Church without God - by design
Members of an atheist congregation at Harvard listen to music during a recent gathering.
June 22nd, 2013
11:25 AM ET

Church without God - by design

By Dan Merica, CNN
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Boston (CNN)-– It’s Sunday in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and a rapt congregation listens to a chaplain preach about the importance of building a community.

A few dozen people sit quietly for the hourlong service. Music is played, announcements are made and scholars wax poetic about the importance of compassion and community.

Outsiders could be forgiven for believing this service, with its homilies, its passing of the plate, its uplifting songs, belongs in a church.

If so, it’s a church without one big player: God.

Sunday’s congregation in Cambridge is a meeting of the Humanist Community at Harvard University and the brainchild of Greg Epstein, the school’s Humanist chaplain.

A longtime advocate for community building, Epstein and his group of atheists have begun to build their Cambridge community and solemnize its Sunday meetings to resemble a traditional religious service.

To Epstein, religion is not all bad, and there is no reason to reject its helpful aspects.

“My point to my fellow atheists is, why do we need to paint things with such a broad brush? We can learn from the positive while learning how to get rid of the negative," he said.

Godless congregations

For Epstein, who started community-building at Harvard nearly 10 years ago, the idea of a godless congregation is not an oxymoron.

“We decided recently that we want to use the word congregation more and more often because that is a word that strongly evokes a certain kind of community - a really close knit, strong community that can make strong change happen in the world,” he said.

“It doesn’t require and it doesn't even imply a specific set of beliefs about anything.”

Epstein is not alone in his endeavor. Jerry DeWitt, who became an atheist and left his job as an evangelical minister, is using his pastoral experience to building an atheist church in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

This Sunday, DeWitt's congregation will hold its first meeting as a "Community Mission Chapel."

"When you become a part of this congregation, this community, you are going to become part of a family," DeWitt told CNN. "There is an infrastructure there for you to land in. There is going to be someone there to do weddings and to do, unfortunately, the funerals."

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Sunday school for atheists

As members of the Cambridge congregation file into a wood-paneled classroom at Harvard, singer Shelley Segal greets them with a few songs from her latest recording, called simply, “An Atheist Album.”

Taking a hint from the theme of the event, Segal strums on her guitar and belts her song, “Gratitude.”

“I don't believe in a great power to say thank you to,” Segal sings. “But that won’t take away from my gratitude.”

Harvard's humanist chaplain Greg Epstein leads an atheist gathering.

After the music, Epstein offers a few words of greeting before the meeting gets to its heart: a discussion about compassion.

A four academics and a journalist discuss the effects of religion on raising children and their ideas about compassion. Congregants listen intently, some even taking notes.

Each service has a message – compassion, evolution or acceptance - after which congregants engage in a lengthy discussion.

Before the main event, kids are invited to what some parents refer to as “Sunday school,” where Tony Debono, a biologist Massachusetts Institute of Technology, teaches the youngsters about evolution, DNA and cells.

There's little talk about organized religion, positive or negative.

Likewise, down in Louisiana, said his atheist services will not be anti-religion.

"What we are looking at doing is different," DeWitt said. "If you are a religionist and you come and sit in our pew, the only way you can leave offended is because of what you don’t hear and what you don’t see. We won’t be there to make a stance against religion or against God."

Coming out of the closet

In the last few years, the number of “nones” – those who don’t associate with any organized religion – has grown at a rate faster than any other group. Nones now represent one in five Americans, according to a 2012 Pew Research Center poll.

Although the number of atheists has grown, too, there are still a large number of “nones” that choose not to associate with the label “atheist.”

Some at Harvard’s Humanist congregation fall into this category.

“I don’t particularly have a religion,” said Anil Nyer, a neurologist who brought his daughter to Humanist Sunday school. But Nyer also said he didn’t want to label himself as an atheist.

One reason to shy away from the atheist label: Many Americans hold a negative impression of nonbelievers.

According to a recent Public Religion Research Institute poll, nearly 40 percent of Americans believe that atheists are changing American culture for the worse.

“Whenever we put atheists on a list like this and we compare them to other groups, atheists tend to come in towards the bottom of that list,” said Robert P. Jones is the CEO of Public Religion Research Institute.

“Americans tend to hold a lot of reservations about atheists.”

Epstein hopes his congregation can change that.

By formalizing meetings and building a strong community, the Harvard group hopes it can be a model for other atheist congregations forming around the country.

A group meets during an atheist gathering in Boston.

More atheists may come of the closet if they know a congregation will be there to support them, Epstein said,

“Being an atheist is something we want people to come out and be,” said the Humanist chaplain. “There are so many people, probably millions, who are humanists or atheists or nonreligious in private and nobody knows."

Epstein said he gets e-mails daily from people founding atheist meet-up groups.

“Tulsa, Oklahoma; North Carolina; London; Vancouver, Canada; Houston, Texas,” Epstein said, listing the sources of the most recent e-mails.

“One part of what we are saying is come on out and let your neighbors know” about your disbelief, he said. “It is not going to make you worse of a person, it is going to make you a better person to be more open about who you are.”

Rituals for the irreligious

For the last few years, the Humanist Community at Harvard has operated out of a small three-floor walk-up off the bustling streets of Harvard Square. The walls are littered with posters about atheism – tributes to famed atheists Eddie Izzard, Seth MacFarlane and Stephen Fry.

Because of the scattered furniture and the Harvard dorm feel, Epstein jokingly describes the space as “college broke chic.” That’s being generous – but it's also about to change.

Starting in the fall, the Humanist Community at Harvard will begin meeting in a nearly 3,000-square-foot community center with an event space for nearly 100 people.

Although the plan is to use the space at the group’s headquarters, it will also serve as a broader community center for the group that Epstein and others are trying to build in the Boston area.

“What we really would like to see is a community center where people can come by at anytime and to use it as a space to study or have a meeting for various committee,” said Chris Stedman, the assistant humanist chaplain at Harvard.

Stedman said he sees the new building as a place for people to gather, not only to become part of a humanist community, but to also become more engaged with the world.

When he talks about his plans for the future, Epstein appears to long for a time when the new community center could mimic aspects of church - a place for baby-naming ceremonies, weddings and funerals.

The success of an atheist church will depend on walking the thin line between too much and too little ritual, Epstein said.

Humanists boast a proud freethinking streak, and some at the Harvard event said they don’t want to be associated with any sort of dogma or belief system - or even a system based on disbelief.

Anyway, Esptein said his congregation will be less a group of people united by beliefs - or disbelief - and more like an opera, or a painting.

“Our community is like a work of art," he said. "Hopefully people will respond to that work of art and it will garner controversy and discussion like a work of art."

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Church • Houses of worship • United States

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    December 29, 2013 at 8:50 pm |

    To Epstein, religion is not all bad, and there is no reason to reject its helpful aspects......

    1. First why even call it church?

    2. Why do this on a Sunday?

    3. Why the singing?

    4. Most of everything useful that churches use were taken and reworded good qualities from the early PHILOSOPHERS......there is absolutely no need to pretend or copy any religious organizations rituals.

    5. I as an atheist do not feel compelled to gather with other atheist and chit chat about anything.....I'm one of those that believe that as an atheist I should point out the inconsistencies and contradictions any religious material is loaded with...on a not stopping schedule.....never letting up.

    December 29, 2013 at 11:15 am |
    • leemenjoseph

      Then please point up the inconsistencies and contradictions in the true religion if you're able.

      February 10, 2014 at 8:29 pm |
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        March 10, 2014 at 8:04 pm |
  7. Robert

    A breath of fresh air. It's not important to profess belief, only that as humans we need each other. I wish that believers followed what Jesus said, "Judge not less ye yourself be judged". You see so much diversity in organized religion. I believe that a church that brings people together for positive human fellowship without following some controversial dogma about faith and belief in something that humans can't possibly comprehend, that is "God", is a church I could become a part of. Also no rituals would be awesome.

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    November 26, 2013 at 10:40 pm |

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    October 19, 2013 at 9:07 pm |
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      Your handle does not fit your post. You show extreme arrogance in thinking you know why all atheists do not blindly accept your assertions.

      October 24, 2013 at 3:56 am |
    • Humility


      The others so called aethist, who do not fall in the above are not real aethist, they are paid servants, betraying their brothers and sisters from the GRACE of our LORD, HIS HOLY SPIRIT, for 30 PIECES OF SILVER, getting the reward of betrayal to promote their own self interest. If anyone who has committed this terrible deed, accepts repentance and believe in our LORD's saving GRACE, he will still be forgiven, because our LORD is the LORD of Mercy.

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      Nothing just happens because its the Will or Wisdom of God. It seems God is blamed for everything. Right along with Adam and Eve! It's all the Fault of Life and Essence! As "a way of life" professes "I a Poor Miserable Sinner"! A doctrinaire that Justifies blaming God and Adam and Eve for the very pain and suffering it came to Authorize. As a "Way of Life"!

      November 23, 2013 at 11:52 am |
      • Humility


        Adam and Eve if you read the Bible lost the Grace of God and was sent out of the Garden of Eden. This is the Word of God not mine, see Genesis. If our being away from God is not our first parent's fall because of disobedience, then whose is it? Where you born ahead of Adam and Eve? God is the alpha and omega, therefore He knows what has happened and what is to happen. He has revealed it in the Gospels and Scriptures and the faithful Saints/Apostles in the Grace of the Holy Spirit of God is revealing the TRUTH till the coming of the LORD.

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        "Faith is belief without evidence. Evolution theory is backed by plenty of evidence". First off, much less evidence than is usually believed. Secondly, there is plenty of evidence to support the Christian worldview. It just gets scoffed at or blown off because it doesn't fit with the idea that humans can know everything

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          So present some evidence that there is a god. What humans know contradicts all creation myths so why continue to believe them?

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          Evolution theory is backed by plenty of evidence; there may be some gaps but it is the only credible explanation and generally considered fact.
          Humans can't know everything and yet you claim to know the mind of a being that, if it exists, hasn't been seen since the Big Bang.

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          No, there is little evidence to support the christian worldview, thanks for being ignorant to facts though.

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      No religion has ever defined what Truth is although one would think that Truth would be religions most important productl; but it is not. So if Truth is of so little importance to religion then what is IMPORTANT! to religion? The only rational answer to that question is LIE’S!

      September 14, 2013 at 9:16 pm |
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        So being an atheist defines what truth is?

        September 15, 2013 at 9:25 am |
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          All an Atheist is comes down to the denial of theistic claims of the existence of a god or gods. Everyone is an Atheist to a degree...you deny the existence of other gods, so you are an Atheist in that sense.

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  20. joem789

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    Back then, the church was intolerant of Sin. Therefore, when people did get together there, they shared the same intolerance for Sin. And because of their soberness, they were likely to take the Bible more seriously. This is unlike today's churches, were tolerance is always in place. Worldly people flock there once a week to do their dance, fill up the offering plate, and then go back to their enslaved, but chosen lives. They are what the Bible refers to as fools and hypocrites.

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    Society was designed by greed. Because we never needed society to begin with. At one time, people were far more self reliant. It took a greedy liar to break the status quo by tricking people into making him the middle man. Rich people are just stand-betweens that get free resources. Overall, they hog the world's resources. And they aren't unlimited.

    GOD cannot be in a person's life unless the seed is planted and grows. The root must be grounded in a place that isn't worldly. Regardless of where the plant may crawl to later. We basically shun society. But we later extend ourselves toward it for the sake of bringing others out of the world life. This is how to live a godly life of INTOLERANCE FOR SIN. Westboro church is a worldly church that has misinterpreted what intolerance means. They think it means a showing of hatred. They are FOOLS.

    Intolerance means to reject the ways of the world in favor of keeping the ways of GOD. Churches are tolerant. Meaning they accept the ways of the world without changing anything. They have diluted the Bible to selective passages to accomodate society. They are setting a VERY bad example for GOD by recruiting people to tolerate society.

    The hypocritical thing about it all is when you look at the proper way to raise children. The earliest part of their lives are the most important. Because roots are sprouting. So we are to raise them in the way they should go. A perfect opportunity to raise a godly person who doesn't use society to find God.

    In the "Off The Grid" life, many virtues are found. All because of the lack of burdens of society. Money is needed far less. So you spend much more time working to sustain yourself, having peace, contentment, and time. You become far wiser this way. This is how GOD is found. He is fully compatible with His natural world. Hence the reason why society works hard every day to cover it up. And when you CHOOSE to partake in the ways of society, you are as guilty as society. People would rather live the modern life because they aren't willing to self sacrifice the way Jesus did. And He told us to.

    They want to keep their luxury goods. Shiny cars, swimming pools, technological gadgets, big fancy home, and social status. Fine. It is their choice. but they will not find GOD as long as they do. In His eyes, you are choosing wealth. And these people think that donating money saves them. FYI, there is no assurance that anyone will go to Heaven. Smugness is the opposite of humility. Thus, it is important that we do not know what God plans to do with us after we leave here. So plan to earn His forgiveness till the day you die.

    I recommend you read lots of 18th and 19th century literature. Not mainstream. But journals and magazines. You will find many of them at libraries and Google Books. And you will be enlightened by a different perspective that is no longer seen by today's generation. We are now living during a time of complete deception. And the doorway out is very small. The churces are no longer the way. They once were. But the Bible has already told us they would all fall away. And they have. They are lost.

    September 11, 2013 at 3:02 pm |
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