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Satanists square off on abortion (Yes, really)
The UK Church of Satan says it supports a variety of views on abortion. But is the church real?
July 9th, 2013
03:27 PM ET

Satanists square off on abortion (Yes, really)

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)- Are Satanists for or against abortion? Apparently, there's a hot debate.

A group calling itself the "UK Church of Satan" on Twitter says it's open minded, tweeting out "Why Wouldn't Satanism be pro-life?" on July 5.

But the High Priest of the New York-based Church of Satan says it's squarely in the abortion-rights corner.

How to settle this diabolical duel?

Let's back up first.

As Texas legislators debated a law last week that would restrict abortions in the Lone Star State, a group of abortion rights protesters tried to drown out a group of anti-abortion protesters at the state capitol by chanting "Hail Satan!"

The phrase trended on Twitter. Megapastor Rick Warren rapped our wrists (and The Associated Press's, too) for not covering the "Hail Satan" serenade. Actually, pastor, our man Josh Rubin was on the ball.

The UK Church of Satan (assuming it's real) jumped on the trend, tweeting on July 3:

Which raises the question: What does Satanism represent?

We asked the New York-based Church of Satan, and we got an earful.

First of all, Magus Peter H. Gilmore, High Priest of the Church of Satan, told us, there is no "UK Church of Satan."

"I have not authorized any of our UK members to create such a thing claiming to represent our organization, its members and our philosophy," Gilmore said. "So, whoever is behind that feed is committing a fraud."

Gilmore's group, which, unlike the UK church, has a website, also keeps a P.O. Box in New York City. (Radio City Station of all places. Watch out, Rockettes.)

As a matter of policy, the Church of Satan doesn't give out exact membership numbers, the magus said, but it's in the thousands.

"Our organization, founded by Anton LaVey in 1966, is worldwide," Gilmore told CNN in an e-mail, "and we have many members throughout the UK and none of them have heard of any self-proclaimed 'Church of Satan in England.' There was a hoax using a title like this a year or so ago as a political prank."

We put the question to the UK Church of Satan,  who said, "There is no 'UK' Church of Satan. It's worldwide. We represent and connect those followers 'in' the UK."

We've followed up with more questions but haven't heard back yet.

To be sure, the UK Satanists' tweets have been surprisingly unsulfurous.

Take this one, for example:

Or this sweet-natured nugget:

This is a church that worships the Prince of Darkness? And who in hell is JMG?

Getting back to abortion, here's what the supposed UK Church of Satan said:

Yeah, kinda, Gilmore told CNN. But there's much more to it than that.

Many Satanists practice "rational birth control," saith Satanism's high priest, leaving matters of personal morality up to individuals.

"We generally consider the use of abortion to be the purview of the woman whose body is carrying the child," Gilmore said. "We consider sexual experiences to be an indulgence between consenting adults that should be taken seriously, particularly when the possibility of pregnancy is concerned."

But the magus didn't appreciate hearing the name of his lord taken in vain.

"Shouting `Hail Satan!' to abortion protesters is both ludicrous and meaningless," said Gilmore, who's led the Church of Satan since 2001. "Only attention-seeking fools would do so."

Unsurprisingly, Satanists take a strong stand on separation of church and state, believing the government "should be entirely secular."

"So religion should neither force upon nor deny an abortion for any woman, in our thinking," Gilmore said. "Freedom with responsibility is the hallmark of civilized behavior to the Satanist."

Now that that's settled, what's the Satanic stance on gay marriage?

***

In a follow-up email, Gilmore made it clear that Satanists don't actually deify Satan. In fact, they're atheist, he said, and use Satan as a "symbol of pride, liberty and individualism."

"If you chose to mock us, then you should have done so based on what our philosophy actually is, rather than on an assumed `horror film' stereotype," the magus said.

Fair criticism. We'll try to improve our coverage of Satanism.

Oh, one more thing. Gilmore said the Church of Satan does approve of same-sex marriage.

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Abortion • Church and state • Culture wars • Satanism

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  1. Fluffy Kittens and Puppies Are Gosh Darned Adorable

    Can you imagine how big of a fit pat robertson or whatever will have if this gets elected?

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/09/anna-wintour-boosts-hillary-clinton-for-2016/?hpt=hp_t2

    July 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
  2. JT

    I hope you all realize that the church of Satan doesn't even believe Satan exists.....

    He's not their leader or anything to them....

    look it up

    July 9, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
  3. Alias

    It is a little surprising that the author of this article did so little research. The actual Satanic religion predates christianity, so all of the anti-jesus crap is just that. Back when the norm was polytheism, there were those who worshipped Satan as he is a diety in the torah. They do not expect their god to do everything for them, as some christian cults want to do. They also give themselves credit for making good things happen in their lives instead of thanking a god for all the hard work they put in. In short, it is as valid a religion as any. It has been portrayed as evil by christians and Hollywood, but when has either of those groups cared about the truth?
    I’m sure you will all go on with your ignorant remarks (Bill Deacon already has), but I find it disappointing that this article didn’t give the Satanists a fair interview and representation.

    July 9, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • JT

      Actually the author did get that part right.

      He said they were formed by Anton LaVey, which doesn't quite pre-date Christianity...

      July 9, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • Alias

      No JT,

      That group was formed by him, not the religion.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
    • Matt

      Lol... Maybe in 200 BC a group of primitive people celebrated Satan as a deity of life. Today, after thousands of years of exposure to the Bible and the New Testament, society recognizes that Satan is the deity associated classically with incarnation of evil. Wanting to celebrate "evil" under the guise of an anthropomorphic philosophy, is really, just a way for young people to express rebellion and sell bad music albums.

      July 9, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
  4. EYE WARSHIP SATIN

    FINALLY.

    SOMETHING I CAN ENJOY.

    July 9, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
  5. Fluffy Kittens and Puppies Are Gosh Darned Adorable

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Satan

    They don't believe in satan. Or gods. You may untangle your undergarments.

    July 9, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      We are still better than them. Colin said so. And he is like god, his opinion is what is fact.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
    • Fluffy Kittens and Puppies Are Gosh Darned Adorable

      Praises be to mother hope I suppose?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      @Skeptic Al – are you always such a douche, or do you come on here to practice?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      The douchiest thing I do is post all day long on a faith and belief blog, although I hate faith and belief. I'm a man of science. But I never post on science blogs because I don't understand what they are saying.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
  6. HotAirAce

    Satanists appear as whacky as members of the dead jew zombie vampire cannibal death cult aka christianity but perhaps more entertaining.

    July 9, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
  7. Colin

    A GREAT DAY FOR ATHEISM

    There is a story on CNN about how a judge in Wisconsin blocked Wisconsin’s latest abortion bill. I posted the following comment under that story.

    “Hey, I've got a great idea. Let's NOT base 21st Century social and medical policy on a collection of ancient Jewish and Christian supersti.tions cobbled together into a book before the Dark Ages.”

    As at making this post, the above comment has over 500 “likes” and only 21 “dislikes”. That is a ration of over 25 to 1 !! Check it out, it is still up.

    We atheists are having a huge impact in the mind of Americans. We are clearly helping Christians emerge from their childish superst.ition.

    It is time for all we atheists to redouble our efforts and put the foot firmly on the throat of Christianity. One day, no child in the USA will be taught supernatural nonsense before they are too young to recognize it for what it is.

    There is light at the end of the tunnel…..

    July 9, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • Genoa

      Wow, could you be a bigger tool?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      Yay! We we we. Me me me. Who needs God when we are so awesome! Yay for us (*me*)!

      July 9, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
    • Joey

      Yes, if Colin's name was Genoa then Colin would be a bigger tool.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      "As at making this post, the above comment has over 500 “likes” and only 21 “dislikes”. That is a ration of over 25 to 1 !! Check it out, it is still up."

      I've liked it 300 times, did you do the other 200? Yay for us!

      July 9, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      Colin, we are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than them. You should teach a class on arrogance and smugness. And then we can all be more like you. Can I climb up on your high horse with you?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      He already teaches that class and it's a violation of the Constiitution but what does Colin care, he's on the inside track.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • Ooph

      Al is just oozing with bitterness and resentments today, isn't he?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      I took his class. Basically, he insists you try to align your opinion to his. If you question any of his weird statements about the Bible, he refuses to answer and leaves the class. On the final, I just copied and pasted one of the many packaged answers he uses on this blog, and I got an A.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • sincedutch

      you say "we atheists"... lol.. on an article about Satanism.

      🙂 epic

      You atheists are in denial about the basics of the universe. Please explain to the christians AND satanists how everything popped out of nothing forever ago..

      And don't give me some mumbo jumbo about string theory... saying that OTHER universes existed before our universe... collided and formed our universe.. lol.... which still doesn't explain where THOSE universes came from.

      Naturally speaking .. it is impossible for everything to pop out of nothing a long time ago - the only logical explanation is that something BEYOND nature played a role in making everything pop out of nothing.

      Beyond Nature - i.e. SUPER-natural.

      If you don't believe the bible.. fine.. your choice and belief... but if you deny supernatural origins to all things, then you're just being stubborn / intentionally dense. No offense.. but those are the only options.

      There is no such thing as "it was just always there" either.. fyi.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
    • Colin

      Al, Bill, actually, if you thnk it through, the core theology of the believer is much, much more arrogant than that of the atheist. We take the Universe as we find it and see ourselves as small, mortal and totally insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Your typical Christian believes:

      (i) they will live for ever after they die in heaven;
      (ii) that the creator of the Universe hears their prayers and reacts to them to change what would otherwise be the course of history to answer them; and
      (iii) that all other religions "got it wrong" to the extent they are inconsistent with Christianity.

      In claiming immortality, the power to alter history and the parochial comfort that he rest of the planet is wrong in the supernatural sphere, Christains exhibit remarkable arrogance. It has just been bred into them from so young that they don't even recognize it.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
    • Observer

      Skeptic Al

      "As at making this post, the above comment has over 500 “likes” and only 21 “dislikes”. That is a ration of over 25 to 1 !! Check it out, it is still up."

      Check it out? Yep. First of all, the word is "RATIO" not "RATION" and it is NOTover 25 to 1, but a hair LESS.

      You might want to skip "check it out" comments.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      I have faith in Colin's understanding of how the world works. Yes, he wasn't there, so he doesn't know for sure. But he has faith in the theories presented to him. Unlike thousands of years ago when people thought they knew everything, thanks to people like Colin, we do know everything. And we are better than those that are different from us. Way better. And I'm not being arrogant. It is true.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
    • Colin

      Sincedutch – well, actually, there is such a thing as "was alwyas there". But, if you reject the idea of something being "always there" and insist that everything must have acreator, who created yor creator-god?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      Sincedutch

      If a man like Colin can't explain, manipulate and control the god, it doesn't sound like a very powerful god, does it?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:45 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      Christianity

      (i) what we do, ultimately matters
      (ii) help others and you help God.
      (iii) we are spiritual beings having a human experience

      TOTALLY ARROGANT DUDE!

      July 9, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      I'm not arrogant, look at them.
      Don't look at me, look at them.
      Look at what is wrong with them. Geez, don't look at me.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Al, "... weird statements about the Bible... "

      Can you give some examples?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • Genoa

      Looks like Al is off her medication.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      Trust in Colin's superiority complex. Not God.

      July 9, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Skeptic Al, thanks for the wonderful job you have done of showing how arrogant Christians are and how stupidly they reason for their faith. I don't know that you should have "faith" in everything about Colin, though. Perhaps you should just learn from him as much as possible and put your own good reasoning and sensible skepticism to work in all areas of your life--including whatever Colin says. (I'm pretty sure that Colin would agree, but you're welcome to ask him).

      Again, thanks for making a mockery of Christian arrogance and "faith!" LOL!!! Keep up the great work.

      July 9, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Bill Deacon, why do you lie on this blog? Do you think atheists don't notice it? What about your god? Does he? Wonder what he thinks? Or is your god okay with you lying because your god is YOU?

      July 9, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • Venice

      It's so adorable when people think they have won something when all they did was make the stupid error in trying to apply supposed aspects of an individual to the majority.

      July 9, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
    • Imagine No Religion

      sincedutch said, "You atheists are in denial about the basics of the universe. Please explain to the christians AND satanists how everything popped out of nothing forever ago."

      No problem, as soon as xians (and all other delusional believers) can explain how god popped out of nothing forever ago.

      -–
      "There ain't no jesus gonna come from the sky.
      Now that I found out, I know I can cry." - John Lennon

      July 9, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • Skeptic Al

      Everybody but me is delusional, stupid and completely arrogant.
      We we we. Me me me.

      July 9, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
    • - John Lennon

      "I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong."

      July 9, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
    • Imagine No Religion

      @ – John Lennon

      If you're trying to use this quote as proof that Mr Lennon was not of the atheistic persuasion, then you have failed.

      John was demonstrating his agreement with the Humanist philosophy, while denouncing the oppressive religious dogma at the core of xians, buddhists, islamists,and others (who all, BTW, consider Humanists as infidels/non-believers) with the delusion of an almighty sky-daddy.

      -–
      "There ain't no jesus gonna come from the sky.
      Now that I found out, I know I can cry." - John Lennon

      July 9, 2013 at 6:18 pm |
    • John Lennon

      I don't trust in John Lennon. The man who sang “imagine no possessions” lived a millionaire’s life in a posh New York hotel.
      Nope, you can follow him into despair.

      July 9, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      I don't trust god. He says to "love your enemies" and then he fries his enemies forever and ever in a pit of neverending fire and even has the smoke pumped up (that's some wild ductwork!) "before the throne and the Lamb forever and ever."

      So he's a hypocrite and the sickest terrorist to ever exist.

      July 9, 2013 at 6:53 pm |
    • Imagine No Religion

      @ John Lennon

      Really? So, do you trust Benny Hinn, Paul & Jan Crouch (TBN), Marcus & Joni Lamb (Daystar), Mike Murdock, Joel Osteen, T D Jakes, ad nauseam, who all live the life of a millionaire's luxury and build palatial churches on the donations of the desperate?

      Two things about John Lennon. He gave away many of his millions. And, unlike the hypocrites listed in the previous paragraph, he paid taxes.

      Religion is America's only legal tax scam, which is my only despair.

      -–
      "There ain't no jesus gonna come from the sky.
      Now that I found out, I know I can cry." - John Lennon

      July 9, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
  8. Genoa

    Poor atheists, they are stuck trying to get Christians mad by making puerile comparisons to Christianity and Stanism. It'll be fun to see them try to make original comments on this blog.

    July 9, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      "Wow, could you be a bigger tool?"

      July 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • Fluffy Kittens and Puppies Are Gosh Darned Adorable

      You should do some reading on this subject. You're going to be severely let-down.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • Badda Bing

      Stanism? Is that different than Ollieism?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
    • Arthur Bryant

      "Stanism"? Is that the worship of Stan?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
    • Genoa

      Badda Bing, "Ollieism?"
      Ok, that made me laugh.

      Sorry Twin but Colin has that distinction.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
  9. Facts

    I wonder if CNN knows that this group does not actually believe in Satan?

    July 9, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      The article is kind of written 'tongue-in-cheek' but you never know with the excellent writers that CNN employs (wink-wink nudge-nudge)

      July 9, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
  10. Tom, Tom, the Other One

    No one has really advanced a good argument for God's existence. It's painful enough to see people try. But Satan? Angels too?

    July 9, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
  11. bostontola

    Worship of any supernatural being is silly until there is some evidence of their supernatural existence.

    July 9, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
    • Romans 8:1

      But without faith it is impossible to please HIM, for he who comes to GOD must first believe that HE is, and that HE is a rewarder of those who diligently seek HIM.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • CosmicC

      @Romans. Please, give me a break. That circular logic is so rediculous that even you must recognize that. There's plenty of good stuff in there, don't select the nonsense that was inserted to convince the uneducated that they had to believe.

      July 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Romans 9: 15-18

      It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

      July 9, 2013 at 7:40 pm |
  12. Romans 8:1

    Behold. Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of GOD; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    By this you know the Spirit of GOD:
    Every spirit that confesses that JESUS CHRIST has come in the flesh is of GOD,

    And, every spirit that does not confess that JESUS CHRIST has come in the flesh is not of GOD. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

    July 9, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      *Fools babble religion when the unknown confounds them*

      July 9, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
  13. Ken Margo

    Satan, God, Jesus, Allah, Superman, Batman, Aqua-man, Mr. Freeze and so on. The same rules apply. If you want them to be born then kick in some money. Kids are not free. If you want them to be born you have to help them whether they're part of the 47%, takers instead of makers or whatever you want to call them.

    July 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
  14. Colin

    Yawn. To the atheist, Satan is just as much a figment of pre Dark Ages imaginations as God is. What's next, the solicitation of Mickey Mouse's opinion of lab rat experiments?

    July 9, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
    • I prefer Satinism

      As I recall, these "Satanists" don't believe in Satan at all. Not sure why they bother, but last I looked into it, they were essentially atheists.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      brits call it "having a lark"

      July 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
    • Charles Baudelaire

      “The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist.”

      July 9, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • Imagine No Religion

      @ Charles Baudelaire

      “The greatest trick man ever played was convincing the world that god exists.” - Me

      -–
      "There ain't no jesus gonna come from the sky.
      Now that I found out, I know I can cry." - John Lennon

      July 9, 2013 at 7:36 pm |
  15. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    It's interesting to me that the pentacle is always displayed by chritians as the symbol for the devil. It of course existed before christianity and has absolutely nothing to do with christianity, but what do I know?

    July 9, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      If you don't know, who will?

      July 9, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
    • myweightinwords

      The pentacle has nothing to do with Christianity or it's demi god. It is, in actuality a symbol of protection and predates Christianity significantly.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      myweightinwords seems to know 🙂

      July 9, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
  16. G to the T

    Don't confuse the Anton LaVey version of Satanism with anything you might find in the bible. It's much closer to a school of thought than people actually worshiping the character as depicted in the bible and dante's inferno.

    July 9, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      From churchofsatan.com/Lavey:

      Friday night is the big night for Satanists, the night of the High (not Black) Mass. It opens with a lengthy ceremony in the Ritual Chamber, conducted by LaVey in full regalia, complete with a silken horned cap. Organ music and chanting, which has Gregorian overtones, punctuated by the exclamations “Shemhamforash!” and “Hail Satan!” repeated by the entire congregation.

      The naked altar girl lays fairly comfortably on a fur rug. After LaVey has emptied the chalice (contents optional) he places the vessel on her belly or pubic region,where it stays for the remainder of the ritual.

      Then follows the business part of the evening, but it’s a fair way moved from the orgiastic.

      Members come forwards to lay their requests before Satan. Almost in the forms of almost classical maledictions directed at unseen enemies: “Let his rotting dungheap brain writhe in unending agony as hordes of phantom rats gnaw at his diseased spirit for the rest of his life…” Others, in a gentler vein, ask for love, sensual pleasures, business triumphs.

      LaVey touches them with his sword, rather as if dubbing them knights, while the congregation joins in a united “willing” of fulfillment, their voices rising in a tremendous “Hail Satan!” to drive their message home.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      using Col Klink accent *Hail Satan*

      July 9, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
    • Remembering

      Reading a while back on the Internet it appears that it was said that while dying on his death bed LaVey had prayed to God and Jesus to save him from going into darkness. Now, if true and he accepted Jesus Christ as his LORD and Savior at that last moment, there can be no doubt that he became a Born Again Christian at that very moment thus, was able to enter into Heaven. The same would go for any other non-Believer or atheist who accepts Jesus as their LORD and Savior before their death. That's the way of God. If a person, no matter what he or she did while on Earth asks Jesus for forgiveness, in His great mercy, He will grant it and if they go on to become Saved through Jesus, they will most certainly be able to enter into Heaven but only if they become saved before they die. However, there is only one sin which cannot ever be forgiven according to the Holy Bible. That sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. If that is ever done, then the person cannot be forgiven by God.

      July 10, 2013 at 9:24 am |
  17. fintastic

    Satan.............. mythology... just like jesus.......

    July 9, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
  18. ME II

    Interesting... ignore the actual story but go with one about a group's disagreement with a ficti.tious alter-ego.

    July 9, 2013 at 3:47 pm |
  19. Joey

    It seems to me that Satan would want as many sinners to be born as possible, and according to the bible all one has to do to be a sinner is be born. This leads me to believe that Satan is pro-life.

    July 9, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
  20. Bill Deacon

    There you go abortionists. Satan has your back.

    July 9, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
    • ME II

      Exactly as much as god does.

      July 9, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
    • I prefer Satinism. Much better than Silkism

      Bill never passes up an opportunity to make a fool of himself.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • Observer

      The Bible never uses the word "abortion" and there's more in it to support abortion than oppose it.

      Christians should actually read a Bible.

      July 9, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
    • Raul Mennedes

      i respect you Observer, i'm a Atheist, and even i know there was no mention of abortion in the bible, cause it was written like 2,000 years ago, where no one cared about abortion! and sorry if i'm wrong with the length of time, don't fully wanna go on google

      July 9, 2013 at 8:35 pm |
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