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July 25th, 2013
01:12 PM ET

'Slum pope' visits Brazil's poor

By Eric Marrapodi, Shasta Darlington and Miguel Marquez, CNN
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Rio de Janeiro (CNN) - Pope Francis visited one of Rio de Janeiro's most dangerous and impoverished neighborhoods Thursday, saying that no society pushing the poor to the margins can succeed.

"I say: You are not alone; the church is with you; the pope is with you," Francis told residents of the notorious Varginha favela, or slum.

"I carry each of you in my heart, and I make my own the intentions that you carry deep within you: thanksgiving for joys, pleas for help in times of difficulty, a desire for consolation in times of grief and suffering."

Francis, whose concern for the poor has earned him the nickname the "slum pope" in Latin America, is in Brazil through Sunday for World Youth Day, a weeklong Catholic event.

Huge crowds have gathered wherever Francis goes, providing an early indicator of the new pope's immense popularity during his first overseas trip as leader of the Roman Catholic Church.

On Wednesday, Francis visited a shrine dedicated to the Virgin Mary and what he called "a shrine to suffering," a Rio hospital that treats drug addicts.

Francis traveled to Varginha on Thursday to deliver a speech on poverty, hope and social justice, steady themes thus far in his young papacy.

"Shortly after his election to the papacy, Pope Francis called for a 'church for the poor,' " said the Rev. Thomas Rosica, a Canadian priest who assists the Vatican communications department.  "His visit today ... offers us a unique opportunity to see the Bishop of Rome giving flesh and blood to those words."

The pope was driven to the favela in the open-air "popemobile," occasionally reaching out to touch the crowds. Women along the route thrust infants over the barricades for the pope to bless.

Volunteers linked arms to hold the crowd back in spots without barricades. Hundreds of military and police lined the route, and more than a dozen motorcycle officers followed.

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Brazilian officials have voiced concern about the pope's security, upgrading it Wednesday to "high risk" after crowds swarmed a car carrying the pope shortly after his arrival two days earlier.

Security raised to 'high risk' for pope in Brazil

Varginha is deemed "occupied" by the Brazilian government after police took over the community last year, forcing out drug gangs who had controlled it for decades. Despite the heavy police presence, locals say the area remains dangerous after dark.

In Varginha, Francis stopped at a small stone Catholic chapel called San Girolamo Emiliani, where he said a short silent prayer, blessed a new altar and presented the community with a new chalice.

Outside, a group of children presented the pontiff with a soccer scarf from his favorite Argentine club.

From the chapel, he walked in the rain into a house and then to a soccer stadium, weaving from one side of the road to the other and greeting onlookers with a broad smile splashed across his face.

At the soccer stadium, a crowd of 3,000 gathered, including Marilene da Luz, a retired cashier who jumped up and down to the music playing.

“He’s such a humble man, it makes sense that he comes to the favelas; this is where the humble people are,” da Luz said.

Speaking in Portuguese, the pope told the rain-soaked capacity crowd he wanted to visit every house in Brazil and have a small coffee with people. But “no cachaca,” he joked, referring to the strong Brazilian liquor popular with the poor.

Francis addressed the crowd in plain language, telling them that even the poor have much  to offer.

"You can offer the world a valuable lesson in solidarity, a word that is too often forgotten or silenced, because it is uncomfortable,” the pope said.

Francis' visit comes after a month of antigovernment protests in Brazil that often turned violent. Protesters have cited their anger over corruption and lack of government services.

At Varginha, the pope seemed to speak directly to those concerns and was met with cheers.

"Brazil, there are many young people. Dear young friends, you have a particular sensitivity towards injustice, but you are often disappointed by facts that speak of corruption on the part of people who put their own interests before the common good," he said.

"To you and to all, I repeat: Never yield to discouragement; do not lose trust; do not allow your hope to be extinguished."

Pope Francis embarks on historic trip to Brazil

“No amount of ‘peace-building’ will be able to last, nor will harmony and happiness be attained in a society that ignores, pushes to the margins or excludes a part of itself,” he said.

“The measure of the greatness of a society is found in the way it treats those most in need, those who have nothing apart from their poverty!”

The pope stressed that a nation must be built on the fundamentals of life, family, education, health and security.

"Let us always remember this: Only when we are able to share do we become truly rich," he told the large crowd, including slum residents, gathered in the soccer stadium. "Everything that is shared is multiplied!"

Even in Varginha, a neighborhood where poverty, drugs and violence had run rampant, hope must continue, he said.

“Situations can change; people can change. Be the first to seek to bring good; do not grow accustomed to evil but defeat it.”

Later Thursday, the pope was to lead a religious service on Copacabana Beach, with upward of 1 million Catholics expected to attend.

CNN’s Barbara Arvanitidis, Hada Messia and Daniel Burke contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Brazil • Catholic Church • Economy • Pope Francis • Poverty

soundoff (370 Responses)
  1. kobi

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    July 27, 2013 at 2:35 am |
  2. Felipe

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    July 26, 2013 at 7:04 pm |
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    July 26, 2013 at 7:03 pm |
  4. lemon

    will the pope be staying for the 2014 FIFA?

    July 26, 2013 at 1:07 am |
  5. THE TRUTH FROM ALLAH ONLY

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    July 26, 2013 at 12:47 am |
    • danny

      allah of the muslim are the alien,,,maria is a kind of virus and vatican is a 3-13-2013 called evil and what is your prove that this two religion have connection to the god

      July 26, 2013 at 3:39 am |
      • Anita Dollar

        Are you serious? Both religions stem from the Abrahamic God. Gtfo.

        July 26, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • Eternal One

      what islamofaqscist nonsense propaganda vídeo is this? No christian will ever convert to the sickeing, filthy,satanic false religion of islam. Only mentally sick people and criminals do that.

      July 26, 2013 at 5:08 am |
      • saggyroy

        Now apply the same logic that you use to dismiss Islam to Christianity, and you might have something (only disturbed mental people would believe Jesus was the son of God).

        July 26, 2013 at 6:02 am |
      • helio

        In all this video, look for a woman. They aren't there, isn't? because they are considered second class. I don't want a religion like that, in the name of my mother and sisters!

        July 26, 2013 at 8:47 am |
        • jazzguitarman

          I assume you're not a Catholic since women are second class in the RCC as well. Sadly most religions were created by men for men.

          July 26, 2013 at 3:33 pm |
        • flying spaghetti monster

          Indeed, it's hardly just islam and the catholics. Look at mormonism, baptists, pretty much any fundamentalist christian sect. Women are widely regarded as second in stature before the god creature, and the faithful always have some citations from the bibble to "back up" their mysoginy.

          July 26, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • leonardo

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnh8kdnfYyE

      July 26, 2013 at 1:06 pm |
    • leonardo

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      July 26, 2013 at 1:09 pm |
    • leonardo

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDyOcPdC_0Y

      July 26, 2013 at 1:09 pm |
    • leonardo

      JESUS ONLY JESUS
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      July 26, 2013 at 1:19 pm |
    • leonardo

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUOP7g8cMXw

      July 26, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
      • leonardo

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        July 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • leonardo

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      July 26, 2013 at 1:30 pm |
      • leonardo

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        July 26, 2013 at 1:32 pm |
    • leonardo

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      July 26, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
    • leonardo

      BIG CHURCHS CONSTRUCTION

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmZva-poOUI

      July 26, 2013 at 1:39 pm |
    • leonardo

      NEW CHRISTIANS IN PAKISTAN

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20OoguQVet4

      July 26, 2013 at 1:41 pm |
  6. ragmuloks

    As a brazillian I consider this outrageous – millions are been used to acomodate the pope on a laic country while most part of the population lacks of decent hospitals, schools and sanitation.

    July 25, 2013 at 10:01 pm |
    • marty

      ragmuloks, true, millions have been spent, but in the Traditional Way. That is the govt takes our Money and puts it in their pocket. This is exactly what the pope is preaching against. "Corruption"
      The pope´s visit has done more to increase attention to the needs of the poor than the PT has done in 10 years.
      Sure Money was wasted by Cabral and Paes, that is our way. You and I need to change The Way. Keep fighting irmão.

      July 26, 2013 at 9:26 am |
    • Rhaj - Haja Raza

      I read somewhere that this is one of the thing people criticize Mother Teresa. For sure, or maybe, faith might alleviate the ... discontent (and the pain, but I doubt this one), but faith does not cure illness. And what Mother Teresa was making is a mouroir not an hospital.

      This is "pretty useless", as said Mandela; just "give me some codeine" instead.

      http://www.theonion.com/articles/nelson-mandela-admits-thoughts-prayers-of-millions,32853

      “The capacity of gentle souls to unite their voices in a message of peace and strength is certainly the greatest gift of mankind—I’m not denying any of that. But when you’re a 94-year-old man with a horrible lung infection, you need trained medical professionals. That’s really most important. All that prayer stuff is, frankly, pretty useless.” Mandela said...

      July 26, 2013 at 11:20 am |
      • Anita Nexcuse

        You realize the Onion is a satirical humor site, and not an actual news site, right? RIGHT??

        July 26, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
  7. EX catholic

    Idolatry is not religion people get with it! Idolatry is a SIN a very grave and serious SIN.

    July 25, 2013 at 9:47 pm |
    • dj

      Excathilic you were never a faithful Catholic as you obviously never bothered to understand the church in the first place.
      Idolatry is not practiced in the Church, that is sinful. You don't know or understand the meaning of the word. Sadly, you left the one true Church handed down from Christ directly to Peter, the Apostolic sucessors (Bishops) for a heretical and misguided faith with with no apostolic succession that has since divided into 40,000 different religions and man made doctrines that misguide millions to etternal damnation. Go back and learn the truth and beauty of theone true Church of Christ, the Catholic Church. Go to catholicscomehome.org before it is too late.

      July 25, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
      • Eternal One

        Couldn't say it better myself. protestant religions are all man-made, idolatrous and currupt..they conform to man-made materialistic wishes and not the other way aroud. They were all created by men, charlatans..no wonder you have thousands of them and new ones appearing by the minute.This violates christian doctrine of unity in the church that was the only one created by Jesus Christ himself- the Catholic Church!

        July 26, 2013 at 5:12 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      How can you be so strange, dj? There are no eternal consequences to anything that anyone ever does, so Catholicism is just unfounded beliefs and rituals practiced by people who are comforted by such things. Also, of course it's all idolatry if there is no accessible God that can receive worship. You've made it all up. You worship something you've created. That's crass idolatry.

      July 26, 2013 at 12:24 am |
      • Evelyn

        Again, some people like you speak out on something that you dont understand well or choose not to understand or misinformed.

        July 26, 2013 at 3:29 am |
        • saggyroy

          Well explain it to us then so we can understand.

          July 26, 2013 at 5:47 am |
    • leonardo

      ONLY JESUS IS THE SAVIOR

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBh_uuepPpo

      July 26, 2013 at 1:11 pm |
    • leonardo

      JESUS FOR WOLRD

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAXX-hFhVJw

      July 26, 2013 at 1:16 pm |
  8. dsfdsf

    This pig living in his palace full of priceless art ensure they stay poor in slums by opposing birth control.

    July 25, 2013 at 9:46 pm |
    • Martin

      He actually shun the official papal apartments and instead lives in a much more modest Vatican 'hotel', hateful p r i c k

      July 26, 2013 at 2:14 am |
      • In Santa we trust

        He may be setting a better example but he has made no substantial changes – they still have their own city, the papal apartments still exist, the papal retreat still exists, etc.

        July 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm |
  9. TRose

    He's a holy and caring man trying to make a difference and spread joy in the world, but there's no joy to be found in CNN Comments...just a bunch of sour stone-throwers. Ironic part is that he's praying for the salvation of every soul in the world–including yours. One day you'll thank him. But I'm sure you'll have some snappy comeback to that, too.

    July 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      Is one a sour stone thrower for wishing the RCC would change it stance on artificial birth control as a way to reduce the hardship on the poor? What steps do you recommend? Telling people not to have s ex? Yea, that is going to work!

      Anyone that claims to really care about the poor would help ensure they have access to birth control.

      July 25, 2013 at 9:01 pm |
      • motionlessinpink

        Roman Catholics are not prevented from using birth control nor are they encouraged to have large families. That is a personal choice. We do not use artificial birth control like the Pill, the Patch and IUDs. Artificial birth control is discouraged because it is unhealthy and can cause serious harm to women. There are other methods called natural family planning which are safe and effective. NFP does not pour chemicals into the body which disrupt a woman's natural cycle. It also does not destroy a fertilized egg. Since a woman is only fertile for three days per cycle it is not necessary to continually "prevent" pregnancy with dangerous chemicals and devices. Natural Family Planning does require proper instruction, becoming familiar with your cycle, and keeping track of where you are in the cycle by watching for the physical signs of ovulation. It has no cost and no side effects. As part of marriage preparation Catholics couples are paired with another catholic couple and they discuss how Natural Family Planning works and are available to answer questions.

        July 25, 2013 at 9:49 pm |
        • budda budda

          It's interesting how religion only embraces science that poses no threat to its story....all the rest is heresy...

          July 25, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
        • Mary

          ...Except the pill is made from the same hormones found naturally in a woman's body, same with the patch, same with Deprovera, and the RCC certainly DOES frown upon any and ALL forms of birth control. Yeah, I oughta know. My name isn't Mary for nothing.

          July 25, 2013 at 10:00 pm |
        • Taryn

          So what's the RCC's excuse for telling poor Africans not to use condoms? Hmmmmm?

          July 25, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
        • A Frayed Knot

          motionless,

          The Rhythm Method of birth control wasn't even formulated until the 1930s, and although practiced by some Catholics, it was technically a "sin" until the 1950s (and, even then, the encyclical said use was permitted "under certain circ.umstances").

          For 19 centuries procreation was the only allowed reason for se.xual relations.

          Maybe the Church will come around some day about condoms too, until then, Phooey on 'em.

          July 25, 2013 at 10:47 pm |
        • Do you know what they call people that use the rhythm method of birth control?

          Parents!

          July 26, 2013 at 4:34 am |
      • Just Passing Through

        Not the RCC's biggest fan, but to their credit, studies (albeit limited studies) have given Natural Family Planning (a RCC-approved method of contraceptive) is about 99% effective- just as good as the Pill or a condom, and is far less expensive. Wouldn't that be BETTER for these people???
        I wish there was more research out there.......

        July 25, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
        • Taryn

          Going to Africa soon to teach the indigent NFP? No? Didn't think so.

          July 25, 2013 at 10:26 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          That is a very optimistic assessment nearer 70% is more realistic.

          July 26, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      If he saves my soul, well then I'll certainly thank him. In the meantime it all seems kind of fanciful. The earthly representative of a God that seems unreal to me hopes to save something I don't know that I have, but which he is sure is a terribly important part of me. He seems like a nice enough guy, though.

      July 25, 2013 at 9:06 pm |
    • stephen48739

      Read any CNN article concerning poor folks and the haters in the comments always dominate rather than those with empathy for those less fortunate. I'm not a member of the RCC, yet, I like what Pope Francis said in this article ie... grab some good Karma for yourself and help someone less fortunate than yourself. Or, you could eat, drink and be merry. We each have a choice....care only for ourselves and our own or store our treasure in heaven, where rust and moths don't destroy.

      July 25, 2013 at 10:34 pm |
    • saggyroy

      Yeah praying, That'll help.

      July 26, 2013 at 5:49 am |
  10. chuck

    Is he going to visit the slums of Chicago, Detroit and DC?

    July 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm |
  11. Gus

    The Pope is spending time at a lower socio-economic level in Brazil what Obama does not do it yet

    July 25, 2013 at 8:38 pm |
    • Athy

      Want to try that again, Gus?

      July 25, 2013 at 8:53 pm |
  12. Even when a guy tries to spread words of hope...

    People just seem to complain.

    Thank you for doing anything, whiners.

    July 25, 2013 at 8:17 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      I donate to organizations that help poor people get access to birth control. Limiting births until a nation's infrastucture can keep up with population growth is the most effective way to assist the poor. What bright ideas dpto you have and who are you helping?

      July 25, 2013 at 8:21 pm |
  13. Oh Lord Jesus, it's a fire!

    I think it's funny that this pope does things the pope was always SUPPOSED to do, like visit the poor, or kiss babies...and since it's so out-of-the-ordinary for us to see popes doing this, it's suddenly news. I like this guy.

    July 25, 2013 at 7:58 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      Well those things you feel a pope is supposed to do are not helping the poor in any practical way. Wouldn’t it be better for the poor if the pope authorized the local churches to provide birth control?

      July 25, 2013 at 8:03 pm |
      • k

        No. That wouldn't help them ... except help them shirk their responsibilities.

        July 25, 2013 at 8:10 pm |
        • jazzguitarman

          Having free access to birth control and the education on how to use it wouldn’t help poor people? You must be joking. Being responsible requires one to only have children they can afford to support. What is your idea of being responsible? Not having s ex? Yea, that is going to work in a country like Brazil! Are you really that clueless? Either way I see you have no compassion for the poor.

          July 25, 2013 at 8:19 pm |
        • k

          Yes ... I do expect people to exercise some self control and discipline. It's far, far, from impossible. People are just too selfish ... they want it all. They want to do whatever feels good to them without any of the responsibilities that come with it. You and your artificial birth control are simply enablers.

          July 25, 2013 at 8:37 pm |
        • myweightinwords

          I think you are mistaken, k.

          Access to birth control and education on the proper uses (like, even if you're on birth control, the guy should still wear a condom) of it, as well as true education about intercourse, what causes disease and how giving birth affects the female body is one of the most responsible things we can help the poor with.

          We will never see an end to poverty until no woman is forced to carry and birth a child that she can not financially support.

          July 25, 2013 at 8:43 pm |
        • jazzguitarman

          K: It appears the only recommendation you have for helping the poor reduce the number of children they cannot support is to scold them. Yea, that is going to work. But I guess it makes you feel better.

          July 25, 2013 at 9:03 pm |
      • nelson jones

        jazzmanguitar:

        No. Providing birth control would not help the Roman CULT cause. You see, the Papa needs lots of non-critical thinking servants to procreate lots of baby, Roman Catholic-bots to indoctrinate into the faith, so as adults, they too can flock in kind, to see the greatest fraud ever foisted upon the World.

        July 25, 2013 at 8:20 pm |
        • jazzguitarman

          I agree with you. The RCC cares more about increasing their numbers than if poor people have the financial means to care for the children they bring into this world.

          July 25, 2013 at 8:23 pm |
      • Martin

        Gives people hope. It makes the poor and disenfranchised feel like they are worth something.

        Coming from an hyper-capitalistic and consumerist society, you wouldn't know anything about that

        July 26, 2013 at 2:16 am |
  14. clifford99

    Head of organized pedophilia that believes that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father and wishes that we symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood and meditate telepathically to him to be our master so that he can remove an evil force from our souls that exists in all mankind because a middle-eastern rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat an apple from a magic tree. Sheeesh!!!

    July 25, 2013 at 7:50 pm |
    • Athy

      Makes perfect sense to me!

      July 25, 2013 at 7:56 pm |
    • flying spaghetti monster

      My favorite part of the bible has always been where the god-creature commands abraham to murder his son, and then peeks out from behind the clouds to say "psyche! I can't believe you were really gonna do it!" just when abraham's about to.

      July 25, 2013 at 8:07 pm |
    • Martin

      Ever heard of "metaphors"?

      The only people stupider than religious fundamentalists are secular fundamentalists who can't conceive that some scriptures were meant as metaphors.

      July 26, 2013 at 2:18 am |
      • flying spaghetti monster

        Ahh, of course. Only SOME parts of the bibble are supposed to be taken literally... the rest are "metaphors" that only the truly faithful can interpret and understand. Give me a break.

        July 26, 2013 at 11:55 am |
  15. Ceilo

    Umm... if you care so much about the world's poor, why not stop praying for them and use some of your millions/billions of dollars that's spent on your churches and palaces and buy some of those people a home?

    July 25, 2013 at 7:11 pm |
    • jazzguitarman

      It would be better for the poor if the RCC spent that money to provide free birth control to them.

      July 25, 2013 at 7:57 pm |
  16. lionlylamb

    What the RCC seems to keep under wraps is that everyone of us are ambassadors to the Godly like empires that dwell within each and everyone of our bodies which are their buildings...(See 1 Corinthians 3:9)

    Another issue I have with the religiously devoted is that they deny the scripture that rather clearly states that God and God's family members are just as mortal as we are and their lifespan is around 120 years... (See Genesis 6:3)

    Two simple verses of scripture and the world turns away from recognizing their true worthiness... Shame on you who vow yourself to be Christians and dare not read the writing on the walls...

    July 25, 2013 at 6:47 pm |
    • Jubilee

      God dwells within. He isn't flesh and blood, and Gen 6:3 doesn't state that at all. You've been told this repeatedly, I have noticed. We are not interpreting that passage wrong, YOU are.
      Get a clue, gobbledylion.

      July 25, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
      • lionlylamb

        Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

        Jubilee. please tell me otherwise as you have so scoffed and rebuked what scripture literally dictates..!

        July 25, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
      • lionlylamb

        Also, 1Corinthians 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.

        July 25, 2013 at 7:22 pm |
        • Jubilee

          I just SAID God dwells within us. (WE are God's buildings)

          "My SPIRIT shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh:..."
          God's SPIRIT departs at death of the body, He departs with the soul.

          YOU make a mockery of Scripture, not I.

          You choose to remain willfully ignorant of what it says; that's on you. The next time I see you butcher the Scripture, I will out and out laugh at you.

          July 25, 2013 at 7:44 pm |
        • lionlylamb

          Jubilee wrote, "My SPIRIT shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh:..." God's SPIRIT departs at death of the body, He departs with the soul.

          Your desiring to rake apart Genesis 6:3 by adding your owned version is very disrespectful to scriptures' integrity Jubilee. I did not add nor take away one iota or wordage as you so did do... If one is to take Genesis 6:3 to heart and mind and soulfulness, the LORD is of flesh and bone and He has given freely of himself to live but around 120 years. Your adding of words while not contemplating scripture tells me that your faith has been leveraged and is not wholly faith filled anymore...

          Consider Jubilee this...

          Was not God firstly a spirited essence before taking upon himself a physical essence..? I have long yearned to understand that the celestial cosmos is held all together by God's Holy Spirit which is actually the Spatial Nothingness which holds together the allness of everything celestially endorsed. It makes sense to understand that absolute Nothingness is God's Holiest Spirit and our embodied physical natures are bound up and intertwined with entrails of God's most Holy Nothingness and is returned to God's Holiest Celestial Nothingness upon our deathly departures...

          So then Jubiliscious, which came first, God's Spiritual Being or God's physical being..?

          July 25, 2013 at 8:24 pm |
        • Jubilee

          Lol. Keep making garbage up and trying to fit it to the Word.
          Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol.

          Know nothing.

          July 25, 2013 at 10:37 pm |
        • Taryn

          Hey, lapdog, God was never flesh and blood. Try again.

          July 25, 2013 at 10:40 pm |
      • flying spaghetti monster

        Kind of like how santa clause resides within us.

        July 25, 2013 at 7:53 pm |
        • lionlylamb

          Saint Nicholas would be ever so proud,,!

          July 25, 2013 at 8:29 pm |
      • jazzguitarman

        I find it funny when people have a debate about the true meaning of a given part of the scripture.

        July 25, 2013 at 8:04 pm |
        • Jubilee

          I find it funny that as an atheist you would have any opinion on it at all, since you don't believe in any of it anyhow.

          July 25, 2013 at 9:34 pm |
        • Doobs

          @ jazz

          That one sure went over Jubilee's head.

          July 25, 2013 at 10:59 pm |
  17. Reality

    Too little, too late as flawed theology and history are bringing the RCC and Christianity to a fast demise.

    July 25, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      No fear, Reality. By the the time they're gone we will have made excellent recordings of event the most virulent religious minds. Those will be kept in a vault, I'm sure, but you should be able to get some pretty decent material at Redbox. Run it on your own wetware. Be the Catholic you've always known you could be. Give Mormonism a spin. Or Southern Baptist.

      July 25, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
    • nelson jones

      Reality:

      Yes! Hopefully, this Roman CULT is destroyed in the near future.

      July 25, 2013 at 8:29 pm |
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