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Satanists square off on abortion (Yes, really)
The UK Church of Satan says it supports a variety of views on abortion. But is the church real?
July 9th, 2013
03:27 PM ET

Satanists square off on abortion (Yes, really)

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)- Are Satanists for or against abortion? Apparently, there's a hot debate.

A group calling itself the "UK Church of Satan" on Twitter says it's open minded, tweeting out "Why Wouldn't Satanism be pro-life?" on July 5.

But the High Priest of the New York-based Church of Satan says it's squarely in the abortion-rights corner.

How to settle this diabolical duel?

Let's back up first.

As Texas legislators debated a law last week that would restrict abortions in the Lone Star State, a group of abortion rights protesters tried to drown out a group of anti-abortion protesters at the state capitol by chanting "Hail Satan!"

The phrase trended on Twitter. Megapastor Rick Warren rapped our wrists (and The Associated Press's, too) for not covering the "Hail Satan" serenade. Actually, pastor, our man Josh Rubin was on the ball.

The UK Church of Satan (assuming it's real) jumped on the trend, tweeting on July 3:

Which raises the question: What does Satanism represent?

We asked the New York-based Church of Satan, and we got an earful.

First of all, Magus Peter H. Gilmore, High Priest of the Church of Satan, told us, there is no "UK Church of Satan."

"I have not authorized any of our UK members to create such a thing claiming to represent our organization, its members and our philosophy," Gilmore said. "So, whoever is behind that feed is committing a fraud."

Gilmore's group, which, unlike the UK church, has a website, also keeps a P.O. Box in New York City. (Radio City Station of all places. Watch out, Rockettes.)

As a matter of policy, the Church of Satan doesn't give out exact membership numbers, the magus said, but it's in the thousands.

"Our organization, founded by Anton LaVey in 1966, is worldwide," Gilmore told CNN in an e-mail, "and we have many members throughout the UK and none of them have heard of any self-proclaimed 'Church of Satan in England.' There was a hoax using a title like this a year or so ago as a political prank."

We put the question to the UK Church of Satan,  who said, "There is no 'UK' Church of Satan. It's worldwide. We represent and connect those followers 'in' the UK."

We've followed up with more questions but haven't heard back yet.

To be sure, the UK Satanists' tweets have been surprisingly unsulfurous.

Take this one, for example:

Or this sweet-natured nugget:

This is a church that worships the Prince of Darkness? And who in hell is JMG?

Getting back to abortion, here's what the supposed UK Church of Satan said:

Yeah, kinda, Gilmore told CNN. But there's much more to it than that.

Many Satanists practice "rational birth control," saith Satanism's high priest, leaving matters of personal morality up to individuals.

"We generally consider the use of abortion to be the purview of the woman whose body is carrying the child," Gilmore said. "We consider sexual experiences to be an indulgence between consenting adults that should be taken seriously, particularly when the possibility of pregnancy is concerned."

But the magus didn't appreciate hearing the name of his lord taken in vain.

"Shouting `Hail Satan!' to abortion protesters is both ludicrous and meaningless," said Gilmore, who's led the Church of Satan since 2001. "Only attention-seeking fools would do so."

Unsurprisingly, Satanists take a strong stand on separation of church and state, believing the government "should be entirely secular."

"So religion should neither force upon nor deny an abortion for any woman, in our thinking," Gilmore said. "Freedom with responsibility is the hallmark of civilized behavior to the Satanist."

Now that that's settled, what's the Satanic stance on gay marriage?

***

In a follow-up email, Gilmore made it clear that Satanists don't actually deify Satan. In fact, they're atheist, he said, and use Satan as a "symbol of pride, liberty and individualism."

"If you chose to mock us, then you should have done so based on what our philosophy actually is, rather than on an assumed `horror film' stereotype," the magus said.

Fair criticism. We'll try to improve our coverage of Satanism.

Oh, one more thing. Gilmore said the Church of Satan does approve of same-sex marriage.

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Abortion • Church and state • Culture wars • Satanism

soundoff (2,331 Responses)
  1. Freethinker

    These nuts are all as bad as eachother. They all try to control you with fear of their poweful and vengeful god. Those of us capable of rational thought aren't the least bit scared by Satan but good luck with your scare tactics.

    July 11, 2013 at 12:28 am |
    • jenniferpa

      I bet you dont believe in the pope or the dolly lamer either

      July 11, 2013 at 12:41 am |
    • Observer

      jenniferpa

      "I bet you dont believe in the pope or the dolly lamer either"

      Dolly lamer? That's a classic! lol.

      July 11, 2013 at 12:47 am |
    • Athy

      How about Dolly Parton?

      July 11, 2013 at 12:50 am |
    • jenniferpa

      Whatever I don't worship him

      July 11, 2013 at 12:55 am |
    • realbuckyball

      It's the "Dollar Lama".

      July 11, 2013 at 12:56 am |
    • Observer

      realbuckyball,

      Yep. You can buy him at Dollar Tree.

      July 11, 2013 at 12:59 am |
    • Athy

      Jenniferpa needs to read something beside the bible.

      July 11, 2013 at 1:08 am |
    • natashapa

      Jennifer seems to be the only smart person posting on this thread tonight

      July 11, 2013 at 1:25 am |
    • Athy

      It's jenniferpa, not jennifer. And she seems to me to be the least intelligent poster tonight.

      July 11, 2013 at 2:36 am |
  2. Sans Foy

    Satan would be so much more effective if he had a band and maybe a late night TV spot. At least he should do AM talk radio.

    July 11, 2013 at 12:24 am |
    • Rory

      He'd be more effective if he could read. Seriously, all the dude has to do is pick up a Bible, read the last book, and make alternate plans. Some master of evil if he can't even do that.

      July 11, 2013 at 12:40 am |
    • jenniferpa

      He does

      July 11, 2013 at 12:44 am |
  3. My opinion

    Satanism is to Atheism what South Park is to Family Guy

    July 10, 2013 at 11:58 pm |
    • ♀ michele ♀

      Or what the Vatican is to San Francisco would be a better comparison

      July 11, 2013 at 12:06 am |
    • Ken

      As opinions go, that's a silly one. Why would atheists believe in Satan?

      July 11, 2013 at 12:06 am |
    • Filthy Hind I love to Mithrism lick and talk Islam bunk

      What Michelle Bachmann is to Sarah Palin ?

      July 11, 2013 at 12:28 am |
    • Rory

      More like, what Sarah Palin is to Katie Couric, or any other intelligent woman.

      July 11, 2013 at 12:30 am |
  4. Corsica

    Ppl who sell theyre souls to the devil are idiots. A lot of those who run the world sold theyre souls and now they have a lot of power and money but is it worth it to spend eternity in hell?

    July 10, 2013 at 11:50 pm |
    • Akira

      Do you have names?

      July 11, 2013 at 12:05 am |
    • Filthy Hind I love to Mithrism lick and talk Islam bunk

      That would be a problem, if
      a. there was a hell.
      b. it made any sense to speak of a temporal dimension in a spiritual realm.

      You do know the Hebrew, (and therefore Jebus) did not believe i immortality.
      Neither did St. Paul. What ? You never went to Sunday school ?

      July 11, 2013 at 12:20 am |
    • Rory

      Forget names, do you have a receipts?

      If Obama isn't a US citizen without a birth certificate, then souls aren't actually sold to the devil without a receipt!

      July 11, 2013 at 12:34 am |
    • Johnny

      I just gave my soul to the devil because he said he didn't have any money, and I'm a nice guy.

      July 11, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
  5. lionlylamb2013

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPOstgw3rk&w=640&h=360]

    July 10, 2013 at 9:31 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QUv9grv-WE&w=640&h=360]

      July 10, 2013 at 9:55 pm |
    • Austin

      hey Carlyle, nice video. Want to have lunch ?

      July 10, 2013 at 11:46 pm |
    • Austin

      Google
      Herbert Walker Bush Nazi

      July 10, 2013 at 11:47 pm |
    • Ken

      lionlylamb2013
      Funny, there weren't any clips from the actual movie "Conspiracy Theory".

      July 11, 2013 at 12:26 am |
    • Rory

      A lot of those cartoons are referring to the bombing in the World Trade Center underground parking lot in 1993.

      July 11, 2013 at 12:37 am |
  6. uoıƃılǝɹ ɟo plɹoʍ uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɥʇ

    ʇɥƃıɹ ʎlǝʇnlosqɐ ǝɹɐ ǝʍ ǝɹoɟǝɹǝɥʇ ˙ǝʌǝılǝq ǝʍ ƃuıɥʇʎuɐ ɹoɟ llɐ ʇɐ ǝɔuǝpıʌǝ ou ǝʌɐɥ ǝʍ

    July 10, 2013 at 8:25 pm |
    • Spectrophiliac

      It's the upside down backwards writing that always gets me all giggly.

      July 10, 2013 at 9:07 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Nice & touche'

      July 10, 2013 at 9:26 pm |
  7. 80's hair metal

    Here's something if you want some nostalgia..go through the posts and read how many 1980's hair bands were mentioned by either screen name or post content.

    July 10, 2013 at 8:12 pm |
  8. Huh...

    The image of satan is almost identical to the image of "Eros" , never noticed that before.

    July 10, 2013 at 7:34 pm |
    • Spectrophiliac

      Cough...

      July 10, 2013 at 9:09 pm |
  9. lionlylamb2013

    Satanism is seemingly a culture that is Christendom's opposite. Satan was of God's first born sons and Christian gospels have given Him many other names such as serpent, snake, dragon etc. I have found a fondness for anyone to forever be reincarnated with not end of such in sight. Our spirited souls are constantly being assessed and reassessed by the super normal attributes of superior then us beings we will likely never know and are least understood by our simple mindedness ways.

    July 10, 2013 at 6:22 pm |
    • Reincarnation

      I always thought the biggest problem for reincarnation would be what do you do when the planet stops existing. The ozone layer won't hold out forever sooner or later the earth is gonna be gone then what? We have to hope that there are other dimensions for our consciousness to exist, and we have to hope that our consciousness exists without a material base to support it...which there's no evidence to support..sadly.

      July 10, 2013 at 7:26 pm |
    • Reincarnation

      Excuse me I meant the planet will still "exist" technically it just wont be habitable. Even without human involvment it eventually won't last.

      July 10, 2013 at 7:27 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      Lots of other planets out there.

      July 10, 2013 at 8:38 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Hello Reincarnation

      Our spirited souls are made up of the nothing that keeps all the atomic cloisters within our atomized cellular physical beings from collapsing in on its own weightiness. So if this view of mine is a noteworthy claim then, our spirited nothing is part and parcel our the celestial nothingness that holds this earthly cosmos of ours in its grasps. The strong and weak forces of gravimetric conditionngs will most likely never be fully rationalized at least in our technically young generation's lifetimes.

      July 10, 2013 at 8:55 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      Reincarnation

      I always thought the biggest problem for reincarnation would be what do you do when the planet stops

      is Matter ever destroyed?

      July 10, 2013 at 9:26 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      when sol goes boom or when Earth becomes dust, it is no different then when we die.

      July 10, 2013 at 9:28 pm |
  10. lionlylamb2013

    I do so love the ideologies around the principalities of godliness but I can admit that I hate the God who established all of celestial creationism(s). On one hand God is a behemoth of dirty done deeds against much of humanism's dispositions while on the other hand God shows little to practically no love to all our civilizations' ongoing trials of which we steadily reshape as the needs arise. Therefore the moral ad civil obligations of our country folk truly is independent of any and all godly demands. Imagine that!

    July 10, 2013 at 5:24 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      My BAD for I wrote "Therefore the moral ad civil obligations" and missed an "N"!

      I meant to write, "Therefore the moral aNd civil obligations"

      There goes my apple tartar! LoL 👿

      July 10, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      No brain, no headache. I save lots of money on aspirin.

      July 10, 2013 at 8:15 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Your blackened namesake tells us all that your attempts to trivialize my namesake is viewed as a reprehensible thievery in name stealing. Besides I am the original and there can be no other,,, 😀

      July 10, 2013 at 8:59 pm |
  11. { ! }

    "Many Satanists practice "rational birth control," saith Satanism's high priest, leaving matters of personal morality up to individuals." There is no such thing as "rational" birth control. "Rational" occurs in the brain. The brain turns off when the libido is turned on. Maybe this explains so many contraception "failures".

    July 10, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
    • Old school

      Well I can't speak for any religious group, satanists included but personally I've managed to drink an entire bottle of wine and still figure out how to put on a wrapper.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:24 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Hi there Old Schooler,

      My "shrink rapper" was a young man by the name of "Mario" as in the game of Mario Brothers. We had about a ten minute rapping session and I came away with a feeling that this dude is almost as intelligent as I am,,, LoL!

      July 10, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
    • ME II

      Perhaps by "rational" he meant as opposed to praying, "God! Please don't let me be pregnant!"

      July 10, 2013 at 5:43 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      A women's s ex life shouldn't impact her ability to take the pill once per day. But with 'apply before use' forms of birth control, it is different.

      July 10, 2013 at 6:07 pm |
    • Oh please

      Jazz if you're too wasted to put one on have your partner put one on for you and hand someone your car keys.

      July 10, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Hi there "Oh please"

      I didn't know that Jazzy drinks before Se.x,,,? LoL,,, I have been away from such issues, I am forgetting the rationale in such issues,,, 😀

      July 10, 2013 at 9:14 pm |
  12. Jennifer

    This was a good article explaining everything with the exception of "his lord taken in vain." There is no lord in Satanism. If anyone would actually check out their website and read MOST members are Atheists! Atheists believe things based on reality and/or science. People need to quit being ignorant and think and/or research before they speak. I am assuming most of you who have commented do not have cable because a lot of the TV programming is obviously against your views OR do you not have cable because you can't afford it because you donate hundreds a week to a God-based church who has done nothing for you besides marry you (if that applies). If I am wrong then so be it but I bet half of you, if not most, watch TV shows like Bachelorette and Big Brother which it's ok to act like they do ONLY if they are Christians right? Oh and isn't ENVY against your rules and people who watch those shows are envious! You can lie all you want. My last word is going to be HYPOCRISY!

    July 10, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • { ! }

      "Atheists believe things based on reality and/or science." How good is the reasoning capacity of the average atheist? We never find out. Atheists entrone their "reason" as absolute authority. Based on what? Assumption. Believers have faith, atheists have assumption. An example: atheiststs Assume that all Reality is available to them through their five senses, that the data is delivered flawlessly to the brain, and that the brain (usually the atheist's) can infallibly process the information.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • Jennifer

      @{ ! }

      Everyone has a right to believe what they want to. My post was based on the article, people's comments, what I believe (which I never stated), and looking up various websites besides what this article is about. I will NOT get into a debate about this because I have the right to voice my opinion at any time and/or place I want to. Have a good day/night.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
    • Observer

      { ! },

      "Believers have faith, atheists have assumption."

      Faith is based on a 2,000-year-old book and assumption is frequently based on laws of science which can easily be reproduced.

      July 10, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
    • Rory

      { ! }
      "atheiststs Assume that all Reality is available to them through their five senses, that the data is delivered flawlessly to the brain, and that the brain (usually the atheist's) can infallibly process the information."

      No.
      Data is always delivered flawlessly to the brain. That's why we have optical illusions and false memories. It's also why we atheists are skeptical about stories of miracles, prophecies and contact with gods. If anything, it's believers who assume that the writers of the bible, for example, were flawless in their perception of things way back then.

      Of course, much of reality may elude our senses, but much of it has been revealed to us using math and science using advanced technology, which is not so limited. Science makes no assumptions on what it will find. It may make predictions, but those still depend upon evidence to get them accepted as the best explanation. It is the believer who makes assumptions and then defends them against all the evidence that points in another direction.

      July 11, 2013 at 1:14 am |
    • Rory

      Oops, that should read "Data is not always delivered flawlessly to the brain." 😳  

      July 11, 2013 at 1:16 am |
  13. Answer

    Oh the freaks fear their deaths.

    July 10, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • Just somebody

      You know, I was scared of my death...but now that I hear you call me a freak something like cancer..or being eaten alive by a shark seems minor...just so long as you think I'm cool.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • Anna J.

      Answer...seriously..you think people are freaks for wanting to survive? I suppose you also think humans are silly for wanting to breathe, copulate, and eat food once in a while.

      July 10, 2013 at 7:57 pm |
  14. Answer

    The opinion of and on "authority".

    There is not ONE person on this planet who holds absolute authority. The person you think as having any kind of authority is merely exercising "power."

    Power.. through the laws that we, humans, have structured and made agreements upon.

    Go bash away at your futile attempts to exert "authority" over any person on this world. It's your failure because you have none. You may carry a gun – and that – exerts power, but not authority. You "babble" crazies can endeavor to plug your nonsense bible on all the media channels and outlet but still you have no authority.

    People who can recognize this single fact are themselves powerful to laugh in your face. 🙂

    So suck it.

    July 10, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      You describe wonderfully why there will never be human unity and peace under secular materialism.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
    • Answer

      You're a laugh, Bill.

      And quite pathetic.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
    • Answer

      @Bill

      Here is why you're so pathetic:

      Describe to everyone as to why your "heaven" is not also "materialistic"?

      July 10, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Bill is hilarious. No reasoning, no analogy, no thought process describes, just "It's posts like yours that prove there will never be purple frog teeth!"

      July 10, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • marine1

      @ Cpt.
      So are you man. You have a negative, hateful response to anything anyone says.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      Answer: Bill doesn’t have a clue. Of course the paradigm of heaven and hell is all about seeking some sort of reward in a so called afterlife. One cannot get more materialistic than that.

      July 10, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • captain america

      streets of gold is materialistic and snobby

      the vatican is materialistic and snobby

      July 10, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      All hails to Capn Americana,

      Two snobby in one script is a noteworthy tradition to be exalted,,, don't you think C.A.?

      July 10, 2013 at 8:02 pm |
  15. Akira

    Hi, faith! How are you? How goes the lawsuit? I've been awaiting my subpoena.

    July 10, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Hi there Akira,

      Someone I see from your post tells me that "Faith" or someone else is being mad. Madness is a sorrowful way for anyone to be. I, though remain as a malleable person, ever to repent upon my mental disfigurations and move on. People who put themselves into a tizzy for emotionalized reasoning have little to no fan fair among those just wanting to "fit" in.

      May you Akira ever be in happiness's cuddling and joyously remember te kind times. I salute you and will remember your kindness ways regarding my past transgressions toward you.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • Akira

      Ll, you know who the poster "faith" is.
      Again, I don't remember you doing anything so ghastly that you would think you transgressed against me...but thanks.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      My most honorable Akira,

      It was just a few days ago when I made an unfounded allegation against you,,, I have a tendency to remember my socialized transgressions more than my loving nature ensues of me. Thank you though for your taking note of my "repentive" words.

      July 10, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • Akira

      Lionly, I still don't know what you're referring to, but it is water under the bridge. No worries.

      July 10, 2013 at 7:51 pm |
  16. Answer

    Hey religious freaks.. go and hide. Your death is in the future. It's a promise.

    July 10, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
    • God

      ...as is yours...

      July 10, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
    • Answer

      Oh look at that poser man. LOL

      Death is for you.

      July 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
    • Just somebody

      Here's a thought, being as how we all have such a little bit of time to be alive why work so hard to make that small fragment of time worse for people?

      July 10, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
    • marine1

      WOW !!! you are really worked up over this.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
  17. Colin

    Troof, a non-exhaustive list of gods that various human societies have believed in at one time or another includes Azura Mazda, Angus, Belenos, Brigid, Dana, Lugh, Dagda, Epona, Allah Aphrodite, Apollo, Ares, Artemis, Atehna, Demeter, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Gaia, God, Hades, Hekate, Helios, Hephaestus, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Pan, Poseidon, Selene, Uranus, Zeus, Mathilde, Elves, Eostre, Frigg, Ganesh, Hretha, Saxnot, Shef, Shiva Thuno, Tir, Vishnu, Weyland, Woden, Yahweh, Alfar, Balder, Beyla, Bil, Bragi, Byggvir, Dagr, Disir, Eir, Forseti, Freya, Freyr, Frigga, Heimdall, Hel, Hoenir, Idunn, Jord, Lofn, Loki, Mon, Njord, Norns, Nott, Odin, Ran, Saga, Sif, Siofn, Skadi, Snotra, Sol, Syn, Ull, Thor, Tyr, Var, Vali, Vidar, Vor, Herne, Holda, Nehalennia, Nerthus, Endovelicus, Ataegina, Runesocesius, Apollo, Bacchus, Ceres, Cupid, Diana, Janus, Juno, Jupiter, Maia, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Neptune, Pluto, Plutus, Proserpina, Venus, Vesta, Vulcan, Attis, Cybele, El-Gabal, Isis, Mithras, Sol Invictus, Endovelicus, Anubis, Aten, Atum, Bast, Bes, Geb, Hapi, Hathor, Heget, Horus, Imhotep, Isis, Khepry, Khnum, Maahes, Ma’at, Menhit, Mont, Naunet, Neith, Nephthys, Nut, Osiris, Ptah, Ra, Sekhmnet, Sobek, Set, Tefnut, Thoth, An, Anshar, Anu, Apsu, Ashur, Damkina, Ea, Enki, Enlil, Ereshkigal, Nunurta, Hadad, Inanna, Ishtar, Kingu, Kishar, Marduk, Mummu, Nabu, Nammu, Nanna, Nergal, Ninhursag, Ninlil, Nintu, Shamash, Sin, Tiamat, Utu, Mitra, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukiyomi, Inari, Tengu, Izanami, Izanagi, Daikoku, Ebisu, Benzaiten, Bishamonten, Fukurokuju, Jurojin, Hotei, Quetzalcoatl, Tlaloc, Inti, Kon, Mama Cocha, Mama Quilla, Manco Capac, Pachacamac and Zaramama.

    Can you proove they do not exist?

    July 10, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
    • Answer

      Religious freaks have no case for their god.

      July 10, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • { ! }

      Very nice list, Colin. But you left off something: how did the blind, stupid forces of nature evolve a unique being like us who has religious instincts? All those deities you name are only the expression of an inherent human impulse..... to acknowledge something larger than us. Anyone can, and has, made lists. Tackle the hard stuff.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • Answer

      Technology will give us a time machine.

      Hopefully.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • marine1

      You forgot the beer god.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      The need to believe in a so called 'god' isn't inherent. It is taught. This is why most people are of the same faith as their parents. Children are taught myths like Santa. The mature ones understand Santa is myth as well as the other mumbo gumbo myths their parents still believe in.

      July 10, 2013 at 6:13 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      High flyer Colin oscaphy,

      All your labels regarding the gods are all sons of the original God who sits on His throne all alone and beside Himself is ever wanting to be released from the arboreal places high above our celestial cosmos of teetered rationalism. Practice was made a perfection by all of God's first born sons when the Big Bang blew apart the small sizes of the atomically nuanced materialized relativism beginning moments of our becoming celestial creations we now know of as being our celestial Cosmos.

      July 10, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Unfortunately Lionly, you know no history.
      Yahweh was the 40th son of El Elyon. His wife, Ashera, was constantly in and out of the Hebrew pantheon, up until about the time of the Exile. El Elyon was no one's son.

      July 11, 2013 at 1:06 am |
  18. Knights Who Say...

    Scene 25

    HEAD KNIGHT: Nee!
    Nee!
    Nee!
    Nee!
    ARTHUR: Who are you?
    HEAD KNIGHT: We are the Knights Who Say... Nee!
    ARTHUR: No! Not the Knights Who Say Nee!
    HEAD KNIGHT: The same!
    BEDEMIR: Who are they?
    HEAD KNIGHT: We are the keepers of the sacred words: Nee, Pen, and
    Nee-wom!
    RANDOM: Nee-wom!
    ARTHUR: Those who hear them seldom live to tell the tale!
    HEAD KNIGHT: The Knights Who Say Nee demand a sacrifice!
    ARTHUR: Knights of Nee, we are but simple travellers who seek the
    enchanter who lives beyond these woods.
    HEAD KNIGHT: Nee! Nee! Nee! Nee!
    ARTHUR and PARTY: Oh, ow!
    HEAD KNIGHT: We shall say 'nee' again to you if you do not appease us.
    ARTHUR: Well, what is it you want?
    HEAD KNIGHT: We want... a shrubbery!
    [dramatic chord]
    ARTHUR: A what?
    HEAD KNIGHT: Nee! Nee!
    ARTHUR and PARTY: Oh, ow!
    ARTHUR: Please, please! No more! We shall find a shrubbery.
    HEAD KNIGHT: You must return here with a shrubbery or else you will
    never pass through this wood alive!
    ARTHUR: O Knights of Nee, you are just and fair, and we will return
    with a shrubbery.
    HEAD KNIGHT: One that looks nice.
    ARTHUR: Of course.
    HEAD KNIGHT: And not too expensive.
    ARTHUR: Yes.
    HEAD KNIGHTS: Now... go!

    July 10, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
    • Akira

      Every day is a good day for MP.

      July 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
  19. Answer

    Hey religious freaks...

    Have a good time stewing in your indoctrinated fears brought by upon you by your fellow man. Keep on being the losers that you are. It makes everyone happy to see a bunch of losers crawling on their bellies.

    July 10, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
    • Just somebody

      Here's another thought. Not all of us who are scared to die are religious.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • faith

      Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!REMO_INVITE

      u asked 4 it
      "You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down." lol

      deceitful practices

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      "You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down." lol

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      2 late girls

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      You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

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      lol

      the largest lawsuit in history

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      July 10, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
    • marine1

      @ somebody
      Answer has all the Answers, don't waste your time.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
    • Answer

      Of course I have all the answers. All the answers that I have concluded.

      It's all thanks to rational thinking. Applying thought.

      You freaks can suck it and go on with your fears. 🙂

      July 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • marine1

      @ Answer
      Go ahead and spew that hate. Each time you do, i just hit report abuse. People come on here to DEBATE not be DEGRADED.Go ahead keep on posting.

      July 10, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Hello Answer,

      Why so condescending upon the emotionally disparaged and pitiful ranks of the religiously imploded kinds? On a wholesome note, religions of all various denominations are a necessity when one sees all the troubles that socialism instills upon its worldly inhabitants of the human varieties. Where would we be if the whole world was atheistically dominated and secularisms ruled all nations? For there will always be a need for religiously orientated folks and come hell freezing over, there needs for some semblances of religious spirituality will ever be a flourishing detraction from all the slings and arrows of all those bitter and jealous freaks who seem not able to fathom religious wholesomeness.

      July 10, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
  20. bostontola

    The pantheon of gods in Greek, Roman, Norse, Hindu, religions are hard to fathom. But the Abr.ahamic religions have a menagerie of supernatural creatures that rivals the best of them. Sea monsters (Leviathan), Witch of Endor, ghosts, Seraphim, Cherubim, Ophanim, Angels, Giants (Nephilim), Rephaim, Anakim, co.ckatrice, unicorns, gryphons, satyrs, golems, and our favorite from this article Satan. Is monotheism any more credible than the Greek, Roman, Norse, etc. systems?

    July 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
    • Gandalf

      The witch of endor is an elf-witch you know, wise and powerful as the seas

      July 10, 2013 at 5:37 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      From Boston to LA,

      I know hardly anything regarding much of them there Roman and Greek and even Norse writings of godliness. From what I little know is that the Greeks and the Romans started their religious philosophies with a "first god" and then wrote about their first god's lineage trees. I was never one for reading books Boston, but I have watched many a television show about the Grrek and Roman God lineages and was downright in love with their televised nuptuals.

      July 10, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
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