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May 31st, 2013
04:19 PM ET

Baptists plan exodus from Boy Scouts

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
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(CNN) - For Southern Baptist pastor Tim Reed, it was Scripture versus the Scouts.

“God’s word explicitly says homosexuality is a choice, a sin,” said Reed, pastor of First Baptist Church of Gravel Ridge in Jacksonville, Arkansas.

So when the Boy Scouts of America voted to lift its ban on openly gay youths on May 24, Reed said the church had no choice but to cut its charter with Troop 542.

“It’s not a hate thing here,” Reed told CNN affiliate Fox 16. “It’s a moral stance we must take as a Southern Baptist church.”

Southern Baptist leaders say Reed is not alone.

Baptist churches sponsor nearly 4,000 Scout units representing more than 100,000 youths, according to the Boy Scouts of America.

That number could drop precipitously.

The Southern Baptist Convention, the country’s largest Protestant denomination, will soon urge its 45,000 congregations and 16 million members to cut ties with the Scouts, according to church leaders.

The denomination will vote on nonbinding but influential resolutions during a convention June 11-12 in Houston.

“There’s a 100% chance that there will be a resolution about disaffiliation at the convention,” said Richard Land, the outgoing head of the Southern Baptists’ Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, “and a 100% chance that 99% of people will vote for it.”

“Southern Baptists are going to be leaving the Boy Scouts en masse,” Land continued.

Roger “Sing” Oldham, a spokesman for the Southern Baptist Convention, emphasized that local congregations make their own decision on the Scouts.

But he, too, said he expects Baptist delegates, which the church calls “messengers,” to voice their disagreement with the BSA's decision to allow gay youths.

“With this policy change, the Boy Scouts’ values are contradictory to the basic values of our local churches,” Oldham said.

Several religious groups with strong Scouting ties support the new policy.

“We have heard from both those who support the amended policy and those who would have preferred it would not have changed,” said BSA spokesman Deron Smith.

Faith-based organizations charter more than 70% of Scout chapters, providing meeting space and leadership, according to the BSA.

“There have been some organizations that have decided not to renew their charters with Scouting," said Smith, "but we can’t quantify the impact of the amended policy."

The National Jewish Committee on Scouting, the United Church of Christ, the Episcopal Church, the Unitarian Universalist Association and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which sponsors more Scout units than any other faith, all endorsed the change.

The National Catholic Committee on Scouting, which is run with oversight from a bishop, said Thursday that allowing gay youths in the Scouts does not conflict with church teaching. Each bishop will decide whether or not to allow churches in his diocese to charter Scout units, the committee added.

“We ask that Catholic Scouters and chartered organization heads not rush to judgment,” said Edward Martin, chairman of the National Catholic Committee on Scouting.

But the Rev. Derek Lappe, pastor of the Our Lady Star of the Sea Catholic Church in Bremerton, Washington, has already made up his mind.

“I do not feel that it is possible for us to live out, and to teach, the authentic truth about human sexuality within the confines of the Boy Scout’s new policy,” said Lappe.

The priest told CNN affiliate FOX16 that his parish will part ways with the Scouts and develop its own programs.

There may soon be an alternative to the Scouts for social conservatives like Lappe.

John Stemberger, founder of On My Honor, a group that opposed the Scouts’ change in policy, plans to convene conservatives in Louisville, Kentucky, in June to consider forming a new Scout-like group, which could be up and running by the end of 2013.

“Churches and Scoutmasters are looking for leadership and direction,” said Stemberg, an attorney in Orlando, Florida.

A number of conservative religious denominations already sponsor their own groups.

For instance, the Southern Baptists have the Royal Ambassadors, an explicitly Christian program founded in 1908 for boys in first through sixth grade. (A similar group called Challengers equips older boys in “mission education.”)

The name comes from the New Testament, in which the Apostle Paul tells Christians to be “ambassadors for Christ.”

The estimated 31,000 Royal Ambassadors pledge “ to become a well-informed, responsible follower of Christ; to have a Christlike concern for all people; to learn how to carry the message of Christ around the world; to work with others in sharing Christ; and to keep myself clean and healthy in mind and body."

While not as outdoorsy as the Boy Scouts, Ambassadors do camp and play sports, said Land, who was a member of the group during the 1950s. But instead of merit badges for archery and bird study, young Ambassadors earn patches for memorizing Bible verses and mission work.

Southern Baptists said they are preparing for a surge of interest in the Royal Ambassadors at their upcoming convention in Houston.

“We really have an opportunity here to strengthen our RA programs,” the Rev. Ernest Easley, chairman of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Executive Committee, said in a sermon last Sunday, “and to get the boys in a program where they’re going to be protected, where there’s a high moral standard and where they will have an opportunity to learn about camping, missions, evangelism in the local church.”

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Baptist • Belief • Christianity • Church • Gay rights • gender issues • Politics • United States

soundoff (10,821 Responses)
  1. Pastor Bob

    This just in:

    The Bible was written by a bunch of bronze age goat herders and reflects nothing more than their primitive world view. It's 2013 and you're a grown up. You don't have to live your life by an old book of fairytales.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
    • bookitybookity

      That's true. But then you have to be prepared to live eternally in hell.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • Pastor Bob

      If you can prove that hell is anything more than a made-up fantasy of a sick minded man, I'll convert to your religion right now. I won't hold my breath though.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      Pastor Bob says "I dont need that outdated invention canlled a wheel It is wrong because it is old and we have better ideas like a square tire!"

      June 2, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
    • Farmer Johnson

      OH Pastor, You have much to learn. And I would not want to be in your church. You are the type that perpetuates anti-Christ. You need to re-evaluate youself.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
  2. Farmer Johnson

    For the preservation of scouting

    I am an Eagle Scout and pray for the preservation of its values and commitment to instill values in young men . I am still proud of what I achieved. Now I see several organizations that want to undermine the true meaning of scouting. They are using religion to accomplish their goal. I submit that it is okay for those to believe that everything is okay. But I am strictly opposed to the BSA not holding to the belief that everything is not okay. The BSA was and is founded for the development of young men. They should not introduce the acceptance of immoral values.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • ~My Path's View

      🙂

      June 2, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • LivinginVA

      I consider discrimination an immoral value, therefore I applaud what the BSA have done.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
  3. ~My Path's View

    mama k Nice try, but you're wrong.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • Khloe

      In what way? Please elaborate.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • Farmer Johnson

      How am I wrong – explain

      June 2, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • Farmer Johnson

      This is to livingin VA. You mean to tell the public that you are that blind. You may need to look up the meaning of the word. May God bles your soul.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
  4. Carlos

    They will not be missed....

    June 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • Farmer Johnson

      Values will never be missed only forgotten.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
  5. repubsareevil

    Funny,the people who claim the loudest to be Christian, act the least Christian

    June 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • ~My Path's View

      Funny the ones who claim to be tolerant are the most intolerant.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      Christians are not special. They don't act better or worst, on average, than non Christians. There is no agreed upon standard for Christian behavior among Christians. This is why there are so many Christians sects.

      The BCS has a set of values. While I disagree with those values, others should leave them alone as long as they do NOT impose their values on them. In this case the BCS is NOT imposing their values. They are just leaving so they can practice their values.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
  6. MCruise

    Meh. So what. Let the Southern Baptists leave. A good part of what they say they are worried about will leave with them since they are always in such denial about their own demons.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      Some of the gay right supporters on this site appear to be like evangelicals. i.e. they think it is their mission to change the beliefs of those that feel differently than they do. I'm 100% for gay rights, but I don't care if others are NOT expect when it comes to public policy decisions.

      To me it is folly to demand to be accepted. This is true for gays, christians, races etc... with regards to how we interact as private citizens. As long as the law ensure equality, let others alone. For example, when it comes to SSM I don't ask that someone be OK with two men or two women getting married. All I ask is that they do NOT vote to prevent it since that is not equality under the law.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
  7. Patti

    Good. There will be more room for tolerant scouts.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      By "tolerant" I assume you mean the manufacturing term tolerant which refers to having room to give. Oh yeah, you will have some loose tolerances in the new crop of scouts, you will.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • Rick

      Correct. NAMBLA. the North American Man Boy Love Assoc. is applauding people like you who prey on little children. Stupid dumbasz

      June 2, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • MCruise

      Rick, you seem stuck on the NAMBLA angle. You seem confused because you seem to be interchanging gays with pedophiles. You might be revealing more about yourself than anything going on with this story.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
  8. Colin

    Can somebody help me. What is the ful lquoote about 'If you tell a Christian that their wife is cheating on them or that frozen yogurt will help them, they require evidence, but if you tell them a being is reading their mind they blindly accpet it" or something like that.

    Anybody know the correct quoote and its true attribution?

    June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • MCruise

      No, I can't help you but the yogurt bit made me spit my drink up on myself!

      June 2, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
    • Poor Edgar Derby

      “Tell a devout Christian that his wife is cheating on him, or that frozen yogurt can make a man invisible, and he is likely to require as much evidence as anyone else, and to be persuaded only to the extent that you give it. Tell him that the book he keeps by his bed was written by an invisible deity who will punish him with fire for eternity if he fails to accept its every incredible claim about the universe, and he seems to require no evidence what so ever.”

      ― Sam Harris

      June 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      Tell Poor Edgar that a scientist said most anything and he'll believe it and tout "it is science" and "there is evidence to prove this" even if he hasn't looked at the evidence or even understand it.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • Russ

      The New Republic (atheists) on the new atheists' (Harris, Dawkins, etc.) hypocrisy...
      http://www.newrepublic.com/article/atheisms-wrong-turn

      June 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      Voice of non reason; you're very confused. Science is based on probability and not believe. i.e. evidence is reviewed and a probability determined. As new evidence is discovered opinons change.

      This isn't true with FAITH. Faith is a belief in someithing without the need for evidence.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      jazz guitar, science becomes faith if you accept it without understanding it.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • Colin

      Thakns PED.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
  9. steve

    do you suppose now that liberals have forced the boyscouts to take in gays , that they will feel better when they find out their little son was violated by a fellow gay liberal scout leader?

    June 2, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
    • Pastor Bob

      Don't you think it's time you finally came out of the closet?

      June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      Steve, why do you grant liberals so much power? There were multiple reasons the BSA decided to make this policy change. One primary one was their corporate sponsors with many being on their board. These corporate leaders didn't wish to be associated with the current BSA policy because they felt it would hurt their brand.

      Anyhow, if the BSA leadership was really against the policy change but only decided to make a change because of pressure of liberals that is a reflection on the BSA leadership and NOT liberals.

      You need to accept that your POV is now the minority.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • MCruise

      Gays are not pedophiles. You are confused.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • george

      yeah steve your right .this has been a facet of the liberal agenda for decades . If a democrat came to me crying the blues about little timmy I'd be half tempted to deck him. They play this game of gotcha on conservatives like nothing they ever support will ever bite them in the ass.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • Rick

      Yeah McCruise, you keep telling yourself that. NAMBLA members are out in force on the board today. You know the North American Man BOy Love Assoc. Those guys are both gay and pedos and they want nothing to do with little girls. They only want to violate and r a pe lil boys. Why is there no such thing as the North American Man girl love assoc? Because str8 guys don't think like that. Pedos do. but your either a str8 pedo or gay pedo. IDIOTAS!!!!

      June 2, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • MCruise

      Rick...it is you that is the most suspect on this thread. Protest a little more.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
  10. Greg Vick

    Let's see ... These "Christians" will turn around and vote for someone like Mark Sanford as a representative in the House, but they won't let their kids be in the Boy Scouts because they now allow kids who are gay? Let's see ... Mark Sanford lied to the people of South Carolina, he went to see is mistress in Argentina, and he used tax payer funds. I'm so sick of these religious self righteous people ... Don't throw stones inside a glass house!!

    June 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • Rick

      You sound like a NAMBLA member and you're certainly a fascist who wishes to silence all who think differently than you. Typical liberal BS

      June 2, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
      • Greg Vick

        It's not liberal BS as you state, but an observation. If you're a Christian, then you should always uphold those values. You can't pick and choose what values you want to believe in. Just like you can't edit the bible so that it meets your needs.

        All I'm saying us that too many Christians pick and choose what's morally right. Mark Sanford is a liar, a cheat and an adulterer. Yet he is elected into office by these same Christians that think being gay is evil. Is not what he did evil?

        June 2, 2013 at 10:18 pm |
    • Billy

      And Rick is an obvious troll with such wild assumptions.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
    • MCruise

      Rick...methinks you doth protest too much (and we all know what that generally means).

      June 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      Well Rick is correct that I see too many gay right supporters that are protesting too much over the SBC decision. I'm 100% for gay rights and support the BSA policy change, but I support the SBC decision as well.

      Each group is free to associated with who they wish to associate with. So the SBC leaves and forms their own boyscout type group. Great. This is best for all involved since the values of each 'side' cannot coexist in harmony.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
      • Greg Vick

        The SBC already has their own Boy Scout type group ... It's called the KKK.

        June 2, 2013 at 10:19 pm |
    • MCruise

      Rick hasn't posted a single comment that's been right or factual.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
  11. Pastor Bob

    I'm glad that the Boy scouts chose inclusion over hate.

    Good riddance to the Baptist hate-based religious fanatics.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Except they really didn't. The ban still applies to adults, like the lebian moms who were booted as cub scout leaders and to anyone who doesn't believe in God.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • Russ

      Kettle, meet pot.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Saraswati –

      And it should be obvious to all that lesbians pose a grave threat of molesting young boys.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Actually there is a real danger that children who are exposed to LGBT people regularly will grow up thinking them to be ordinary people deserving of the same things the rest of us enjoy.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • Really-O?

      Well said, Tom, Tom, the Other One.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @Really-O,

      Exactly, which just shows how much BS it is whenever these folks claim its a safety issue. It's a morality issue for them written right into their charter. Safety issues whould be better managed in numerous other ways than excluding people.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @Saraswati & @Tom, Tom, the Other One –

      It really has become clear that the whole "same sex zeitgeist" is a glaring example of why non-believers must be vigilant regarding the beliefs and, more importantly, actions of believers. The whole, "Why do you care what we believe" schtick truly rings hollow.
      .

      Cheers

      June 2, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      Wow I disagree with my fellow gay rights supporters here. Why do you care what these religious people believe as long as they don't try to impose their values on us, via the law. In terms of the law 'our side' is clearly winning. This is why religious groups are so angry. The smart ones know the tide has turned and it isn't turning back. Even Rove has advised the GOP to reduce the power of the religious right if the GOP wishes NOT to repeat the 2012 failures.

      So I see no need to care about their POV unless they are trying to pass a specific law. Then we need to come out in force like we did in 2012 and 2008.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @jazz guitar man –

      I understand your point, however, just for some perspective – do you think we should ignore instances of racism that still occur regularly in the American South simply because those committing the acts are not trying to pass racist legislation?

      June 2, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      Really-O. If this act of racism was practiced by an individual as it relates to their private life than yes, I would ignore it. e.g. someone says 'I will not allow my white children to play with black children'. I have meet some people like this and I will not invite them into my home or interact with them. But I don't see what is gained by trying to shame them. Often that just makes them dig their heals in more (like some here at this site). Hopefully as their children grow up and interact with others they will understand that their parent's values are really messed up.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @jazz guitar man –

      Give this some thought...

      "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

      Attribution disputed (perhaps J.F.K or Edmund Burke)

      June 2, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
    • MCruise

      JazzGuitar: At this point, I am left to believe that you are wholly disingenuous. Clearly, the notion you are furthering that they make no attempts to impose their beliefs on others is not based in facts or reality at all. That is exactly what they do at all times on all days as they attempt to legislate morality on all others. I say all others because they so rarely live by the morals and values they preach.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
  12. Mike

    Hmmm, Let's see what the Bible has to say about it....
    Mark 10:14 "But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God."
    Matthew 19:14 "Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
    So it's pretty obvious that by kicking out these children (the Boyscouts) that the Baptists are once again proving what hypocrites they are... (hey, don't argue about it with 'me'... *they* are the ones who claim that their book is always correct- no matter what!- and then don't follow it!)

    June 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • ~My Path's View

      What about this??? "God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Rom 1:26-27).

      June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • mama k

      No matter what's in that book, MPV, if it's out of date with current knowledge, then it's USELESS. That other brands of Christianity have picked up on such readily available knowledge and others refuse should be a clear sign that any claim on the matter as some moral objective truth is BOGUS. get a clue.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • Fire Fly 6

      Romans 1:28 – 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; <~~if your going to use the bible to promote gay behavior ..read it all..because the bible says it is a sin and vile

      June 2, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • Mike

      let's see, my quotes came straight from Jesus (supposedly)... yours came from "Paul" (who never even met Jesus and who was rejected by most of the disciples). Now think about that for a second...

      June 2, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Mike,

      Luke 17:21 For the kingdom domains of God are inside our being upon a plain of concise smallness, we buildings created by the gods will never be without godliness values. 1 Corinthians 3:9 declares that our bodies of fleshy consecrations are just buildings of which the godly do maintain and live within. We are all of the gods' buildings made into flesh garnished kingdom domains. The noxious fumes of ill-rationed configurations make manifested augments of lambasted insecurities in many minds, lingering sensations of wrongly convoluted imaginative sensibilities leverages. Even in Genesis 6:3 the LORD tells us that even He is of flesh and will one day be dead as a doornail!

      June 2, 2013 at 4:58 pm |
    • MCruise

      And neither of you has any proof of who actually wrote the Bible and you both seem to ignore that many frauds claimed to have written it also claimed to be apostles when they were anything but.

      Leave your fiction out of politics and policies that affect all citizens. Live your life according to it if you so choose. The moment you attempt to impose your beliefs on me is the moment we part ways.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
  13. taskmasterendgame

    God Bless the Boy Scouts of America

    June 2, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
    • ~My Path's View

      He doesn't.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • Billy

      Wow – God in the form of MPV has joined the blog. How about that.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • LinCA

      @~My Path's View

      You said, "He doesn't."
      True, it very likely doesn't exist.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • JOregon

      Ya but I doubt he is going to bless too many of the religious hypocrites

      June 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      LinCA, you're correct. It is complete folly for anyone to claim some so called 'god' is on their side.

      What is also a joke is when each side quotes the bible to make their case. This book written by men, is subject to interpetation. If there is a god I highly doubt 'he' would care about a BSA or SBC policy decision.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
  14. Pastor Bob

    We've recently seen Baptist preachers call for parents to beat their sons and daughters if they show any signs of being gay and for gays to be rounded up and put in concentration camps.

    Is anyone surprised these backward lunatics are doing this?

    June 2, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
    • Rick

      you sound just like hitler

      June 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • Rick

      Just replace Baptist with "Jews"

      June 2, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
    • Doobs

      @ Rick

      What part of PB's post is incorrect? Those news stories are real. Is your only defense to call someone Hitler? Weak.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      Doobs; Rick is a very confused person. I doubt he will respond. It was a Baptist leader that wanted to put gays in camps. So any comparision to Hilter should be made towards that guy and not the original poster. Of course you understand this, but Rick doesn't. When people are too angry they lose any sense of reason.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:12 pm |
  15. Foster149

    It takes faith to trust that you can inspire others to your values. The problem is that young people see right through our hypocrisy.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
    • mama k

      They sure do. If Christianity doesn't want to fizzle away, they better start keeping up to date with current scientific knowledge.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      You will have to excuse mama k. She touts about science but onviously doesn't even know what science is. Science makes no moral judgment about anything. Only testing hypotheses based on observation. Moral judgments are best considered through philosophy.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • mama k

      You'll have to forgive VOR for leaping to "spooky" physics when they can't handle what current science tells us.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • Khloe

      VOR, you've yet to display any. Mama k backs up her assertions with data. You've done nothing but snark. Is this your typical style of debate?

      June 2, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • Saraswati

      VOR, mama k never said science made moral statements. However science very definitely is a basis for deciding specific moral cases within an already established framework or for determining that certain sources of moral laws are unreliable.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      Khloe, what data has mama k presented?

      June 2, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
  16. Decision Well Accepted!

    Poll Finds Majority Acceptance of Gays From the B-ball Court to the Boy Scouts

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/poll-finds-majority-acceptance-of-gays-from-the-b-ball-court-to-the-boy-scouts/

    June 2, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      Nazi Germany had overwhelming support for getting rid of Jews...what is your point?

      June 2, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
    • jazz guitar man

      The point is that the tide has clearly turned. Take the number of states that have made SSM legal. The BSA leadership decided to go along with the tide. Of course there are many lay people in the BSA that disagree. They are free to join the BSA type groups churches will be forming. So no harm was done to anyone based on the decisions by the BSA or the SBC. Just join a group that best suits your values.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • Doobs

      @VOR

      There's a big difference between acceptance of people's differences and the acceptance of killing people because they are different. Even you can't be that stupid.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      Notice Doobs attempt to patronize while simulataneously insulting me. It's called "The Liberal Bifecta."

      June 2, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • Doobs

      @ Voice of Insanity

      And I meant every word of it. You deserve all the patronizing insults anyone can hand out. Your posts are stupid, off base, and the very opposite of logic and reason.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
    • MCruise

      VOR, your comments deserved to be called out for the hateful, ignorant rhetoric they are. That you take issue with it is of no consequence.

      June 2, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
  17. Jeeebus Chribusss

    People are getting tired of all this backward, hate-based religion.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
  18. Fundies Gone Wild! They are panicking!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0-04VDrCbM
    . . . . . . .

    June 2, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
    • ~My Path's View

      Benny Hinn is a false prophet. Bad example.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:09 pm |

    • Every Christian wants to call another Christian not a Christian. what else is new?

      June 2, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      The phrase "false prophet" implies that there's such a thing as a "true prophet".

      In your own words: false!

      June 2, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
    • ~My Path's View

      I didn't say Hinn wasn't a Christian...learn to read what is before you and quit reading between the lines.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
  19. lionlylamb

    The darkness of sexual seditions leads others against the ingrained social treasuries of lamentable issuances viewable upon worldly socialist stages. People who assign themselves an animal's reprobate instinct clamor below the human essentials of heterosexual dynasties. All sociologic nationalisms are now becoming herded towards whoredom's inglorious ways which dare topples the very essences of many socialized civilities regulative heterosexual dispensations in long held belief systems which nowadays are viewed as being redundantly unnatural to human sexist conditioning.

    June 2, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
    • RichardSRussell

      Between you and Mr. Filthy, this quotation is getting quite a workout today:

      "Word salad may describe a symptom of mental conditions in which a person attempts to communicate an idea, but words and phrases that may appear to be random and unrelated come out in an incoherent sequence instead. Often, the person is unaware that he or she did not make sense. It appears in people with dementia and schizophrenia, as well as after anoxic brain injury." —Wikipedia

      June 2, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      RichardSRussell,

      So then what you're insinuating is your inept inabilities to fathom reasonableness towards a hierarchy of worded ideologies? There are multitudes of brainless wanderers who wonder in aimlessness relationships around simpletons who themselves are redundant blisters of half-worded typographies. Keep on keeping on is my motto. Seems to be yours as well.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
  20. darth cheney

    Not a hate thing, huh? Kool-Aid much?

    June 2, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
    • VoiceOfReason

      hating on christians still = hate much?

      June 2, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • John

      You're the hateful ones, you knew this would destroy the boyscouts, yet that is exactly what you wanted because truth be told you hate the boyscouts and the kind of people it produces–real boyscouts.

      June 2, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
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