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Poll: America losing its religionBy Dan Merica, CNN Washington (CNN) – More than three in four of Americans say religion is losing its influence in the United States, according to a new survey, the highest such percentage in more than 40 years. A nearly identical percentage says that trend bodes ill for the country. "It may be happening, but Americans don't like it," Frank Newport, Gallup's editor in chief, said of religion's waning influence. "It is clear that a lot of Americans don't think this is a good state of affairs." According to the Gallup survey released Wednesday, 77% of Americans say religion is losing its influence. Since 1957, when the question was first asked, Americans' perception of religion's power has never been lower. According to the poll, 75% of Americans said the country would be better off if it were more religious. The poll doesn't reflect Americans' personal religiosity, such as church attendance, but rather how large events and trends shape shared views, Newport explained. For example, the sexual revolution, the Vietnam War and the rise of the counterculture fed the perception that religion was on the wane during the late 1960s, he said. Views of a secularizing America peaked in 1969 and 1970, when 75% of Americans said faith was losing its clout in society. A similar view dominated from 1991-94 and from 2007 to the present. Americans saw religion increasing its influence in 1957, in 1962 and at a few points during the Reagan presidency in 1980. This number also spiked to its highest point ever - 71% - after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. The pollster didn't speculate on the contemporary factors that led to the current views on faith's influence. Still, the poll numbers are dramatically influenced by church attendance, according to Gallup. More than 90% of people who attend church weekly responded that a more religious America would be positive, compared with 58% of Americans who attended church "less often." The Gallup poll was conducted via telephone from May 2 to May 7. A total of 1,535 people were sampled for the poll, which has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. soundoff (6,389 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 Next »
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Funny how CNN has kept this forum open for 75 pages, but has closed all the ones about the IRS abuse of power. Weird.
Notice any time the gay issue is discussed is when they keep the article going. That, and they have no imagination.
so VERY true!!!!! thats why I don't watch it!!!!! cnn is a LOSER!!!
What does the IRS have to do with religion, other than the fact manuy "Christians" worship money?
"so VERY true!!!!! thats why I don't watch it!!!!! cnn is a LOSER!!!"
And yet here you are commenting on this page, driving up the hit total and adding to CNN's revenue.
Moron.
For you HS.............chadie too.................the creation museum chad again do you take your show on the road ?
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Faith-Healing Churches Linked to 2 Dozen Child Deaths
by Vince Lattanzio posted on May 25, 2013 02:45PM GMT
http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/5/25/faith-healing-churches-linked-to-2-dozen-child-deaths#
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Have a great life.
Also notice how the political ticker blog does not allow for replies to stupid comments. If it were not for the replies on this blog, there would not be 75 pages. When you allow people to actually discuss a topic, there is more interest than when you just let morons spout.
My Dog: I can never get my comments to post on Political Ticker. And I try every day.
Also, look at Eatocracy. They allow you to reply to a reply. That format is pretty cool; you can zero in on the exact person you wish to reply to within a thread.
Don't understand why the blog formats are different for some blogs.
For more on the infamous Resurrection con, see Professor Gerd Ludemann's review in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, (Mark 16) and also http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb275.html.
For more on the infamous Ascension con, see the same book, Luke 24:50-53 and
http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb480.html
So where are the bones???
According to Professor JD Crossan's many exhaustive studies, they still are a-mouldering in the ground outside of Jerusalem or were eaten by wild dogs and are now cycling through nature's recycling system.
And by now, JC's remains on a molecular level are spread amongst all the Palestinians, Jews and Christians in and around the greater Jerusalem area and beyond considering the area was a major trading corridor for centuries. And just think if one of JC's bones would be found, he could be cloned. Alleluia !!!!
Or maybe there is some blood on all those hundreds of cross relics. Let the cloning begin!!!!
Reality, now I know what is meant by the line "i see dead people".
I can't speak for Dyslexic, HeavenSent, but I can tell you that I get those knocks on my door at LEAST twice a month...and this is despite a "No Soliciting" sign displayed. Apparently they this that sign doesn't apply to them.
jase? did you ever think maybe they are not soliciting. try asking, nicely of course.
Having an imaginary friend is healthy. When you're five.
amen!!!
Imagining that you know more than God is acting like a five year old.
Claiming god is real with zero evidence is childish.
"Imagining that you know more than God is acting like a five year old."
Imagining that you know the mind of god through an iron age comic book has been fvcked with more times than a san diego streetwalker is the height of pompousness
The internet will transform religions for years to come, making them more transparent, making them responsible for their own words.
No longer will people just listen and believe; people demand proof. Google it if you have doubts. It's a great progress for mankind.
Ah yes, ye ol' transformational vanity trick of the masses.
"2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."
Our Transformational President: A Mixed Legacy Thus Far....wants the control, too. Ain't that sweet, a leader servant.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glen-browder/obama-legacy_b_2654287.html
The internet will transform religions for years to come, making them more transparent, making them responsible for their own words.
No longer will people just listen and believe; people demand proof. Google it if you have doubts. It's a great progress for mankind.The internet will transform religions for years to come, making them more transparent, making them responsible for their own words.
No longer will people just listen and believe; people demand proof. Google it if you have doubts. It's a great progress for mankind.
That's not exactly a good example, unless you're one of those who believes everything you read on the Internet?
Exactly. Don't believe everything you read, not even the old book. Have an open mind. Seek knowledge. Demand proof.
Current search on Bing chadie ..........bookmark update chad........3rd one from top of page.
RDFRS: When Christians become a 'hated minority'
http://www.richarddawkins.net/.../5/5/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority
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Have a great life chad.
science, the only reason you hate and accuse us of being bigots is because you only want to hear and learn what you want to instead of hearing and learning what you need to. Big difference that will save you soul.
@HS: " save you soul."
please show us a "soul"
my understanding of the human body is it functions based off of electrical impulses sent along the nervous system originating from the point of stimuli or the brain, whichever began the impulse.
thanks girls.
that sure is proof chrome dome. awesome.
if u ever figure out how 2 b s and not get laughed off the earth, u r welcome 2 try again. thanks al qaeda. genius.
u got nothin. nothin. but i new that. preciate u showin off ur academic credentials,
who was jesus christ, anyway? is there rally not 1 nazi god-hating fascist that has any idea how 2 debate me, a christian intellectual scholar?
thanks sambo. u r cooked, my beloved. bye bye
One click, single action, faith, you could have jeebus spraying his special savior goo all over your face....take that step, jeebus is engorged, waiting on your silky mouth
There are probably still a good number of Americans that believe in God, but not organized religion. Baptists and Catholics have made a fool of themselves so many times. Baptists dropping the Boy Scouts is just one more injustice. Americans do not like mean spirited people; and our churches are full of them.
Helloooo atheist!! Just to remind you that atheism is stupidity in Full bloom.
S21 is a lying troll....move along, nothing to see here.
@ empty Cranium,
Prove me a troll and a liar, otherwise you're just another atheist and atheism is stupidity in Full bloom! 😀
You have already proven it by your post.
troll: Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response.
@ empty Cranium,
That proves you to be the liar and the troll in a roll! Atheism is stupidity in Full bloom.
@ empty Cranium,
😛 I can see Wikipedia is your only source. That's the truth! Atheism is stupidity in Full bloom.
Fuck off, Salero. You're an asshole.
Sally, It's asking for trouble appending your IQ to your handle.
@ Richard Cranium
Who's the troll here? This is the BELIEF blog. If you're looking for the Atheist blog, go to skeptic dot com. TROLL!
You too sally /JB
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Atheism is a belief...if you want to preach to the choir go to church.
Also jason...I am not a troll as my primary purpose here is not to just post imflammatory comments intentionally trying to get emotional responses, that S21 doing that.
My purpose here is more philisophical discussion, which many do, but many others do not.
Try understanding words before you use them.
I am an ignorant troll = ignore my retarded posts.
@Richard Cranium.. "Atheism is a belief...if you want to preach to the choir go to church."
Atheism is NOT A BELIEF. Atheism is simply a LACK OF BELIEF IN GOD.
Atheism is a belief is like saying not playing chess is a hobby.
@TT "question of your particular God's existence as something independent of your imagination has no utility, except possibly for you"
@Chad "this notion that you can ignore the reality/non-reality of God based entirely on the usefulness of the concept to you.
is complete nonsense.. Utterly illogical in every respect.
The reality of everything is completely independent of it's utility to you. That is an astonishingly irrational statement...
"well, I have no use for it, so I decide it isnt real"
wow.
Did you take a syatement out of context, Chad? Because it certainly looks that way to me. Kind of like is I just wrote Chad: "That is an astonishingly irrational statement…"
Hey chadie ......................from long ago ..............crickets go SPLAT
Earth’s timeline ................chad remember this...........L4H but me on the list for this.
Trace our planet's geological and biological ages............better than the bibles timeline.
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Big circle here chadie...................
look what shows up on Bing 16 hours ago
When Chad gets excited he misses the Reply link.
Chad and Really-O? – a dialogue (fictional, just barely)
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Chad: I have a 1980 Yugo that can hit 200 mph.
Really-O?: I find that hard to believe.
Chad: What would you consider necessary and sufficient evidence that my Yugo can go 200 mph?
Really-O?: Let's go out to a track and, under controlled conditions, with anyone interested in attendance, get your 1980 Yugo up to a speed of 200 mph. That would do it.
Chad: Well, look at this...I have a Yugoslavian magazine from 1984 in which this guy says his 1980 Yugo went 200 mph. You see, it says, "And as we passed the hour of noon, we traveled two hundred miles"...or something like that...I had to have it translated into French, and then Spanish, and then Old English and then modern English, but see, right there, plain as day.
Really-O?: Sorry, but that doesn't suffice as necessary or sufficient evidence that your Yugo can go 200 mph. I want to observe your Yugo hit 200 mph.
Chad: I've driven my Yugo 200 mph...I already told you that. You expect me to do it again on demand?
Really-O?: Well, yes. You asked what would suffice as necessary and sufficient evidence and I told you.
Chad: Well, the speed limit is 65.
Really-O?: What does the speed limit have to do with whether or not your Yugo can hit 200 mph?
Chad: You clearly have not investigated Yugos. You need to spend some time reading the Yugo manual and this 1984 Yugoslavian magazine. Then we can have a serious conversation about the issue.
Really-O?: Chad, you asked what would suffice as necessary and sufficient evidence that your 1980 Yugo can hit 200 mph and I told you, clearly and concisely. I don't know what more I can do.
Chad: Well, you see, the real question is, "What would you say if I told you my radio goes really loud?"
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Gee, Chad, I guess those silly imaginary dialogues are fun.
For context, please refer to these threads:
https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/29/poll-america-losing-its-religion/comment-page-71 @ June 1, 2013 at 4:39 pm
https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/29/poll-america-losing-its-religion/comment-page-69 @ May 31, 2013 at 6:33 pm
https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/29/poll-america-losing-its-religion/comment-page-67 @ May 31, 2013 at 6:01 pm
@Chad: "If you had met Jesus Himself as physically resurrected, would you have believed it?"
@Really-O? "Nope...not without necessary and sufficient empirical evidence"
@Chad "wow, you wouldnt consider a resurrected Jesus "necessary and sufficient empirical evidence".
Interesting.. What exactly IS "necessary and sufficient empirical evidence"?
guess that is consistent though. Atheists such as yourself are absolutely committed to anti-theism regardless of the evidence."
@Chad,
Chad: "If you had met Jesus Himself as physically resurrected, would you have believed it?"
Really-O?: "Nope...not without necessary and sufficient empirical evidence"
Chad: "wow, you wouldnt consider a resurrected Jesus "necessary and sufficient empirical evidence".
I'm guessing that Really-O? is saying that if someone claimed to be the resurrected Jesus, that s/he would still need to see evidence of such a claim.
You seem to be saying that if Jesus were, in fact, undeniably, ressurrected...
Two different scenarios.
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Would science exist without religion? Could it have progressed without those influenced by religion?
Creationist
Scriptures were man-made, created by men, edited by men.
LIAR
that's the best you have, simply calling someone a liar?...where is the evidence to the contrary?
faith, "creationist is a liar". u sounds like a little immature kid.
Richard Cranium
So much of the bible has been proven wrong, it amazes me that people still buy into it.
And they've been calling the end of days for 2000 years.
Jesus said he would be back in one generation....100 generations later and there are still people waiting for him, like puppies waiting for their masters return.
lol
what a raging hysterical moron
I am not raging, nor hysterical, and I would have to drop 80 IQ points for me to be classified as a moron.
Are you drunk? Nothing you write makes sense! If Richard Cranium is wrong, tell us WHY instead of all the ad hominems.
go ahead. prove what is proven false. good luck
thanks for confronting sambo
JR
Are you drunk? Nothing you write makes sense! If Richard Cranium is wrong, tell us WHY instead of all the ad hominems.
oh. ok. sure
Faith, I saw you bragging about your debate skill recently. I encourage you to debate Richard Cranium.
I have seen him debate; this ought to be good.
Let me get the popcorn.
Adam and Eve...story of creation...disproven by Genetics...it is impossible for the human race to have come from one set of genetic material, it is proven we come from apporox 600 individuals, and the bible does not explain how ALL humans on the planet have neanderthal DNA.
Noah's ARk, or the second story of creation...disproven by physics, oceanolgy, ichtyology, biology, meteorolgy, genetics and a few more.
Jonah and the whale (or fish or sea monster...disproven by biology , ichtyology, physics.
All disproven...it is just that you do not accept the proof, but it is there nonetheless.
Faith, let me rephrase: nothing you write makes any sense except to yourself. Even your answer of "oh. ok. sure" doesn't make sense. I'll ask again: are you drunk?
Come on faith...tell me exactly how it was that god made it rain 6 inches a minute over all parts of the world, simultaniously for 40 days and nights. That is what would be required to raise the water level above the highest peak (29,000 feet) in 960 hours. There isn't that much water on the planet...as it is every drop that falls is eventually evaporated.
How could any of the fich or sea creatures survive the change in water salinty. The fresh water fish would die because of too much salt, the salt water varieties would die because of not enough salt, then you have every species of plant that would have died, so it would be yeras before anything resembling food would start to appear.
(work the body work the body....ding...end of round one)
"thanks for confronting sambo"
Confront sam about what? Isn't it up to your good little Christian friends to defend you? Can't you defend yourself? If you get your poor little feelings hurt so easily, don't post here. Simple as that.
"prove what is proven false"
if is proven false, the proof has already been determined
perhaps that sticky, salty backup has made its way from your throat up into your brain (such as it is)
Sounds like a great gain for America.
Weird name. Your parents were west coast outdoor moonshiners?
I think it might be a Boston Tea Party reference.
Touche, Clarence.
Nope. Think sou' .
having dealt with dark possessed animals, i can assure u, this snake, lil fatty sambo, is as sick a possessed witch as u will find roaming around free
this demon possessed pervert is a danger to everyone around her. mark my words, she has been and continues to be involved criminally in secksual debauchery
sam stone
chad is everybit the disingenuous, lying cvnt as his buddies topher and austin
sam stone
faith: jeebus is waiting for you to take your rightful place on your knees, pleasing him. it is as close as a click away
thanks to each and every nazi god hating fascist 4 giving lil fatty sambo heck 4 being the degenerate animal and terrorist, the filthy evil deviant pervert she is. really think u r swell. appreciate your moral stance against this demon possessed felon
baby dodo
weeping and gnashing of teeth
u won't b able 2 die
Are you drunk?
Outstanding! Organized, dogmatic religion, the type that is prevalent in the USA, does far more harm than good and it should fade away into insignificant obscurity.
poor baby
Faith: Sweet cheeks, you need to get back on your meds. And check yourself in for a 6 week twice daily series of ECT.
And to summarize for the new members of this blog:
Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!
• As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.
• As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.
• There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.
• There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.
• There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.
• Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.
• Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.
• A constant cycle of reincarnation until enlightenment is reached and belief that various beings (angels?, tinkerbells? etc) exist that we, as mortals, cannot comprehend makes for a no on Sikhism.
Added details available upon written request.
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yawn
For more on the infamous Resurrection con, see Professor Gerd Ludemann's review in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, (Mark 16) and also http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb275.html.
For more on the infamous Ascension con, see the same book, Luke 24:50-53 and
http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb480.html
So where are the bones???
According to Professor JD Crossan's many exhaustive studies, they still are a-mouldering in the ground outside of Jerusalem or were eaten by wild dogs and are now cycling through nature's recycling system.
And by now, JC's remains on a molecular level are spread amongst all the Palestinians, Jews and Christians in and around the greater Jerusalem area and beyond considering the area was a major trading corridor for centuries. And just think if one of JC's bones would be found, he could be cloned. Alleluia !!!!
Or maybe there is some blood on all those hundreds of cross relics. Let the cloning begin!!!!
having dealt with dark possessed animals, i can assure u, this snake, lil fatty sambo, is as sick a possessed witch as u will find roaming around free
this demon possessed pervert is a danger to everyone around her. mark my words, she has been and continues to be involved criminally in secksual debauchery
sam stone
chad is everybit the disingenuous, lying cvnt as his buddies topher and austin
sam stone
faith: jeebus is waiting for you to take your rightful place on your knees, pleasing him. it is as close as a click away
thanks to each and every nazi god hating fascist 4 giving lil fatty sambo heck 4 being the degenerate animal and terrorist, the filthy evil deviant pervert she is. really think u r swell. appreciate your moral stance against this demon possessed felon
Are you drunk?
JR – I think it is not drunk. It is a delusional freak off its anti-psychotic meds.
Willyboy, I haven't read a coherent post by this person yet.
Well...regardless of what you believe. This time of falling away is mentioned in the Bible – no one knows the time-frame...but we are in the last days of the existence of earth as we know it. It is becoming more obvious to me that the BIble is right. Evil is decending on the earth.
OLD NEWS - even a 6-year-old will not buy this.
So much of the bible has been proven wrong, it amazes me that people still buy into it.
And they've been calling the end of days for 2000 years.
Jesus said he would be back in one generation....100 generations later and there are still people waiting for him, like puppies waiting for their masters return.
Well regardless of what we believe?
What I know is that the bible is a book written by man and horribly written at that.
It is irrelevant what is written in that proven piece of fiction.
John Sharp, ignorance is no excuse.
Ignorant are those that confuse the mythology of the bible with reality.
Drop the "Religion",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,That word should have 4 letters, it's been smeared by the world........... Seek your spiritual side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do it for yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fill the void in your heart,,,,,, then you will be whole. Stop judging the spiritual world with the knowledge of the physical world,,,,,,,Please, this is my wish for all,,,, find your inner self,,,,, seek it with a open heart,,,,, clear your thoughts of this world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Stop hanging the fate of your immortality on your opinion of Joe Blow who goes to this or that church.....The fact that someone professes to be of this or that "religion" means absolutely nothing.... Honestly try this, and if you find I'm full of crap then you loose nothing,,,,,,,,,,,, But if you find I'm not, you will have inner peace and life eternal....I wish this for all of my brothers and sisters of this life....
Get a grip
If I find my spiritual side, can I still use proper punctuation?
You are the captain of a cruise ship,,,, you just obtained knowledge that there's a terrible defect in the ship and it will soon sink.... But the defect cannot be seen so you can't show anyone, but you know when it happens it will all be over in an instant. So you convince your crew that it's for real and send them out to tell the passengers... Some follow right away, but others say oh that's BS there's nothing wrong, just look around us people are happy and having fun. Tell the captain he's nuts, and just laugh. ,So some stay behind. Now, you know that there's enough room on the life boats, but once this happens there won't be time to use them. So do you return to beg and plead with the passengers while they ridicule you and make fun and laugh, or do you shove off with the ones you have?. It's all faith, and once you take the leap of faith with an open heart you to will see it clearly,,,,,,,,,, If you have no intention of EVER having faith like that, you will never know the truth... Very simple.............................................................
If I make up a story... and it contains a highly contrived metaphor... and I think it will convince others... of a point which I am unable to clearly articulate,,,,,,,, then I might have mud between my ears,,,,,,,,,,,
"truth" required evidence........... where's your's?