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August 23rd, 2013
10:12 AM ET

Note to all Catholic lawmakers: expect to be getting a call from your local archdiocese.

By Dan Merica, CNN
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Washington (CNN)–With the goal of urging the House to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill, the Catholic Church is organizing a targeted effort to push immigration reform in the pews and target Catholic lawmakers – particularly Republicans – who may be on the fence over the politically tenuous bill.

The movement, which was first reported in The New York Times, will include coordinated immigration reform sermons on September 8, as well as targeted messaging of Catholic lawmakers, including House Speaker John Boehner and Rep. Paul Ryan, the GOP’s 2012 vice presidential candidate.

“It is a critical time for the fate of the bill,” said Kevin Appleby, director of migration policy at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. “The House is dragging its feet and a lot of those who are on the fence are Catholic. They need to hear the message of the church on this.”

Talk of immigration – for the most part – has been quiet this summer. After the Senate passed an immigration reform bill, the House left Washington for vacation in July after not bringing up the plan. Many Republicans have cast doubt on passing an immigration bill.

The Catholic Church has been outspoken about the issue since it was discussed after the 2012 presidential election. “We pray for a heart which will embrace immigrants. God will judge us upon how we have treated the most needy,” Pope Francis tweeted in July.

For the church, embracing immigration reform serves two purposes, said Appleby: supporting the gospel and responding to “the institutional issues of the church.”

Hispanics – a group widely associated with immigration reform – make up nearly 40 percent of Catholic Church. And according to church figures, since 1960, 71% of the U.S. Catholic population growth has been due to the growth in the number of Hispanics in the U.S. population overall.

“We would be derelict in our duties,” said Appleby, “if we didn’t respond to people in our pews that need our help.”

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Bishops • Catholic Church • Christianity • Church and state • Immigration • Mass • United States

soundoff (288 Responses)
  1. Andrew

    I don't live in the US but would love to get a green card......

    August 31, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
  2. Mike

    Nothing wrong with taking care of the needy, but it can be done other ways than allowing illegals into the country. Legal immigration OK. But we can't allow millions of illegals amnesty. That may very well cause millions of legitimate American citizens to become needy...

    August 30, 2013 at 8:08 pm |
  3. 7

    Everyone is welcome to visit... thetreasureofzion.com

    August 30, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
  4. Timmy Suckle

    I kissed my way up to VP at a health insurance company. Now I take over $600,000 of your health care dollars for NO VALUE ADDED to your health care. And that’s just me. Now think about how many other VPs, Directors, Managers, etc. are at my company alone. Now multiply that by thousands of others at hundreds of other health insurance companies. From 10 to 25% of your health care dollars go towards administration that adds NO VALUE to your health care. But my company’s PAC dollars will continue to fool you little people into thinking that a single payer system will be bad. Little people like you are so easy to fool. Little people also don’t realize that a single payer system is the ONLY system that would allow little people (as an entire country) to negotiate better health care prices. Little people don’t realize that the Medical Cartels already know that. And that is the reason why the Medical Cartels spend so much PAC money from the hospitals and doctors lobbying against a single payer system. Some little people say that a single payer system would cost you little people more. But if that were true, then wouldn’t the hospitals and doctors WANT that extra money? Yes they would. So why do the Medical Cartels lobby against a single payer system? It’s because the Medical Cartels know it would allow little people to negotiate better health care prices. And that’s what the Medical Cartels are afraid of. Period.
    But us big wigs at insurance companies, hospitals, and pharmacy companies don’t ever need to worry about health care no matter what it costs. We get our health care paid for one way or another by you little people. And we get the little people that work at our companies to contribute to our PACs. And us big wigs say it’s to protect the little peoples’ jobs. But in reality it would be in the little peoples’ best interest to NOT contribute to the PAC. Again, little people are so easily fooled. I won’t ever have to worry about losing my job with so many little people being brain washed by the Medical Cartels’ PAC money. Not only that, the Medical Cartels’ PAC money is used to elect so many republicans that will never allow a single payer system. Republicans have always fought against any meaningful health care reform. But that’s what our Medical Cartels’ PACs pay them for. Politicians can be bought so easily.
    Pretty soon the only people that will be able to afford health care is us big wigs. And that’s the way it should be. We don’t want you little people using up the resources when we need them. And once again, I thank you little people for capping my SS tax at the $113,700 level. Now I only pay 1.2% SS tax and you little people pay 6.2%. Also, thank you for extending my tax breaks. I’m using the extra money on my vacation houses.

    August 30, 2013 at 10:56 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      Instigating class hatred is passe.

      August 30, 2013 at 11:19 am |
      • But

        But the truth is priceless!!!!!!

        September 5, 2013 at 11:34 am |
    • Tish

      Well, Suckle, you just made a great case for Obamacare. Bet that's not what you wanted to achieve.

      August 31, 2013 at 12:50 pm |
  5. Mim

    This is called money. The Catholic Church will back any policy that would project additional monies in their pocket. If they want to be involved in politics, then pay taxes or get your butts in the poor countries, and start contributing instead of asking the US to do everything for you.

    August 29, 2013 at 12:37 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      I would categorize your response as bigotry. This is not about money, it is about Social Justice, i.e., loving your neighbor. Individuals may be involved in politics (not capitalized for a reason), The Church is not, aside from internal actions that could be called political, but only affecting The Church. The Church will remind us of our obligations as believers in The Gospel but it will not do it in a political way (unless the homilist has strayed). Show me another organization or business that has fed, clothed, housed, and educated more poor people all over the world than The Church before criticizing the money The Church spends.

      August 30, 2013 at 9:51 am |
      • Since when

        Since WHEN has the GOP EVER legislated ANYTHING for the Old, Sick, and Poor. You should read the book "How NOT to Be a Republican" (a.k.a. The Bible) more.

        August 30, 2013 at 11:04 am |
        • Bill Deacon

          Celt isn't talking about Repubs. He's talking about Catholics. The article is about Catholics trying to influence Repubs into immigration reform along the lines of the Catholic faith to which some Repub legislators belong to.

          August 30, 2013 at 11:16 am |
        • SouthernCelt

          Well, Lincoln was a Republican if you want to be political about it.

          August 30, 2013 at 11:59 am |
        • Tish

          Lincoln would be called a RINO and castigated for his views, today. That's if he weren't an out-and-out Democrat.

          August 31, 2013 at 12:54 pm |
  6. HillClimber

    Get the illegal aliens off my land. Make my borders impenetrable.

    August 28, 2013 at 10:07 pm |
    • RoseD

      Thank you. I agree.

      August 29, 2013 at 9:55 am |
    • Durundal

      Its only your land until your gub'mint comes and takes it back because you didnt pay your debt to buy it. Time to grow up and join productive, forward thinking society. Id rather have a hardworking illegal who wants to improve themselves than a closeminded i@ck@zz whose only contribution is more of the same old xenophobia.

      August 30, 2013 at 11:18 am |
  7. tada

    "True Believer Palin's butthole is ripe for the pounding. I would donkey punch her until she passed out in front of her ret@rd son."

    August 28, 2013 at 8:18 pm |
    • Tish

      That's a very gross post, tada. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for fantasizing about such filth, let alone posting it!

      August 31, 2013 at 12:59 pm |
  8. DaveYoung

    I think the Vatican should be opened up for unlimited Mexican immigration

    August 28, 2013 at 3:37 pm |
    • RoseD

      Thank you. I couldn't agree with you more.

      August 29, 2013 at 9:54 am |
    • RoseD

      “We would be derelict in our duties,” said Appleby, “if we didn’t respond to people in our pews that need our help.”

      Why aren't the citizens of Mexico and Central and South America getting help from "THEIR OWN PEWS"?

      August 29, 2013 at 10:23 am |
      • SouthernCelt

        It's likely to be life threatening to go to Church in some of those countries, assuming someone hasn't murdered your Priest. Tell me, do you only hate people from Mexico or anyone that speaks Spanish or Portuguese? Can you even tell the difference between someone from Mexico and someone from the dozens of countries South of Mexico? Or do you just hate poor people trying to find a better life for their family?

        August 30, 2013 at 9:59 am |
    • SouthernCelt

      It is open, at least parts of it. Every day. No charge for going to Mass

      August 30, 2013 at 10:57 am |
  9. Red

    In the 159 years the GOP has existed they have never nominated a Catholic President. This fact, along with their taking the pro-life vote for granted, is the reason they lost the Catholic vote 50 to 48 in the last election.

    August 27, 2013 at 11:00 am |
    • porthos01

      They care about money, not religion.

      August 29, 2013 at 1:32 am |
      • SouthernCelt

        Have you ever even been in a Catholic Church or talked to a Priest?

        August 30, 2013 at 10:06 am |
      • SouthernCelt

        And of course you know that Aramis was a Priest, or didn't you read the book Porthos01?

        August 30, 2013 at 10:59 am |
    • SouthernCelt

      Did you ever stop to think as Catholics we may not want the job? Who in their right mind would?

      August 30, 2013 at 10:18 am |
  10. sciencemd68

    I no longer support the Catholic Church financially, in part because of their stance on this issue.

    August 27, 2013 at 9:07 am |
    • Carl O Lamar

      You might as well admit that you don't support the teachings of Jesus Christ as chronicled by four of his apostle-eye witness biographers. They are Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. From the parable of the Good Samritan, to the several quotations attributed to the Teacher wherein he emphasizes that it is our treatment of our fellow man, and especially the poor, needy, downtrodden, sick, young, old, sinner & believer alike that will serve as the primary basis for our individual judgment come the Day we face our God. Selfishness, greed, judgementalism, hate, etc. are not the sort of qualities I would suggest you can defend on that day by explaining that those poor, needy people were deemed unworthy by you & yours for breaking the man-made idea that crossing an imaginary line on his Earth to seek a better life makes one of God's children unworthy of compassion and help vis-a-vis the lesson of the Gospels.

      August 27, 2013 at 10:48 pm |
      • porthos01

        Blah, blah, blah and who cares. They made the stuff up. Do I need to explain it to you?

        August 29, 2013 at 1:34 am |
      • RoseD

        If that's the case, the Catholic Church is so very remise in supporting the downtrodden, poor, helpless citizens of Mexico and the rest of Central and South America. Where's the Church's support. Why do some many citizens of Mexico and Central and South America illegally enter the United States every day. Where's the Church's help in those countries. Considering the Church's wealth in Central and South America, shouldn't be a problem. Why isn't the Catholic church doing something in those countries to help those citizen there. Why is the Catholic Church trying to guilt trip U.S. of American Catholic citizen and our Government into allowing illegal immigrants a free ride into the United States of America? The Catholic Church certainly isn't paying for it. No, just take, take, take, and get richer and richer.

        August 29, 2013 at 10:05 am |
        • SouthernCelt

          You really are ignorant of Catholic Charities? Take the Dominican Republic for example, they are so poor that sick or disabled children are abandoned and left in the street or garbage dump to die. Do you know who picks them up, cleans them off, feeds them, gets them medical care, educates them and takes care of them until they are capable of taking care of themselves? Catholic missionaries. That's where the money goes.

          August 30, 2013 at 10:32 am |
        • Bill Deacon

          I think Rose's answer to your first question would be "yes"

          August 30, 2013 at 10:53 am |
    • SouthernCelt

      But you support it in other ways? Render unto Caesar, etc.

      August 30, 2013 at 11:56 am |
  11. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    At least the Catholic church is being honest (for a change) about their concerns about immigration reform is about their potential loss of revenue from Hispanics.

    August 26, 2013 at 11:47 am |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      I used 'about' three times in a row in the same sentence... and I'm not even Canadian...

      August 26, 2013 at 11:51 am |
      • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

        Canadians don't say 'about', they say 'aboot'.

        August 26, 2013 at 11:52 am |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          I know... but don't ruin the joke I made at my own expense (and Canadian's)

          August 26, 2013 at 11:55 am |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          geesh... come back from vacation and everyone is at your throat... what is this the 'Belief' blog? Oh, wait...

          August 26, 2013 at 11:56 am |
        • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

          One becomes mired in animosity and hatred on these blogs.

          August 26, 2013 at 12:02 pm |
        • SouthernCelt

          Only if they are from the Ottawa Valley. As for jokes, did you hear how Canada got its name? At the first congress they put all the letters of the alphabet in a toque (look it up). Then they started pulling them out one at a time. C, eh?, N, eh?

          August 30, 2013 at 10:37 am |
  12. Honey Badger Don't Care

    Time to pull the tax free status from the Catholic Churches.

    August 26, 2013 at 11:00 am |
    • Sara

      All the rules for a 501(c) stat is that you can't support a candidate or political party. You can do anything else you want in the way of supporting causes.

      August 26, 2013 at 11:02 am |
    • Carl O Lamar

      For urging we follow the well read teachings of the Founder of the Church, Jesus, as chronicled by his companion apostles, Matthew, Mark, Luke & John in their Gospels? Is that really political activity in your opinion?

      August 27, 2013 at 10:52 pm |
    • MJ Quindoy

      http://bigideamastermind.com/bimsys/index/wesc04

      August 29, 2013 at 3:32 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      According to IRS Code 508(c)(1)(A):

      Special rules with respect to section 501c3 organizations.

      (a) New organizations must notify secretary that they are applying for recognition of section 105c3 status.

      (c) Exceptions

      (1) Mandatory exceptions. Subsections (a) and (b) shall not apply to –

      (A) churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches.

      This is referred to as the “mandatory exception” rule. Thus, we see from the IRS’ own publications, and the tax code, that it is completely unnecessary for any church to apply for tax-exempt status. In the IRS’ own words, a church “is automatically tax-exempt.”

      August 29, 2013 at 11:20 am |
    • SouthernCelt

      Given all the Catholic Representatives, that's not likely to happen.

      August 30, 2013 at 10:39 am |
  13. Joe from CT, not Lieberman

    “The House is dragging its feet and a lot of those who are on the fence are Catholic. They need to hear the message of the church on this.”
    Gee. How come they aren't using a different adjective to describe this group – Republican?
    Frankly, I would just as soon NOT have the Church get involved in this advocacy at all. Not that I am not in favor of immigration reform – I am. The problem is once the Church realizes it can use its position to leverage advocacy for this cause, what is to stop them from pressuring lawmakers on that other great bugbear of the RCC – Abortion?

    August 26, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      nothing

      August 29, 2013 at 11:40 am |
  14. mzh

    THE ENTIRE QURAN CAN BE SUMMARIZED IN FOLLOWING VERESE:

    WHO IS ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY
    112:1 – Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,
    112:2 – Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
    112:3 – He begets not, nor was He begotten;
    112:4 – And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.
    20:8 – Allah! La ilahla illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He)! To Him belong the Best Names.

    THE BELIEF:
    3:85 – Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."

    2:285 – The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination."

    2:256 – There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

    August 25, 2013 at 11:10 pm |
    • Reality

      Only for the eyes of our sisters and brothers of Islam:

      Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, the Filipino “koranics”and the Boston Marthon bombers.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud (e.g. Syria, Iraq, Egypt and Pakistan) and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      August 25, 2013 at 11:30 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      We would be more likely to listen if you restrained or refromed your bomb making radicals.

      August 30, 2013 at 10:42 am |
  15. I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

    Test

    August 25, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
    • Athy

      Loud and clear. Well, loud, anyway.

      August 25, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      Appropriate to a Belief Blog. As long as there are tests, there will be prayers in schools.

      August 30, 2013 at 10:44 am |
  16. Robert

    Gawd told me to have waffles. Jemima 14:5.........I had an omelette instead. Eggos 24:4

    August 24, 2013 at 11:55 am |
    • saggyroy

      Thank you Robert! At least some one here knows their Bible!

      August 26, 2013 at 6:16 am |
  17. DonaldH

    Religious leaders need to STAY OUT of politics, lest their "religion" becomes a TAXABLE political action group.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:00 am |
    • skytag

      Normally I would agree with you, but I don't have a problem with them pushing Congress to get something done for a change. Immigration reform isn't comparable to a stance on something like abortion or gay marriage.

      August 24, 2013 at 8:04 pm |
      • HotAirAce

        It is if the stance is based on religious bullsh!t – if the stance put forward is alleged to be what some god wants. And it seems to me that at least one mentally ill delusional believer in here thinks the USA is subservient to the RCC or its alleged supernatural being and has an obligation to change its laws to align with RCC thinking.

        August 24, 2013 at 8:11 pm |
    • K

      Why? People (including like minded people who happen to be in the same organization) can't have a political agenda? I thought the 1st amendment assured people (all people) the right to lobby their government? And what about people like MLK? William Lloyd Garrison, Abraham Lincoln? These people were not "incidentally" religious. And their religious background informed the work they did in society. So what's the problem?

      August 25, 2013 at 4:35 am |
      • Steve

        The difference is MLK and the others were speaking for themselves and NOT getting tax exemption- There is a difference (although you seem to ignore it) between individuals freedom of speech and priest and other religious heads of whatever their religion calls their place of worship using the place of worship to politicizes since to many religious people tend to take the minister/priest/imam/rabbi's word especially from the pulpit/masque/bimma as gospel – add to that the majority of the illegal immigrants they are so concerned about are most likely Catholic and seems the RCC more concerned with increasing the number of Catholics ( as the Democrats are in increasing those likely to vote for them) if illegals get away with the crimes they have committed) Seems those on this more interested in increasing their numbers no matter how wrong it is to legalize illegals and in doing so make it harder for those coming in legally as well as indicating as happened with last amnesty to others it is ok to break the law and sneak in because unlike other countries the USA rewards law breakers

        August 25, 2013 at 8:38 am |
        • RoseD

          Thank you Steve. I share your sentiments.

          August 29, 2013 at 10:16 am |
      • Mickey1313

        Hate to break it to ya, but the churchcannot legally be political, unless they want to be taxed, they must shut the f up, or pay for the right.

        August 26, 2013 at 12:22 am |
        • Bill Deacon

          Hate to break it to you but tax exemption for churches is not based on political disengagement. Tax filing status may be but churches are not required to be 501 or 503 filers unless they choose to.

          August 30, 2013 at 10:51 am |
      • Sara

        Any group of people can do whatever they want as long as they follow the standard policies for campaign funding and disclosure. These rules are there for many reasons, including being certain that foreign powers aren't supporting candidates in US elections. If you let a religious group act as a front for campaign contributions from, say, Saudi Arabia, the whole purpose of monitoring these funds is defeated. If the religious organization WANTs to support a candidate, they just have to fill out more paperwork and disclose donors. They CAN do that, but most don't want to.

        Even without doing this, a religious group can speak freely on any topic it wants to short of actually supporting a candidate. Giving opinions on immigration is perfectly fine.

        August 26, 2013 at 7:49 am |
    • ronvan

      Enough said. Agree totally!

      August 25, 2013 at 6:55 am |
    • DonaldH

      There is NOTHING contained in the Christian religions that mention giving away our country, the United States of America, to anyone who wants to reside here. The Christian bible mentions a code of behavior that we help one another. It does NOT mention that we should NOT follow the laws of our country in the process.
      There IS an established legal process for persons to immigrate into this country. That is our rules of behavior. If people cannot follow the rules, then they do not need to be here, and they deserve the ills that befall them when they are caught for their wrongdoing. Crying and whining when caught breaking the rules does NOT change the rules! Eventually, ev our President will get the message about his violations of conduct in this regard.

      August 25, 2013 at 9:29 am |
      • RoseD

        Well put Donald.

        August 29, 2013 at 10:17 am |
    • Mickey1313

      Agreed, al"of the planed sermons are illigal. We need to raid every theistic group in the nation, and any violating there npo charter, need to be taxed to the hilt, like 99%.

      August 26, 2013 at 12:17 am |
    • Sara

      There is no rule that religious leaders can't speak on these topics. All the law says is that Section 501(c)(3) non-profits can't back candidates unless they file the right paperwork, which includes disclosing all donors. I'm not sure where the misunderstanding of these rules comes from.

      August 26, 2013 at 7:45 am |
      • Bill Deacon

        Public education

        August 26, 2013 at 9:14 am |
    • SouthernCelt

      Did you know that 6 of the Supreme Court Justices are Roman Catholic? The other 3 are Jewish. No Protestants or Muslims.
      We're everywhere. Be afraid 🙂

      August 30, 2013 at 10:50 am |
  18. Phelix Unger

    What's so big about the Big Dipper? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsy pop? Why does blue taste so good? Did anyone see my other sock?

    August 24, 2013 at 12:48 am |
    • Apple Bush

      Phelix Unger you have an impressive intellect.

      August 24, 2013 at 1:03 am |
    • guest

      There is and always will be the argument between theists and atheists about the existence of God. It is a futile argument because neither can win [the argument]. Atheism demands evidence. Theism demands faith; with provable evidence there is no faith. With faith there can be no proof (that is why it is called ‘faith’). Ironically, neither the atheist nor the theist can be satisfied, however both practice the demand of evidence and both exercise faith.
      For example: take the simple light switch; we are told the switch operates a certain light by changing the position of the toggle, by experiment we learn this is true, but at the same time it takes faith to believe that changing the position of the toggle it will ‘always’ produce the same results. What happens if one time the change of the position of the toggle fails to turn on the light? (I’m quite sure many of us have had this experience.) What happened to the evidence of proof? (Of course we know that one or more of several things happened to cause the failure. 1) the light bulb “burned out,” 2) the fuse or breaker failed, 3) the electricity provided by the power company failed, 4) for some reason the switch itself failed, 5) the power line has been severed or maybe, 6) the electric bill was not paid and there could be other unmentioned reasons, but, nonetheless, faith was employed to operate the switch in the first place, even if the expected results failed.
      God expects faith; Hebrews 11:6 says, “Without faith it is impossible to please God.” Obviously, the believer must have faith, while the unbeliever does not/can not have faith [in God]. You can not use/practice that [faith in God] which you do not have.
      Why argue the point?
      P. S. There are many who claim to be Christians who do not use or practice faith therefore their belief in God is useless.

      August 24, 2013 at 9:00 am |
      • UncleM

        There is overwhelming evidence that light switches work (except when they don't for diagnosable reasons) and for the non-existence of the thousands of gods man has made up.

        August 25, 2013 at 11:20 am |
        • SouthernCelt

          Did you know you commonly push a light switch down to turn it off and that water goes down the drain the other way (counter-clockwise) in Australia? (The water thing happens anywhere south of the Equator).

          August 30, 2013 at 10:55 am |
        • Tish

          Every light switch I know of pushes the switch down to turn it off. Your house must be wired oddly.

          August 31, 2013 at 1:17 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        Do you just pick/reply any post at random to post your nonsense too? Just curious...

        August 26, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
      • A Frayed Knot

        guest,
        "faith was employed to operate the switch in the first place, even if the expected results failed."

        No, reasonable expectation was employed, based on numerous instances of verified success. Where is the verified success of faith in the supernatural?

        August 31, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      Why is there an Interstate Highway in Hawaii?

      August 30, 2013 at 10:52 am |
  19. Apple Bush

    Pneumonic Mob

    No air
    Don’t care
    I’m dead
    Not fair
    Slaves
    Each and every one
    Slaves
    Them too
    Children left with what?
    Children left with acid.

    August 24, 2013 at 12:36 am |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      ok

      August 26, 2013 at 12:56 pm |
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