White churches uncommonly quiet after Zimmerman verdict
The Rev. Anthony Evans of the National Black Church Initiative leads a demonstration outside the Department of Justice.
July 20th, 2013
08:27 AM ET

White churches uncommonly quiet after Zimmerman verdict

By Jeffrey Weiss, special to CNN

(CNN) Even before the jury read their verdict acquitting George Zimmerman in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, a number of black religious leaders had responses at the ready.

The voices of white pastors and predominantly white churches and religious groups? Much harder to find.

Nearly a week later, some denominations that often weigh in on matters of national policy have yet to go on the public record. It's particularly notable in the leadership of the Catholic Church, the country's largest religious body.

Admittedly, the flood of responses from black religious leaders was a partly a function of where the TV cameras were pointed.

Familiar figures such as the Rev. Jesse Jackson hit Twitter moments after the verdict was released.

Less familiar figures, such as Pastor Michael McBride, head of the PICO Lifelines to Healing Campaign, immediately issued a call for peaceful demonstrations. McBride had also prepared a tool kit for "Hoodie Sundays" in honor of Martin before Saturday night's verdict.

The Rev. Raphael Warnock, senior pastor at the famed Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, preached a sermon about Martin's death on Sunday. 

Others took longer to react.

National Council of Churches President Kathryn Lohre took a couple of days to release a statement about the “shocking impunity granted by a Florida jury to a man who stalked and killed a black child.”

Similarly, the two largest Protestant denominations in America took several days to figure out their responses.

By Tuesday, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, the first African-American leader of that body, offered a bland quote to his denomination’s official news service.

"Some people are upset, angry and frustrated, while others are in full support of the verdict, so where does the church fit in? The church should be there to pray for both families, the city of Sanford, and our nation," said the Rev. Fred Luter, pastor of Franklin Avenue Baptist Church in New Orleans.

Russell Moore, head of the convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, took a stronger stand, saying that regardless of the verdict, Zimmerman was wrong to take “upon himself some sort of vigilante justice.”

Several bishops, white and black, from the United Methodist Church rapidly offered their thoughts on the denomination’s website. That included the white bishop for the area that includes Sanford, Florida, where Zimmerman shot Martin.

But other organizations where reactions might have been expected still haven’t posted anything.

Where’s the response from the Union of Reform Judaism? Where’s a comment from the leaders of the Episcopal Church?** What’s the position of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America?

Those, however, are religious groups that represent relatively few Americans. The largest claims fewer than 5 million members.

The most notable silence is from the American Catholic hierarchy, who head a church that claims to have nearly 70 million members.

It’s not necessarily surprising that the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has not issued a  comment. The conference is large and sometimes moves slowly.

But it has committees that can be more nimble.

The day after Vermont legalized assisted suicide, for instance, Cardinal Seán O’Malley of Boston, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities, warned of a "slippery slope" and urged Catholics to fight the future passage of such laws.

But there’s been nothing I can find from any Catholic committees this week.

Nothing from Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, the conference president. Nothing from the bishops’ Subcommittee on African American Affairs. Nothing from Archbishop Wilton D. Gregory, former president of the conference and the first black man to hold the office.

In fact, when I searched the web for “Catholic” and “Bishop” and “Trayvon” and “Zimmerman” and “verdict” over the past week, I found only one bishop on the record: Retired Bishop John H. Ricard of Pensacola-Tallahassee, Florida, now president of the National Black Catholic Congress. And that wasn't until Friday.

Ricard told Catholic News Service that it is proper for the church to encourage prayers for Martin and his family and Zimmerman and his family - "his life will never be the same either."

He also said that he didn't see a place in the church to foster interracial dialogues to deal with the vastly different understandings of the verdict by many whites and blacks.

It’s not as if there isn’t a logical opening for Catholic leaders to offer an opinion. Zimmerman, after all, is a former Catholic altar boy, according to news reports.

The official catechism of the church includes a section, 2263, on the right to self-defense. And individual bishops have not been reluctant in the past to speak out on questions of racial justice.

I did locate a parish priest who gingerly approached the topic: The Rev. Richard Voor serves at All Souls Catholic Church in Sanford, Florida, where the Trayvon Martin trial was held.

On Sunday, the day after the verdict, he focused his homily on the parable of the Good Samaritan.

It’s a story that turns racial profiling on its head, of course. The hero of the tale, the Samaritan, belonged to a group that was a persecuted minority 2,000 years ago.

For several minutes, Voor circled rhetorically around the elephant in the room, talking about compassion and mercy and unpacking the historical understanding of the story.

“If somebody does something to us we kind of react and react badly sometimes and then we react back. You know how that goes? It’s called the circle of violence,” he said. “It happens between families, it happens between countries, it happens between groups of people.”

Finally, Voor addressed directly the subject his parishioners were surely thinking about:

“I would suggest to you, especially what we’ve all been through in Sanford in the past 17 months, that what we need is compassion," the priest said. "Because people are all invested in one way of looking at that whole situation or the other way…this has really affected everybody."

Jeffrey Weiss is an award-winning religion reporter in Dallas. 

** After this article was posted, an Episcopalian noted that the church's COO, Bishop Stacey Sauls, had a written a blog post about the verdict on July 15. You can read it here

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  1. blackness for dummies

    Not about race?

    From CNN, even today, right now:
    Talking Trayvon with kids isn't exclusive to African-American parents

    "We're going to have to tell him that it may have been due to Trayvon's race, and this is how it happened, and this is how George Zimmerman decided to react to it," she said. "It's going to be very hard to sit him down and have the conversation, but we know we have to do it."

    Now to see it as I do, turn on Kayne West:

    Talking Kayne with kids isn't exclusive to African-American parents

    "We're going to have to tell him that it may have been due to Kayne's race, and this is how it happened, and this is how the camerman decided to react to it," she said. "It's going to be very hard to sit him down and have the conversation, but we know we have to do it."

    Yes, you do.

    July 20, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • blackness for dummies

      Show the kids the video when you tell them "the wrong the cameraman did" just because Kayne is a "race"

      July 20, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
    • Dippy

      It's Kanye West. Please spell it correctly it you want to be taken seriously.

      July 20, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
    • blackness for dummies

      I see now where I went wrong, I didn't check the spelling at the "National Black Church Initiative", they would know how to spell Kayne correctly, especially now that they'll be using his video, or video of him giving the beat down to the white cameraman for asking him questions.... similar to Travon being asked questions and flying off the handle over it. A great example of showing how the white man is always out to get the black man and blackness is everything anyone would ever want out of life.

      Black church???

      Does it float? Is it painted in pitch?

      July 20, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
      • blackness for dummies

        Everything is a color, not what it is.

        Up until now, I didn't even notice that the bible I have has a black cover. I have never said to anyone that I read a black bible.

        How ridiculous is that?

        July 20, 2013 at 3:38 pm |
    • Miss Chocolate Mom

      It is not about race, it is about talking:

      "Kanye hates when the paparazzi speaks to him," a photographer source tells PEOPLE. "He got very annoyed with the videographer and lost it."

      Get your facts straight.

      July 20, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
  2. Jeff

    For niknak and anyone else seeing more to the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case/verdict...I have two words for you:

    Antonio Santiago

    ...where is the outrage, the protests, the media coverage, or anything? Why no mention from the Oval Office? I'll tell you why...nothing to gain politically. Sorry Mr. President, can't mention Trayvon Martin and then go silent on Antonio Santiago.

    News flash, evil comes in all color and crime knows no boundaries.

    July 20, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Elise

      911 callers could be heard screaming to the dispatcher that the baby had been shot and his mother had him on the ground trying to perform CPR. One man told the dispatcher that baby Antonio was not breathing and that he had been shot “right between the eyes.”
      West claimed that the baby’s father, Louis Santiago, was shopping at Wal-Mart and not with her when Antonio was killed.
      Because gun residue was found on both parents, the GBI report tells a different story.
      Read more from WPTV:
      According to the report, “this supports the possibility that the individual discharged a firearm, was in close proximity to a firearm upon discharge or came into contact with an item whose surface bears GSR.”
      Sherry West told WJXT reporter Vic Micolucci that the residue found on her must have come from the struggle she says that happened with the teens charged in the murder: De’marquis Elkins and Dominique Lang. She says she didn’t know why the test would come back positive for her baby’s father, Louis Santiago, but insists he was not there. By the way, West and Santiago are no longer together and WJXT couldn’t reach him because he’s in jail, being held without bond on charges of aggravated stalking related to family violence and violation of probation.

      July 20, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
  3. Reality

    Six women listened, reviewed and came up with the verdict. Bless the Founding Fathers who established this system of justice.

    July 20, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Women weren't allowed on juries in most US states until well into the 20th century.

      July 20, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
    • Colin

      Before women got the vote we had Presidents like Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. Now that women vote we get Clinton, Bush and Obama !

      July 20, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
  4. niknak

    Oh, while we are all at it, here are some other upstanding white Americans and what they are doing to further our nation:
    (notice how there are not minorities on this list).

    • –July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how "liberals" are "destroying America," walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.

    - October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.

    - December 2008: A pair of "Patriot" movement radicals - the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted "to attack the political infrastructure" - threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.

    - December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear "dirty bomb" in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.

    - January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampagein Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.

    - February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.

    - April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.

    - April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama's purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.

    - May 2009: A "sovereign citizen" named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.

    - June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.

    - February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)

    - March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

    - March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.

    - May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.

    - May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.

    - May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.

    - July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.

    - September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year–old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.

    - January 2011: A backpack bomb with the potential of killing or injuring dozens of people is found along the route of a Martin Luther King Day “unity march” in downtown Spokane.

    July 20, 2013 at 2:25 pm |
    • rush

      Two can play at this game.

      July 2010: A 14-year-old faces a hate-crime enhancement charge after Palm Bay police said he carried out a racially-motivated attack on a 22-year-old man for listening to rap music.

      July 2011: Former security guard Nkosi Thandiwe was found guilty of murdering a woman and wounding two others during a shooting spree in July of 2011 and has been sentenced to life without parole, CBS Atlanta reports. but he still remembers what prompted the violence by his own twisted rationale. He cited anti-white ideas he learned at university.

      April 2012: Norfolk, Virginia, A 16-year-old male has been arrested after a gang of black youths armed with rocks violently beat a white couple in an unprovoked attack.

      Aug 2012: Pat Mahaney, severely beaten last August in North College Hill by a group of teens who said they were “bored,” died Friday after a sudden illness Wednesday, his brother, Michael Mahaney said.

      Feb 2013: On February 27, the day after the Martin shooting, two black males in Detroit abducted and killed a white couple. The victims were found bound, shot and burned beyond recognition in an alley. Police are calling it a random “thrill killing.”

      Feb 2013: On February 28, in Kansas City, Missouri, two black teens attacked a 13-year-old white boy on his front porch as he was returning from school. They poured gasoline on him and set him on fire for no apparent reason, saying “You get what you deserve white boy!”

      July 2013: MABLETON, Ga. -Cobb County police have arrested four alleged gang members linked to a fatal hit-and-run crash on Mableton Parkway. The suspects are accused of beating the victim and then forcing him into the path of a car.

      July 2013: Two black teens murder White man, shot another White man, threaten two other White men in 'spree'

      July 2013: Sheriff deputies responded to a fight in the 6000 block of Ocotillo Avenue involving 20 to 30 people. An unidentified Marine was seriously injured when he was hit with a tire iron and then possibly stabbed.

      July 20, 2013 at 3:18 pm |
  5. blackness for dummies

    I know it will never happen, but some day it would be nice to see that same picture at the start of the article, with instead a picture of Kayne West when he was 12 years old, same words, same people standing there, and his name on the posters. Then of course, add in Obama calling Kayne his son, and news orgs around the US beating the riot drums, and regretably, hispanics being beaten over it, but that's the cost for any black man that attacks a white that asked him questions...

    No, that wouldn't make any sense now would it... before, or after... or now in the picture above.

    July 20, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      It's Kanye.

      July 20, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
    • Akira

      The most common picture of Trayvon used, the one in the Hollister shirt, was taken when he was a few months shy of 17.
      I can't see what picture is used above, because my phone is too small.
      Kanye West has nothing to do with this article, and I don't know why you keep calling him Obama's son. Obama didn't call Trayvon his son, either; you're misquoting him.

      July 20, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • blackness for dummies

      For the same overall situation, I would like to see the same responses for Kayne West and his attacking a white cameraman hours ago that asked him questions.

      I know that will never happen, because in the Kayne West event, it's recorded and everyone can see it was a stupid violent action taken by Kanye to someone asking him questions.

      Zimmerman didn't have a camera, or throngs of people around, or police, or other cameras all going at the same time, so even though it's the same overall setup, no one will bother to make posters, want justice for Kayne (execution of the white cameraman), riots, donations to Farakan, Sharpton, or Jackson... the president won't want to have him as his son, and CNN won't make lots of cash flow from adds promoting that view... rather than what the police departments, judicial system, witnesses, and jury decided.

      blackness for dummies

      July 20, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
  6. Colin

    Trayvon Martin got justice when what Trayvon needed was grace

    July 20, 2013 at 1:53 pm |
    • Colin

      Mute points what Trayvon got was dead

      July 20, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
      • tallulah13

        Were you trying to make a pun about the dead being silent, or do you just not know the difference between mute and moot?

        July 20, 2013 at 2:07 pm |
      • Dippy's little helper

        Moot! It's M O O T, not mute!

        July 20, 2013 at 2:08 pm |
        • Dippy

          Thank you helper, but it's probably lost on Colin.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:33 pm |
  7. I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

    Niknak is overtly racist.

    July 20, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
    • Colin

      niknak makes the klan look like kindergarten.

      July 20, 2013 at 1:55 pm |
    • niknak

      Because I point out that all the racial hate seems to go in only one direction?

      Look in your own heart, I bet you are happy anytime a non white person is killed.
      You won't admit it, but it is there and you know it.

      July 20, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
  8. HotAirAce

    I don't care what any religious leader (mentally ill, delusionals and/or liars, charlatans, every one of them) thinks about any thing. I just wish they would confine their mumbo jumbo to within their cult's clubhouses.

    July 20, 2013 at 1:28 pm |
  9. Roger that

    The next time you are stalking your ex girlfriend and she starts kicking your ass, remember that the law is on your side if you decide to shoot her.

    July 20, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
    • rush

      Or is she's stalking you?

      July 20, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Gee, Rog, you forgot that it's now legal in Florida to start a fight, then shoot your opponent when you are losing.

      July 20, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
    • Roger that


      That's my point.

      July 20, 2013 at 8:24 pm |
  10. rush

    Hey CNN, Hispanics are being quit too. Quit your nitpicking.

    I wonder why they're being quiet. I'll give you a guess. If any comment came out they'd be called racist again.

    July 20, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
  11. Roger that

    Is CNN suggesting that Zimmerman's Catholic upbringing played a role in the shooting? Interesting.

    July 20, 2013 at 1:20 pm |
  12. Alias

    Okay CNN Moderator – get ready. I'm going to tell the truth. Profanely.
    If niknak can call me a cracker, then why can’t I call them nigger?
    If you want a more integrated society, than stop going out of your way to segregate yourselves from the rest of us.
    Zimmerman has the right to defend himself.
    Neighborhoods have the right to have patrols where vandalism has occurred.
    Travon was wrong to attack Zimmerman. He had a phone, but instead of calling the police he called a girl he wanted to impress.

    There is no such thing as a white church.
    There are, however, black churches, colleges, beauty pageants, fraternities, etc., etc., etc.
    If you want a more integrated society, than stop going out of your way to segregate yourselves from the rest of us.

    July 20, 2013 at 1:13 pm |
    • niknak

      Did Zimmerman also have the right to racial profile?
      Did he have the right to stalk Trayvon?
      Did he have the right to go after him and confront him?

      If that had happened to you son you would have been outraged.
      Heck, they did not even investigate that shooting for 45 days AFTER it happened.

      Had Trayvon been white, and Zimmerman black you would have a totally different view of it.

      Right now in Texas a black man is being charged with murder of a white guy and is claiming stand your ground.
      I bet you are not siding with him.

      Crack er

      July 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
      • rush

        The moment you prove he racially profiled, then, he racially profiled. Until then, he didn't.

        In Charleston, S.C. on 6/6/12 a 17 yr old white man was shot and killed by a 30 yr old black man. Where was CNN? MSNBC? ABC? Shhhhhhhh. FYI, it wasn't racially profiling was it?

        FYI, if you check Florida's stats, blacks make up 1/3 of the Stand Your Ground claims. Better put, they use it more than their ratio to population. They make up over 16% of the population yet use about 33% of the Stand Your Ground cases.

        July 20, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
    • bostontola

      You let yourself get baited. Asymmetry in racial terminology comes from the fact that whites weren't oppressed, African Americans were. Words are no threat to whites' liberties. A jury did rule that the evidence wasn't enough to convict GZ (which i respect), that doesn't mean your version what happened is true.

      July 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
      • niknak

        Was that to me Botswana, or to Alias?

        July 20, 2013 at 1:29 pm |
        • bostontola

          Alias, I did reply to you below.

          July 20, 2013 at 1:31 pm |
      • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

        Racism is racism. If it's socially acceptable to say c.racker, it has to be socially acceptable to say n.igger, otherwise there is a major double-standard.

        July 20, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
        • bostontola

          Your opinion is noted, I disagree as explained above.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
        • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

          Well, I disagree with your assertion.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
        • bostontola

          Fair enough, agree to disagree.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
      • niknak

        I was not trying to bait anyone.
        Have been trying to respond to your Deny comment, but I may have been banned.
        I will see if this gets thru

        July 20, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
      • rush

        This isn't' the 19th or early 20th century either.

        July 20, 2013 at 1:58 pm |
        • niknak

          What is that supposed to mean?

          July 20, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
    • R.M. Goodswell

      And we are not in the 50s and 60s anymore.... If an all black jury had heard the case, id be willing to bet there would have been no difference in the verdict ..none at all...one side made their case –one did not ... this was a fear killing ..not a race killing.

      July 20, 2013 at 1:34 pm |
      • niknak

        I agree that the prosecution's case was terrible and did not meet the level of without a doubt.
        But that is not why the black community is so outraged.
        They are outraged that the case was not even investigated for 45 days AFTER the shooting.
        Outraged that Mr Zim stalked Tryvon, and was told NOT to follow him and still did.
        Outraged that Trayvon was unarmed but no Mr Zim.
        Outraged that this keeps happening to them, and if they say anything about it they are the ones using the "race" card.

        July 20, 2013 at 2:02 pm |
  13. Reality

    Input from a black mother – her letter-to-editor in a morning local newspaper:

    "Our sons are in far more danger from their black brothers than they are from a white Latino vigilante. The vast majority of all blacks murdered are killed by black assailants. Chicago had several shootings of black residents on the Fourth of July by black attackers. Tell me, are the press and Al Sharpton there yet?

    In Philadelphia, every year, hundreds of young black men murder hundreds of young black men. It is important to be afraid of young black men in Philadelphia. Before spending so much energy on the afraid-of-black-people syndrome, we must solve the blacks-killing-blacks problem. Surely, that will produce the greatest gain and save the most lives."

    To add credence to these conclusions, four young black men were shot the other night in Philadelphia by four other black men

    July 20, 2013 at 1:05 pm |
    • niknak

      Yes, black on black killing is happening, but not because they are black.
      The problems in the inner cities with gang killings over drug turf is a major issue which could take us hours to discuss.
      What we are talking about here is racial killing.
      None of the inner city black on black deaths are due to racial issues, but to monetary issues.

      When is the last time you recall hearing about a group of black teens going out and finding a white guy and running him over with their car just because they hated white people?

      When is that last time you heard about some black guys going out and finding a white guy and beating him and then dragging him to his death just because he was white?

      When is the last time you heard about a group of black police officers beating the h ell out of a white motorist?

      When is the last time you went to a department store and the security guards followed you around?
      Never. Yet it happens to black people all the time.

      When have you heard about a white couple moving into a black neighborhood and having a cross burned in their yard.

      Give me one link to a story where a black person went out and did something terrible to a white person just because of them being white.
      Just one.
      Bet you can't.

      July 20, 2013 at 1:17 pm |
      • bostontola

        Reginald Denny.

        July 20, 2013 at 1:27 pm |
        • niknak

          Medger Evers.
          Emmit till.
          Rosewood massacre.
          The list is endless of white on black racial crime.

          But of course those uppity N ggars like MLK and Sharpton are the reason white people go out and hate on blacks.

          July 20, 2013 at 1:34 pm |
        • bostontola

          You have a short attention span. You challenged the board:

          Give me one link to a story where a black person went out and did something terrible to a white person just because of them being white.
          Just one.
          Bet you can't.

          I just met your challenge. I didn't say or imply that blacks weren't treated terribly.

          July 20, 2013 at 1:41 pm |
        • rush


          Seriously speaking, how many times do you hear of those white killings to begin with as in this case? How would even know? People jumped on the bus of racism so fast and never looked back.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
        • niknak

          There is a huge difference between what happened to Mr. Denny and what happened in Miss or in Texas to Mr. Byrd (or Medger Evers, Mr till, MLK etc).
          Mr. Denny took a wrong turn and ended up in the middle of a riot.
          Yes, what they did to him was racial and wrong. And they all got charged and did time for it too.
          But they did not go out and seek Mr. Denny and target him because he was white.
          And it was a black minister who saved Mr. Denny from being killed by throwing his body over him.

          Again, show me one instance where a black person, or group of black people went out with the express intention of hurting or killing a white person, like happened in MIss when those white kids went out to and did what they did solely because they hated blacks.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:08 pm |
        • bostontola

          Denial is the trap of the religious, avoid it if you can. As I said blacks have been systematically mistreated, whites have overwhelming advantages. That doesn't mean blacks are perfect.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:17 pm |
        • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

          If a black person (or any minority) and myself are competing for a job and our qualifications are practically identical, the black person is almost certain to get the job over me due to affirmative action. Where's my advantage there?

          July 20, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
      • blackness for dummies

        Kayne West is black, just hours ago, he chased and beat up a white cameraman asking him questions (much like Zimmerman asking Travon who then attacked him punching his face and slamming his head into the concrete).

        If you are saying color made a difference with Travon, then it also did with Kayne West, both responded the same when when being asked questions from a white person.

        Try not to throw up too much when swallowing the racial "injustice" forced down your throat by Sharpton, Jackson, and Farakan. They only make millions of dollars feeding it to you so you might as well enjoy it and flaunt it. Puke on your shirt is the new fashion trend I guess.

        "He was black and the other person was white!!! so the courts, police, juries, witnesses, victim, moms, dads, brothers, sisters, mailmen, store clerks, and anyone one else on Earth, they're all racist if they're not black!!!"

        July 20, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
        • Akira

          Where's your outrage when Mel Gibson does the same thing? Lindsey Lohan? Paris Hilton? Britney Spears? Zza Zza slapping a cop? The list is endless. The thin they have in common is not their skin, but their celebrity.
          Stop race baiting. Your moniker says exactly where you stand on the issue of race.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
        • Dippy

          It's Zsa Zsa.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
      • Reality

        And now for the nitty-gritty from the FBI Hate Crimes Report – 2011

        "An analysis of data for victims of single-bias hate crime incidents showed that:

        ◾47.4 percent of the victims were targeted because of the offender’s bias against a race.
        ◾20.4 percent were targeted because of a bias against a particular s-exual orientation.
        ◾19.2 percent were victimized because of a bias against a religious belief.
        ◾12.2 percent were victimized because of a bias against an ethnicity/national origin.
        ◾0.8 percent were targeted because of a bias against a disability. (Based on Table 1.)

        Racial bias

        Among the single-bias hate crime incidents in 2011, there were 3,645 victims of racially motivated hate crime.

        ◾71.9 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-black bias.
        ◾16.3 percent were victims of an anti-white bias.
        ◾5.2 percent were victims of a bias against a group of individuals in which more than one race was represented (anti-multiple races, group).
        ◾4.8 percent were victims of an anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias.
        ◾1.9 percent were victims of an anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native bias.(Based on Table 1.)

        Religious bias

        Of the 1,480 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:

        ◾63.2 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
        ◾12.5 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias.
        ◾5.7 percent were victims of an anti-Catholic bias.
        ◾4.4 percent were victims of a bias against groups of individuals of varying religions (anti-multiple religions, group).
        ◾3.4 percent were victims of an anti-Protestant bias.
        ◾0.3 percent were victims of an anti-Atheist/Agnostic bias.
        ◾10.5 percent were victims of a bias against other religions (anti-other religion). (Based on Table 1.)"

        July 21, 2013 at 12:26 am |
  14. Alias

    White people do not segregate themselves from all other skin colors. I have seen churches where white people are not welcome, but i have never seen a church that would close its doors to any minority just because of their skin color.

    July 20, 2013 at 12:58 pm |
    • niknak

      You have never been to an all black church and most likely have never even met a black person.

      July 20, 2013 at 1:01 pm |
      • Alias

        My boss is black.
        fuck you

        July 20, 2013 at 1:14 pm |
        • niknak

          Then why don't you ask him/her about what they felt about the verdict?
          And while you are at it, tell them some of the things you have said on this board about MLK.
          I bet your boss won't side with you.

          July 20, 2013 at 1:24 pm |
    • ryebreadreturns

      I have been in numerous all-white churches where a black person would feel just as unwelcome as a white person might feel in some all-black churches. In almost all cases, the minister would welcome someone of the other race with open arms, but in many cases the congregation can be less accepting. This phenomenon knows know racial boundaries. It's human nature. Christ calls us to put ourselves in the shoes of the minority and to understand what they are feeling so that we can show them compassion and understanding. You should practice empathy, and work hard to gain some perspective.

      July 20, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
      • ryebreadreturns

        *knows no

        July 20, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
  15. Jordan

    "White Churches" Really?

    July 20, 2013 at 12:46 pm |
    • niknak

      Would you feel more at home if it said crack er churches?
      Most likely.

      July 20, 2013 at 12:51 pm |
  16. dougmeeks

    More of the CNN "say anything that gets viewers". CNN the place news goes to die.

    July 20, 2013 at 12:41 pm |
    • niknak

      It got you here.

      July 20, 2013 at 12:50 pm |
  17. blackness for dummies

    "White churches uncommonly quiet after Zimmerman verdict"

    What color should churches be painted? This does matter to blackness people and it's in the "Blackness for Dummies" book out soon.

    July 20, 2013 at 12:41 pm |
    • His panic

      You sound like you're in a state of Panic.

      I have been saying all along that those who trust in God and in Jesus Christ God’s Son will not Panic. All others will Panic in due time.

      GZ did Panic, TM may have Panic and when Panic sets in and takes hold of your heart and mind, bad things do happen, will happen.

      Trust God and His Son Jesus Christ and you WILL NOT Panic!! All others will panic.

      July 20, 2013 at 12:51 pm |
      • bostontola

        You probably exist because a forefather of yours panicked at a danger and escaped.

        July 20, 2013 at 1:05 pm |
        • His panic

          I exist because my parents had sex. I'm guessing that's why you exist, too.

          July 20, 2013 at 2:37 pm |
  18. JD

    Wow!! What is CNN implying now? That a lack of, or "bland", response by white churches or predominantly white faiths denotes the parishioners are racists? You really played your agenda card with this one.

    July 20, 2013 at 12:32 pm |
  19. Rocket

    The reason is because Zimmerman was aquitted. Martin Luther king would be ashamed of some of the black leaders and their comments

    July 20, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
    • niknak

      The man who was shot to death by a crack er would be mad at black people for disagreeing with the verdict.

      July 20, 2013 at 12:52 pm |
    • Alias

      Martin Luther King would have found true injustice.
      He would not waste his time on this thug who died beacuse he attacked an armed latino.

      July 20, 2013 at 12:56 pm |
      • niknak

        True injustice?
        Like being racially profiled, then stalked, then confronted then murdered.
        All while being unarmed.

        But go ahead and think MLK would side with Zimmerman if that makes your crack er azz sleep better at night.

        July 20, 2013 at 1:03 pm |
        • Alias

          If Travon had not been looking for trouble he would have called 911 instead of his girlfriend.

          July 20, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
        • niknak

          How was he looking for trouble Alias?
          By walking home from the 7/11 with Skittles and a soft drink?
          Doing that is trouble in your book?
          Or is it because he was black and doing it that makes it trouble?

          Trayvon did nothing wrong by being on the street at 7:30 in the neighborhood he was staying in.
          They only met each other because Mr. Zimmerman was stalking him.
          Against the explicit commands from the police dispatcher.
          Why is that so hard for you to understand?

          July 20, 2013 at 3:34 pm |
      • tallulah13

        The greatest injustice here is the smear campaign against a 17-year-old kid. He wasn't an angel, but he wasn't a "thug". He was a kid, acting like his peers when he was with his peers because that's what 17-year-olds do. His worst offense was smoking pot. He was walking home from the store, not committing a crime. The only "witness" to his attacking Zimmerman is Zimmerman, and he has a worse police record than Martin.

        Zimmerman is a punk who went looking for trouble, then panicked when he found it. He's always skated out of trouble (arrests for domestic violence, fighting with a police officer and speeding) because he's under the protection of his daddy the magistrate. His personal testimony should be taken with a very large grain of salt.

        I think that MLK would have found a lot of injustice here. I think that anyone with a conscience can, if they actually care to look past the propaganda.

        July 20, 2013 at 2:24 pm |
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