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September 9th, 2013
03:29 PM ET

Fox News host: Atheists 'don't have to live here'

By Daniel BurkeCNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
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(CNN) - Fox News pundit Dana Perino said she's "tired" of atheists attempting to remove the phrase "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance, adding, "if these people really don't like it, they don't have to live here."

The co-host of Fox's "The Five" was referring to a suit brought by the American Humanist Association in Massachusetts, where the state's Supreme Judicial Court heard a challenge to the pledge on Wednesday.

The group's executive director, Roy Speckhardt, called the suit "the first challenge of its kind," but Perino begged to differ.

Perino, who was White House press secretary for George W. Bush from 2007-2009, said she recalled working at the Justice Department in 2001 "and a lawsuit like this came through."

The former Bush spokeswoman added that "before the day had finished the United States Senate and the House of Representatives had both passed resolutions saying that they were for keeping ‘under God’ in the pledge."

"If these people don't like it, they don't have to live here," Perino added.

David Silverman, president of the American Atheists, called Perino's comments "bigotry."

"I, for one, am tired of those Christians, like Ms. Perino, who think that equality is somehow un-American," Silverman said. "If Ms. Perino doesn't like being only equal, it is she who will have to leave America to some other country that doesn't value religious liberty."

READ MORE: Famous Atheists and Their Beliefs 

In 2002, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals sided with atheist Michael Newdow who argued that the words "under God" in the pledge amounted to an unconstitutional government endorsement of religion. The Supreme Court overturned that ruling.

Congress added the words "under God" in 1954 amid the red scare over the Soviet Union. In November 2002, after the Newdow ruling, Congress passed a law reaffirming "under God" in the pledge.

Greg Gutfeld, another co-host on "The Five," continued the discussion after Perino, saying the Pledge of Allegiance "is not a prayer, it's a patriotic exercise. In a sense, it's basically saying: Thanks for giving us the freedom to be an atheist."

The Massachusetts case, which was brought by an unidentified family of a student at a school in suburban Boston, will be argued on the premise that the pledge violates the Equal Rights Amendment of the Massachusetts Constitution.

READ MORE: Behold, the Six Types of Atheists

It is the first such case to be tried on the state level: All previous attempts have been argued in federal court on the grounds that "under God" was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of church and state.

CNN's Kevin Conlon contributed to this report.

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Church and state • Courts • Culture wars • News media • Schools • TV

soundoff (7,255 Responses)
  1. geen

    yeah..right...mentored by that most christian of christian presidents..you remember?..GW, who believes in that christian concept of capital punishment...of that oh-so-very-christian concept of war..yeah..dana..you go, girl! and..does she know how stupid she sounds...a way of giving thanks for the freedom to allow us to be athiests? what the hell was THAT about...ummm..let me see...i give thanks to a god i don't believe in for the freedom to be an athiest which doesn't acknowledge or believe in the god i allegedly give thanks to...hmm...the minute she opens her mouth to say such stupid stuff, one immediately knows two things: understandable how she could admire a moron like GW, and undestandable why she belongs on FOX entertainment network...

    September 10, 2013 at 8:36 am |
    • SouthernCelt

      That pesky First Amendment allows any opinion. All you have to do is live with it. Enjoy!

      September 10, 2013 at 8:44 am |
      • G to the T

        Absolutely – she's free to be an ignorant bigot and we're free to call her on it.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
  2. Sense

    Agreed

    September 10, 2013 at 8:35 am |
  3. Michael

    Why doesn't she leave and move to Israel?
    Calling herself a Christian and yet worjing for an adminstration responsible for the death of 100,000-140,000 civilian Iraquis, women, children, babies among them as well as thousands of fellow Christians.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:34 am |
  4. jimticket

    Most are missing the point. This country was founded on the basis of a Creator granting us certain
    inalienable rights and the Government is supposed to be the protector of those rights. If you don't
    believe in a creator then you must believe that the Government grants you your rights, which is a
    dangerous path to follow. It gives the Government the power to take your rights away.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:32 am |
    • What is going on? FREEDOM

      The people grant the rights for others in this country.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:34 am |
      • atheists KEEP OUT!

        You have the RIGHT to LEAVE. SURELY, nobody will miss you.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:40 am |
        • What is going on? FREEDOM

          WE control this country, not just you. Don't like it then flee to the Vatican you coward.

          September 10, 2013 at 8:44 am |
    • John

      This country was formed by individuals fed up with King George and his ruthless politics. God didn't enter into that picture.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:37 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Your rights have all ready been taken away.
      Since the beginning of the new millenium, you have had no right to privacy.
      Laws against unlawful search and seizure or detainment or the right to a speedy trial – all out the window on the whims of Homeland Security, the FBI and/or the NSA.
      American citizens can be monitored, arrested without a warrant and detained indefinitely without charge at an undisclosed location.
      Read your Patriot Act.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:37 am |
    • dj

      I believe that the government is more than willing and more than able to take your rights whether you believe in the magic sky people or not.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:38 am |
    • The GOP need to pack up and leave

      This country was NOT founded on Christian principles unless Christianity endorses thievery, greed and murder.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:42 am |
    • Observer

      jimticket,

      Words not found in the Consti_tution including the Preamble that describes its purpose:

      God, Jesus, Christ, Christianity, Creator, etc.

      Ooops.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:54 am |
    • grist

      Need to face reality. Governments in fact confer rights. Those countries/leaders who don't want their citizens to have rights, simply don't give them freedom. It is a real world. There is no magic, ghosts or gods..

      September 10, 2013 at 8:54 am |
  5. jimticket

    Most are missing the point. This country was founded on the basis of a Creator granting us certain inalienable rights and the Government is supposed to be the protector of the rights. If you don't believe in a creator then you must believe that the Government grants you your rights, which is a dangerous path to follow.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:31 am |
    • maximusvad

      Failed logic.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:32 am |
    • What is going on? FREEDOM

      No it isn't. We aren't a theocracy; we are a Democratic Republic. Which means WE the people make the decision.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:32 am |
      • Reality

        "We The People" of the U.S. are the legal source of both the gov'ts authority and the rights we reserve to ourselves, whatever the origin of those inalienable rights may be.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:38 am |
    • sybaris

      Which Creator?

      What created the Creator?

      September 10, 2013 at 8:32 am |
      • SouthernCelt

        Obviously you have never read Thomas Aquinas. Try it. Only if you believe in logic, of course.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:40 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      The pervasive mentality of early America was obviously contrary to the "self evident truth that all men are created equal". White, Christian land owners may have been equals in at least an abstract, moralistic context but a slave based economy can hardly be considered egalitarian.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:33 am |
    • Elliott Carlin

      Jim--keep in mind with what we are dealing with: God is mentioned 4 times in the Declaration of Independence and they deny it. Then they ask "which God?" as if a Protestant and/or Theist author would be thinking about a hindu god. Such intellectual dishonesty. Its the last card they can play in this debate. Let them show their ignorance.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:35 am |
      • What is going on? FREEDOM

        The declaration of independence DID NOT state that God created this country nor that God rules this country. Great job in failing to understand the whole declaration of independence and only cherry picking.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:38 am |
        • Elliott Carlin

          There you go again-never said that. I only mentioned God is referred to 4 times in the Dec of Ind and you go off on some theocratic rant. No need to burst a blood vessel. We are only stating our human rights come from our Creator-what the Dec of Ind states. And you have a problem with that. Climb that mountain. Keep trying....

          September 10, 2013 at 8:41 am |
        • Hey! You!

          The Declaration also states that it's natures god. Therefore nature produced god. Hence, we should be worshiping nature.

          September 10, 2013 at 8:48 am |
        • What is going on? FREEDOM

          Elliot you are a fool for not understanding my comment. The term "God" was never used in the sense of creating something. You better read it again or stop listening to that priest that is telliing you that.

          September 10, 2013 at 8:48 am |
      • FreeFromTheism

        Try deist author, genius.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:40 am |
        • Elliott Carlin

          In the atheist world, a distinction without a difference, correct? Don't be dishonest. It shows.

          September 10, 2013 at 8:43 am |
        • Elliott Carlin

          Would love to stay but time for me to go earn some dollars...the ones that state "In God We Trust". LOL

          September 10, 2013 at 8:46 am |
        • Hey! You!

          And When Future Archeologists unearth our coinage, they will think the god we trust looks like Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, or whose image is on the particular coin!

          September 10, 2013 at 8:50 am |
      • Doris

        The God of the Deist founders was quite the different god than that of today's average Christian. He was not a god that was thought to have played an active role in people's lives for instance. Many of the founders refuted the divinity of Christ.

        September 10, 2013 at 9:06 am |
    • Sense

      Exactly

      September 10, 2013 at 8:36 am |
  6. Lewis Black Fan

    Lewis Black said it best – "by the time you really understand what the pledge is about, YOU DON'T HAVE O SAY IT ANYMORE!"

    September 10, 2013 at 8:29 am |
  7. gypsyalso

    i get so tired of this. when we have such awful problems in our country – unemployment – the threat of war, students who cannot read and write, children who do not get enough to eat – we have to listen to this drivel? i am a Christian – but don't believe that those two words in the pledge to allegiance are needed. if we take them out – will we find that God will wipe the country off the map? i don't think so – if you want God in your life and in your country – say your personal prayers – they will have more effect than just habitually repeating the pledge. most people don't even think about what they are saying – how beneficial is that? our time and energies should be spent on doing that which is good for the country – taking care of our people not going on and on about the pledge – which probably doesn't mean a thing to most people.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:29 am |
  8. HFM

    Lets change it to one nation, under Allah...and we'll see how the Christians feel about it then...

    September 10, 2013 at 8:28 am |
    • Mr. Thanatos

      Better yet, leave all religion out.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:40 am |
  9. Chris

    Christians just don't get it. They want to live in Christian world where everyone believes as they do. They can't stop for a second and say "maybe I shouldn't publicly show my religion". They are so used to everyone else being just like them that they refuse to accept others with alternative ideas. If you want us atheists to stop, just stop trying to god everything up. We didn't need the Texas pledge changed, we didn't need the federal pledge changed, and we certainly never needed "in god we trust" on the money.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:24 am |
    • Ralph Barnett

      You atheists are so petty. Be sure you look the definition up before you get back with me on this. This equates to witch side of the fountain I want the button on. What difference?

      September 10, 2013 at 8:32 am |
    • JayJ7

      Thank you for getting to the heart of the matter. It is the constant public coercion that is truly anti freedom. That politicians feel they must publicly state they believe the universe is run by magic is amazing to me.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:36 am |
      • Jeff

        Magic? You're like a blind man trying to convince me that there is no such thing as color. There is a spiritual side of things and spiritual reality.. Just because you can't use your five senses doesn't mean it's not real. Until you have scoured every corner of the Universe and have definitive proof that there is no God, yours is simply a belief..Because in reality You have no idea of the truth.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:44 am |
        • Reasonable

          "Until you have scoured every corner of the Universe and have definitive proof that there is no God, yours is simply a belief."

          Your opinion is also simply a belief. Your logic isn't that far fetched, but it still leaves two plausible results: there is a god or there isn't. As an American (not as an atheist) I don't care what you believe as long as I am permitted the same right. And you words are telling me that you don't believe i have the right to believe what I want, only what you say I can believe. Do you have as big of problem with muslims, jews, hindus or any other religion other than christian, or do you just think atheist are a threat to your way of life?

          September 10, 2013 at 9:43 am |
    • Jeff

      I don't think YOU get it. We know that a world like that isn't possible..The Bible says to let the wheat grow up amongst the chaffe.. Go do whatever you want man .. The problem is you and your comrades are too busy trying to shut Christians up. That's the problem. If you don't believe it, you don't like it, then deal with it, but oh no you can't do that. You demand we be tolerant of you all the while we find situations like this all too common. .Yet we have to deal with the name calling, Christian bashing, the intolerant bigotry and all the trivial law suits to this kind of garbage..especially from Militant Atheists who are pleasant to be around at all, just some really mean ppl...Phrases and sayings like this were perfectly acceptable for a long long time and suddenly they aren't? What changed? And don't act all offended..if you don't like it here, then move. There is place called China where you would go far...Did you know that you have to be a publicly professed Atheist to be a member of the communist party? There ya go...

      September 10, 2013 at 8:39 am |
      • Jeff

        Militant Atheists who are NOT pleasant to be around

        September 10, 2013 at 8:45 am |
    • APS

      Chris, This isn't just a "Christiam" thing. Plenty of Jewish people that I know are OK with the Pledge as is. The words in the Pledge do not say "under Jesus." As a Christian, I treat everyone equally and would never favor any particular religion by saying "under Jesus" or "under Allah" or "under Yahweh" or "under Buddha." It simply says "under God" which is therefore generic for all religious faiths who rely on God for strength and inspiration. Now, as for you atheists, you have the right to simply skip saying those words in the Pledge. In this free country, no one is putting a gun to your head to force you to say them. But don't put a gun to our heads forcing us to take them out.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:47 am |
  10. chiz3914

    The old Love it or Leave it angle. The guy is a jerk

    September 10, 2013 at 8:24 am |
  11. xirume

    ..

    September 10, 2013 at 8:23 am |
  12. Iowa Greenlights

    Ever wondered why God is the center of attention for an atheist?

    September 10, 2013 at 8:23 am |
    • A Dose of Reality

      It's the idiot Theists that are the center of attention. We don't believe in GAWD. Your logic fails....again

      September 10, 2013 at 8:24 am |
    • Rancic

      They have nothing else to do in their life! Judging by the number of comments here, God is a full time occupation for some!

      September 10, 2013 at 8:25 am |
      • No God-Know atheist

        That sounds right.

        If there were no God, there would be no atheists.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:36 am |
    • Idol family!

      we work here 😉

      September 10, 2013 at 8:26 am |
      • Fedora

        Pity you! gathering up the crumbs under the table every single day, eh!

        September 10, 2013 at 8:28 am |
    • FreeFromTheism

      please, tell us

      September 10, 2013 at 8:27 am |
    • Chris

      I don't have to wonder because Christians are always shoving their beliefs in my face and causing stinks with atheists.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:29 am |
    • Hey! You!

      And please, if you're going to make ignorant statements, don't include Iowa in your name!

      September 10, 2013 at 8:30 am |
    • Sense

      It's because they are insecure plain and simple.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:38 am |
  13. Carl pokoski

    In 1956, two years after pushing to have the phrase "under God" inserted into the pledge of allegiance, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signs a law officially declaring "In God We Trust" to be the nation's official motto

    Why do you want to force this nation to be Christian? Just because you are Christian does not make it yours!

    September 10, 2013 at 8:23 am |
  14. AZ

    David Silverman, president of the American Atheists, is calling names and nothing more. go away bigot

    September 10, 2013 at 8:22 am |
    • A Dose of Reality

      A few questions should help shed light on the relationship between religion and rational thought.The completely absurd theory that all 7,000,000,000 human beings are simultaneously being supervised 24 hours a day, every day of their lives by an immortal, invisible being for the purposes of reward or punishment in the “afterlife” comes from the field of:(a) Astronomy; (b) Medicine;(c) Economics; or(d) ChristianityYou are about 70% likely to believe the entire Universe began less than 10,000 years ago with only one man, one woman and a talking snake if you are a: (a) historian; (b) geologist;(c) NASA astronomer; or(d) Christian I have convinced myself that gay $ex is a choice and not genetic, but then have no explanation as to why only gay people have ho.mo$exual urges. I am (a) A gifted psychologist(b) A well respected geneticist (c) A highly educated sociologist(d) A Christian with the remarkable ability to ignore inconvenient facts. I honestly believe that, when I think silent thoughts like, “please god, help me pass my exam tomorrow,” some invisible being is reading my mind and will intervene and alter what would otherwise be the course of history in small ways to help me. I am (a) a delusional schizophrenic;(b) a naïve child, too young to know that that is silly(c) an ignorant farmer from Sudan who never had the benefit of even a fifth grade education; or(d) your average ChristianMillions and millions of Catholics believe that bread and wine turns into the actual flesh and blood of a dead Jew from 2,000 years ago because:(a) there are obvious visible changes in the condiments after the Catholic priest does his hocus pocus;(b) tests have confirmed a divine presence in the bread and wine;(c) now and then their god shows up and confirms this story; or(d) their religious convictions tell them to blindly accept this completely fvcking absurd nonsense.I believe that an all powerful being, capable of creating the entire cosmos watches me have $ex to make sure I don't do anything "naughty". I am (a) A victim of child molestation(b) A r.ape victim trying to recover(c) A mental patient with paranoid delusions(d) A ChristianThe only discipline known to often cause people to kill others they have never met and/or to commit suicide in its furtherance is:(a) Architecture;(b) Philosophy;(c) Archeology; or(d) ReligionWhat is it that most differentiates science and all other intellectual disciplines from religion:(a) Religion tells people not only what they should believe, but what they are morally obliged to believe on pain of divine retribution, whereas science, economics, medicine etc. has no “sacred cows” in terms of doctrine and go where the evidence leads them;(b) Religion can make a statement, such as “there is a composite god comprised of God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit”, and be totally immune from experimentation and challenge, whereas science can only make factual assertions when supported by considerable evidence;(c) Science and the scientific method is universal and consistent all over the World whereas religion is regional and a person’s religious conviction, no matter how deeply held, is clearly nothing more than an accident of birth; or(d) All of the above.If I am found wandering the streets flagellating myself, wading into a filth river, mutilating my child’s genitals or kneeling down in a church believing that a being is somehow reading my inner thoughts and prayers, I am likely driven by:(a) a deep psychiatric issue;(b) an irrational fear or phobia;(c) a severe mental degeneration caused by years of drug abuse; or(d) my religious belief.Who am I? I don’t pay any taxes. I never have. Any money my organization earns is tax free and my own salary is also tax free, at the federal, state and local level. Despite contributing nothing to society, but still enjoying all its benefits, I feel I have the right to tell others what to do. I am(a) A sleazy Wall Street banker(b) A mafia boss(c) A drug pusher; or(d) A Catholic Priest, Protestant Minister or Jewish Rabbi.What do the following authors all have in common – Jean Paul Sartre, Voltaire, Denis Diderot, Victor Hugo, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Immanuel Kant, David Hume, René Descartes, Francis Bacon, John Milton, John Locke, and Blaise Pascal:(a) They are among the most gifted writers the World has known;(b) They concentrated on opposing dogma and opening the human mind and spirit to the wonders of free thought and intellectual freedom;(c) They were intimidated by the Catholic Church and put on the Church’s list of prohibited authors; or(d) All of the above.The AIDS epidemic will kill tens of millions in poor African and South American countries before we defeat it. Condoms are an effective way to curtail its spread. As the Pope still has significant influence over the less educated masses in these parts of the World, he has exercised this power by:(a) Using some of the Vatican’s incomprehensible wealth to educate these vulnerable people on health family planning and condom use;(b) Supporting government programs that distribute condoms to high risk groups;(c) Using its myriad of churches in these regions to distribute condoms; or(d) Scaring people into NOT using condoms, based upon his disdainful and aloof view that it is better that a person die than go against the Vatican’s position on contraceptive use.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:23 am |
      • Gerald

        Great Job!
        Great logic!

        September 10, 2013 at 8:35 am |
      • Sense

        Yeah not reading that LOL I love how you people actually think what you matters to people on the internet of all places.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:40 am |
    • soking1223

      Aunt, deceased, was Daughter of American Revolution member and the family genealogist. It was determined that along with the founding fathers and those who came before, there were Athiests who fled persecution to come here. Fox... Might want to do your research a little better.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:30 am |
  15. StormySyndrome

    I firmly believe that if we were to separate the real Christians in this country from the heathens who profess to be but do not practice it....one would be surprised that there are really less than half the believed number of Christians in the US than thought.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:22 am |
  16. jonp

    White protestant Americans are a dying breed. They become more radical and vocal as they start to feel more desperate.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:21 am |
  17. srcactus

    David Silverman, president of the American Atheists, is calling names and his remarks have no more force of law or decency than that!

    September 10, 2013 at 8:21 am |
  18. John

    I'm a Republican and an atheist. I sometimes watch Fox News. I don't personally mind the phrase "under god" but I support the right of more "militant" atheists to protest the phrase as a violation of the separation of church/god/gods and state. I think Ms. Perino's statement is one of real intolerance and religious bigotry. Who would dare say "if you don't like it get out" in this day and age to: blacks, Hispanics, gays............

    September 10, 2013 at 8:20 am |
    • Sokesky

      Unfortunately, bigoted people say those things frequently. Those love-it-or-leave-it types don't understand what this country is all about.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:43 am |
  19. Badly-Bent

    The phrase, "under god" must really confuse the followers of Hinduism.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:20 am |
  20. A Dose of Reality

    There are many Atheists however who look down upon Christians as being inferior however because they have not made the leap of common sense and logic to understand that their God is a long perpetrated myth. In a sense it is akin to looking at a child who believes in Santa Clause. As adults we know full well he does not exist. The child hasn't grown up enough to shrug off the silly fantasy that has been fed to him/her to placate them. We see ourselves as the new grown-ups and you as the children placated by your Santa. We are urging you to grow out of that myth.

    The thing is, if you had met an Adult who still believed in Santa you would most likely treat them similarly. Think there's something fundamentally wrong with their sense of reality and wish to explain to them how ridiculous it is. The large difference here is in the fact that Christianity as a whole isn't so innocent as Santa. Christianity is guilty of so very many evil deeds in the name of God and the believers in Christianity are guilty of ignorance. Pretend for a second that the majority of people believed in Santa as a true fact and tried to force you to believe, coerce you to believe and judge you for not believing. This of course being the LEAST of what religions have done to people who don't believe them. You know Santa is a farce. You would be annoyed, angry, and feel like common sense had flown the coop.

    That is what Atheists are dealing with.

    All the logic, science, education and clear and obvious data about the world is purposefully ignored by theists and you swallow lies your whole lives, closed off to the possibility that you are wrong. We are not closed off to the possibility that we are wrong.. In fact, that's how most of us got to this stage of sanity. I was a believer who dared to question the "truth" of the gospels. When the answer to my questions were "pray about it" and "have faith" I needed to keep looking.

    We would be less angry if religions kept to themselves and stopped trying to dictate how others lived. If it stayed out of politics, we wouldn't be angry. If it stopped trying to tell people who aren't followers how to live their lives, we wouldn't care what you believed. If religions didn't cause untold millions of deaths, we would just simply giggle at your silly faith. That is not the case at all.

    You don't see us making cases against people who believe in Pagan faiths, we don't typically touch on Buddhism either. Because they don't try to control others. They do their thing and enjoy their beliefs without causing harm. You will never hear any of us speak out against Jainism for example. Never. They have a simple rule "above all, do no harm" and they follow it very closely. If your religion had that as the tenet and nothing else, we would be happy for you.

    Now please, if you don't mind, this is an Atheist page. However you arrived at this page I welcome you to leave it to go to your Theist pages that there are plenty of. OR you can stick around and learn, but keep your judgement to yourself, because we are here to have fun, learn, and laugh.

    September 10, 2013 at 8:20 am |
    • Carl pokoski

      Nice copy and paste. Now tell us reality, please.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:24 am |
      • John

        I have asked the following question many times to those of strong religious convictions and have yet to receive an honest or truthful answer: "What do you do in Heaven?" No one truly knows...oh, they make up stuff based on the 'faith' idea, or 'read the bible.' From the types of answers I get, I don't believe I ever want to go there. I'll ask again: "What do you do in Heaven?"

        September 10, 2013 at 8:44 am |
    • Carl pokoski

      I mean this guy is so far off his rocker, not sure how he even gets around in public. A rascal at Wal Mart will only get you so far.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:26 am |
    • well

      Well athiess typically only speak about xtianity, because they are usually ignorant of religion period. Many make the same "old man in the sky" arguements as if that is the only concept of gad.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:34 am |
    • jimticket

      Most are missing the point. This country was founded on the basis of a Creator granting us certain
      inalienable rights and the Government is supposed to be the protector of those rights. If you don't
      believe in a creator then you must believe that the Government grants you your rights, which is a
      dangerous path to follow. It gives the Government the power to take your rights away. Even an Athiest shouldn't want the government to have that kind of power, though they act as if they do.

      September 10, 2013 at 8:35 am |
      • mickinmd

        This country was NOT founded on the idea there's an outright God. Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and James Monroe, and many others believed the Christian God was ridiculous.

        Yes, many of them believed in a creative force, but "creator" was not thought of in the sense of a God. Not long afterward, the Treaty of Tripoli – initiated under George Washington, signed under John Adams, and ratified under V.P. and Senate President Thomas Jefferson says we are NOT a country whose government is based on Christianity.

        September 10, 2013 at 8:42 am |
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