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 A car carrying Pope Francis gets mobbed in the streets of Rio on July 22.
July 24th, 2013
09:33 AM ET
Security raised to`high risk' for pope in BrazilBy Eric Marrapodi and Miguel Marquez, CNN Rio De Janiero (CNN)– The papal visit is now classified as the highest level of security after an incident involving his motorcade. The Pope's visit has been raised to "high risk" from "medium risk" after his car got stuck in a crowd of enthusiastic followers on Monday, a Brazilian Federal official told CNN. The source says the problem in part stemmed from the Pope himself instructing drivers not to avoid the crowds. After the pope arrived in Brazil on Monday he got into a silver hatchback Fiat for the drive from the airport to downtown Rio. Transportation officials in Rio said there were a variety of routes the pontiff's motorcade could have taken. The route they chose ended up pinning the pope's vehicle between a bus and a crush of well wishers who were reaching into the car to touch the pope. Security officials in Rio huddled for much of the day on Tuesday sorting out how to resolve the incident. Federal authorities are now taking a larger role in the overall security of the pope during his time in Brazil. More reinforcements are coming for security from Rio. Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims from around the globe have come to Rio de Janiero for World Youth Day, a week long festival held every two years. The Vatican told reporters Tuesday night that 500,000 people came to Copacabana beach for the opening ceremony and Mass. Crowds stretched down the beach more than a half a mile from the main stage. On Tuesday, Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia told National Catholic Reporter that the group of pilgrims from his archdiocese is small because of security concerns. "I think there's been a sense across Pennsylvania," he told NRC while in Rio, "that this might be a dangerous place for young people to come." "I know that a number of dioceses in Pennsylvania actively discouraged their young people from coming and didn't sponsor diocesan pilgrimages on purpose," he said.
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Until the existence of God can be proven or disproven people will believe or not. The fact some atheists on here feel the need to take over a thread about a religious figure is sad really. I am not a Christian at all but this is the most likable, down to earth Pope the Church has seen a long time.
What are you, the thread nanny? This is a blog about belief, not religion. Feel free to ignore the people that offend your delicate sensibilities.
What are you, the thread nanny nanny?
More like the nanny's ninny...
jacked up Jake...
Your desires to wear a dunce cap is duly noted... My religious belief is contiguously referenced thru my many postings here and your depraved wordage is not a welcoming issue but is unsound cynicism unworthy of reading... Your abusive connotations wreaks of analytical dementia and oozes of delirium...
And its LL- from an enormous pile of glass shards that used to be his house, winding up....and heres the pitch!!....Ball 4 ...man that one went wide! .....
Agreed. I really like this man a lot.
Why doesn't his dear and fluffy "lord" protect him?
I hope the pope has a personal confidante who can have a straight talk with him about his personal security. While his "be with the ordinary people" practices are to be commended, he may think that he is truly infallible and not subject to injury or death from all the deranged folks who will now be targeting him. Maybe he has a death wish so he will not have to be pope much longer. If he really wants to continue the mission that he has put forward so far, I hope that he will listen to his security people.
I think it would do these well-wishers, who want to touch the Pope, some good to realize they are compromising his safety, if not his oxygen.
It would take only ONE ill-wisher to kill him. Is it truly better for you to touch him and risk that, or to step back a few paces, to give him breathing room, and to let his security people protect him adequately?
After all what good to you is a dead Pope Francis?
Stand BACK, applaud lovingly and enthusiastically, and throw flowers. Touching him will NOT give you any spiritual reward, but showing your love CAN. Flowers can say that, but so can standing far enough away so that his protectors can insure that he'll go on breathing. Encourage others to do likewise.
How much can you LOVE this Pope, when you endanger his safety in a mad dash to touch him? That isn't showing love for him; it's just being selfish, because you want to TAKE something from him: a touch. So you can later boast to others that you did it. Love shows itself in GIVING.
If even I, a non-Catholic, can know this, how can any of YOU good Catholics FAIL to know it?
What good is it to touch him, when you're making it easy for some nasty person to kill him? What good is he to you DEAD?
To love him is to participate in his protection, not to interfere with it.
As an atheist, I realize that evil (the generic kind, not the kind that requires a fallen horned angel), in the form of hateful snarkiness (among countless others), is very much alive and well. I need only read comments here to glean that much. But in light of "what goes around comes around," all of these nasty people here will be "reaping" some of their own venom, in due time.
I don't hate people. I hate things, like racism, woman-hate, on and on – but it comes down to one thing: All these evils are forms of CRUELTY. Therefore, it is CRUELTY that is my enemy in life, not some particular group. I have to accept that most people feel a need for a spirituality; I don't have to like it. So I accept this Pope as probably the best they've ever had. Therefore, I can rejoice with the Catholics who love him.
The evil that is quite visible in these comments is cruelty; therefore I detest that cruelty. I also know, as a realist, that such people genuinely LOVE their hates. I can't stop that, either. But I find nothing to rejoice in with haters. They are inadequate personalities, trying to steal adequacy by hating other people. Adequacy cannot be stolen; it can only be EARNED. THEY are pitiful, but the hate they bear is still EVIL, and they still LOVE IT. I can wish them nothing good.
My best to those Catholics who are loving, and who would HELP their new Pope, rather than take advantage of his proximity, at his risk. So SHOW how much you love him by standing BACK, to help him remain safe.
If you DO love him, do you think he doesn't know it? So SHOW it to reinforce it. He'll know how to appreciate THAT, too, especially when your love for him includes the element of protectiveness for him. It means you both LOVE and CHERISH him.
These religious people rudely touched the pope without any acknowledgment of his safety or comfort because religious people are usually inconsiderate of others, and they talk to an imaginary character named God in their minds which is similar to the behavior of psychopaths. Religious people are mentally insane but apparently it is okay because religiousness is so widespread that their form of mental insanity is regarded as normal. People need to be independent thinkers and not let a religious fairy tale mislead them.
If you want to feel closer to God reach out to touch the poor and unloved not the rich and famous.
I think he tries to do just that!
The Catholic Church does a huge MAJORITY of charity in the world–and was one of the FIRST to help the poor. Those who wish to see the Pope are aware of what being a Christian is (and help the poor) but the Pope represents Christ's assistant on earth–as the Church was founded by Christ. So it is only natural that Catholics wish to see him. Stop commenting when you know nothing about the Catholic Faith please.
Thank you for your response! My thoughts exactly.
Oh please. The RCC didn't invent charity.
Olaf Big:
Not to worry. Anyone, dancing on a beach, who is over 9 years old, is safe, from the Roman Catholic Church.
Little girls seem to be immune too.
Talk about a god complex...so the pope thinks he's immune to any danger because he's the supposed mouthpiece of god?
Whatever.
Ignorant posts such as this one are just that – ignorant, disrespectful, and let's say it again: ignorant. I'm glad to see that others here are labeling people with comments such as this as "trolls".
Or perhaps he feels that being closer to his flock instead of in a bullet proof car is worth the risk to his life.
The Church is far more at risk from internal forces than external. Why has it taken fourteen months for the results of the DNA test in the Emanuela Orlandi investigation? When did Church politics become more important than even a single little girl?
WHY DO PEOPLE EVEN CARE WHAT THE POPE DOES ANYMORE? HE NEEDS TO END THE CATHOLIC CHURCH LIQUIDATE AND SPEND ALL THE MONEY ON HELPING ALL THE KIDS WHO THE CULT HAS DESTROYED.
I guess the over 1 billion catholics care. Many non-catholic christians seem to care. A great deal of atheists must care enough to comment on here.
Since he is also a leader of an actual nation, politicians care.
That enough for you or were actually not looking for a response?
Politicians could give a schitt. They pay lip service for the goofballs who believe.
amen to that!!!
TROLL WITHOUT ALL CAPS, IT'S LESS OBVIOUS. GOOD HUNTING.
Go away and stop yelling, your trolling is just pathetic.
WOW 🙂
Nonsense....if the pope and his ilk expect women to risk their health, lives, and livelihood based on "gods will" as perceived by them related to BC and EC...then why not with respect to this as well? Drink your OWN kool-aid Frank..... you don't need security – if you are mobbed or injured then it was "gods will" , right?
if your finite minds can't conceive infinity, and you need to believe in a very human way that everything must have been created, then who or what created god?
No one created God. That's why God is God. Is that so hard to believe? Don't worry, one day it will all be shown to you.
God as portrayed by all of the major religions is just that. A figment of mans imagination which was probably boosted by some high grade form of peyote or other hallucinogenic. And I ain't laughing!.
but if god has always just been, then why can't the universe have always just been?
If you can grasp the concept of infinity, then why the need for a creator?
Their usual cop out answer is that god was always here, but in some other dimension. We mortals are not allowed to know how that's possible, so we shouldn't ask.
Mr. Pope...please don't make the same mistake JFK did. Keep security tight and never let it lax.
NEWS FLASH: A defender of pedophiles is a high security risk! Gee, I wonder why...
......and when has Pope Francis defended pedophiles? Can you give me your source? Don't tell me just because he became pope he's automatically guilty. That's like saying someone who is black is automatically guilty of causing crime. Bigots all around.
WHEN HAS HE BROUGHT THEM TO JUSTICE? HE HASN'T SO HE IS GUILTY. THERE'S YOUR SOURCE APOLOGIST!!!
Could you perhaps scream a little louder with your caps lock. I don't think everyone saw your inane post.
Seattle Believer:
Francis, the talking Roman Church Mule, spearheaded the "Sainthood" of Polish Pauly, who, if you believe had no knowledge of church abuse crimes, and who has embraced Benny-the Rat-zinger, refuses to open the internal books of Roman Church, Pedophilic crimes to the secular authorities, so the perpetrators of these crimes can be brought to justice.
Yeah, it's just like saying because Adam and Eve sinned, we are all guilty. Oh, wait....
It always seems like the militant atheists are every bit as obnoxious as the militant bible thumpers. Smug, self righteous, intolerant, and hostile. You all deserve each other–who says God doesn't have a sense of humor?
Oh hush up – the same can be said about both sides. You whining about how other people behave on the internet and making stupid generalizations is a waste of time. Go home.
So is posting on the inter webs.
The great thing about militant atheists is that they don't kill in the name of their non-belief.
Atheists are not religious fanatics. They are rational people. Any danger for the pope would come from a religious fanatic or a crazy person. Atheists don't hate the pope, they just don't take him seriously.
BTW why does the pope need security? Doesn't his god protect him?
They know how to feel the power of the MOB.
Ted Kaczynski is an atheist. He's not particularly rational. You paint with a broad brush.
While Ted's actions were deplorable – he is far from unhinged. He made a conscious decision to use violence (again don't at all agree with him) to try and change what he perceived as a path of unimaginable evil for humanity. Read his work, you don't have to agree with him to understand that the man is very far from crazy.
The atheists are not rational. A rational person will always bet on eternal life for himself, even if to him it appears that the chances of winning are astronomically slim!
A rational person does not fall for Pascal's Wager.
God gave is trolls like you, joe, so apparently he has a perverted sense of humor.
So did any of you other posters here about the pope getting stuck in trafic? and they were concerned about his security?
Wow. Moses, who had direct line to the Big Guy, in the Sky, could part the Red Sea, and the Village Idiot, from the Vatican can not even part a traffic jam. Maybe he didn't pay the premiums on his miracles.
The only ones at high risk in Brazil are currently little kids, with all these dirtbag priests accompanying the pope.
Copacabana beach? Perfect location for a papal address. Will there be rows of bikini clad brazilian girls dancing before he starts? Maybe that was the danger for impressionable young catholics the Pennsylvanian bishop mentioned?
according to the bronze age voodoo book, the christian god made the earth and everything on it for man.
if the Christian god was any sort of god, then why:
– would he design hunger?
– would he design disease?
– would he design natural disasters?
– would he design sorrow?
– would he design pain?
– would he design torture?
– would he design war?
– would he design any of the things we are told not to do in the 10 commandments?
because all this is god's design. so he must have thought all these things up. he must have made us and made the world to be this way.
so either he's a pretty inept god, or he's a sadistic, passive-aggressive, narcissistic, childish god
this whole belief has more holes than swiss cheese!
@Bill Deacon
this is your cue to change the subject, accuse me of something and/or insult me.
Seems you have issues with your view on reality.
speaking of passive aggressive, narcissistic, and childish.....
0 changed subject. 2 insults. 0 explanations of the foolishness.
true Christian behavior.
Would you accept an answer if one was given to you?
Sin entered the world and fractured the original design. So he did not design hunger, he designed food, and people perverted it
That is like saying how dare toyota make cars knowing that people use them in bank heist, what the hell is wrong with toyota.
No, it's not like that at all. For one thing, cars exist.
Would you accept an answer if one was given to you?
Sin entered the world and fractured the original design. So he did not design hunger, he designed food, and people perverted it
That is like saying how dare toyota make cars knowing that people use them in bank heist, what the hell is wrong with toyota.
Would you accept an answer if one was given to you?
Sin entered the world and fractured the original design. So he did not design hunger, he designed food, and people perverted it
That is like saying how dare toyota make cars knowing that people use them in bank heist, what the hell is wrong with toyota.
Would you accept an answer if one was given to you?
Sin entered the world and fractured the original design. So he did not design hunger, he designed food, and people perverted it
That is like saying how dare toyota make cars knowing that people use them in bank heist, what the hell is wrong with toyota.
Would you accept an answer if one was given to you?
S.in entered the world and fr.actured the original des.ign. So he did not design hunger, he designed food, and people per.ver.ted it
That is like saying how dare toyota make cars knowing that people use them in bank h.eist, what the h.ell is wrong with toyota.
Would you accept an answer if one was given to you?
Sin entered the world and fractured the original design. So he did not design hunger, he designed food, and people perverted it
That is like saying how dare toyota make cars knowing that people use them in bank heist, what the hell is wrong with toyota.
Would you accept an answer if one was given to you?
Sin entered the world and fractured the original design. So he did not design hunger, he designed food, and people perverted it
That is like saying how dare toyota make cars knowing that people use them in bank heist, what the hell is wrong with toyota.
So you’re saying that your all powerful god could not create a world just like we have now except without the bad things?
I’ll re-quote from above. “so either he's a pretty inept god, or he's a sadistic, passive-aggressive, narcissistic, childish god”
So so sorry I thought it was getting blocked by the spam filter. I did not see my replies.
I think that what really messes with people's ability to not call it all bullshki is the way that an all power and omnipresent being (and all knowing, don't forget that) couldn't see the flaws inherant in the system.
As much as people want to point fingers at humans in religion and say they broke the system... it's like this.
If a watch that was just created cannot tell time correctly, is it the watches fault or the watchmaker? If a system is built inherantly flawed, do you blame the system for being flawed or the one who designed it?
That's one argument that breaks the whole believability thing right there. It gets worse though. If you are a parent, and your child disobeys you, do you kick them out of the house at the first offense and never give them a chance or even teach them why what they did was wrong?
That is not love. That is not even plausable.
(and yeah don't worry about the multiple posting. Some websites accept the command but don't display they have. Hence why when you enter credit card information and hit buy, only hit it once. No matter what.)
Okay, One more time.
IF there is a god similar to the one described in the bible and heaven and hell exist – then all the pain and suffering you keep whining about do not matter. It is not important if this world is just because our time here is miniscule and there will be justice in the next life.
Dog doesn't really want a dialogue. He just thinks he's posed the unanswerable question. Here's the answer:
Ancient man understood himself as the created to God the creator. Thus, God's judgment was his due. Modern man has elevated himself to parity with God and now feels justified in accusing God of getting it wrong. As C.S. Lewis puts it, he has placed "God in the Dock"
The reason God has not made the universe the way you would like it Dog is that he is God and you are not. It's really just that simple.
"Ancient man understood himself as the created to God the creator."
Which ancient men? The ones in Asia? The ones in the Americas? In Africa? Europe?
doG's questions are valid Bill....
But then you'd probably throw out something about any act of God being intrinsically good, no?
because creation of the mentioned elements willfully is sadistic behavior – when ascribed to humans – ones we can manage that is- war, torture , we rightfully call that heinous BS evil....i.e. the Nazis, etc.
all of you, Catholic Churches..did you realize Pope is not important? Jesus is our true savior.. He is King, Pope is not!
The reason popes are important is because they are why you know that. Also, it's not capitalized.
And Honey Boo Boo is important because now we know what "go go juice" is.