City.

      In the works:

      Germany: On 22 March 2013 the Bundesrat passed an initiative to open marriage to same-se-x couples, which now moves onto the Bundestag for approval.

      Ireland: On 14 April 2013 as part of the Consti tutional Convention a measure voted in favour of same-se-x marriage by a margin of 79 percent.

      UK: On 5 February 2013, the House of Commons debated the Marriage (Same Se-x Couples) Bill and approved it in a 400–175 vote at the second reading. (Third reading to be scheduled.) UPDATE: House of Commons passed bill! Now on to the Lords.

      Finland: 03-19-2013: The citizens' initiative overrides the committee's decision, and thus the bill must now be considered by the Parliament.

      Luxembourg: On 6 February 2013, the Chamber's justice committee agreed to approve the measure opening marriage for same-se-x couples. On 20 February, the committee initially backed the right to simple adoption for same-se-x couples. On 6 March 2013, the committee confirmed that position.

      Australia: lower house MP will seek to have his Marriage Equality Amendment Bill brought for an immediate vote in the House on June 6.

      Mexico (UPDATE): Gay marriage is already legal in Mexico City, however, the Miami Herald reported today that "A unanimous ruling by the Mexican Supreme Court overturning a state law against same-se-x marriage has opened the way for the eventual legalization of gay marriage across Mexico, legal experts say. The court ruled unconsti-tutional a law in southern Oaxaca state that defines marriage as a legal union between a man and a woman."

      Vietnam: Last July, the Justice Ministry in Vietnam said it would consider a provision for same-se-x marriage rights in an amendment to the country's marriage laws.

      Taiwan: Last year, a same-se-x Buddhist couple married in Taiwan, where a legalization bill has been pending since 2003. Taipei is also home to Asia's largest annual gay pride parade, according to organizers. Taiwan’s Ministry of Justice are currently examining whether to change their civil code to accept same-se-x marriage or to legislate for civil partnerships. Taiwan could very well be the first Asian country to legalize gay marriage.


      May 24, 2013 at 11:58 pm |
  10. lionlylamb

    As it is written in Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, "My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that He also [is] flesh".

    Come on all you Christians,-explain this! The LORD is a mortal being? Go figure!

    May 24, 2013 at 11:34 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      I read that he is saying man is flesh, not that God is.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:03 am |
  11. Reality

    The Pope's words are empty words in the 21st century. And why is that? Scroll back to p. 27:

    May 24, 2013 at 11:33 pm |
  12. HarryGP

    The typical atheist's big thrill is to tell everyone they reject God and try to get everyone to believe nothing did everything. How is this going to work in heaven? Will everyone debate atheists in heaven about God's existance? Will atheists quite down while God's judging and then start denying God during the intermissions? I'm sure this makes sense in an alternate universe somewhere. But my understanding is, unless someone believes God, and believes Jesus died for their sins, and repents of their sins... then it's not looking good. Or I'm missing how atheists will be clowning around parading their 'nothing god' in heaven... like they do here now.... because they live for this and don't want to know the truth.

    The truth is in the bible.

    May 24, 2013 at 11:30 pm |
    • Reality

      o Think infinity and recycling with the Big Bang expansion followed by the shrinking reversal called the Gib Gnab and recycling back to the Big Bang repeating the process on and on forever. Human life and Earth are simply a minute part of this cha-otic, sto-cha-stic, expanding, shrinking process disappearing in five billion years with the burn out of the Sun and maybe returning in another five billion years with different life forms but still subject to the va-ga-ries of its local star.

      May 24, 2013 at 11:35 pm |
    • Observer

      "try to get everyone to believe nothing did everything".

      Sounds like Christianity that says that God came from nothing and then created the universe from nothing.

      May 24, 2013 at 11:40 pm |
    • Billy

      Lol – it's pretty obvious you don't know the first thing about atheism. Maybe if you just google atheism, you should be able to get a lot closer.

      May 24, 2013 at 11:40 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Harry Gut Plug brays: the typical atheist's big thrill is to tell everyone they reject God and try to get everyone to believe nothing did everything.

      I don't see anyone making any such statements, liar.

      May 24, 2013 at 11:44 pm |
    • Athy

      Even if they could understand what the fuck he said.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:06 am |
  13. jack

    I find it amusing that a writer for CNN is called MERICA!

    May 24, 2013 at 11:27 pm |
    • Athy

      What's so amusing about that, Jack? What's in a name, eh?

      May 25, 2013 at 12:08 am |
  14. Greyson Smythe


    May 24, 2013 at 11:02 pm |
  15. iolo

    Seems the Pope believes in Maria Valtorta's writings:
    Jesus « ...A reward or punishment according to the deeds accomplished in the earthly life. Do not think that Charity is unfair, and that only because many people do not belong to Israel or to Christ, although they are virtuous in the religion which they follow convinced that it is the true one, they are to remain forever without reward. [...] You may say: “Then, what justice is there in belonging to the holy religion, if at the end of the world we shall be treated exactly as the Gentiles?” I reply to you: the same justice which there is − and it is true justice − for those who, although they belong to the holy religion, will not be beatified, because they they did not lead a holy life. A virtuous heathen, only because he lived according to choice virtue, convinced that his religion was good, will have Heaven at the end. » ...
    − The Poem of The Man†God. Chapter 442: Jesus Speaks of Charity to The Apostles

    May 24, 2013 at 10:59 pm |
    • Ken

      The kooks are out. Must be a full moon. Hey, it is!

      May 24, 2013 at 11:02 pm |
    • Athy

      Not only is it full, I think there might be a partial eclipse tonight.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:14 am |
  16. Ken

    faith – like your moniker on this thread, you are incoherent. I prefer Reason over faith. There is actual evidence for the scientific view of reality. Absolutely none for the faith of the religious. But yes, I suppose that wishful thinking about going to heaven after one dies is comforting. But unfortunately that is the wish of a childish mind. Enjoy your fantasy...it's all you have left.

    May 24, 2013 at 10:43 pm |
  17. Steve

    Thanks Pope for speaking honestly, with compassion. Our world needs more of it. Jesus is the way to Heaven and everyone, including Atheists can accept the free Gift of external life through Jesus Christ our Lord....

    May 24, 2013 at 10:39 pm |
    • Ted

      Question for ya Steve: how is it that the Jesus sacrifice was necessary, by an omnipotent creature? Could your god not have done the saving without that?

      May 24, 2013 at 11:03 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      God requires blood for sin. That is his rule, so you'll have to ask him why.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:09 am |
    • faith

      u cannot figure out y your god did that 4 yourself, dodo?

      Question for ya Steve: how is it that the Jesus sacrifice was necessary, by an omnipotent creature? Could your god not have done the saving without that?

      May 25, 2013 at 12:34 am |
    • Mary Rogers


      You missed the point! If God is omnipotent then he could redeem people by just forgiving them. In fact Jesus taught that that is what we do for each other. No "eye for an eye." So the question remains why God would make up this rule of blood sacrifice? The ancient Jews picked up the ritual of animal sacrifice from other cultures. When Jesus died it is obvious that they transfered that belief of blood sacrfice to Jesus. Frankly a God that requires animal or human sacrifice doesn't sound like a good God at all. In the OT there was a young virgin girl that was sacrificed because her father made a deal with God to do so if Ged helped him win a battle. Does that sound like a moral God to you?

      May 25, 2013 at 2:11 am |
  18. popseal

    "Except a man/woman be born from above, he/she cannot enter into the Kingdom of God", said Jesus. Spiritual birth plants God's Kingdom in the life of the believer. Before I became a Christian, I was told to take my arguments to Jesus, not to the confused souls that surrounds us.

    May 24, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
    • The real Tom

      And? Do you have a point? Or are you just showing off your shiny new hypocrisy?

      May 24, 2013 at 10:26 pm |
    • Ted

      Step up now to buy your Spiritual Birth Plants from George's Plant Kingdom...

      May 24, 2013 at 11:05 pm |
    • Amie Perez

      So how'd that go? Taking your argument to Jesus, I mean?

      May 24, 2013 at 11:09 pm |
  19. michael

    I love this pope! Now I can tell all my catholic friends not to worry about me going to hell!

    May 24, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
    • Athy

      Yeah, man. You get a free pass. That's got to piss them off.

      May 25, 2013 at 12:11 am |
  20. lionlylamb

    Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, “My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that He also [is] flesh”

    It is biblically written but seldom read that, "The kingdom (domains) of the Godly is lain within (inside) us all". We are Gods' living buildings made flesh, in the likenesses of the Gods onward-moving generations ever living in multiplied abundances deeply inside all mannerisms of celestially-based Life augmentations. Humans are the Inner-Gods’ Lifeboats where-when mankind’s Time is nearing the earth’s sun going super nova, they all scurry aboard their Human Lifeboats; flying off into outer space and escape the sun’s wrath! Rah!

    May 24, 2013 at 9:47 pm |
    • snowboarder

      that is a big bunch of jibberish.

      May 24, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
    • The real Tom

      You were expecting perhaps THE SPANISH INQUISITION???

      May 24, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
    • lionlylamb


      I guess your grammatical education is limited then?


      58? We both are? I would never have guessed you to be of aged elderliness! My sympathies,,,, The up and coming toddling generations will most likely pull out all the plugs and give a quick lube job plugging all but one plug back in all in a matter of a moments' notices! We await your lasting plug!

      May 24, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
    • The real Tom

      LL, you're an alcoholic wreck who abused a sibling and is mentally ill. You and I have nothing in common but a birth year. I'm a healthy, working, productive, successful, happily married woman who wants for nothing.

      May 24, 2013 at 10:32 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Tommie girl child,

      All Plugged up now are we T? My 'mental clarities' are above board and not 'hidden' with lustrous cavalcades of name-labels to be as an 'inspiration' of sorts. I am all that I am for anything more than what I now am would I not ever be what I really am?

      May 24, 2013 at 10:52 pm |
    • Athy

      Lion, what the fuck are you saying?

      May 24, 2013 at 11:54 pm |
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