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 iReporter Isaac Manriquez photographed this scene in Guadalajara, Mexico, of church members gathering for a "holy supper."
August 13th, 2013
01:57 PM ET
iReporter captures 'holy supper' scenes in MexicoBy Sarah Brown, CNN (CNN) - Every August, devotees from the Light of the World Church, or La Luz Del Mundo, based in Guadalajara in central Mexico gather for a “holy supper,” or “santa convocation.” The event is a remarkably colorful occasion for the church, which says it follows the beliefs of the “primitive” or early Christian traditions. Crowds of worshipers who had traveled to the country from as far afield as Israel spill out into the city’s streets, holding parades and festivities that go on for days.The event reaches its peak Wednesday when the actual holy supper celebration is held in the church’s main building in Hermosa Provincia in Guadalajara. The supper, says church member Isaac Manriquez, represents “the maximum expression of faith” for worshipers attending the event. Manriquez, from Deming, New Mexico, where the organization has a congregation, says he has been helping out at the ceremonies since he was small. He sent in these images of the church’s members parading down the main thoroughfare called the Calzada, which leads to the main temple. Sharing photos of his fellow church members was, for Manriquez, a chance to inform others about his faith. For him, the event is about reuniting with international friends and reaffirming his commitment to his religion. “The event is very important for me and for those who share this faith,” he said. “What inspired me … was seeing thousands of people from different nations with the same faith united as if they were one. Even though they were from different races and spoke different languages - there seemed to be nothing that separated them.” Read Manriquez' iReport submission and see more of his photos here
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BUEN TRABAJO
iReporter captures 'holy supper' scenes in Mexico
By Sarah Brown, CNN
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How do you know that Jesus wasn't lying? Everything you know is based on his words. If Jesus was a liar, then God might not exist in the form that you think he does.
Lying about what?
NOTHING is based on the character of Jesus' words. Jesus never wrote anything. All of the supposed things that the Jesus character said were written by multiple anonymous authors many decades after the supposed death. At best second hand hearsay. It's a fairy tale for grownups.
JAMES, JESUS' BROTHER, WROTE THE BOOK.
the most separate time in america is sunday morning. divided first by religion, then by denomination, then by race. whites go to white churches, blacks to black churches, latinos to latino churches... religion brings people of different races at one-off events like the one in mexico, but generally it separates.
Our church has white couples, black, his panic and asian as well as mixed. Because of sharing faith and ministry together, I am friends with millionaires and laborers, sometimes people I would never have the opportunity to even meet otherwise.. You over generalize
Very true, Bill Deacon, one's faith isn't only for a certain group of people. That is what's so wonderful about God. It brings people of many different classes together.
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How to argue on the internet
sorry, that was supposed to be a google
That was interesting so I googled it for you:
1. Try not to state your position and only attack your opponents. Never defend always attack.
2. Claim expertise either by profession, education or experience. Be prepared to inflate your resume if needed.
3. If losing, claim the other person doesn't comprehend basic English or that you are having computer problems
4. Call the other person a Nazi
While this isn't my position and may not be a complete list I happen to know these work because I work as an IT consultant for the U.S. government your freeaking Nazi. If you can even understand English, I have to reboot now so, I guess I win the internets!
That tactic fits most nonbelievers arguing on this blog perfectly well.
Lol, Bill.
It should be noted that the use of Godwin's Law is frequently employed in political debates, also; I find when one gets called a Nazi, one has been successful in that debate.
William:
It fits both sides of the aisle.
William,
Hypocrisy and being totally unwilling to answer questions are descriptions for most believers on here. They don't mind telling others how to run their lives but are unwilling to support their statements with facts.
@William, you are right, that profile fits most unbelievers except for the poster "Reality"
"Claim expertise either by profession, education or experience"
"I happen to know these work because I work as an IT consultant for the U.S. government "
thanks for clearing that up, bill
Fail.
If only all these people could get together and DO something good instead of just "congregating".
Yea, they should be posting on the internet instead.
Pot, meet kettle.
This tactic always amuses me.
I know, the nerve of that guy; saying those people need to do something. Hrmph!
You need to use that google. You're poor at this.
Effective cooperation is a learned skill and the successful religions recognize this. Christianity reveals this truth about ourselves most poignantly in the character of Jesus Christ. His message is one of peace, charity, modesty and forgiveness – the traits most important to develop when living in a society.
Shared rituals, hopes and fears (ie: hope of eternal reward/fear of punishment) allows us to extend our sense of community to include those who traditionally would be considered foreign because of ethnicity.
And yet sociological evolution is leading us away from religion – not because Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc are negative in and of themselves, but becuase they are necessarily divisive.
Even ignoring intra-religious sectarian strife (Catholics v. Protestants for example), it is still an "us vs them" mindset. Those who don't follow the same rituals or who don't harbour the same hopes and fears are heathens to be dismissed, converted or condemned.
Ultimately, for t he human race to survive in our new reality of instant, global communication and rapid, fear reaching transportation, we must reject tribalism and unite as a species.
That unity must be grounded in something tangible, observable and repeatable for the entire race. It cannot be predicated on anything supernatural where people can fight over unprovable mythological minutiae.
Aside from that, ny proposition that relies on faith can and will be twisted by unscrupulous individuals. Its just far too easy to manipulate those who are willing to suspend critical thinking and accept something without evidence.
If only Cochrane would hurry up and invent Warp Drive so the Vulcans can make First Contact! Then we can do away with money, hunger and racism.
And also get it on with green skinned women in go-go boots.
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Sired Doc(king) Vestibule...
Thank you for such a Bloomingdale triangulation of superb wit... While warp fields are still in the works, scientific accolades around fractal cosmologies are nowadays being fermented into the conscious mainstreams whereby the rise and falls of bitter languishing are subjective conclaves around just exactly how many fractals of cosmologies there truly are...
I have found that reasoning out the fractal relevancies of cosmologic orderliness needs only 3 orders. One is the atomized cosmology and the second is the celestial cosmologies while the third and most acclaimed is the cellular cosmologies... Without the atomized cosmologies there would be no celestial or cellular cosmologies and without the atomized and celestial cosmologies there would be no cellular cosmologies...
Doc, I read your comments to the tone of an aging british lord. Amused by your dialogue but none the smarter may I add.
That's funny, because Doc's words were certainly lucid; you must be very much the knowiit-all not to be at least a little edified.
No matter.
I did the same thing with lamelion's post, and my pre-schooler and I were laughing hysterically; thanks for the idea.
seriously ... religion is just a social club to most people. an excuse to get together to eat and drink and talk.
Yes! Exactly!
And there are real values to those things. That is why there are so many religions. No god necessary for a religion to be beneficial to its members.
exactly what I say about Atheism. So just love your neighbor as yourself!
Oh, what a rapier wit you have.
And the Last (holy) Supper? It was not an historic event. See http://wiki.faithfutures.o-rg/index.php/016_Supper_and_Eucharist
An excerpt:
"At the same time, Professor Luedemann concludes that the portrayal of Jesus celebrating such a ritual on the night before his death is not historical. He is clear that there is "no generic relationship" between any actual final meal and the Lord's Supper understood in cultic terms. He also denies the Passover character of the supper as a Markan creation. Like Meier (below), Luedemann does accept the saying (Mark 14:25) about drinking wine in the kingdom of God as authentic. He concludes: (this saying) "hardly came into being in the early community, for in it Jesus does not exercise any special function for believers at the festal meal in heaven which is imminent. Only Jesus' expectation of a the future kingdom of God stands at the centre, not Jesus as saviour, judge or intercessor."
So then Sired Reality...
Can't you write anything of worthiness so you are content to "copy-N-paste" other's words..? How mundane of you...
So then Sired Reality...
Can't you write anything of worthiness so you are content to "copy-N-paste" other's words..? How mundane of you...
Can't you write anything of worthiness so you are content to "copy-N-paste" other's words..? How mundane of you.. hmmmm......
We ask the questions and then seek the answers from those who have extensively studied the subject. Some recommendations:
H.S. Reimarus
R. Bultmann
E. Kasemann
Earl Doherty
Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy
Alvar Ellegård
G. A. Wells
Gregory Riley
Robert Eisenman
John Dominic Crossan
Robert Funk
Burton Mack
Stephen J. Patterson
Marcus Borg
Stevan Davies
Geza Vermes
Richard Horsley
Hyam Maccoby
Gerd Theissen
Bart Ehrman
Paula Fredriksen
Gerd Lüdemann
John P. Meier
E. P. Sanders
Robert H. Stein
Karen Armstrong
Albert Schweitzer (The Quest for the Historical Jesus)
Mahlon Smith
Elaine Pagels
Edward Schillebeeckx
Bishop NT Wright.
Father Raymond
Luke Timothy Johnson
One result for the new members of this blog:
The Apostles' Creed 2013: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)
Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??
I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)
Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,
He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
Jerusalem.
Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.
Amen
(references used are available upon request)
Evidence which proves god exists is overwhelming. It is abundant, plentiful, convincing.
What we do know without any help from the gods: (from the fields of astrophysics, biology, biochemistry, archeology, nuclear physics, geology and the history of religion)
1. The Sun will burn out in 3-5 billion years so we have a time frame.
2. Asteroids continue to circle us in the nearby asteroid belt.
3. One wayward rock and it is all over in a blast of permanent winter.
4. There are enough nuclear weapons to do the same job.
5. Most contemporary NT exegetes do not believe in the Second Coming so apparently there is no concern about JC coming back on an asteroid or cloud of raptors/rapture.
6. All stars will eventually extinguish as there is a limit to the amount of hydrogen in the universe. When this happens (100 trillion years?), the universe will go dark. If it does not collapse and recycle, the universe will end.
7. Super, dormant volcanoes off the coast of Africa and under Yellowstone Park could explode cataclysmically at any time ending life on Earth.
8. Many of us are part Neanderthal and/or Denisovan.
Bottom line: our apocalypse will start between now and 3-5 billion CE. The universe apocalypse, 100 trillion years?
We are living on a ticking time bomb!
That we are !!
Please cite reputable references to support your claims.
http://www.universetoday.com/18847/life-of-the-sun/
solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Asteroids
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/30/us/wus-supervolcanoes-yellowstone
Search for Paul, book by Professor JD Crossan
Rabbi Paul, book by Professor Bruce Chilton
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/study-finds-star-formation-declining-throughout-the-universe/
http://www.un.org/disarmament/WMD/Nuclear/
@hharri
"Evidence which proves god exists is overwhelming. It is abundant, plentiful, convincing."
So, present some.
or ... "so invent some"
@hharri
hhar, hhar, hhar, hhar!!!!
I get it, your comment was a joke!
thanks!
Even the physically blind, though they have never seen evidence for it, know perfectly well the sighted rely upon it all the time.
Still waiting for some of your B S "proof" of your god so that we can slap it down like the beotch that you are.
Post anything backing your claim.
hharri,
Nope. Try again with something that actually proves God exists.
if you have this evidence,provide it. otherwise you are like all the other cowardly blovivating christians on these blogs. do you have the guts to submit this evidence, punk?
Sam (or is it Dirty Harry?) what evidence would you like?
what have you got?
Sam...your response is not too dissimilar to me asking my teenager what she wants for dinner, she says I don't know, I offer something up, and she rejects it out of hand. I won't give you the opportunity to do that. So tell me what plausible evidence (see Johnny's response below and my reply), and I'll see what I can do.
...sorry, should have finished the thought..."tell me what plausible evidence you would consider"...is what i meant.
Well?
Well what? Did you not read my subsequent posts? I'm not going to get into an open ended debate. I posed the original question, and I'm not going to allow you to run away from it by throwing it back at me...tell me what plausible evidence you want.
A Conversation,
There are an infinite number of ways for God to prove his existence. For instance, God could take less than 5 seconds to announce all over the world "I am God. Follow my Bible".
Supposedly, that would save billions of "souls", but that is asking too much of God. FIVE seconds!!!
okay, a nice bit of evidence would be an eight figure deposit in my name
but, seriously, what evidence have you got?
give me anything
A digital video of god taken within the last 30 minutes would suffice.
Johnny...sorry, I can't do that for you–been stuck in the office most of the day.
But, of course, your sarcasm actually opens a door, so allow me to walk in...your point is that you want what you know I can't deliver–for instances, a video–thus poisoning the well at the outset. Why not ask for something plausible instead.
Observer...He did that...but our pride, developed over time, said nah, it didn't happen. But, again, the proof you are asking for is similar to Johnny's– you want something you know I can't give you so the debate is poisoned. Why not simply ask me to give you something (that is plausible)?
oops! that was meant for Observer just above.
A Conversation
"Why not simply ask me to give you something (that is plausible)?"
Not plausible? Less than FIVE SECONDS? God can create the universe but can't make a vocal announcement?
Please get serious.
God can do this–yes. We both know I won't be able to get him to do it. Why not ask me for something I can produce? Why is that so hard for you? Are you afraid of the answer?
the initial claim was that the existence of god was "abundant, plentiful and convincing"
i was just asking for the evidence
i am willing to consider any evidence you have
is that too difficult?
apparently, asking the pious to support their own statements makes them run
abundant AND plentiful? wow, that sure makes your argument stronger
iReporter captures 'holy supper' scenes in Mexico
should be renamed:
iReporter captures large cult gathering in Mexico
All religions are cults. a religion is called a cult when it's not accepted by the surrounding society. when a cult gains acceptance, it becomes a religion. when there are no more followers for a religion, it becomes a mythology. some cults/religions are more dangerous than others, promote crazier ideas than others, are more harmful than others, etc. basically, some are "worse" than others in the beliefs they promote, but they all promote ignorance at the end of the day. they all ask their followers to believe in magic instead of fact.
So then sired Booty funk...
Are you cultivating a cultured assemblage of nuanced cult-like refrain,,?
are you even trying to form a coherent sentence...?
Did my view seem like an overly congruent assemblage of high-mindedness going beyond the generalized participants of grammatical referencing..?
No it looks more like you just picked a bunch of words at random and threw them together.
it's a lame word salad
Sired Johnny...
The overall of English vernaculars will always show me and others as to someone's adeptness around their abilities to know of all worded transcripts of the English Language...
So basically what you are saying is that you choose to look stupid. Got it.
You write poorly. Stop thinking your writing is superior, and we're too stupid to understand. You deliberately write in an obfuscating manner to stroke your own ego, and you bloody well know it. Knock it off. You look absurd.
Sired Johnny... Come lately..?
Sired Teresa...
Your inabilities toward any deciphering of worded manuscripts shows to me that you are still an underdeveloped hominid... 😳
You inability to write effectively shows me you are an uneducated buffoon trying masquerading as an intellect.
This isn't the 16th Century, and you're a posturing clod.
LL you like to tell us that you have a superior intellect, and that your language skills while unintelligible to educated folks is meaningful. What University allowed such convoluted musings to be come common place.?
word salad
Love let us...
Love lettuce...
Let us love...
Lettuce love
You sound like a bad restaurant corporation's slogan. Oh, yeah, Lettuce Entertain You. Stolen. Nice.
Let us leave? Lettuce leaf?
one click, lameloin, you could be on your knees in front of your savior, using your purty mouth for some good
more lameloin drivel. how absolutely delightful
Very cool pictures of a very cool gathering, displaying the capability of the goodness of man ... what a shame it's not celebrating the wonder of the universe or the wonder of nature rather than some primitive, bronze age, voodoo story book.
why can't we celebrate fact rather than fiction?
agreed. we don't need religion to come together and celebrate. i have hope that one day churches, currently bastions of ignorance, will some day be places where communities meet, talk, sing, show affection, figure out solutions to problems, share logic, reason and compassion - all without the guilt, fear and ignorance that comes with christianity. hopefully people at such gatherings will say, "can you believe churches used to be places where cults gathered?"
Oh, gawd, shaddup already.
Both of you.
settle down, Og.
oggie ... don't annoy the doggie!
Sired Booty funk...
Your rather loathsome bastions of provoking bitterness upon religiously endearing qualities of God-enhanced socialized relationships strengthens only the embittered frugalities of the irreligiously wayward confidants...
Why is it that you insist on writing in a way that nobody can understand? If you think it makes you look smart then you are wrong because it actually has the opposite effect.
Sired Johnny...
Have you ever read Shakespeare or picked up a book of mathematical trigonometry..?
@lame
have you ever written a coherent sentence?
Oh, I get it. You think you are Shakespeare. Religion isn't the only delusion you have I see.
Sired Dyslexic doG...
Your agelessness is showing...
Sire Johnny come lately...
I am no Shakespearean debutante yet I am a well versed 58 year old male whose English vocabulary goes beyond the boundaries of many a simpleton whose vocal indecencies are lessoned as being that of a 5th grader going to high school and failing to rightly pass along except for the school's beneficial graded scalar benefits...
Absolute drivel. Gibberish.
@lamelionheart
Clasic literature has nothing in common with math books. One is poetry that inspires creative thought and entertains; the other attempts to provide knowledge.
how lame of you to put them so casually into the same category.
"Have you ever read Shakespeare or picked up a book of mathematical trigonometry..?"
Trigonometry IS mathematics. Just one more example of a pitiful attempt to make simple statements look more grandiose and more intelligent. Same old pathetic ego trip.
We do understand Lion! After years of reading the KJV you can understand any form English takes.
Mass delusion at it's finest.
Its, not it's.
"“What inspired me … was seeing thousands of people from different nations with the same faith united as if they were one. Even though they were from different races and spoke different languages – there seemed to be nothing that separated them.”"
want to experience the most racially divisive time of the week in the U.S.? go to the South on sunday morning. whites are in white churches, blacks in black churches, latinos in latino churches. you may get religious racial mixing at one-off events like this one in mexico, but in general, religion keeps people racially divided.
Sired Booty funk wrote, "you may get religious racial mixing at one-off events like this one in Mexico, but in general, religion keeps people racially divided."
Religion does not keep people "racially divided"... People are more comfortable with their owned clansmen thereby interracial divides are found within religious diversities...
I attend no church Booty funk and will not due my beliefs that our bodies are the true churches of godly transfigurations being as embodied kingdom domains venturing wherefrom our bodies are either temples or warehouses or condominiums for which God's "treed" family generations live out their days...
word salad
prose unusual
surely you must
be delusional
@lame,
The thesaurus is not your best friend – just be yourself –
Sired D. doggie...
Dyslexia must be your faultless commodity... Eat more fruit...
Sire last stone carver...
"Thesariatica" is a stone's throw apart from my studying ways... I carve away at worded triangulations symmetries while the commoners still use their wooden utensils to chip and chirp...
You are the commoner with delusions of grandeur. You need to quit pretending to be a wordsmith, for you show your immature knowledge of English and grammar with every post.
It's not us. It's you.
I agree. You can tell what race worships at most christian churches by the race of the figure nailed to the cross.
I always had a problem with the idea that christians couldn't accept their savior for who he really was, skin tones and all.
Nice pictures!