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Atheists to start 1-800 hotline for doubters
The group Recovering from Religion plans to start a helpline for people struggling with religious doubts.
June 4th, 2013
03:08 PM ET

Atheists to start 1-800 hotline for doubters

By Dan Merica, CNN
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(CNN) – Who can people call when religious doubts arise, but they're afraid to talk to their faith leaders or families?

A group that helps people "recover" from religion says it's ready to pick up the phone.

Recovering from Religion, which has about 40 support groups in the U.S. and Britain, plans to launch a hotline that will offer doubters an anonymous place to ask difficult questions and find communities of like-minded nonbelievers.

The group plans to staff the help line 24 hours a day and is modeling it after services like suicide prevention hotlines.

Sarah Morehead, executive director of Recovering from Religion, told CNN that the mission is to help people, not convert them to atheism.

“A lot of the times they just need someone to talk to," Morehead said.

The 1-800 number has yet to be named. Recovering from Religion is trying to raise $30,000 by June 30 to fund "The Hotline Project" with up to 40 counselors.

Ideally, the help line would be live by the holiday season, said Morehead, which is often a difficult time for people struggling with religious doubts.

Photos: Famous atheists and their beliefs

The idea for the hotline sprang up after calls came in to the Recovering from Religion phone line from people who were questioning their faith and needed to talk to someone. Morehead said she gets a few calls every day and hundreds of e-mails a month from people seeking counseling.

From there, she said, it seemed a hotline that provided a permanent, anonymous place to talk to someone was the best option.

"Coming out" as a nonbeliever - or even a doubter - can often be extremely difficult, Morehead and others say. In addition to the existential worries, budding nonbelievers run the risk of alienating family and friends.

The help line’s volunteer counselors will be trained to not engage in religious debate, Morehead said. Instead, they will try to give callers “practical, action-oriented solutions.”

When someone first calls the hotline, the counselor will start by simply asking the caller to talk about his or her personal story, said Morehead.

Later, the counselor and the caller might work on an action plan. The caller's goals may concern formally leaving religion altogether, but Morehead said that counselors will also offer advice on finding a new faith or connecting with a local community of nonbelievers.

Some blogs have questioned the hotline, however, calling it a ploy to increase the number of atheists in America.

Headlines like “New 1-800 Number Funded By Liberals To Convert Christians to Atheists,” for example, have cropped up at a number of conservative blogs.

Morehead said her critics fail to grasp the point of Recovering from Religion.

“Most of the people who contact us are working their way towards disbelief, so of course we are very equipped to handle that,” Morehead said. “That is not the goal, though, or the job of the facilitators.”

Photos: 'Born-again' celebrities

This hotline is not completely unique in the world of religious "nones" – people who either don’t believe in God or don’t affiliate with any religious beliefs. Atheists have long discussed disbelief in the comfort of online anonymity.

“We have seen how important the Internet is, especially young people questioning their faith, and this provides them with another resource with a different focus,” said Jesse Galef, communications director for the Secular Student Alliance. “For people who want more guidance, I think this resource will be very valuable.”

Services that help religious doubters have thrived recently.

The Clergy Project, an online community for preachers who no longer believe in God, has grown from 52 to nearly 500 people since its founding in 2011, said Teresa MacBain, the former executive director of the project.

MacBain, a former pastor who converted to atheism, called the help line "another way for people to contact someone anonymously and discuss the struggles they are having for their beliefs.”

“If this project had been around when I found the Clergy Project, I would have used it.”

MacBain said she plans to get training as one of the counselors and hopes to be answering calls when the service launches.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • United States

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  1. Salero21

    Hello there atheist!! Here again to remind you all that atheism is stupidity in Full bloom.

    June 18, 2013 at 3:41 pm |
    • His panic

      😀 😀 😀

      June 18, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
    • EX catholic

      That's right! 😉 😀

      June 18, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
    • My name is Bond

      STFU SALERO you are making me bloody mad this time!!!

      June 18, 2013 at 3:45 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Yawn.

      June 20, 2013 at 1:40 am |
  2. Salero21

    Hello there atheist!! Just touching with you people once again. To remind you all that atheism is stupidity in Full bloom.

    June 18, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
  3. Salero21

    Hello there atheist!! Just touching-up base with you people once again. To remind you all that atheism is stupidity in Full bloom.

    June 18, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
  4. Salero21

    Hello there atheist!! Just touching base with you people. To remind you once again that atheism is indeed stupidity in Full bloom.

    June 18, 2013 at 3:38 pm |
  5. GOOD NEWS

    Atheists, Agnostics, or Doubters,

    need help?

    GOD absolutely exists, and truly cares for you.

    http://www.holy-19-arvest.com
    UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES

    June 18, 2013 at 5:16 am |
  6. Hello

    Read Caesar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill.. check out his web site for YouTube videos and Audios of his discovery on who wrote the bible and why.

    June 18, 2013 at 4:46 am |
  7. faith

    horus was their best effort to date.

    lol

    fsm # 2

    June 17, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
  8. faith

    0-0=atheism

    lol

    June 17, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
  9. faith

    0

    June 17, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
  10. Dyslexic doG

    There was a knock at my door. A pleasant and enthusiastic young couple were there.

    John: "Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."

    Mary: "Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."

    Me: "Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who's Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?"

    John: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the guts out of you."

    Me: "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"

    John: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."

    Me: "That doesn't make any sense. Why..."

    Mary: "Who are you to question Hank's gift? Don't you want a million dollars? Isn't it worth a little kiss on the ass?"

    Me: "Well maybe, if it's legit, but..."

    John: "Then come kiss Hank's ass with us."

    Me: "Do you kiss Hank's ass often?"

    Mary: "Oh yes, all the time..."

    Me: "And has He given you a million dollars?"

    John: "Well no. You don't actually get the money until you leave town."

    Me: "So why don't you just leave town now?"

    Mary: "You can't leave until Hank tells you to, or you don't get the money, and He kicks the guts out of you."

    Me: "Do you know anyone who kissed Hank's ass, left town, and got the million dollars?"

    John: "My mother kissed Hank's ass for years. She left town last year, and I'm sure she got the money."

    Me: "Haven't you talked to her since then?"

    John: "Of course not, Hank doesn't allow it."

    Me: "So what makes you think He'll actually give you the money if you've never talked to anyone who got the money?"

    Mary: "Well, maybe you'll get a raise, maybe you'll win a small lotto, maybe you'll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street."

    Me: "What's that got to do with Hank?"

    John: "In this town, Hank is the same as good luck. All good things are attributed to Hank'"

    Me: "I'm sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game."

    John: "But it's a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass He'll kick the guts out of you."

    Me: "Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from Him..."

    Mary: "No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank."

    Me: "Then how do you kiss His ass?"

    John: "Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl's ass, and he passes it on."

    Me: "Who's Karl?"

    Mary: "A friend of ours. He's the one who taught us all about kissing Hank's ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times."

    Me: "And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss His ass, and that Hank would reward you?"

    John: "Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here's a copy; see for yourself."

    From the Desk of Karl
    1. Kiss Hank's ass and He'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
    2. Use alcohol in moderation.
    3. Kick the guts out of people who aren't like you.
    4. Eat right.
    5. Hank dictated this list Himself.
    6. The moon is made of green cheese.
    7. Everything Hank says is right.
    8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
    9. Don't use alcohol.
    10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
    11. Kiss Hank's ass or He'll kick the guts out of you.

    Me: "This appears to be written on Karl's letterhead."

    Mary: "Hank didn't have any paper."

    Me: "I have a hunch that if we checked we'd find this is Karl's handwriting."

    John: "Of course, Hank dictated it."

    Me: "I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?"

    Mary: "Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people."

    Me: "I thought you said He was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the guts out of people just because they're different?"

    Mary: "It's what Hank wants, and Hank's always right."

    Me: "How do you figure that?"

    Mary: "Item 7 says 'Everything Hank says is right.' That's good enough for me!"

    Me: "Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up."

    John: "No way! Item 5 says 'Hank dictated this list himself.' Besides, item 2 says 'Use alcohol in moderation,' Item 4 says 'Eat right,' and item 8 says 'Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.' Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too."

    Me: "But 9 says 'Don't use alcohol.' which doesn't quite go with item 2, and 6 says 'The moon is made of green cheese,' which is just plain wrong."

    John: "There's no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you've never been to the moon, so you can't say for sure."

    Me: "Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock..."

    Mary: "But they don't know if the rock came from the Earth, or from out of space, so it could just as easily be green cheese."

    Me: "I'm not really an expert, but not knowing where the rock came from doesn't make it plausible that it might be made of cheese."

    John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists don’t know everything, but we know Hank is always right!"

    Me: "We do?"

    Mary: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."

    Me: "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"

    John: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."

    Me: "But...oh, never mind.

    from Jhuger.com

    June 17, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • Science

      Dyslexic doG

      Agree science is really wild (Myth Busters) but the truth

      June 17, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
    • science

      Afternoon Dyslexic doG

      Just cut one of the chondrites brought home from the shack ............some of the coolest chondrules I have seen !

      June 17, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
    • Science

      A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.............after post way to funny !

      June 17, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • Science

      Way to funny sooner or later the bugs will get worked out !

      Rotten eggs too thought it was the old chicken coop of Grandpas we pushed into the swamp !

      http://phys.org/news/2013-04-feast-clue-ancient-earth.html

      http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/04/tiny-1900-million-year-old-fossils-from-rocks-around-lake-superior-canada-2581584.html
      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/14/superman-coming-to-a-church-near-you/#comments

      Additional Hang Signature 5: d726b565d9ab2dd1531f34020c61b168
      Additional Hang Signature 6: 59cc
      Additional Hang Signature 7: 59cc1586f0d793a721ef7510d92e738b

      June 17, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Science

      Morning Dyslexic doG AND it is so entertaining ..........compass and GPS too.

      Hey fake science poster chew on native iron stones all your life...............it drives the medical tests nuts !

      19. Solar nebula (repeat)
      Most meteorites are very old, as old as the solar system (4.6 billion years). Because meteorites haven't changed much since then, they are the best clues we have to the origin and history of the solar system and of the Earth. (Painting by Don Dixon, NASA JSC photo S76-25001)

      http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/education/SlideSets/ExpMetMys/Slides35-42.htm

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority/comment-page-118/#comment-2423783

      June 19, 2013 at 9:05 am |
    • Science

      Great entertainment !

      Hey faithy...the troll.....all creationists...........chadie too ...............COMEDY GOLD links at bottom of post !!!

      The pesky meteorites/chondrites = life .........................not the nasty bible. and Adam and his bone.

      No horn-y red beast needed.......no heaven either..........but they (meteorites) where hot when they where coming in.

      Life-Producing Phosphorus Carried to Earth by Meteorites

      June 4, 2013 — Scientists may not know for certain whether life exists in outer space, but new research from a team of scientists led by a University of South Florida astrobiologist now shows that one key element that produced life on Earth was carried here on meteorites.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130604153520.htm

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/23/heaven-for-atheists-pope-sparks-debate/#comments

      And faithy chew on native iron stones all your life...............it drives the medical tests nuts !

      19. Solar nebula (repeat)
      Most meteorites are very old, as old as the solar system (4.6 billion years). Because meteorites haven't changed much since then, they are the best clues we have to the origin and history of the solar system and of the Earth. (Painting by Don Dixon, NASA JSC photo S76-25001)

      http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/education/SlideSets/ExpMetMys/Slides35-42.htm

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority/

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/04/atheists-to-start-1-800-hotline/comment-page-27/#comments

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/09/my-take-a-word-to-christians-be-nice/comment-page-44/#comments

      June 19, 2013 at 11:04 am |
    • Science

      Hey creationists ..........fred and chadie too no horn-y red beast or heaven.........just falling skies.

      New Research Backs Genetic 'Switches' in Human Evolution

      June 19, 2013 — A Cornell University study offers further proof that the divergence of humans from chimpanzees some 4 million to 6 million years ago was profoundly influenced by mutations to DNA sequences that play roles in turning genes on and off.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130619091319.htm

      June 19, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
  11. jboom

    Any serious atheist or theist will want to check out "Signature in the Cell"

    "I just finished reading this. Six months ago I read Richard Dawkins', The Greatest Show on Earth. Stephen C. Meyer not only comes across as more "scientific", reasoned and logical than Dawkins, he is infinitely more humble and rational. Instead of verbally jumping up and down with clenched fists while spewing invectives, Meyer calmly and carefully lays out each argument and addresses the competing origin of life theories with respect and grace. If Dawkins had spent as much time researching as he spent with his thesaurus he'd probably have written one of the endorsements on this book's cover.

    This book could have easily been only a couple hundred pages. The reason it's over 500 with 50 pages of meticulous notes is both a testimony to the unreasonableness of Meyer's critics and tribute to how gently he tries to make his point. This is a work of great courage, intelligence and compassion."

    June 16, 2013 at 1:56 am |
    • jboom

      "The theory does not challenge the idea of evolution defined as change over time or even common ancestry, but it does dispute the Darwinian idea that the cause of all biological change is wholly blind and undirected. Even so, the theory is not based on biblical doctrine. Intelligent design is an inference from scientific evidence, not a deduction from religious authority."

      Meyer, Stephen C. 0 "Signature in the Cell"

      June 16, 2013 at 2:13 am |
    • Science

      No divine designer needed or horn-y red beast.

      Video animation: RNA interference

      http://www.nature.com/nrg/multimedia/rnai/animation/index.html

      June 16, 2013 at 6:22 am |
    • jboom

      Science, your video is a red herring, it said nothing to address the evidence discussed in "Signature of the Cell".
      Why would you post something so irrelevant?

      June 16, 2013 at 10:55 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      The above glowing review is by Randall L. Doser aka "jack of all trades." Does anyone know this Preston's credentials, other than having posted a review on Anazon?

      Here's what David K. vun Kannon (I haven't got a clue who he is!) concluded his 1star review with:

      "Signature in the Cell is padded with a lot of historical information. Dr Meyer can claim that it is included to show that he is giving every argument a fair opportunity. Exactly the opposite is true. In chapter 14, pp 296-297, Meyer recounts an exchange with Dr Kenneth Miller over his coverage of the RNA world in an article from 2000. The article, DNA and Other Designs, is still available on the Discovery Inst!tute web site. I recommend reading it, since it says just about everything that Meyer says in this large book, and for free.

      But just as Signature in the Cell recapitulates and expands on that article, it recapitulates the error of that article as well. As Dr Miller complained in 2000, Stephen Meyer lies by omission by "not having the space" to mention 20 years worth of research in the RNA World hypothesis. Now it is 28 years, and the page count of Signature in the Cell spent on long forgotten theories crowds out discussion of current theories and work that directly undercuts the main ideas of the book. There is no mention of the work of Michael Yarus' lab, no mention of the stereochemical hypothesis in the origin of the genetic code.

      This is the key work that Meyer has to come to grips with if his whole facade of looking into every possibility is to have any credibility at all. It might be an acceptible debating technique to dodge your opponents best arguments until the time runs out, but that kind of rope-a-dope argumentation isn't science.

      That is the bottom line verdict on this book. It is not looking at everything and arguing to the best explanation. It is picking and choosing, retelling lots of old stories, personal stories, and some basic science, while avoiding the experiments and evidence that would challenge ID, and collapse its claim to be the best explanation of anything in the universe larger than Stephen Meyer's paycheck. ID explains that perfectly well."

      June 16, 2013 at 11:14 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Sorry – "Preston's" above should be "person's."

      June 16, 2013 at 11:16 pm |
    • Science

      to yank your chain chad !

      June 17, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • Science

      And lol??/jboom you are the fruitiest of them ALL.............no horn-y red beast needed.

      You know geology and chondrites too brought 4 new/old chondrites home from the shack in the woods yesterday too.

      New 'Embryonic' Subduction Zone Found

      June 17, 2013 — A new subduction zone forming off the coast of Portugal heralds the beginning of a cycle that will see the Atlantic Ocean close as continental Europe moves closer to America.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130617104614.htm

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority/?replytocom=2407952#respond

      June 17, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • Science

      Hey jboom/HS

      Way to funny lately as my browser has been crashing on a regular basis...............has to be getting hot in the comment

      section ?

      Cause every time I recover script for comment section a PING goes to Ping to help recover comment and page..........

      LMAO

      June 17, 2013 at 2:16 pm |
    • Science

      Oops the second ping is suppose to be Microsoft .

      Remember surf with cookies off !

      June 17, 2013 at 2:18 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      jboom, If you believe that I've got some seafront property in Arizona to sell. Interested?

      June 18, 2013 at 9:41 pm |
    • Science

      Hey jboom where is dot/chad/................or is maximo or even L4H ?

      June 20, 2013 at 7:12 am |
  12. Joey Isotta-Fraschini, D.D. ©™

    The hotline for persons who are beginning to see through the God-lie and liberate themselves is a wonderful idea. Providing this service is a great contribution to society.

    June 16, 2013 at 1:03 am |
  13. jboom

    "Our universe and its laws appear to have a design that both is tailor-made to support us and, if we are to exist, leaves little room for alteration. That is not easily explained, ... "
    – Stephen Hawking, 2010

    June 15, 2013 at 9:38 pm |
  14. Anon

    It's simple, christards are fúcked up in the head since the cradle and upwards while Jesus if the mofo actually existed was an egocentric piece of shít.

    June 15, 2013 at 12:13 am |
    • Hello

      Read Caesar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill... on who wrote the bible and why...
      HINT: it is a Roman joke book.

      June 18, 2013 at 4:41 am |
    • Anon

      Oh I completely get that the bible is a complete myth aka farce, but the question is will the believers ever realize it?

      June 18, 2013 at 9:36 pm |
  15. laststonecarver

    Consider for a moment, that religion may be a form of a mass hypnotic state –
    That a shiny cross is swaying rhythmically, a soft spoken voice murmuring bible verse, the suggestion of a heaven and hEll, and of a saving grace.......you are falling asleep.... asleep... you are now a Christian.....You must copy and paste religious verses on the internet – there is no need to know what you believe, it is enough that you just believe....

    When I click my fingers, you will awaken and only remember that you should have faith in (optional supreme being) –
    Click... Click....
    Blink.. Blink.. I must have fallen asleep –
    I feel an unusual craving for some religious text –
    must have religion, must save everyone –

    June 14, 2013 at 7:29 am |
    • Science

      aststonecarver

      Do they dance in their trance ?

      To funny.

      I know of one that does a good polka.

      June 14, 2013 at 7:42 am |
    • laststonecarver

      BTW consumption is like that also – like religion –
      What you consume both physically and mentally, makes you who you are –
      Don't be hypnotized by the news – or politicians –
      Think for yourself, don't just be led – don't be sheeple –
      Don't end up having to call the atheist hotline –

      June 14, 2013 at 7:48 am |
    • Science

      Oops missed the l .......laststonecarver.

      June 14, 2013 at 7:49 am |
    • laststonecarver

      @Science,
      Good day to you!
      Good day for exploring our own parts of the world, again, Aye? –

      June 14, 2013 at 7:56 am |
    • Science

      laststonecarver.................not a problem for me................. no hot line needed..............I have consumed to much carbon

      dust (star dust) from cutting to many chondrites.

      Peace

      PS the green slime takes over when left outside in water and a mason jar.

      June 14, 2013 at 7:56 am |
    • Science

      laststonecarver

      And 1900 million year fossils found... about 45 minutes north (as the crow flies) of the shack where the chondrites are

      found >

      Scientists Offer First Definitive Proof of Bacteria-Feeding Behavior in Green Algae

      Life on Earth Shockingly Comes from out of This World

      Life-Producing Phosphorus Carried to Earth by Meteorites

      Ancient Egyptians Accessorized With Meteorites

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/fossils_ruins/2/

      June 14, 2013 at 8:17 am |
    • Science

      Oops the big bang. .........an asteroid that flattened Mars aye .

      Martian Clay Contains Chemical Implicated in the Origin of Life,

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130610220132.htm

      June 14, 2013 at 9:00 am |
  16. Reality

    To summarize again with one more hotline from 1000 CE.

    Death's Debt is Paid in
    Full

    Death's debt is then and there
    Paid down by dying men;

    But it is a promise bare
    That they shall rise again. "

    Al-Ma'arri

    June 13, 2013 at 12:54 pm |
  17. Science

    Hey HS............you are really full of BS ....................how many years ago ?

    High Diversity of Flying Reptiles in England 110 Million Years Ago

    June 12, 2013 — Brazilian paleontologists Taissa Rodrigues, of the Federal University of Espirito Santo, and Alexander W. A. Kellner, of the National Museum of the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, have just presented the most extensive review yet available of toothed pterosaurs from the Cretaceous of England. The study features detailed taxonomic information, diagnoses and photographs of 30 species and was published in the open access journal ZooKeys.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130612101853.htm

    June 13, 2013 at 5:58 am |
  18. Felix Sinclair

    Why won't the invisible man in the sky show up to fight his own battles? Wuss.

    June 12, 2013 at 10:01 pm |
  19. Bob

    Since we've still got HeavenStench dumping quotes on us from her horrid Christian book of nasty, let's take a look at what's really in her book of horrors. From both foul testaments, and note the comment about context:

    Numbers 31:17-18
    17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
    18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

    Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

    Leviticus 25
    44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
    45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
    46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

    Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

    Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

    And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

    So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

    Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement.
    Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    June 12, 2013 at 9:12 pm |
    • Hello

      Read Caesar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill.. check out his web site for youTube videos and Audios of his discovery on who wrote the bible and why.

      June 18, 2013 at 4:45 am |
  20. HeavenSent

    Bob, still rejecting all that I POST so you have something destructive to do?

    (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

    2 Corinthians 10:4

    Amen.

    June 12, 2013 at 9:10 pm |
    • Bob

      Above we have yet another instance of the excessively violent nature of the foul sky creature that HeavenStench's evil bible describes. Since we've still got HeavenStench dumping quotes on us from her horrid Christian book of nasty, let's take a look at what's really in her book of horrors. From both foul testaments, and note the comment about context:

      Numbers 31:17-18
      17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
      18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

      Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

      Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

      Leviticus 25
      44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
      45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
      46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

      Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

      Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

      And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

      So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

      Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement.
      Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
      http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

      June 12, 2013 at 9:15 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Atheists whining about something/anything is breathing for them. LOL.

      June 12, 2013 at 10:09 pm |
    • Science

      Hey HS chirping won't get you anywhere...........but eaten by the truth.

      Discovery Channel – Prehistoric New york

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj0cP3A9FFc

      June 15, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • Science

      Hey HS 1900 million year old fossil to the north of my geological and Pre- Historic Woolys to the East of the stones ,

      with a big old swamp pit in the middle and I have not been able to find a bottom................Grandpa couldn't either.

      Sort of reminds me of the tar pits maybe ?

      June 15, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
    • Science

      Oops ..............geological location............history question HS how old IS the US ?

      June 15, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • Science

      Come on HS do you have a clue on an answer about how old the United States are ?

      June 17, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • Science

      Hey HS......................do you know or the math to hard ?

      June 18, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
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