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July 23rd, 2013
12:47 PM ET

A nightmare day for the pope's security detail

By Eric Marrapodi and Miguel Marquez, CNN
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Copacabana Beach, Brazil (CNN) - Don't blame the pope's Swiss Guards if they had nightmares Monday night. There was plenty to disturb their sleep: a mobbed motorcade, a bomb scare and protesters clashing with police.

When Pope Francis arrived here Monday for World Youth Day, a weeklong Catholic event held every few years, the massive security effort was temporarily undermined by a traffic jam.

As the papal motorcade was driving from the airport to the presidential palace, federal officials steered the motorcade into the busiest of several potential routes. As the motorcade slowed, papal admirers swarmed the silver Fiat hatchback carrying Pope Francis, reaching into his open window to touch the pontiff.

A Vatican spokesman said the pope wasn't afraid - but his secretary was.

“The Pope’s secretary told me that when the car was stopped, he was scared at times, but the pope was very happy and waving,” said the Rev. Federico Lombardi.

Brazilian officials blamed the mob scene on miscommunication between the city of Rio de Janiero and federal police. Lombardi simply said the motorcade had taken a wrong turn.

Still, the pope’s security team was confident enough during the stoppage that Domenico Giani, the Vatican's chief of papal security, opened the pope’s door and handed him a child to bless.

Once Francis transitioned into the open-topped Popemobile, he moved easily through the tens of thousands who filled the streets of Rio to catch a glimpse of the new pontiff - the first pope to hail from Latin America.

The pope’s regular contingent of Vatican security, including the Vatican police and the Swiss Guard, moved with the pope in the streets, occasionally bringing infants over the barricades to meet the pontiff.

There was a different scene shortly after Francis met with Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff at the Guanabara Palace. Protesters - who had promised to be out in force during the papal visit - clashed with police in riot gear.

Police said the protesters hurled rocks at them and they responded with water cannons and tear gas. Six arrests were made and two photographers were injured.

The Brazilian police also said in a statement that on Sunday they had discovered a small homemade explosive device at a shrine to the Virgin Mary in the city of Aparecida the pope is scheduled to visit later this week. The small plastic, duct-taped device was destroyed.

READ MORE: Explosive found near site pope plans to visit

State of Rio de Janieo security officials met on Tuesday to find out what went wrong and how to fix it.

The Brazilian Ministry of Defense said they have deployed more than 20,000 military and police forces to deal with security for the weeklong event.

For the final Mass, in a large field west of Rio, the defense ministry said 400 soldiers will be stationed at the altar and 94 observation towers in the crowds, which officials say could top a million people.

"Logistically, (it is) the most complex event that the city ever faced," Rio Mayor Eduardo Paes said. "We know that the pope likes to bend ceremonial rules, but that is more than welcome in Rio."

READ MORE: Pope Francis embarks on historic trip to Brazil

On Tuesday, bomb-sniffing dogs and police swept the main stage at Copacabana checking the altar and the VIP seating area. Three small Brazilian navy ships were sweeping along the shore, staggered out for several miles, maneuvering up and down the coast.

The pope was scheduled to rest on Tuesday. The formal program for World Youth Day begins Tuesday evening.

CNN's Hada Messia contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Brazil • Catholic Church • Pope Francis

soundoff (473 Responses)
  1. lionlylamb

    Some people here have proclaimed that "we don't know" how the cosmos came into being yet they make claims to a "singular" Big Bang "theory" to justify their scientific outlook... Whenever a theist says that God instilled the Big Bang, the atheists all say, "Where then did God come from"?... Theists don't know the where and how by which God was created... They only know that something that came about within the never ending of spatial nothingness dare needs a creation's creator in order for any celestially established contrivance to come forth from nothingness's unending being... Theists are fools who cannot fathom scientific theories of base relativisms scientifically endured and likewise scientists are just as foolish wherever their theories fall short of the blatantly mundane orifices that cannot be scientifically theorized with any righteous accuracy...

    In my scientific suppositions I have proposed that there were once immeasurably unknown amounts of Big Bangs spread out uniformly upon the great vastness of spatial relativisms that is Nothingness itself... Such a theory regarding unknowable amounts of Big Bangs spread out uniformly upon the great vastness of continual Nothingness just may well be the missing mathematical linkage for explaining the hindering smallness of our selfishly acknowledged celestial issues that has confounded many astrophysicists who endeavor to seek a resonating mathematical formulary in order to rationalize a theoretical understanding of the celestial cosmos...

    Forgive me my lengthy sentencing wordage usage but many times I endure to write, I become oblivious to the needs to shorten my sentence wordage usages...

    Once again I shall attempt to iterate a perspective view of mine...

    If in the very beginning moments of spatial conservatisms there was randomly spread out upon the great vastness of Nothingness; immeasurable numbers of Big Bangs thereby establishing a uniformity of cascading individualized universal conditionings; thusly creating among the vastness of spatial conditions toward a theoretical cosmological linkage of gravimetrical conduciveness relative to each Big Bang's main whereabouts...

    Long before God became flesh and bone as is made mention of in Genesis 6:3, the Holy Spirit was this Spatial Nothingness that has always been and will ever be. That's as simplistic as I can so write ... For before the Holy Spirit became flesh and bones, Chaos ensued and immeasurable amounts of Big Bangs began to multiply within great distances from each other... We are rather simplistically aware of but one Big Bang and I am in sorrows that our astrophysicists cannot rightly fathom the plausible conditionings that permeate the theoretical potential for immeasurable amounts of Big Bangs leisurely being born and/or established within the Holy Spirit being but Spatial Nothingness...

    July 23, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
    • CommonSensed

      Time to change yer meds again.

      July 23, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
      • lionlylamb

        Common Sensed...

        Are you a pharmacologist or are you playing one in a skit or play...?

        July 23, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • epoch1

      Get off the drugs, man

      July 23, 2013 at 3:09 pm |
      • Athy

        No! He has to stay on the drugs. Otherwise it gets even worse!

        July 23, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
        • lionlylamb

          Athy Cathy...

          It's not drugs but rather psychotropic medication... Olanzipine (Spell Check) or Zyprexa Zydis.... It keeps the dopamine hordes from adhering to the neuronal networks of my brain cells... :mrgreen:

          July 23, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
        • Athy

          That ain't all it's doing.

          July 23, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
      • lionlylamb

        Epoch One...

        I have left my drugs behind me with the exceptions of cigars which I find quite soothing and relaxing. My alcoholic days are almost four years behind me now... Eat your veggies and pounce upon your meatiness desires...!

        July 23, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
    • Dasea

      That is an interesting idea. It seems like a majority of big bang believers suppose time, light, energy, and dark matter began universally at our common big bang. If there is truth to your idea that other big bangs have occurred with a perfect symmetry including our own then many would believe these other big bangs events have a common light scatter, time, energy and dark matter, therefor there is no medium for any type of information to traverse. If a God existed to order the big bang, and could witness outside of that universe to construct another big bang event, then that God truly is way beyond us. He or She (it) must exists not in any part of the cosmos, but outside of our ability to understand. Outside of our ability to communicate, because no medium exists between two universes which were both formed from the light time created by unique big bangs. Only a creature or creatures outside of the universes would not be blinded by the universal commonality. We should ask this god to hold a tight string and tin cans, or we will never know with our foreseeable technology. Perhaps we are unable to see the forest because of the tree house.

      July 23, 2013 at 3:28 pm |
      • lionlylamb

        A goodness day to you Dasea...

        Our mal-aligned opinions regarding which came first, the physical God or Gods spiritual relevancy seems to have slipped everyone's conscience awareness... To my reckoning endorphins the Holy Spirit is within our viewpoints perspectives; the Spatial Nothingness which always was and will forever be..! One's assumptions toward reconciling the spiritual came first before the material... Thusly the Holy Spirit of Nothingness became the force behind all manners of physical essences in all of Celestial Creationism and even the Terrestrially Created Evolutionary of the cellular chasms of atomized cosmologies...

        July 23, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • Derp a Derp

      Call off the search!
      Tom Cruise has been located!

      July 23, 2013 at 3:36 pm |
  2. rickapolis

    And the World Cup is yet to come!

    July 23, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • CommonSensed

      And the Olympics.

      Should be a hoot!

      July 23, 2013 at 3:04 pm |
      • jazzguitarman

        Brazil took on way too much. Now they are one of the leading advancing nations but they should of spaced out these events. If they crash and burn (and that is likely since they cannot even complete much of the necessary construction), it will be a set back instead of an advancement.

        July 23, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
        • egret

          Apparently they are building some of the stadiums in weird places, too – like a hundred miles out in the jungle, shoving people who had been there for centuries out to build something to be used twice at most, with no hotels, no roads, no infrastructure, no services nearby to support visitors so that it won't even work well. Crazy.

          July 23, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
  3. rs

    Just wondering,but it seems that catholics put men such as the pope or church officials between God and his children. Is that just a bad perception on my part ?

    July 23, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • TheThinker

      Jesus put the first pope in charge of His Church. That was Peter, the first leader of the Catholic Church. Prior to Peter, Christianity was a sect in Judaism. Pope Francis is simply the most recent pope.
      FWIW, the mission of the Catholic Church: Preach the Gospel of Jesus, Practice works of Charity, Exercise the Sacraments.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
      • Dippy

        And don't capitalize words like practice, charity, exercise and sacraments.

        July 23, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
        • Sean MacNair

          Ooh, thank you grammar Nazi, you're so cool pointing out all the grammar errors

          July 23, 2013 at 8:36 pm |
    • John Smith

      rs, it's more important than ever in our modern world to realize we can't, in the words of the Beatles "Carry the world upon our shoulder." It's just too complicated. We can't worry about a job, raising kids, being informed voters, addressing community building, being jurors, being informed, thrifty shoppers ... and in addition to all that make decisions about what laws to write, what scientific projects to undertake, etc. More than ever, the world really needs somebody out there with authority who can go out into the world and solve problems that are essentially spiritual ones. Do the Jews and the Arabs need to be fighting? Of course not. Jews had a *favored* status in Islam for most of its history. Whatever happened to that? Whose job is it to fix such things? The most likely person is the Pope.

      July 23, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
  4. Bootyfunk

    pope in south america again to preach the evils of condoms?

    July 23, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      Well I have to assume this Pope will avoid those type of topics, but the protesters will not (and they are right to protest the RCC's insane policies).

      July 23, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • TheThinker

      Hmm, if this is a healthy debate, can you tell me your opponent's reasoning? That is, can you accurately describe the Catholic Church's lengthy rational against artificial birth control?

      July 23, 2013 at 2:55 pm |
      • Doc Vestibule

        Why do Catholics oppose birth control?
        The condemnation of birth control stems from their belief that God wants humans to spew forth as many cro/tch critters as possible in order to populate heaven and to "be fruitful and multiply" (gen 1:28).
        To purposely countermand God's will to breed like rabbits is to lie to the Holy Spirit in the same way that Ananias and Saphira did in Acts 5 : 1-11 when they held back a portion of their gift to God. God's slaying of that couple is one of the few instances of divine wrath in the New Testament.
        They also believe that many forms of birth control, like IUDs and the pill, are actually forms of abortion and therefore consti.tute murder.
        There is also a heavy emphasis on self-denial as a path to righteousness amongst Catholics, this stemming from Matthew 16:24 in which Jesus says "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."
        For Catholics in terrible marriages, God allows separation (and therefore lifelong abstinence) but not divorce.
        It was the apostle Paul's opinion that it was far better to be single and abstinent, but marry if you can't control your loins.
        "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion." (1 Corinthians 7:8-9)
        There is also the old fear of witches and warlocks and their ungodly potions which God condemns in Gal. 5:20 and Apoc. 9:21. Today's sorcerers are pharmaceutical biochemists.
        But most of all, the scripture cited by Catholics in regards to contraception is Genesis 38:9.
        In that uplifting story, God commanded a fellow named Onan to impregnate his sister in law.
        They repeatedly got jiggy, but Onan kept pulling out at the critical moment. For this transgression, God killed him.
        Contrarily, the Vatican teaches the concept of Primacy of Conscience.
        "Man has the right to act according to his conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience, especially in religious matters". (catechism of cath. church)
        The quid pro quo is that Catholics are expected to develop their conscience based on obedience to the infallible dogmatic tenets of the Magisterium. In other words – Catholics are encouraged to make their own judgment calls when it comes to morality, but they go to hell if their conscience dictates other than that which the Church mandates.

        July 23, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
        • jazzguitarman

          Doc, thanks for explaining that so well!

          July 23, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
        • Bill Deacon

          You've deteriorated Doc. Having a bad time? In answer to the question, no, you did not correctly put for the argument Catholics make for not using artificial birth control and therein lies your problem. You are arguing against something you don't even understand

          July 23, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
        • Sue

          Bill, Doc clearly understands the issue much better than you do. Stop attacking him and try debating, for a change.

          July 23, 2013 at 4:45 pm |
        • Doc Vestibule

          Bill, please then elucidate the reasoning.

          July 23, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
    • asdrel

      Yes, I'm sure that is the most important thing on his mind.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
      • jazzguitarman

        Not sure if you're cracking wise or not. The issues of condoms is one of the key issues on the mind of the Pope, the RCC and those younger former or about to be former Catholics. i.e. many of left the church because of the RCC's views on se xual issues. The RCC isn't going to reduce the number leaving the RCC unless they change their stance. Brazil isn't going to change their culture as it relates to s e x.

        July 23, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
        • Bill Deacon

          I bet you specialize in that type of jazz that is so dissonant it only makes musical sense to the people who play it right?

          July 23, 2013 at 4:41 pm |
        • HotAirAce

          Or much like those who say you can't understand The Babble unless you read it right, or belong to the right dead jew zombie vampire cannibal death cult.

          July 23, 2013 at 4:45 pm |
  5. CNN Belief Blog Co-EditorCNN

    @William, you've been warned about your language. Find something else to say.

    Thanks,
    Daniel Burke

    July 23, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
  6. Anne Weber

    Pope in Brazil... to the feeding cages.

    July 23, 2013 at 2:18 pm |
  7. God wears panties

    "The pope was scheduled to rest on Tuesday. The formal program for World Youth Day begins Tuesday evening."
    >
    Oh yes he will need his energy for .................. lol

    July 23, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • Derp a Derp

      for derping?

      July 23, 2013 at 3:37 pm |
  8. Odo

    Why does the Pope need security? Shouldn't his "god" protect him? I mean, he wants women to have faith and just accept whatever happens to them as "gods will"....why doesn't he drink his own kool-aid?

    July 23, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • Anton

      Too entirely true.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • bob aussie

      Good point. If all leaders of religions practiced what they preached, instead of practicing "priest craft" and trying to take money from their "believers", we might get along better with each other.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
    • Josh

      I am not religious but your statement is absurd. The pope knows he is mortal. If Jesus can be killed, so can the pope.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:52 pm |
      • jazzguitarman

        But since God is in control, if the Pope is killed isn't that God's will? Why would anyone wish to prevent what God has ordained?

        July 23, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
    • gonziago

      Actually the pope didn't want any security, but other officials shot down that suggestion. He is going under much less security then previous popes.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
    • avi

      Exactly! Nothing says faith like bulletproof glass 😉 How much does his trip to Brazil cost? "God's children" are dying of hunger all over the world you know.

      July 23, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
      • gonziago

        Actually there is no bullet proof glass being used.

        July 23, 2013 at 3:02 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        I saw the poop-mobile on the news... so that means that there IS bullet-proof glass

        July 23, 2013 at 3:31 pm |
        • gonziago

          There are no sides to the pope mobile.

          July 23, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
      • Sean MacNair

        Then feed them. Otherwise just STFU.

        July 23, 2013 at 8:38 pm |
  9. scott stams

    "Pope mobbed after wrong turn"

    I hear that is pretty common in Brazil

    July 23, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
  10. God wears panties

    What the poop lacks in faith is covered by his security

    July 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm |
  11. Chris

    World youth day? Is that were they set up who has what youths to abuse or is it to share tactics at hiding the abuse.

    Don't be a fool and reply, I will not see it nor care to see it. Truth hurts.

    July 23, 2013 at 2:05 pm |
  12. Popelust

    "The pope was scheduled to rest on Tuesday. The formal program for World Youth Day begins Tuesday evening." LOLOLOLOL. Doesn't even need a comment!

    July 23, 2013 at 1:54 pm |
  13. John

    Another good man was jeered, arrested and killed about 2,000 years ago by people just like some of these posters.

    July 23, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Have you not confessed that it would have been you as well, John?

      July 23, 2013 at 1:56 pm |
    • tas20036

      And most of the posters who would kill such a man today are "christians" like yourself, John.

      July 23, 2013 at 1:58 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      First off, you forgot the allegedly before the word "killed". There is no actual evidence it ever happened, though it may be likely. Secondly, you do not know the people from 2000 years ago, so you have no idea what comparisons can be made between those people and the posters here, so you are bearing false witness, one of your top 10 no-no's. Quit it.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Yeah, and Barabbas was friend of mine

      July 23, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • PK

      2000 years ago they were protesting the extreme cost to the city for the pope to visit while many of the citizens don't have basic services. They are protested the Confederates Cup for the same reason.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • David

      LOL, comparing this guy to Jesus.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:18 pm |
      • Derp a Derp

        He's no George Zimmerman. That's for sure. 😉

        July 23, 2013 at 3:39 pm |
    • Just the Facts Ma'am...

      It is interesting to note that the Christ in the bible was killed by the religious establishment of that time. He was supposedly killed for rocking the boat, eating with tax collectors and prostltutes, chastising the pharisees for their haughty public prayers and whipping the profiteers cashing in on religious traditions. Do any Christians REALLY believe that the state of organized Christianity today would be embraced by a returned Christ? Really? I think it far more likely that he would be rejected as a fraud by most Christian groups and run out of town. He would be out there talking with women in planned parenthood clinics and preaching to crack heads. He would be feeding the poor and the homeless and all you would hear from the Christian right and Fox News would be about some crazy socialist giving away fish instead of teaching people to fish.

      The sadest part of Christianity today is that it does not deserve the moniker it has adopted and shames the non-violent enlightened carpenters son whos true legacy was hijacked and perverted by greedy men who sought only to pad their pockets with gullible peasant pennies. This enterprise is of course severely hampered if the supposedly divine being you are selling is actually walking around and speaking for themselves...

      July 23, 2013 at 2:21 pm |
      • me

        He would indeed. First off. His name was "Yeshua ben Yoseph". In English – Joshua, son of Joseph. Second off – "Truly, Truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin." and they will not go to the place they think they are going.

        July 23, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
      • Lee

        Jesus? Nonviolent? Did someone else go crazy over in a temple over a few profiteers cashing in on the ignorance of their own citizens? Didn't he overthrow tables and holler at the top of lungs about disrespecting his father?

        Didn't Jesus also willingly let a bunch of men execute him violently? All so he could resurrect himself to allow sinners with blind faith to "inherit his kingdom"? Which isn't gold or anything in a physical sense, but a eternal sense of peace? Or something? What a load!

        July 23, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
        • InFormed

          He also called for the extermination and execution of non-believers by stoning. Religious Jesus lovers often overlook that point.

          July 23, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
        • Doc Vestibule

          He also issued his followers a call to arms.
          "He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."
          Luke 22:36

          July 23, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
    • me

      "Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God". You failed.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:25 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        FYI: Only kids and tools use the phrase "fail" on the internet

        July 23, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
        • Derp a Derp

          [Fail]Lucifer's Evil Twin[/Fail]

          July 23, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
    • Jeff

      How do you know he was a good man? Believe everything you read?

      July 23, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      John: The RCC's polices on many issues cause HARM and therefore they are NOT good policies. e.g. their insane stance on the use of birth control. This is why many developling nations do NOT welcome the Pope. Brazil is making great progress from being a third world nation. The last thing they need is for citizens to NOT use birth control. THINK!

      July 23, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
  14. Lisa W

    Why oh why come to this page, knowing it is about religion, to mock it? Don't believe? Fine, but Karma will get you little Trolls.
    That is like going to a regular, old strip club when you only like men. Rather obvious, isn't it?

    July 23, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
    • William Demuth

      We come not here to praise you my dear, but to bury you.

      July 23, 2013 at 1:54 pm |
      • InFormed

        Amen to that.

        July 23, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
    • CommonSensed

      Because we like to read sanctimonious, righteously indignant posts like yours.

      Thanks for playing.

      July 23, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
    • tas20036

      Because I like to read how people like you can answer reasonable questions with answers like, "The Invisible Sky Monkey" hates the same people I do, and boy will you be sorry.

      July 23, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
      • Derp a Derp

        There is no Invisible Sky Monkey...only Zuul !

        July 23, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • im-gagging

      lol karma gets people who threaten others with karma

      July 23, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
    • PK

      It is not about religion. Its about people protesting because there government is ponying up for people to have basic services in a lot of areas but then shelling out tons of dough for the sporting events and pope visit. The protests have nothing to do with religion.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:15 pm |
      • Dippy

        Their, not there.

        July 23, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
      • Bill Deacon

        Do you think they have a problem with the concept of return on investment?

        July 23, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      This is a brief blog and NOT a religion blog. The RCC's policies cause a lot of harm. Sorry but that is A-OK to bring up. Go away if you cannot take the heat.

      July 23, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • Sal

      Also remember that Karma is not a Christian concept. The Hindu's and Buddhists may not like you taking their religious concepts as yours.

      July 23, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
  15. johnnyr51

    I've always said if Christ returned, they'd lynch him again because his real teachings are abhorrent to "Christians" – they prefer the dead Christ that died so they can keep on sinning. "Sell what you won and give it to the poor", "turn the other cheek"....forget that hippie stuff. Pope Francis is doing his best to return some decency to the church...and for that, he will be targeted.

    July 23, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Altar boys in particular are trained to "Turn the other cheek" and you see what that has gotten them!

      July 23, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
      • Duffy

        "Spread the other cheek"....actually

        July 23, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
      • Derp a Derp

        A red-hot poker?

        July 23, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
    • sly

      This pope has the blood of thousands of young Latin American progressive students on his hand.

      He was a large reason why the American-sponsored Right Wing Death Squads were able to execute thousands of college students.

      He is no more decent that Hitler.

      July 23, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
      • tas20036

        And a worse dresser, too.

        July 23, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
  16. Muh Fedora

    Mmm, anti-theist tears for lunch!

    July 23, 2013 at 1:45 pm |
    • What

      ?

      July 23, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
  17. ME II

    I hate to detract from the Pope-a-thon and draw the ire of the anti-atheists, but should the military have an Atheist Chaplain?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/23/lawmakers-battle-over-push-to-create-military-chaplain-for-atheists/

    Also, shouldn't Belief Blog carry this item?

    July 23, 2013 at 1:42 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Funny, but the idea of ANY chaplain of any sort engaging in getting young men to de-evolve into killers isn't an admirable thing.

      I realize wars can be thrust upon us, but in all candor it seems to me that in my lifetime not a single one of them was ever really needed.

      July 23, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
      • CommonSensed

        One could argue that putting down the Nazis was a good thing.

        "Nazis – I hate those guys" – Jake Elwood.

        July 23, 2013 at 1:55 pm |
        • A Conversation

          That would be Illinois Nazis.

          July 23, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
        • William Demuth

          As I said, in MY lifetime.

          They were pre me.

          July 23, 2013 at 2:11 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        To make war is to be human... peace is not our natural condition... history makes this very clear...

        July 23, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      An atheist chaplain is nonsensical/oxymoron... what would be the point? Besides, regular chaplains are trained to be counselors regardless of your beliefs.

      July 23, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Military chaplains are non-denominational.
      They are there to provide a sympathetic ear and calming presence to soldiers in emotionally taxing situations.
      Some call it "spiritual guidance" – but they effectively perform the same duties as Counsellor Troi did on Star Trek.

      July 23, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      The only reason for military chaplains is to have a more effective fighting unit. In other words, their prime job is to get/keep military personnel on the job. This is totally consistent with their civilian charlatan shaman brothers con-man role. Atheists don't need religion oriented chaplains – we'd be fine with unbiased mental health professionals.

      July 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
  18. CommonSensed

    Why does he need security? Let go and let god.

    July 23, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Because that whole trust in the Lord nonsense breaks down once the first 9mm shows up. His coat even looks like it has a Kevlar lining in it.

      Lamb Team Four is on him like white on the Pope

      Within a generation they are going to have to make the Pope mobile out of an Abrahams tank to keep the crowd from tearing this clown to shreds

      July 23, 2013 at 1:32 pm |
      • Tom, Tom, the Other One

        Several words occur to me, just free association: sabot, depleted uranium, plasma

        July 23, 2013 at 1:39 pm |
      • Cominatya

        Yer an idiot

        July 23, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
      • William Demuth

        Another of the great mysteries of Christianity

        Exactly how many RPG's does it take to punch a hole in the Pope Mobile?

        In truth, I am not sure, but would gladly make an effort to find out.

        July 23, 2013 at 1:47 pm |
      • Instrument

        I will pray for you William Demuth, that the Lord deliver you from your cowardice and avarice.

        July 23, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
        • William Demuth

          And I shall pray for you, and put in a good word with my preferred hallucination as well

          Now that we are friends, perhaps you might consider biting me?

          July 23, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
        • tas20036

          And I will pray that both of you realize that our true lord and savior is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Embrace his wondrous noodly appendages.

          RAmen.

          July 23, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
    • Lisa W

      The Bible also says that God helps those who help themselves.
      Just because you have faith, you're not supposed to test the Lord. Silly non-believers 8)

      July 23, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
      • Ancient Arab Proverb

        Trust in God (if you wish), but tie up your camel at night.

        July 23, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
        • A Conversation

          Damn! You mean David Lee Roth stole that lyric?

          July 23, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
      • CommonSensed

        You mean all those bumper stickers are wrong?

        Sigh.

        July 23, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
      • PSAztec

        Lisa, the Bible does not say "God only helps those who help themselves." If you are going to quote it, at least get it right and point to a reference so everyone can verify it. The Bible is clear on the need for Christians to take care of the poor, the widows, the least of these.

        July 23, 2013 at 2:15 pm |
      • Hammerdown

        *** God helps those who help themselves.

        That is NOT in the bible, try reading it once idiot.

        July 23, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
      • sam

        Believers who are unaware of what their own holy book contains are much worse than nonbelievers. And that's even before the passive-aggressive smiley face!

        July 23, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
    • pplr1

      Some assassination attempts have been made against various Popes already. Believing in God doesn't mean being ignorant of human history.

      (Despite what some especially cynical people with what are basically theological differences may say).

      July 23, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
      • God wears panties

        Did your dead jesus have security protecting him? Why should the poop?

        July 23, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
    • Kellie A Norcott

      A story for you.

      A man refuses to abandon his farm when it begins to flood in the surrounding area. The police come by ina squad car and urge him to evacuate. The man simply says "God will provide for me."

      A day later the water is up to his front door, and five feet deep in the road. A rescue crew comes by in a boat and offers to take him to safety. The man simply says "God will provide for me."

      A day later the water is nearly 3/4 of the way up the walls of his house, and the man is on the roof, soaked and tired. A rescue helicopter flies over and a loudspeaker voice urges him to get on the helicopter. The man simply says "God will provide for me."

      The next day there was no sign of the man – he had died. He got to Heaven and said "Lord, I believed in you. I thought you would provide for me in my hour of need. I don't understand."

      And God simply said "My son, what else did you want? I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter!"

      July 23, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
      • CommonSensed

        Moral of the story: Even idiots can go to heaven.

        July 23, 2013 at 1:53 pm |
  19. William Demuth

    On the landing page for this story, I have an ad from Progressive, with a picture of Flo right next to the picture of the Pope

    Strange, but they seem to be wearing the same outfit?

    July 23, 2013 at 1:09 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      I'm developing a business plan, William. To make little candles in the exact image of Pope Francis. That little wick that sticks out of his beanie suggested it to me. Thoughts?

      July 23, 2013 at 1:17 pm |
      • William Demuth

        It occurred to me I might enjoy burning them.

        Perhaps incorporate something that screams in agony as it burns?

        July 23, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
      • William Demuth

        Perhaps a Pope On The Rope Soap, we just have to connect some yarn to his tassel

        We can market it in the prisons, as an ice breaker in the shower rooms.

        July 23, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • William Demuth

      I guess the whole white motif is to convince us he is a virgin?

      July 23, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
    • William Demuth

      I prefer the days of Guido Sarduchi, when holy rollers still had style

      July 23, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
  20. Reality

    Overall, a waste of time !!! And why is that?

    Think about the logic (or lack thereof).

    “I believe the Bible is inspired.” “Why?” “Because it says so.” Would anyone let that logic pass if it came from the followers of any other book or person? “I believe x is inspired because x says so.” Fill in the blanks:

    x=Pat Robertson
    x=the ayatollah Sistani
    x=David Koresh
    x=the Koran
    x=Francis the First

    more “logic”?

    “I believe there is One God Jehovah because He is revealed in the infallible
    Bible. I believe the Bible is infallible because it is the Word of the One God Jehovah.”

    July 23, 2013 at 12:56 pm |
    • De

      I believe that we have global warming, because I read a report that I wrote that said so.

      July 23, 2013 at 3:34 pm |
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