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May 31st, 2013
04:19 PM ET

Baptists plan exodus from Boy Scouts

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
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(CNN) - For Southern Baptist pastor Tim Reed, it was Scripture versus the Scouts.

“God’s word explicitly says homosexuality is a choice, a sin,” said Reed, pastor of First Baptist Church of Gravel Ridge in Jacksonville, Arkansas.

So when the Boy Scouts of America voted to lift its ban on openly gay youths on May 24, Reed said the church had no choice but to cut its charter with Troop 542.

“It’s not a hate thing here,” Reed told CNN affiliate Fox 16. “It’s a moral stance we must take as a Southern Baptist church.”

Southern Baptist leaders say Reed is not alone.

Baptist churches sponsor nearly 4,000 Scout units representing more than 100,000 youths, according to the Boy Scouts of America.

That number could drop precipitously.

The Southern Baptist Convention, the country’s largest Protestant denomination, will soon urge its 45,000 congregations and 16 million members to cut ties with the Scouts, according to church leaders.

The denomination will vote on nonbinding but influential resolutions during a convention June 11-12 in Houston.

“There’s a 100% chance that there will be a resolution about disaffiliation at the convention,” said Richard Land, the outgoing head of the Southern Baptists’ Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, “and a 100% chance that 99% of people will vote for it.”

“Southern Baptists are going to be leaving the Boy Scouts en masse,” Land continued.

Roger “Sing” Oldham, a spokesman for the Southern Baptist Convention, emphasized that local congregations make their own decision on the Scouts.

But he, too, said he expects Baptist delegates, which the church calls “messengers,” to voice their disagreement with the BSA's decision to allow gay youths.

“With this policy change, the Boy Scouts’ values are contradictory to the basic values of our local churches,” Oldham said.

Several religious groups with strong Scouting ties support the new policy.

“We have heard from both those who support the amended policy and those who would have preferred it would not have changed,” said BSA spokesman Deron Smith.

Faith-based organizations charter more than 70% of Scout chapters, providing meeting space and leadership, according to the BSA.

“There have been some organizations that have decided not to renew their charters with Scouting," said Smith, "but we can’t quantify the impact of the amended policy."

The National Jewish Committee on Scouting, the United Church of Christ, the Episcopal Church, the Unitarian Universalist Association and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which sponsors more Scout units than any other faith, all endorsed the change.

The National Catholic Committee on Scouting, which is run with oversight from a bishop, said Thursday that allowing gay youths in the Scouts does not conflict with church teaching. Each bishop will decide whether or not to allow churches in his diocese to charter Scout units, the committee added.

“We ask that Catholic Scouters and chartered organization heads not rush to judgment,” said Edward Martin, chairman of the National Catholic Committee on Scouting.

But the Rev. Derek Lappe, pastor of the Our Lady Star of the Sea Catholic Church in Bremerton, Washington, has already made up his mind.

“I do not feel that it is possible for us to live out, and to teach, the authentic truth about human sexuality within the confines of the Boy Scout’s new policy,” said Lappe.

The priest told CNN affiliate FOX16 that his parish will part ways with the Scouts and develop its own programs.

There may soon be an alternative to the Scouts for social conservatives like Lappe.

John Stemberger, founder of On My Honor, a group that opposed the Scouts’ change in policy, plans to convene conservatives in Louisville, Kentucky, in June to consider forming a new Scout-like group, which could be up and running by the end of 2013.

“Churches and Scoutmasters are looking for leadership and direction,” said Stemberg, an attorney in Orlando, Florida.

A number of conservative religious denominations already sponsor their own groups.

For instance, the Southern Baptists have the Royal Ambassadors, an explicitly Christian program founded in 1908 for boys in first through sixth grade. (A similar group called Challengers equips older boys in “mission education.”)

The name comes from the New Testament, in which the Apostle Paul tells Christians to be “ambassadors for Christ.”

The estimated 31,000 Royal Ambassadors pledge “ to become a well-informed, responsible follower of Christ; to have a Christlike concern for all people; to learn how to carry the message of Christ around the world; to work with others in sharing Christ; and to keep myself clean and healthy in mind and body."

While not as outdoorsy as the Boy Scouts, Ambassadors do camp and play sports, said Land, who was a member of the group during the 1950s. But instead of merit badges for archery and bird study, young Ambassadors earn patches for memorizing Bible verses and mission work.

Southern Baptists said they are preparing for a surge of interest in the Royal Ambassadors at their upcoming convention in Houston.

“We really have an opportunity here to strengthen our RA programs,” the Rev. Ernest Easley, chairman of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Executive Committee, said in a sermon last Sunday, “and to get the boys in a program where they’re going to be protected, where there’s a high moral standard and where they will have an opportunity to learn about camping, missions, evangelism in the local church.”

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Baptist • Belief • Christianity • Church • Gay rights • gender issues • Politics • United States

soundoff (10,821 Responses)
  1. Correctlycenter

    God's word vs. politically correctness. God wins again...

    June 2, 2013 at 10:26 pm |
    • barbraS

      "God's Word"???? Do unto others?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:28 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      God is invisible, undetectable, and irrelevant and doesn't "win" anything.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:29 pm |
    • M

      Don't you get tired of carrying that hate? I mean, it' got to wear on you.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:29 pm |
    • Observer

      God's word: slavery and discrimination against women and the handicapped.

      Political correctness: None of the above.

      Political correctness wins AGAIN.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:30 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      All right! We have a winner! Let's tell God what He's won: a faithful following of bigoted descendants of former slave owners is what we have for God today.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:30 pm |
    • sam stone

      sorry, corruptlycenter.....there is increasing acceptance of gays

      looks like your god is an impotent little b1tch

      June 2, 2013 at 10:39 pm |
  2. Tom P.

    Good. Religious nuts are the worst kind of plague on this planet. A couple of people eat some ergot on rye and record their visions along with their bias claiming its the word of god and the uneducated still follow it to this day.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:26 pm |
  3. Jay Allen

    Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya! Good riddance!

    June 2, 2013 at 10:24 pm |
  4. Scott in Texas

    Moral Values

    It is time we embrace moral values and leave religion behind. Religion is not a necessity for morals. Religion only hampers what we know to be true and correct.

    Scott

    June 2, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
  5. mama k

    A recent poster wrote that God hates the sin of homosexuality.

    Religions that agree with the poster's statement claim such a notion as an absolute moral truth. We know such notions are founded in ancient writings from millennia past. For many things we have learned about through science, beliefs have had to adapt to keep from looking silly and being out of date with current knowledge. This is simply another time where fundamental religions are struggling to keep up with current knowledge and throwing a hissy fit about the discomforting situation they find themselves in.

    We know that homosexuality has always been a naturally occurring feature across many species including mankind, and science is now getting closer and closer to answers on how it survives across generations. Now that the scientific research shows that homosexuality is not a choice, but formed very early via epigenetic factors (resistant to change), religions that abhor homosexuality look sillier than ever on the issue. For Christians in particular, I would also say their wildly conflicting Biblical interpretations regarding a wide array of topics including this one is just another indicator that their objective truths are anything but objective.

    For issues such as this, with the knowledge we have today, Christians need to come to the table without "scripture", and be ready to discuss such issues rationally. Otherwise they will continue to face an ever increasing tide of distrust and an ultimate indictment of irrelevancy.
    . . . . . . . . .

    June 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm |

    • =================================================

      Psychology

      The American Psychological Association states "there are probably many reasons for a person's sexual orientation and the reasons may be different for different people", and says most people's sexual orientation is determined at an early age. Research into how sexual orientation in males may be determined by genetic or other prenatal factors plays a role in political and social debates about homosexuality, and also raises concerns about genetic profiling and prenatal testing."

      Professor Michael King states: "The conclusion reached by scientists who have investigated the origins and stability of sexual orientation is that it is a human characteristic that is formed early in life, and is resistant to change. Scientific evidence on the origins of homosexuality is considered relevant to theological and social debate because it undermines suggestions that sexual orientation is a choice."

      The Royal College of Psychiatrists stated in 2007:

      "Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person's fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. Sexual orientation is therefore not a choice."

      Biology

      The following is from the article:

      Homosexuality ultimately a result of gene regulation, researchers find (12/11/2012 – LiveScience)

      [ The search for a "gay gene" may be off-target, new research finds. Another process called epigenetics that switches genes on and off may explain why homosexuality runs in families.

      Epigenetics are heritable changes caused by factors other than DNA. Instead of traits getting passed down through the genes, epigenetic change happens because of the way genes are regulated, or turned on and off.

      These genetic regulators may be the reason homosexuality persists in nature despite the fact that gay people are less likely to reproduce, suggests the new study published in the journal The Quarterly Review of Biology.

      "These things have evolved because they're good for the parents, but they sometimes, not [with] high frequency, but sometimes carry over" into offspring, study researcher William Rice, an evolutionary geneticist at the University of California, Santa Barbara, told LiveScience. In a male fetus, Rice and his colleagues write, an epigenetic change that benefited the mother may lead to "feminization" of sexual preference — homo- or bisexuality. The same may be true for epigenetic changes passed down by dad to a female fetus. (The terms feminization and masculinization of sexual preference refer to sexual orientation only — not to physical or personality traits of the offspring.)

      The findings add to past research suggesting gay men haven't died out, because female relatives of gay men tend to have more children on average than other females. The study researchers specifically found that two genes passed on through the maternal line could produce this effect.

      Hormones, epigenetics and orientation

      Rice and his colleagues focused on epi-marks, which are molecular changes that act like temporary "switches" to turn genes on and off. If a gene is a blueprint, the epi-mark is the construction foreman who makes sure the product gets built. An epi-mark also determines when, where and how much a gene is expressed, according to the National Institute for Mathematical and Biological Synthesis.

      These molecular switches are usually erased very early in the developmental process, but they can be passed down from generation to generation, too, Rice said.

      Some epi-marks are particularly important during fetal development, when they promote normal physical development in the sexes despite natural variations in testosterone during pregnancy. Researchers know that fetal exposure to too much testosterone can masculinize the genitals, brain or behavior of a genetically female fetus. Likewise, too little testosterone can make a genetically male fetus more feminized.

      But here's the catch: There's lots of overlap between the levels of testosterone male and female fetuses get exposed to. That means there must be another side to the story, Rice and his colleagues wrote.

      That side appears to be epigenetics, Rice said.

      "Early in development, we think these epi-marks are laid down so that girl fetuses will be relatively insensitive to testosterone and male fetuses will be relatively sensitive to testosterone," Rice said.

      Biological behavior

      Thus, if an epi-mark that kept a mother from getting exposed to high testosterone in development gets passed on to her son — the opposite sex — it could desensitize him to testosterone, contributing to his sexual preference for men. Similarly, if a male-specific epi-mark from dad gets passed to a daughter, it could "masculinize" her sexual preference, making her more interested in women.

      These findings could explain why twin studies show that homosexuality runs in families, but no "gay gene" can be found, Rice said. In identical twins, there's about a 20 percent chance that if one twin is gay, the other will be too. If genetic change were responsible for homosexuality, you'd expect a much higher match, Rice said. Epigenetics, however, can explain the heritability without the need for a specific genetic change.

      The hypothesis could be tested by examining epigenetic marks in parents of kids with gay versus straight offspring, Rice said. There are, of course, concerns that this knowledge could be used by parents who want to avoid gay offspring, Rice said, but that concern already exists around certain hormonal conditions in utero, which are known to contribute to an increased chance of offspring being lesbians.

      "That cat's already out of the bag," Rice said. He added that an understanding of the biological underpinnings of homosexuality could help emphasize that same-sex behavior is not "unnatural."

      "In fact, it's a major part of the natural world," Rice said. Fourteen percent of Western gulls raise chicks in female-female pairs, he pointed out. And 8 percent of male sheep show zero interest in fertile ewes, but get sexually excited by other rams. ]
      . . . . . . . . . . . . .

      June 2, 2013 at 10:21 pm |

    • God is a general purpose hate engine. Hate homosexuality? God can help you with that, and with anything else you'd like to hate today.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:24 pm |
    • dogowner

      What you sight as evidence is merely speculation and wishful thinking by those who are trying desperately to prove a point. You are trying to find something to try and prove the conclusion you want. You also have no faith. You mean nothing as a role model.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:49 pm |
    • Billy

      Wow- dogowner sure knows his stuff. Leading scientists in the fields of Psychology and Biology recently published in the Quarterly Review of Biology are just "speculation" to mr. dogowner. maybe even mr. dogowner's chauffeur knows a thing or two that can rub off on us dumb ones.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:59 pm |
  6. Austin

    openly sinful?

    Not at church. We don't do that here.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
    • sam stone

      how're them cats, austin? still getting squashed in yer hell-you-sin-nation?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:23 pm |
    • Austin

      do we practice sin at church? No. No one does. at scouts maybe, but not at church. and the church has what is called integrity.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:23 pm |
  7. musta haditcoming

    How does this cult keep people so stoooopid that they fall for the ancient religious shyster trick: when a volcano or any natural disaster occurs, blame it on the victim... claim it's gawwwwds wrath... tell them you have the secret knowledge (garnered from people who hear voices, of all things) that will save them from the next one... and all you ask is for ten percent of what they earn. Haitian disaster, AIDS, you name it... it's always gawwwwwds wrath... thousands of years before the J-man arrived. A collapsed building doesn't fall 'just so' and only target those who 'had it coming'. A moron could figure that out. What this cult has manufactured is a fictional revenge-loving sociopath that they worship. It is not God.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:19 pm |
  8. Tabano

    Kids join boy scouts to be taught to be MEN, no deviated.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:19 pm |
    • sam stone

      right, they got the church to be deviated

      June 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OFkeKKszXTw

      June 2, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
  9. Tabano

    Man with man ? woman with woman ? Mother Nature does not accept it and never will. No matter what abnormals may say

    June 2, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • BB

      Mother nature with mother nature? LOL!

      June 2, 2013 at 10:19 pm |
    • mama k

      You don't seem to know much about Mother Nature, Tabano. I'll post something above for your benefit.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:19 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Ignorant of s3xual behavior of mammals in the wild, are we? Not very surprising. You're probably ignorant in plenty of other ways that you don't advertise as loudly, too,

      June 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
    • kamisama

      Happens all the time in nature, peanutbrain.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
    • Saraswati

      You really didn't research this topic at all before posting did you? ho.mose.xual behavior is very common among a wide variety of animals. Read up for a few days and get back to us.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
  10. lionlylamb

    Yesterday's serviced rationalizations are today's servicing fascinations hell-bent on becoming tomorrow's servile liberations.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • Confused

      So you're saying today's pro fascinations gave yesterday's rationalizations a blo-job?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:28 pm |
  11. kamisama

    "There may soon be an alternative to the Scouts for social conservatives like Lappe."

    It involves wearing a white pointy hood.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
  12. Chad

    @HotAirAce "That's exactly why mentally ill delusional believers ..."

    =>if you had been present 2000 years ago to personally witness the events of Jesus ministry, and those events transpired exactly as the gospels detail, would you believe that Jesus was the Messiah?

    June 2, 2013 at 10:15 pm |
    • Seven Seven Seven

      Yes, but that's just a story.

      All religions are full of such stories.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Chad, if you had been present at the times and places that Jesus was supposedly doing all that you believe he did and yet you saw nothing of the sort at all, would you disbelieve or would you continue to believe despite facts and evidence to the contrary, like you do currently?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:18 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      What I would wonder, Chad, is if I did conclude that Jesus was the Messiah, would I have concluded so if he were not.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
    • Chad

      @Seven Seven Seven "Yes, but that's just a story."
      @Chad "How do you know it is just a story?

      Cpt Obvious, If Jesus was never resurrected all of Christianity is a lie.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      No.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:27 pm |
    • Jim

      All of Christianity is a made up story. There is no historical evidence outside of the Bible that Jesus even existed.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:27 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Re: "Cpt Obvious, If Jesus was never resurrected all of Christianity is a lie." Chad probably doesn't realize it but there's a chance he's beginning to figure it out.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:29 pm |
    • Chad

      @Jim,

      -If you were present 2000 years ago to witness Jesus ministry, would you believe?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:30 pm |
    • Austin

      Hey what does it mean if someone experienced supernatural revelation? As in, they started dreaming about things in the bible they hadn't read yet?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:31 pm |
    • Chad

      @HotAirAce "That's exactly why mentally ill delusional believers ..."

      @Chad "if you had been present 2000 years ago to personally witness the events of Jesus ministry, and those events transpired exactly as the gospels detail, would you believe that Jesus was the Messiah?"

      @HotAirAce "No."

      @Chad "I find that fascinating, so, you are so completely committed to disbelief, that you would deny the evidence were it right in front of you.

      amazing

      June 2, 2013 at 10:32 pm |
    • Chad

      @Austin

      -If you were present 2000 years ago to witness Jesus ministry, would you believe?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:32 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      No, I committed to discovering facts. Their is no evidence verifying the alleged miracles – none.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Chad, let's consider Peter (when he was not yet Peter) and what Jesus asked him. Was Peter convinced by events? Would you have been?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:36 pm |
    • Chad

      @HotAirAce "No, I am committed to discovering facts. Their is no evidence verifying the alleged miracles – none".
      @Chad " you are not committed to discovering facts 🙂
      you just stated that if you had personally witnessed the events 2000 years ago, you would not believe.
      The only way for that to be possible, is if you were committed to non-belief despite any evidence to the contrary.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:38 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Chad, when you see a magic act cut a woman in half, do you really believe the women was actually cut in half?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:39 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Jesus was never resurrected and Christianity is a lie. Simple.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:40 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      And no believer has any evidence to differentiate the jesus myth from a magic act.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:42 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      We believe what we are convinced to believe, Chad. If I had been alive and present and found myself convinced, then I would believe. If you were alive and present and found yourself convinced that Jesus was not the messiah, you would NOT believe. The odd thing, for you, is that you are easily convinced when it comes to your a priori religious belief, but you are not easily convinced when it comes to Islam or other religious beliefs. You're a hypocrite because you apply one standard of "convincing evidence" when it comes to your a priori religion, and you apply a more critical and realistic standard of "convincing evidence" when it comes to making a large purchase or swallowing food or drink.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:44 pm |
    • Austin

      Chad, if I was present 2000 years ago, and I saw His ministry........? That's a good question, I don't know where I would be without the Holy Spirit. I can't imagine what it would have been like seeing this ministry, BEFORE the Paraclete ?

      Jesus Christ is God, and there are those who hated Him and treasured earthly things. I need the Lord. I need His ministry. Good question Chad. His ministry would have appealed to who? I can say that because of my love for the old testament, that I would have looked intently into this Word!
      His name is above every name.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:49 pm |
    • Austin

      I think that through the Word, God has ways of permeating ones soul and spirit. And the old testament was cherished by Israel, I wonder how the rest of the world grasped the old testament, or the thought of the Messiah. The fact that the resurrection happened is the entire reason for the life of the church. And probably the mosque also.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:55 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Chad, This happens time after time. You ask "what evidence would you want" which is effectively saying "what evidence would it take to convince a non-believer of the christian version of the origin of the universe and all in it". The atheists then turn that back on you, effectively asking "what evidence did it take to convince you that the christian version of the origin of the universe and all in it is superior to any other religion". You never answer the question – you say "I'm convinced that my god is real"; the reason you sidestep is because you know you cannot provide any logical reason to choose christianity over any other religion and you cannot provide any evidence that the creation myth of any religion is correct (because science has explanations that refute them all).

      June 2, 2013 at 10:59 pm |
    • Austin

      In Santa we trust...you opt to the physical space where no one was. If God is here He was there . And I have the experience, and data as evidence of a personal encounter with an all powerful, revealing, supernatural
      God. It's hard to even become interested in the folly of the road you are blindfolded on.

      June 2, 2013 at 11:07 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Observation is not evidence. It doesn't matter what I observe or believe. Facts supporting a claim or what was observed are evidence. No believer has any facts supporting the existence of any god, a divine jesus or any of the alleged miracles.

      Chad's overall game is to instill a little doubt in non-believers or to get them to admit there might be some truth to The Babble, thinking that that will put them on the road to sharing his delusions. Of course, he is not bright enough to understand that just admiting the possibility that his myths are true is not sufficient and not a weakness to an atheist, or to understand that the improbability far outweighs the possibility.

      June 2, 2013 at 11:14 pm |
    • Austin

      Actually, really, and totally, if God did something, then it is a fact. He did it regardless of what you know or don't want to know.

      June 2, 2013 at 11:18 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      That's a really big "if" merely requiring you to prove the existence of your god, something which you have failed at thus far. But, please do amuse us with another try.

      June 2, 2013 at 11:27 pm |
    • Chad

      @Austin " if I was present 2000 years ago, and I saw His ministry........? That's a good question, I don't know where I would be without the Holy Spirit. I can't imagine what it would have been like seeing this ministry, BEFORE the Paraclete ?"

      =>that is an excellent and insightful question.

      June 3, 2013 at 9:03 am |
  13. Love One Another

    Christ taught love.

    Baptists teach hate.

    Therefore they are not followers of Christ.

    They're just fans.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:14 pm |
    • Mike

      Isn't it written that the antichrist(s) would turn people away from Christ while appearing to be holy and devoted to God?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • Jeb

      Mike

      A lot of things are "written" that never happened and never will. If you're still waiting for Jesus's return 2,000 years later, keep waiting. He's bound to show up eventually right?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
    • Chris

      Mike

      Turning away from Christ means doing the opposite of his teachings.

      If you do the opposite of his teachings and still claim to be Christian, that pretty much fits your definition of the Anti-Christ doesn't it?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
  14. BB

    In some countries (Yemen comes to mind) certain groups of people accept female circuumcision (sp to avoid censorship). To most of us, it's extremly barbaric and weird. That is the power of psychological conditioning! Tolerating gays due to habituation is nothing compared to that!

    June 2, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
    • N2P

      Certain groups in THIS country accept male circ.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
    • BB

      Just as stupid and barbaric, except on a much smaller scale.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:12 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Male cicu.mcision and female "circu.mcision" are not the same thing even remotely. What is refered to as female circu.mcision is essentially the same as cutting off a man's pen.is.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:31 pm |
  15. Apex301

    The last thing Jesus would want is for you to be tolerant of others, right?

    June 2, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
  16. Hey! You!

    Yow! Deliverance all over again! Que the banjos!

    'You got a purtty mouth!'

    June 2, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
  17. Mississippi Mike

    This is a good thing. Young boys should not be exposed to the hate and bigotry of the Southern Baptist Church. Baptists of this ilk are not true Christians. They are full of hate and bigotry. May the Lord have mercy on them all.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
    • BB

      On the other hand, the gays are the biggest biggots and haters when it comes to religious people.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:11 pm |
    • Hate-Based Religion

      BB

      I just don't understand why the world is so intolerant of your intolerance and bigotry. Why do they hate you for hating them? The world is so unfair.....

      June 2, 2013 at 10:12 pm |
    • BB

      ...but god loves you (comes up every time somebody dies cruelly).

      June 2, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
    • that's stupid

      @BB: that's stupid. that's like saying left-handed people are the biggest bigots and haters of religion. you seem to have caught either "@" disease or "Nice Try" disease. They both take a heavy toll on the brain.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • BB

      @ stupid: left-handed people have nothing to do with anything. Why do you keep bringing that up?

      June 2, 2013 at 10:21 pm |
  18. Tabano

    Boy Scout is an organization for BOYS not for abnormals

    June 2, 2013 at 10:07 pm |
    • Hate-Based Religion

      Hate is abnormal and extremely bad for your health.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Tabano

      You said, "Boy Scout is an organization for BOYS not for abnormals"
      Maybe that's why the Southern Baptists are such a poor fit.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      That's exactly why mentally ill delusional believers should not be part of scouting, or any organization other than their own cult.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
    • Apex301

      That's why the baptists are leaving

      June 2, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
  19. Don't mess with the Jeebus!

    Is there anyone less like Christ than your average Christian?

    June 2, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
    • Mike

      Amen to that brother! That's why the churches in this country are falling apart.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • Devin

      Perhaps one of the silliest, if not down right delusional, statements I've seen.

      June 2, 2013 at 10:48 pm |
  20. waspie wimmin

    Why can't liberals see that hatin' mixed marriage and hatin' ji ga boos & hatin' qua arrrs & hatin' the handicapped & hatin' communists & hatin' rag heads & hatin' liberals & hatin' catholics is gawwwwds pure love. I love mah gawwwwwd.

    June 2, 2013 at 10:05 pm |
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