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September 9th, 2013
03:29 PM ET

Fox News host: Atheists 'don't have to live here'

By Daniel BurkeCNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
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(CNN) - Fox News pundit Dana Perino said she's "tired" of atheists attempting to remove the phrase "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance, adding, "if these people really don't like it, they don't have to live here."

The co-host of Fox's "The Five" was referring to a suit brought by the American Humanist Association in Massachusetts, where the state's Supreme Judicial Court heard a challenge to the pledge on Wednesday.

The group's executive director, Roy Speckhardt, called the suit "the first challenge of its kind," but Perino begged to differ.

Perino, who was White House press secretary for George W. Bush from 2007-2009, said she recalled working at the Justice Department in 2001 "and a lawsuit like this came through."

The former Bush spokeswoman added that "before the day had finished the United States Senate and the House of Representatives had both passed resolutions saying that they were for keeping ‘under God’ in the pledge."

"If these people don't like it, they don't have to live here," Perino added.

David Silverman, president of the American Atheists, called Perino's comments "bigotry."

"I, for one, am tired of those Christians, like Ms. Perino, who think that equality is somehow un-American," Silverman said. "If Ms. Perino doesn't like being only equal, it is she who will have to leave America to some other country that doesn't value religious liberty."

READ MORE: Famous Atheists and Their Beliefs 

In 2002, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals sided with atheist Michael Newdow who argued that the words "under God" in the pledge amounted to an unconstitutional government endorsement of religion. The Supreme Court overturned that ruling.

Congress added the words "under God" in 1954 amid the red scare over the Soviet Union. In November 2002, after the Newdow ruling, Congress passed a law reaffirming "under God" in the pledge.

Greg Gutfeld, another co-host on "The Five," continued the discussion after Perino, saying the Pledge of Allegiance "is not a prayer, it's a patriotic exercise. In a sense, it's basically saying: Thanks for giving us the freedom to be an atheist."

The Massachusetts case, which was brought by an unidentified family of a student at a school in suburban Boston, will be argued on the premise that the pledge violates the Equal Rights Amendment of the Massachusetts Constitution.

READ MORE: Behold, the Six Types of Atheists

It is the first such case to be tried on the state level: All previous attempts have been argued in federal court on the grounds that "under God" was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of church and state.

CNN's Kevin Conlon contributed to this report.

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Church and state • Courts • Culture wars • News media • Schools • TV

soundoff (7,255 Responses)
  1. Ruthann Adamsky

    I'll tell you why it's important; I was forced into making the pledge every day because no one would stand up for my right to decline to do so. Children in public schools are required, by law, to be there. Unless their families can afford to send them elsewhere, they have NO choice. That is why no one should be allowed to force any religious doctrine, no matter how brief, on them. They have no choice; they are children.

    September 10, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
    • doobzz

      Bravo!

      September 10, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
    • Mom

      They still have the choice not to say Under God. Their parents just need to tell them not to. How hard is that?

      September 10, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
      • tom

        Harder than it should have to be.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
      • doobzz

        It's very hard when the teacher, the principal, the administrators and the other children say it, and point out that you aren't saying it.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
      • cedar rapids

        why should they be forced to have to make a choice when reciting the pledge to their country? isnt the whole point of a pledge to be something all can say at any time?

        September 10, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
      • Brian

        Then take the words out and have your child recite under God...how hard is that?

        September 10, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
        • Cpt. Obvious

          Brian's answer is the correct response.

          September 10, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
  2. Ares

    I personally don't care if you worship a rock but even I don't care to see the word "god" plastered on my money or forced into the pledge of allegiance. Same with putting my hand on the bible in court for the swearing in (which I believe they did away with) as if that would have make me tell the truth. Oh no, a god might punish me if I lie. Silly zealots fearing an absent super being overlord.
    BOW!!!!
    YIELD!!!!!
    KNEEL!!!
    AND GIVE ME YOUR MONEY, ERR UMM, I MEAN DONATIONS.
    .....and if you follow the pedophile Mohammed.
    GIVE ME THE TIGHT YOUNG STUFF.

    September 10, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
    • mjbrin

      as for money, i was thinking about just that. after looking at some coins didn't Jesus say give to Caesar what is Caesars and to god what is god's.........? maybe the religious folks are trying to get a way to get a bigger share of the money......?

      September 10, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
      • Bible Clown©

        Good point. Churches shouldn't coin money for secular trade, and governments shouldn't be churches.

        September 11, 2013 at 10:24 am |
  3. Chris

    People don't realize that atheism is a religion too. Their god is no god so why not leave god in the pledge of allegiance, on dollar bills, and in political discussions? Our founding fathers established our nation believing in God, and I sure trust their judgment then anyone else's today.. If they want religion separated from government, then who wins?

    September 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
    • What is going on? FREEDOM

      Atheism isn't a religion. We don't believe in any gods plain and simple. Religion relates to believing in a deity.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
      • razmataz

        Please tell me which god Buddhists believe in, if you can. Yeah, thought so! you really shouldn't post your ignorance here for the world to see.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
        • What is going on? FREEDOM

          Buddhism believes in a spiritual force. Dur da dur. Now who is acting all ignorant?

          September 10, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
    • The Bible is a book of badly written fairy tales

      And people like you continually try to convince people that atheism is a religion when it's not. You may want to re-think this one, Chris, because you're way, way off base in your line of reasoning.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      I hope that you are not actually as stupid as you appear... please don't breed and inflict more of your kind on us...

      September 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
    • reasonableburgy

      Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
    • reasonableburgy

      Bill Maher said it best: atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
    • Just the Facts Ma'am...

      "Our founding fathers established our nation believing in God, and I sure trust their judgment then anyone else's today.. If they want religion separated from government, then who wins?" Seriously? Have you never read the constltution? Do you not know that under God was not added until 1954? It's comments like these that have me losing even more faith in public education, it's like these morons are not even trying anymore.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
      • Just the Facts Ma'am...

        To clarify my own comment, the constltution gives us the separation of church and state "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" and the "under God" was not added to the pledge until 1954. After reading my comment it sounded as if I meant under God was added to the constltution which of course I did not mean.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • Chester

      The founders put "freedom of religion" in the first amendment. The also put "Congress shall pass no laws establishing religion". They knew, correctly, that their MUST be a separation of church and state. Otherwise there could NOT be "freedom of religion". If the laws and policy of the government were based on religion, then they would be forcing religion on the people. The only way to have "freedom of religion" is to have separation of church and state!!!!

      September 10, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
    • Chester

      Atheism is not a religion. It is by definition: "the lack of religion".

      September 10, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
      • Richard Cranium

        I am an atheist and I lack nothing. That's like saying I lack cancer.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
        • Just the Facts Ma'am...

          lack: lack/lak/noun / noun: lack; plural noun: lacks 1. the state of being without or not having enough of something.

          I certainly do not lack any religion. I have had more than enough of their ignorance.

          September 10, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
    • ROO

      @Christ

      -A rejection of an unsupported assertion isn't a religion. The rejection of fairies don't create a religion. How would no god
      translate into a god? How can something nonexistent be defined when that require...existence? Let's think a little harder please. Put some effort into it.

      September 10, 2013 at 11:18 pm |
  4. elizabeth

    I don't understand the big deal... if you don't want to say it then don't say it. its called freedom of speech, you also have the freedom of not saying it. why aren't we focusing on some actual serious issues going on in this country....?

    September 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
    • Mom

      Agrred! If you have ther fredom NOT to say it, you should alos have the freedom to say it. Leave it there, and let people choose what thye want to say. How hard is that! And for a REAL atheist, the word God doesn't bother them, since it has no significance to them, they just don't care.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        LOL... dumbassness is running rampant today! hahaha...

        September 10, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
      • Joe

        Well, if it's not big deal, then why not do it the other way around – take it out and then you can say whatever you want to (we'll make sure the pause is long enough for you to insert the name of your god or a favorite bible passage). How hard is THAT? It's not a big deal, right?

        September 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
  5. Gordon Replogle

    Nobody has to live here. If you do not like the rules, whatever rule it is, attempt to get it changed. If unsuccessful, move to where the laws are favorable to your line of thinking.

    Just like a job, don't like it, attempt to change, cannot change, leave.

    Sheesh, so much fuss over such a minor issue.

    September 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
    • mkintexas

      oh no. That is not how it works. Attempt to change. When told no. Keep on trying instead of just simply dealing with it. the vast majority of Americans are not bothered by Under God. The majority of people also identify themselves as Christians. Why do you people get your panties in such a wad over two words you are not forced to say? It is not forcing anything. It does not say under Christian god or under budda the god or under allah the god. UNDER GOD is left up to you to decide. Get over it already.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
  6. Bob

    The word "god" wasn't in the original pledge. It was added during the anti-communist hysteria of the '50s.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
  7. Matt

    What a bunch of hypocrites. I swear, the talking heads on Fox need to actually take a second and really think about what they're going to say before they speak. That was two and half minutes of BS, hypocrisy, and ignorance. "They should just get over it and just not say it". "Why are they trying to force their beliefs on others?" YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT VERY IDEA! You're suggesting that the atheists should have to choke down what the Christian majority believe and want said, done, and heard. It is amazing that these 5 idiots cannot see that. I honestly think that the pledge of allegiance needs to be taken out of schools all together. Don't just remove the "under God", remove the whole thing. Its brainwashing. Stand up straight, hand on heart, face the flag, and repeat after me, children. It's kind of creepy. Every day like little drones, in unison, speaking to their red, white, and blue waving idol. And may God damn you if you refuse to partake of the ritual. People say you can opt out of it, but I've never seen it done. Teachers will report you to the office, and Schools will make examples out of you if you refuse to do what every one else is doing, because you're being "difficult". It's garbage, the whole thing.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • Spindrift

      damn straight....you hit the nail on the head... It doesn't' belong at all...imagine if it didn't' exist and it was proposed today? Sounds like the old CCCP a bit?! People don't even consider that BECAUSE they are so brainwashed and indoctrinated! Heh....

      September 10, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
    • ThatGuy

      *Clap* *Clap*

      September 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
  8. Jasmine

    Has anyone ever heard of separation of church and state?? To practice religion is up to the individual and not to be forced upon us ....

    September 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
  9. Nodack

    Why not one nation under Allah? That means god too.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:57 pm |
    • eric thompson

      Yes allah is god, Jesus Christ is God.There is only one true God and that's Jesus Christ .

      September 10, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
      •  

        Godless Vagabond
        How do you know he's the "true" god? Because some kindly gent in a long white robe told you?

        September 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
      • Jasmine

        To you there is only one god. When in reality people pray to different deities all around the world. That is the very ignorance that is destructive to our nation. We were founded on the basis that everyone has the right to live their life in the manner in which they feel is best for themselves personally. It is not up to you and who you pray to that determines how I live my life.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
  10. dagegen99

    Well, if she doesn't like Obamacare, she can leave.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:57 pm |
  11. What is going on? FREEDOM

    Some of these people on here don't seem to understand the term equality. Putting a law into affect stating you must say God in the pledge is not equality.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm |
    • tom

      And even if you provide the option of not saying "under God" it still does not represent equality. True equality is probably impossible to achieve but this is one area where it is possible and the answer is simple.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:56 pm |
      • What is going on? FREEDOM

        You don't need to have a law to say God in the pledge. Any Christian can state God in their pledge whenever they want. Initiating a law to do so just shows fear.

        September 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • MrCrabs

      No one HAS to stand with his hand over his heart and repeat the pledge of allegiance.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
    • Just the Facts Ma'am...

      Forcing your God on everyone = equality

      I think it's just that most Christians are terrible at this kind of math. for example they believe that:

      fossil record + DNA + geological record + no evidence of any God + Genesis account = proof of God.

      It's akin to saying 2+2+2+2 = poodle...

      September 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
    • MadTheSwine

      I would think Christians would want to remove God from money. The love of money is the root of all evil or some such. Having God mentioned on money seems like a bad money from that standpoint, especially considering how money owns our country and political process.

      And I would think Christians would want "Under God" removed from the pledge. Pledging allegiance to an object, a flag, seems like idol worship, or at least pledging loyalty to something other than God or Jesus or whatever.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
  12. Dyslexic doG

    show me one iota of proof that any god exists and I'll gladly leave the pledge of allegiance as is.

    as there is absolutely no proof of any god, why would we put that fairy tale in our pledge to our flag and country?

    one nation under the tooth fairy?

    one nation under santa?

    one nation under unicorns?

    good grief!!!

    September 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
    • MrCrabs

      Who cares?

      September 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
    • ThatGuy

      If you are atheist than your statement is ignorant. Yet, to reply to your statement. Why question the proof? Why not question the disproof?

      September 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
      • Honey Badger Don't Care

        You have to be the most ignorant person that I've read today. Please go back to school and learn something this time.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
      • ROO

        You can only prove existence. Non-existence leave no evidence. So in order to verify claim of existence from nonexistence...you need proof.

        September 10, 2013 at 11:24 pm |
    • Jasmine

      I would rather say One nation under unicorns ... but thanks for the laugh today!

      September 10, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
    • S. C. Jamason

      The heavens declare the glory of God. Open your eyes fool!

      September 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
      • Honey Badger Don't Care

        Since there is no evidence for a heaven your statement is moot. NEXT!

        September 10, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        "The heavens declare the glory of God" They do? How? When did the 'heavens' learn to speak? and why haven't they said an intelligent word in 2000 years?

        September 10, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
      • ROO

        The universe reveal no god in particular at all. No measurable demonstrable data for one.
        All we have are people claiming god exists. Yet people claimed many things to exist that leave
        no evidence.....fairies, leprechauns, mermaids, dragons, flying horses. However, none of these
        are apparent or self evident by actually observing the universe.

        September 10, 2013 at 11:28 pm |
  13. Aaron M.

    What these people need to understand is that there is a line between being an American, and practicing a certain faith, or belief. We pledge to the flag to reflect our commonality as all of us being American (E Pluribus Unum). It is really simple as that.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:51 pm |
    • closet atheist

      Don't you know...

      Atheism = Unamerican

      Atheism = Amoral

      September 10, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
  14. Lionly Lamb

    Threat Of Islam In The West

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76STxsWJCCE&feature=player_detailpage

    September 10, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
  15. Brian

    Dana Perino ...you should thank your God that Atheists live here. IF they didn't continue to voice their opinion then the next thing you know this country would be back to being governed by 1 religion and all others would be afraid to practice their beliefs. And that 1 religion may not be the one you practice today. So becareful about throwing people out of the U.S. that are different from you. How boring this country would become.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
  16. Kim

    I would think people would have more to worry about.

    So now we are going to waste a bunch of money defending our money?! Seriously?!

    We have become such a sue happy country it just makes me sick! Who cares? The ONLY people that should have this complaint, I guess, would be Atheists. "God" is a generic term to me.... it could be Allah or Zeus or the god of the living room couch.

    People need to start worrying about bigger things.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      show me one iota of proof that any god exists and I'll gladly leave the pledge of allegiance as is.

      as there is absolutely no proof of any god, why would we put that fairy tale in our pledge to our flag and country?

      one nation under the tooth fairy?

      one nation under santa?

      one nation under unicorns?

      good grief!!!

      September 10, 2013 at 3:51 pm |
      • MrCrabs

        We've tried to explain the universe and our own existence. So far, we can't disprove an undetected force. Nor can we prove statistically that an incalculable number of random events could possibly occur to explain us. If you had enough chimpanzees at keyboards they'd type the complete set of Shakespeare's plays.

        September 10, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
        • Cpt. Obvious

          Interesting rambling without a detectable point. Did you have one?

          September 10, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • doobzz

      So changing it to "goddess" would be fine? That's a generic term as well.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
    • closet atheist

      If this is about the money....

      ...then why aren't we taxing organized religions in this country? They are perpetuating their huge empires on the backs of US taxpayers.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
      • Johnny

        Or they could just let the Atheists win and take the phrase out own their own. That would save some money.

        September 10, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
  17. Nino

    "If God didn't exist we need to invent one" and we did. we over-did it, we have hundreds of them. The result are wars, earth overcrowding, famine, delusions, mind control by greedy clowns. Thank you God!

    September 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
  18. Chester

    If the "Under God" part was always in the pledge I might say let's keep it in there, just for historical reasons. But, since the phrase was added 60+ years later, because of the red-scare politics of the early 50's, I say let's put it back to the original wording, without the "Under God" phrase. Same with the "In God we Trust" on paper money. That was added in the 50's for the same reason.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      seems the logical choice doesn't it?

      logic and religion are polar opposites ... and so you have the problem ...

      September 10, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
    • Snow

      Exactly.. if it could be added, it could be removed. Since the red scare is no longer around, let it be removed. If people want to say it, let them say it.

      How about actually implementing that equality thing people love to keep sprouting out all the time.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
    • tom

      And both those examples represent the government taking the side of religion over non-belief. Seems like a pretty clear violation of the first amendment. The fact that the Supreme Court doesn't see it that way just goes to show how gutless and political they are.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
      • Chester

        Yep, the first amendment clearly says: "Congress shall pass no law establishing religion". Yet they pass a law adding "Under God" to the pledge. That's a clear violation of the 1st amendment! Not sure how that isn't overturned by the supreme court!!!!!!

        September 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
        • Bill Deacon

          The SCOTUS has to have a case. Maybe this case will get that far and then we'll hear what the nine have to say

          September 10, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • sam

      You'd think christians would be happy to stop a practice that only uses their god as a boogeyman to scare away commies.

      September 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
  19. Kat

    Ah, if only I had all day to sit and bicker like some people here. I think the main point that no one gets is that we need to be tolerant. There's something to be learned from others' mistakes, like Perino. You can't really judge someone like her for saying what she did and in the same breath call Christians, Muslims, etc. trash or lunatics. You're doing exactly what she did. If you want to properly represent a group of people and actually say what you are, you may want to reconsider your wording. You don't have to ever accept what anyone tells you BUT you do need to be tolerant of other groups. You can't tell someone to stop judging you if you turn right around and do the same to them. It's called being a hypocrite and no one wants that.

    I hope you all don't take anything here to heart and this causes you to think twice before writing something that may hurt someone else. People just write whatever they want on here because they're not actually in front of the person they're replying to. If this were in person, most people wouldn't say what they have.

    September 10, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
    • tom

      So you have to be tolerant of intolerance?

      September 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Aren't you sweet... It must make the other hippies' teeth hurt when they make out with you...

      September 10, 2013 at 3:57 pm |
    • Just the Facts Ma'am...

      "People just write whatever they want on here because they're not actually in front of the person they're replying to. If this were in person, most people wouldn't say what they have."

      It's true. I would not speak my mind face to face with many of the others here, but that is only because I would fear a violent reprisal from small minded ignoramuses. Is that why we should limit our speech here? Because we should fear being shot or attacked for holding a certain view? This has been how things have worked for thousands of years with only a few exceptions of authors being able to cleverly speak truth to power by hiding the truth in art much like Shakespeare did with his plays. Now we have the anonymity of the internet and all are able to speak truths to those to ignorant to pick up a book and buck the status quo. Thank you internet, you I can believe in and know you exist.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:57 pm |
  20. KATHY

    IF YOU DONT LIKE TO THEN FEEL FREE TO NOT SAY THAT PART OF THE PLEDGE.... BUT WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO COMPLETELY GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR DECADES JUST BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME FEEL LIKE GETTING ATTENTION.... OUR FORE FATHERS CREATED THIS COUNTRY AND ITS RULES AND TRADITIONS MANY YEARS AGO ... IF YOU DONT LIKE IT TOUGH LUCK..... HOW ABOUT WE ACTUALLY TRY TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THIS COUNTRY !!!!!

    September 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      so let's make it the original version as it was for hundreds of years before we changed it in the 60's. Surely better to have it the way it was originally?

      September 10, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
    • Odo

      Yo – our Founding Fathers did not put the "under God " phrase into the pledge...how about setting it back to its' original version....the one before the religious nutters put this in which alienated the rest of us....

      September 10, 2013 at 3:45 pm |
      • tom

        The founding fathers did not write the pledge of allegiance. It was authored in the 1890s and officially recognized by Congress in 1942. We did just fine without a pledge of allegiance for most of this country's history. Are we really better Americans because we now have a pledge?

        September 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • CW

      You need a history lesson, as well as a lesson on how to use the CAPS key. Seriously.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:47 pm |
    • What is going on? FREEDOM

      Get rid of the LAW. It only shows support of one religion above all others. It is illegal.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
    •  

      Godless Vagabond
      How about you turn off your goddam caps lock, KATHY.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
    • Just the Facts Ma'am...

      btw, shouting does not add any credence to your message. It does the exact opposite in fact.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
    • Bo

      I get the feeling that, based on your post, that if someone like you were standing next to me, I would not be able to hear myself not say the part that I didn't want to say.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:51 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Old people who don't know what they're doing on the internet are funny... HOW DOES THIS THING WORK? AM I DOING IT RIGHT?

      September 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
    • Gerald S.

      Kathy,

      First off, welcome to the internet. You're older, I can tell...or completely new to technology. Why do i know that, you ask? YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY THINK ITS EASIER THAT WAY. It's not. People immediately judge you are stupid. So as a friendly piece of advice, turn off caps lock and type as though you were writing a letter to your boss.

      That being said, we added "under God" about 60 years ago during the Cold War. Back when our founders "FOUNDED THIS COUNTRY", it wasn't in there. Which brings me back to the judgement that you're possibly stupid and/or uneducated. Sometimes you just get dealt the short stack of cards.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm |
      • Bible Clown©

        "People immediately judge you are stupid." Sorry, the all-caps weren't needed in this case.

        September 11, 2013 at 10:21 am |
    • Ozzie

      Why are you shouting?

      September 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm |
    • doobzz

      "BUT WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO COMPLETELY GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR DECADES JUST BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME FEEL LIKE GETTING ATTENTION.... OUR FORE FATHERS CREATED THIS COUNTRY AND ITS RULES AND TRADITIONS MANY YEARS AGO"

      People, including some of the Founding Fathers, owned slaves. Just because something is a tradition or has been accepted in the past doesn't make it right.

      Also, shut off the caps, please.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
    • Chester

      Kathy, no need for all caps! How rude! Also, this has nothing to do with our "fore fathers" who "created our country". The pledge was changed in 1954 because of red-scare politics of that time. If they could go "out of the way" to change the pledge to promote the agenda of the early 50's, there's nothing wrong with us changing it back. Changing it back would be a lot more reflective of the rules and traditions of our fore fathers (even though the pledge was written in the 1890's, more than a 100 years after our fore fathers). But still, the original writing is the true historic version and the representative one for a civil pledge of allegiance.

      September 10, 2013 at 3:56 pm |
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