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May 31st, 2013
04:19 PM ET

Baptists plan exodus from Boy Scouts

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - For Southern Baptist pastor Tim Reed, it was Scripture versus the Scouts.

“God’s word explicitly says homosexuality is a choice, a sin,” said Reed, pastor of First Baptist Church of Gravel Ridge in Jacksonville, Arkansas.

So when the Boy Scouts of America voted to lift its ban on openly gay youths on May 24, Reed said the church had no choice but to cut its charter with Troop 542.

“It’s not a hate thing here,” Reed told CNN affiliate Fox 16. “It’s a moral stance we must take as a Southern Baptist church.”

Southern Baptist leaders say Reed is not alone.

Baptist churches sponsor nearly 4,000 Scout units representing more than 100,000 youths, according to the Boy Scouts of America.

That number could drop precipitously.

The Southern Baptist Convention, the country’s largest Protestant denomination, will soon urge its 45,000 congregations and 16 million members to cut ties with the Scouts, according to church leaders.

The denomination will vote on nonbinding but influential resolutions during a convention June 11-12 in Houston.

“There’s a 100% chance that there will be a resolution about disaffiliation at the convention,” said Richard Land, the outgoing head of the Southern Baptists’ Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, “and a 100% chance that 99% of people will vote for it.”

“Southern Baptists are going to be leaving the Boy Scouts en masse,” Land continued.

Roger “Sing” Oldham, a spokesman for the Southern Baptist Convention, emphasized that local congregations make their own decision on the Scouts.

But he, too, said he expects Baptist delegates, which the church calls “messengers,” to voice their disagreement with the BSA's decision to allow gay youths.

“With this policy change, the Boy Scouts’ values are contradictory to the basic values of our local churches,” Oldham said.

Several religious groups with strong Scouting ties support the new policy.

“We have heard from both those who support the amended policy and those who would have preferred it would not have changed,” said BSA spokesman Deron Smith.

Faith-based organizations charter more than 70% of Scout chapters, providing meeting space and leadership, according to the BSA.

“There have been some organizations that have decided not to renew their charters with Scouting," said Smith, "but we can’t quantify the impact of the amended policy."

The National Jewish Committee on Scouting, the United Church of Christ, the Episcopal Church, the Unitarian Universalist Association and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which sponsors more Scout units than any other faith, all endorsed the change.

The National Catholic Committee on Scouting, which is run with oversight from a bishop, said Thursday that allowing gay youths in the Scouts does not conflict with church teaching. Each bishop will decide whether or not to allow churches in his diocese to charter Scout units, the committee added.

“We ask that Catholic Scouters and chartered organization heads not rush to judgment,” said Edward Martin, chairman of the National Catholic Committee on Scouting.

But the Rev. Derek Lappe, pastor of the Our Lady Star of the Sea Catholic Church in Bremerton, Washington, has already made up his mind.

“I do not feel that it is possible for us to live out, and to teach, the authentic truth about human sexuality within the confines of the Boy Scout’s new policy,” said Lappe.

The priest told CNN affiliate FOX16 that his parish will part ways with the Scouts and develop its own programs.

There may soon be an alternative to the Scouts for social conservatives like Lappe.

John Stemberger, founder of On My Honor, a group that opposed the Scouts’ change in policy, plans to convene conservatives in Louisville, Kentucky, in June to consider forming a new Scout-like group, which could be up and running by the end of 2013.

“Churches and Scoutmasters are looking for leadership and direction,” said Stemberg, an attorney in Orlando, Florida.

A number of conservative religious denominations already sponsor their own groups.

For instance, the Southern Baptists have the Royal Ambassadors, an explicitly Christian program founded in 1908 for boys in first through sixth grade. (A similar group called Challengers equips older boys in “mission education.”)

The name comes from the New Testament, in which the Apostle Paul tells Christians to be “ambassadors for Christ.”

The estimated 31,000 Royal Ambassadors pledge “ to become a well-informed, responsible follower of Christ; to have a Christlike concern for all people; to learn how to carry the message of Christ around the world; to work with others in sharing Christ; and to keep myself clean and healthy in mind and body."

While not as outdoorsy as the Boy Scouts, Ambassadors do camp and play sports, said Land, who was a member of the group during the 1950s. But instead of merit badges for archery and bird study, young Ambassadors earn patches for memorizing Bible verses and mission work.

Southern Baptists said they are preparing for a surge of interest in the Royal Ambassadors at their upcoming convention in Houston.

“We really have an opportunity here to strengthen our RA programs,” the Rev. Ernest Easley, chairman of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Executive Committee, said in a sermon last Sunday, “and to get the boys in a program where they’re going to be protected, where there’s a high moral standard and where they will have an opportunity to learn about camping, missions, evangelism in the local church.”

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Baptist • Belief • Christianity • Church • Gay rights • gender issues • Politics • United States

soundoff (10,821 Responses)
  1. Public Enemy Number 2

    Good riddance.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:59 am |
  2. thetruthwillsetyoufree

    So, I would take gay people over racists any day in the scouts. Let them go. The defeat themselves and hurt no one else.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:59 am |
  3. RUSerious

    Indoctrinating (brainwashing) children into religion before they can make a choice for themselves is child abuse. Good for the scouts. Christianity = mental disease.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • Choir Loft

      Brainwashing = teaching a child to tell the truth, not to steal, to obey the law of the land, to respect others, not to kill are all wicked things ??????

      Who is brainwashed and who is not?

      and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

      June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
    • Jon O

      Not to steal? To tell the truth? To obey the law?

      You sure do have a very interesting view of a prison-packed America coming it at over 70% Christian. Seems to me your little 'holier than thou' stance about how perfect you are doesn't hold up to real-life scrutiny.

      Or maybe you want to talk about all the church scandals nationwide?

      Or maybe you just want to actually be honest and stop pretending you – and all your church-going friends – aren't a bunch of selfish sinners every day of the week except Sunday, because as a resident of the Bible Belt – I can tell you for sure that's EXACTLY what all you big-mouths are.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
    • Pliny

      Hey Choir Loft.....don't act like an innocent. It *IS* brain-washing and you know it.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
    • SsO

      Brainwashing = telling a child to tell the truth, not to steal, to obey the law of the land, to respect others (that believe what you do) and not to kill, because if they don't a magical sky fairy will burn them for eternity.

      Good parenting = telling a child to do these things because it's the right thing to do for their fellow man/woman.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
    • Secular Humanist from Ohio

      Teaching children that if they commit an alledged sin and will go to hell unless they believe in jesus christ is child abuse. Teaching children that the world is less than 10,000 years old is child abuse. Teaching children that gays are immoral, that they can abdicate their personal responsibility, that sacrificing a human being is ok is child abuse.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
    • kippyafd

      Apparently you don't have kids. Parents teach their kids many lessons in life, I am not just talking about religion. But you cannot just wait for them to figure everything out by themselves.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:31 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'Choir Loft – Brainwashing = teaching a child to tell the truth, not to steal, to obey the law of the land, to respect others, not to kill are all wicked things ??????'

      I do all that without once having to bring a god into the mix.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:33 pm |
  4. Guest

    I trust the Bible before I would the gay folks. You love the sinner, not the sin.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • RUSerious

      Did your pastor teach you that ridiculous line? Children don't know the difference, so they just end up hating. Just like you, loon. Hate the bigot.

      June 3, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      I trust the gay folks over the bible. Love the believer; hate the belief.

      June 3, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • thetruthwillsetyoufree

      I trust what god puts in my heart over a book that was rewritten by people who wanted power over people. Reset the bible with the true texts and start over. Nothing in the bible excludes any of gods children. You do that!

      June 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • M

      Why reset the Bible? Just place it aside and practice love. It's that simple.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • ll

      Meaningless 'Christian' buzz phrases need to die a fast death.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'I trust the Bible before I would the gay folks'

      'trust'? meaning what exactly? you dont 'trust' gay folks? to do or not do what?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Guest is an obvious troll...ignore it.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:22 pm |
    • Nice Try

      truthwillsetyoufree… That's really funny. You reject the things that were written by God and placed inside a book called the bible, but yet you believe the things written by men when they told you the writers of the bible only wanted power over the people. Even worse, after rejecting the bible and saying you refuse to believe it, you turn right around and attempt to use that same bible to say it does not exclude any of gods children (although you have no clue who gods children is). LOL. You're really a character. And a hypocrite as well. FYI, the only one that's been putting things down in your heart is the devil. God works through the preacher. Go to church, listen to the preacher, learn some truth…

      June 3, 2013 at 12:29 pm |
    • Nice Try

      Richard Cranium… You stated, "Guest is an obvious troll.. ignore it."

      Answer: Wow. Anytime a devil feels the need to speak up and call someone a troll, that means the person they're referring to must be speaking truth. Go, Guest. Keep up the good work…

      June 3, 2013 at 12:33 pm |
    • snowboarder

      @try, there is no reason to believe that the bible was written by any gods.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:36 pm |
    • @chad


      You love the sinner, not the sin.
      .

      .. or

      Hate the ignorance not the ignorant.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:42 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'Nice Try – Answer: Wow. Anytime a devil feels the need to speak up and call someone a troll, that means the person they're referring to must be speaking truth. Go, Guest. Keep up the good work…'

      what a bizarre conclusion. truly bizarre.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:47 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'God works through the preacher'

      really? why? why does a god need a preacher in order to get his message out?
      and which preacher? the ones that molest kids?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm |
    • did you know that

      You mean the bible written for the Episcopal church (the King James version... bet yew didn't know that, Cletus)? Or do you mean some other bible. I have a gun-lovers bible. I don't automatically believe everything in it just because it was endorsed by some self-appointed authority. I mean, only a son of a monkey would be dumb enough to fall into that trap.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:53 pm |
  5. John

    I glad to see the Baptists stand up to liberal bigotry. There's nothing morally straight about sodomy.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:57 am |
    • JRNY

      Oh dear, John, you're one of those really, really, em...not-so-clever conservatrolls aren't you?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
    • Trix

      Hetero couples have anal sex also.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      you know the definition for sodomy includes oral right?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
    • Nice Try

      Trix… Yes, and it's just as wrong. But most heteros do it mostly out of ignorance because no one has taught them that it is wrong. But at least heteros couples have the relationship partly right. Whereas, gays have it completely wrong…

      June 3, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
    • midwest rail

      " most heteros do it mostly out of ignorance ..."
      Unsupported opinion.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
    • huh

      There's nothing morally straight about the bigoted cult-of-Westboro that actively supported slavery. It's bizarre that you feel so sanctimonious, Cletus. An informed, normal person would feel shame.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
    • kondorky

      What if the gay couple is celibate?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:20 pm |
    • that dont make no sense

      Being gay is liberal bigotry? That don't make no sense. We'd love to have you join our blabtist prayer groop. We don't do no thinkin' stuff... we live just to serve jeeeeezus by hatin'. You'd fit right in.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:56 pm |
  6. big brother

    wow, this has been a headline for a week, I would think all the Southern Baptists are gone by now, I hope they are!

    June 3, 2013 at 11:55 am |
    • Nice Try

      So you easily tire of anything about God, but you never get tired of the Devil, is that it?....

      June 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      "easily tire of anything about God, but you never get tired of the Devil" That's pretty funny... useless christian drivel, of course... but humorous nonetheless...

      June 3, 2013 at 12:23 pm |
  7. Bucky Dog

    This is exactly what the Baptists did in the 60s after the schools were intergrated. Pulled all of there kids out of the publilc schools because they were afraid of the blacks. Now they are afraid of the gays. We should all be afraid of the Baptists they are the true demons...

    June 3, 2013 at 11:54 am |
  8. Jon

    Good. Those backward, intolerant elements of the christian community are a bad influence on the rest of the youth anyway. They can go form their "christian scouts", and further isolate themselves in their bubble of people who agree with them.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • kondorky

      So. When they were using the facilities, resources and personnel of the Christian community, the Boy Scouts had nothing but good things to say about the influence on the youth.

      Now they have taken a stance against what the hand that was feeding them believed, so the Christian community is now a bad influence on the youth?

      How convenient.

      June 3, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • RUSerious

      Yes, brainwashing children into converting before they can make a choice for themselves is bad for children. Christianity = bigotry and intolerance. Not good for children at all.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • kondorky

      Wow, RUSerious. You are so caught up in your own propaganda that you don't realize your response has NOTHING to do with the original point or counterpoint.

      Re-read and try again.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
    • snowboarder

      @kondorky, how is the fact that the scouts refuse to discriminate against the teachings of any church?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
    • kondorky

      @snowboarder and et al

      The original statment Jon made was that the Christian community is a bad influence on the rest of the youth anyway, when expressing his happiness that Baptist churches were severing their ties with the BSA.

      My counterpoint was that no one had expressed any displeasure with how the Christian community influenced youth, when the BSA was using the facilities, resources and personnel of the Baptist churches, to serve their organizations needs.

      I imagine that no one will find any substantial discussion about how it was bad for the social development Scouts to be using churches when it was convenient for the BSA. Now that the BSA has changed one of the fundamental tenants of their organization, the churches has decided to let the organization go.

      It isn't bigotry or hatred, as much as it is simply one organization deciding not to align with another after they changed. I can't image the BSA is surprised by this, but all the hate mongering and athiestic yammering about religion and the influence of it, has zero relativity to whether or not one organization allows another to use their facilities.

      It does make for good dramatic theatre though.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:18 pm |
    • snowboarder

      @kondorky, what is most ironic is that a child can be a scout member in good standing before becoming se xually mature enough to realize they are hom ose xual and suddenly become a pariah to the SBC. the church really needs to get over spreading this irrational fear of hom ose xuality.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:26 pm |
    • sharp as a marble there Cletus

      RE: "Wow, RUSerious. You are so caught up in your own propaganda that you don't realize your response has NOTHING to do with the original point or counterpoint.Re-read and try again."

      Nope. You just can't grasp his point, Cletus. Yer just the kind of member we're lookin' fer in our Wesboro Prayer Grooop. We don't do no thinkin' stuff. Jest hatin' fer Jeeeeeeezus. Love to see you.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:31 pm |
    • golly that has to be straight from gods mouth

      RE: "Now they have taken a stance against what the hand that was feeding them believed, so the Christian community is now a bad influence on the youth? How convenient."
      Good god, you are a dumbfluck. Your 'logic' is like saying if an adopted childs parents turn out to be child-molesters who throw the kid out because he won't go along with their 'ideas'... the kid not only has no right to say anything... the kid should be grateful for what they've 'done for him'? That's about as sharp as a marble, Cletus

      June 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm |
  9. mom of 4

    I am amazed at the ignorance of many of these posts. Especially regarding home schooling. It's obvious many have swallowed the liberal Kool-AId regarding home school education.

    Having said that, I find it interesting that the LGBT is all about "tolerance", and yet refuses to extend tolerance to anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle. They have perpetrated the lie that disagreement means hate. This is abominable. I disagree with my mom on almost everything political, but I love that woman with all my heart. We agree to disagree.

    The LGBT demands acceptance from everyone. This is not freedom, this is tyranny. I will defend anyone's choice to live the way they choose in this country. I have chosen to live as a Christian and I expect my choice to be honored and respected. The LGBT refuses to do so, and that is the height of intolerance. It is a double standard.

    The Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts started out as Christian based organizations over 100 years ago. They have wandered from that original path. I am a former Girl Scout leader, and I cannot in good conscience support this organization anymore. I will not support the Boy Scouts for kowtowing to the LGBT. This is my freedom of choice, and if you want me to respect your life choices, then you darn well better respect mine, or you are a hypocrite.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • RUSerious

      Yes, we should be tolerant of intolerance, right? Nope. People are tired of you loons. Just go colonize another planet where you can live in your fantasy world without screwing up the world any more than you already have.

      June 3, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • ll

      Care to make a stronger us v. them argument there?

      June 3, 2013 at 11:57 am |
    • wrong answer

      Denying equal rights because of something you call “a lifestyle” is hate. Pointing out your hate is not hate. Get that through your thick Neanderthal skull.

      June 3, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • Jon O

      Wrong.

      LGBT people can tolerate you disliking their lifestyle just fine. That's YOU having an OPINION.

      What they cannot tolerate is YOU trying to create LAWS that OPPRESS them and limit the rights they have as Americans.

      I'm sorry if you are too stupid – and clearly you are – to understand the difference between thinking something and then acting on it.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
    • ME II

      @mom of 4,
      "I find it interesting that the LGBT is all about "tolerance", and yet refuses to extend tolerance to anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle. They have perpetrated the lie that disagreement means hate. "

      I disagree. They are not asking for agreement nor acceptance, just equal rights and equal treatment before the law.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
    • snowboarder

      "I find it interesting that the LGBT is all about "tolerance", and yet refuses to extend tolerance to anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle."

      this is a common argument for ignorance. no one is forcing anyone to do anything. the baptists can pull their support and we can ridicule them for their idiocy. pulling all support for a youth organization because the organization decided not to discriminate is indeed hateful. there is no denying it.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • Roger

      "Having said that, I find it interesting that the LGBT is all about "tolerance", and yet refuses to extend tolerance to anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle."

      "Lifestyle"? Because of a certain way that they behave or because of their being born gay??

      June 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • mom of 4

      ...and those pesky colored folk need to stop bothering everyone about equality and human rights!

      June 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • kondorky

      Um. Last I checked, the Boy Scouts of America is and has always been non-demonimational.

      At least it has been the 46 years of my life. What are your sources for saying they are Christian-based?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • GlamRocker

      Your lifestyle is built on a foundation of lies and bigotry. This battle is already won. Calling out hate and viscous behavior will relegate your backwards behavior to your home and not the public square. People that aren't tolerant should be called out and exposed.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
    • ThinkRationally

      "Having said that, I find it interesting that the LGBT is all about "tolerance", and yet refuses to extend tolerance to anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle. They have perpetrated the lie that disagreement means hate. This is abominable. I disagree with my mom on almost everything political, but I love that woman with all my heart. We agree to disagree."
      _______________
      Which rights is the LGBT community trying to take away from you with their "tyranny"? Does your mother suffer from a lack of equality because you disagree with her? Your analogies are silly.

      The LGBT community is seeking equality with the rest of the population. This is not intolerance. You can disagree with them, but when you attempt restrict their equal rights then it is you are being intolerant. Do you expect them to just take that and say nothing? You clearly wouldn't, as you accuse them of intolerance just for seeking equality.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'They have perpetrated the lie that disagreement means hate.'

      well you kind of show us your cards when you start off making comments about 'drinking the liberal kool-aid'.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
    • The Church

      Pay no mind to this 'mom of 4'. She has forgotten that she is only a woman and as such, has no place speaking out about such things in public. When her husband comes home from work, he'll be sure to put her in her place, and it won't happen again now will it mom of 4?

      Sincerely,
      Pastor Rick

      June 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
    • Joey

      You respect gays so much that you don't want to associate with them, and don't want your kids to be anywhere near them, and we are somehow supposed to think that you don't hate them? Get real.

      June 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
  10. R. King

    This will likely kill off the Boy Scouts.

    And I'm OK with that.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:50 am |
    • Topher

      Typical atheist wanting to kill off all the boy scouts. CNN needs to report this user for inciting violence.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • midwest rail

      " Typical" ? Really, Topher ?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • Roger

      Gee Topher – comprehension problem?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      I agree... The BS are gay anyway(and not in a good way). Those uniforms are so 1930's tacky. Besides, I can manage to find stale crappy popcorn without you harassing me at every Walmart and grocery store in VA.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      This will not kill off the Boy Scouts.
      Canada, Australia, Sweden, UK and Germany all include gay people, and they are doing just fine.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:20 pm |
  11. patrick Matthews

    It is GOOD that the Church get out of social groups, and stay in CHURCH where they belong. The Scouts will be better off without the CHURCHES, and their fundamentalism effecting chidrne's minds.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:49 am |
  12. RUSerious

    Omg, are you serious???? More bigotry and intolerance from Christians?? Say it isn't so! /sarcasm... most hypocritical religion ever. Now all we need is that Atheist Is Harmful To Children nutcase to chime in.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:48 am |
  13. XanJester

    Funny how those silly pastors always pick and choose their bible verses to fit their ignorant views. The bible also says he who is without sin should cast the first stone. It also says not to judge lest ye be judged. Those are 2 versus that tell us not to persecute a person who is gay but to let them be judged by god. There are others that tell you to love sinners and if they should slap you on one cheek to offer them the other. There are so many verses that say this pastor is wrong to be so judgmental and vengeful and 0 that say he is right for persecuting people.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:48 am |
  14. Science

    Come on Chad ............from 134.............asked chadie if he is the IF guy.................are you chadie ?

    June 3, 2013 at 11:47 am |
  15. Reality

    JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.")

    Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694.

    Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

    Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Many contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospel being mostly fiction.

    Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

    So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher/magic man would do or say?

    June 3, 2013 at 11:44 am |
    • kondorky

      Because it is right and good to do so.

      Next question?

      June 3, 2013 at 11:54 am |
    • Valentina

      You sound jealous. Guess the reality has set in that few, if any, will remember you after your dead.

      June 3, 2013 at 11:55 am |
  16. Reality

    From the Philadelphia Inquirer review “Gay Gene, Deconstructed”, 12/12/2011. Said review addresses the following “How do genes associated with ho-mose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?”

    "Most scientists who study human se-xuality agree that gay people are born that way. But that consensus raises an evolutionary puzzle: How do genes associated with h-omose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?"

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/evolution/Gay-gene-deconstructed.html

    June 3, 2013 at 11:42 am |
    • JRNY

      Actually hom*s*xuality would be right in there with Darwin's theory of evolution. When a species is overpopulated, nature creates something in that "animal" that slows down it's reproduction...example: During the winter, if there isn't enough food for the deer in an area, the females will automatically go sterile the following Spring.
      Being gay is helping society and its overpopulation.

      June 3, 2013 at 11:51 am |
    • ME II

      @JRNY,
      "When a species is overpopulated, nature creates something in that "animal" that slows down it's reproduction...example:"

      Not sure of the details of this particular case, but I would say that nature won't "create" something to address a particular threat. There may be a beneficial / survival aspect to a particular trait which therefore gets propagated, but it doesn't occur because of a need. Small but significant difference.

      June 3, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • JRNY

      Well MEII I was unaware that you knew everything in the world. Wow, thank you! I'll sleep much better tonight knowing that!!!

      June 3, 2013 at 11:57 am |
  17. Acceptance!

    This Says It ALL!!

    Poll Finds Majority Acceptance of Gays From the B-ball Court to the Boy Scouts

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/poll-finds-majority-acceptance-of-gays-from-the-b-ball-court-to-the-boy-scouts/

    June 3, 2013 at 11:42 am |
  18. Kevin

    Awesome! Now the Boy Scouts will be able to dance as well!

    June 3, 2013 at 11:40 am |
  19. Steve

    Good riddance to a bunch of hypocritical, out of touch lying folks that have no room for dialogue it would appear. Closed minds don't allow for a common sense approach to change. I was raised in the baptist church in Texas. Luckily I escaped both after graduation from High School then venturing out and seeing the real world.

    I see no difference between these folks that flock to their big churches on Sunday to listen to the man in the pulpit spew his non-sense and make believe stories and radical muslims that spew their backward beliefs.

    They should also be taxed as the business they are especially sense they continue to meddle in politics and try to tell everyone else how to live.

    Leave, go and get out of the way. We are moving forward with or without your presence.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • AmericanPatriot

      All those that put the rights of gays ahead of the rights of the religious are typical, angry, hypocritical liberal drones. If parents don't want their children exposed to the immoral, un-natural acts of the gays, it is their choice as Americans to keep them out.. At the end of the day, the Boy Scouts will be left with just the gays and will be relabeled Girl Scouts – which is what they will be.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
    • Roger

      "un-natural acts of the gays"

      Wow – get some education AmPat.

      June 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'If parents don't want their children exposed to the immoral, un-natural acts of the gays'

      you expecting gay love ins at the boy scouts now huh?

      June 3, 2013 at 12:18 pm |
  20. Trix

    I don't mind faith, but asking people to be flat-out ignorant is ridiculous.

    June 3, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Silly Rabbit!

      June 3, 2013 at 11:47 am |
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