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September 17th, 2013
09:59 PM ET

Rick Warren on guns, God and son's tragic death

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Lake Forest, California (CNN) — In his first interview since his son's suicide in April, famed pastor Rick Warren told CNN that he knew his son, Matthew, had bought a gun, dismissed rumors that Matthew was gay and said he doesn't blame God for the tragedy.

"I have cried every single day since Matthew died," Warren said Tuesday in an exclusive interview with CNN.

"But that - that's actually a good thing. Grief is a good thing. It's the way we get through the transitions of life."

Rick Warren and his wife, Kay, founded Saddleback Church in Southern California in 1980, growing it from a small congregation to a multisite megachurch with some 20,000 weekly worshippers.

Warren is also author of the spiritual self-help guide “The Purpose Driven Life,” one of the best-selling books of all time, with more 36 million copies sold.

But even as the Warrens grew in prominence - attending conferences with presidents and prime ministers - their son Matthew struggled with borderline personality disorder and deep depression, they said during an interview with CNN’s Piers Morgan.

The Warrens said they are opening up about their son’s tragic death because they hope to end the stigma of mental illness and save another family from the pain they suffer.

They have slowly returned to the spotlight since grieving in private for five months.

MORE ON CNN: The five things you need to know about Rick Warren

The gun

Matthew Warren visited his parents on the night of April 5, just like so many nights before.

“I had made him dinner,” Kay Warren told CNN. “He laid his head down on the kitchen table and he just said ‘I'm so tired.’ He just said ‘I'm so tired.’”

After a hug from his dad, Matthew left his parents' house and went back to his own. He and his mom began texting, and the conversation veered toward suicide, Kay Warren said.

“I knew it was very desperate. And I also knew he – I knew he had a gun.”

Earlier, Matthew had told his parents he had illegally obtained a gun online - but if they called the police about the gun he would kill himself instantly.

Matthew Warren had tried to legally purchase a gun many times, his family said. Each time he was rebuffed because he had been forcibly admitted to a mental institution, a red flag on a California background check.

“We're grateful that the laws kept Matthew from getting the gun for as long as it did,” Rick Warren said.

When Matthew hit a roadblock buying a gun, he turned to other options.

"He was so desperate to end the pain,” Kay Warren said.

Ten days earlier, Matthew had tried to end his life by overdosing on pills, the Warrens said, one of several suicide attempts in his young life.

Matthew had begged his mother to help him die, Kay Warren said.

“I will do anything to help you live,” she recalls telling him, “but I will not help you take your life.”

The texting between Matthew and Kay Warren went on for hours on the night of April 5.

Then it stopped.

The Warrens headed to Matthew’s house. He did not come to the door. The lights were on, and they decided to leave, worried if they called the police Matthew would make good on his fatal promise.

The next morning they went back to his house. The lights were still on.

This time they called the police.

Rick and Kay Warren stood outside their son’s home sobbing in each others’ arms.

They knew.

A nod from a police officer who inspected Matthew's house confirmed the worst.

“I just hit the ground," Kay Warren said.

God's plan

Matthew had access to mental health care and all the love in the world but not even that could spare him, Rick Warren said.

“If love could have kept my child alive, he'd be alive today, because he was incredibly loved,” the pastor said.

The evangelical Christian said he doesn’t blame God for his son’s death.

“I never questioned my faith in God; I questioned God’s plan,” Rick Warren said. “God isn’t the blame for my son’s death. My son took his life. It was his choice.”

Kay Warren said the family’s faith and community support got them through the past five months. Condolence cards poured in from around the world; 30,000 by Saddleback Church’s count.

In their grief, Rick and Kay Warren said they turned to a familiar source, the Bible.

For Kay Warren, a verse from the New Testament brings comfort, she said. “It says our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory.”

She recites the verse when visiting her son’s grave.

"Matthew's body was broken. That gun broke his body and he was buried in brokenness. But he's going to be raised in glory.”

GALLERY: Rick Warren over the years

Forgiveness

The Warrens said they struggle with anger that their son died using an illegally obtained firearm.

Before his death, Matthew told his parents he bought the gun online, but wouldn’t tell them from whom.

Investigators said the serial number was filed off when they recovered it from the scene. So far police have not been able to determine who sold Matthew Warren the gun.

“One of the hard things was forgiving the person who sold him the gun,” Rick Warren said. “Because I didn't want to forgive him.”

But the Warrens said their Christian faith, rooted in the belief that their own sins had been forgiven by Jesus, enabled them to forgive the person who sold the gun to their son.

“I don't want to be tied to that person emotionally for the rest of my life,” Kay Warren said.

Slightly more than half of Americans - 53% - think churches should do more to prevent suicide in America, according to a new poll by LifeWay Research, a Christian company based in Nashville.

Nearly half of evangelicals (48%) say people with serious mental illnesses like depression, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia can be cured by Bible study and prayer alone. Sixty percent of Americans overall disagree.

The Warrens said Matthew had access to good health care, but the system sometimes puts obstacles between families and their mentally ill loved ones.

Kay Warren pointed to difficulty families have in getting mentally ill family members help because of laws on patient privacy.

“The right to privacy and that right to autonomy, it's a dance,” she said.
 “I don't have good answers. It's a dance. So we've got to do a better job with that.”

Because the Warrens are conservative Christians who oppose same-sex marriage, rumors circulated about Matthew's sexuality in the days after his death.

The Warrens dismissed those rumors in the CNN interview.

“Well, first, Matthew wasn't gay, " Rick Warren said, "but if he was, we would have loved him unconditionally anyway. It wouldn't have made one difference at all.”

The Warrens said they have tried to stay away from online criticism and the rumors surrounding Matthew’s death so they can focus on his legacy: raising awareness about mental illness.

Hope

Asked why they had not prioritized mental illness earlier, the Warrens said that they did not want to thrust their troubled son into the limelight.

“It was his story to tell,” Rick Warren said.

Now telling Matthew’s story falls to his parents.

They want the world to remember a young man who was “funny, quirky, ridiculously silly.”

On his headstone the family put “compassionate warrior.”

They have established the Matthew Warren Fund to honor his memory. Rick Warren said they will wait a year and then hope to use the funds to help those struggling with mental illness and their families.

The Warrens want to spread the word that even though their story had a tragic ending, “There’s hope,” Kay Warren said. “It’s so important that people know, no matter how desperate their despair, there is hope, and not to give up.”

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Death • Faith • Guns • Leaders • Violence

soundoff (1,411 Responses)
  1. karenascofield

    When a mentally ill person is seriously struggling and tells you he has an illegal gun but will kill himself instantly if you tell anyone, you go to the police and tell them exactly that, then let them handle it. You can explain the difference between breaking trust and protecting life as a sacred act later. The police don't have a perfect record but they're probably your best bet in the situation. If they're successful, at least your loved one is alive.

    Perhaps with an incident like that on their record, they might be more likely to get the help they need. If they don't, there's something wrong with out system - the most people in jail per capita in the world but not enough truly needed intervention and treatment.

    September 17, 2013 at 11:12 pm |
    • manju

      Intervention is impossible in a society where adulthood arrives the morning of the day a child turns 18 and from that moment the that child's own parents become distant to him/her overnight. He becomes his own private person and even when the parents know that their child needs help, they are helpless to do anything because they cannot force him to go to a psychologist or psychiatrist for treatment. Everyone knows that a mentally sick, especially, a young adult doesn't think that there is anything wrong with them and they need help. Only the loving family members know it but they cannot do anything. There is no system that a mentally sick adult person can be forced to seek help if friends and family members believe that that person needs help.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:44 pm |
      • karenascofield

        The situation of reporting the gun and mental health issues could quite possibly force the system to recognize that the person is a danger to themselves, thus satisfying the requirements for involuntary commitment.

        September 18, 2013 at 12:01 am |
  2. Gloria

    Some of the comments regarding the Warren's loss of their son are appalling to me! Did anyone of you watch Piers Morgan's interview of Pastor Warren and his wife tonight on CNN? My heart goes out to them in their loss. Sadly, there is a nastiness and lack of sensitivity in our country that will do more to weaken us as a nation than any terrorist could possibly do. Fortunately, I know that there are still enough people around who are kind and loving, so there is hope. Shame on anyone who cannot just sympathize with anyone who is grieving a loss without being nasty and judgmental.

    September 17, 2013 at 11:12 pm |
    • Jack

      Gloria, sadly for the atheists such a loss isn't a tragic human event, but ammunition for there monomaniacal desire to attack religious belief. One should never expect sympathy or civility from such folk, the reactions are neither shocking nor suprising.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:16 pm |
      • Relictus

        You break a commandment before God and man: Not to bear false witness against your neighbor. I am an atheist – and stories about suicide affect me deeply. I have considered the option of suicide, myself. The Warrens have my deep sympathy, as does their son. Depression is a terrible and common mental illness that drains the very joy out of Life.

        September 17, 2013 at 11:30 pm |
        • Jack

          Then perhaps you could direct you ire at your atheist brethren who are mocking a grieving father?

          September 17, 2013 at 11:34 pm |
    • gigi

      amen!

      September 17, 2013 at 11:18 pm |
  3. FactCheck

    I do feel sorry for Matthew, who had the misfortune to be born into Elmer Gantry's family. I am also sorry for the pain that the preacher and his wife are going through. The loss of their son is one of the few real experiences that they will not be able to escape, even with their well practiced skills in reality avoidance. May Zeus smile upon them as they seek, and sell, the peace that passeth all understanding.

    September 17, 2013 at 11:10 pm |
  4. Jo

    The Porpose Driven Life is not just One Way or Christian or religious.

    September 17, 2013 at 11:07 pm |
    • Pablo

      Dolphin?

      September 17, 2013 at 11:24 pm |
  5. Apple Bush

    The grave digs a while, deep enough for you and your flat screen and a few other gadgets. The worshippers believe if you are buried with your valuables you will get to set up a “cloud” in heaven and you can access your music from any of your wireless devices.

    The grave leans on his shovel and thinks for a moment.

    Being older and more knowledgeable, the dirt guru decided to just fill in the hole and quit for the day. The sun burned bright and the pebbles in the grave’s dirt sparkled.

    He found some shade and quietly hoped no one would try to bury themselves.

    September 17, 2013 at 11:06 pm |
  6. Mark

    I am no fan of him or televangelists – but sheesh people, his son is dead, cut him some slack.

    September 17, 2013 at 11:04 pm |
    • militarymom777

      So sad to lose a love one. I feel for anyone who has to go through this.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:09 pm |
  7. Jack

    There is no indication his son was gay. Where do you people get this nonsense?

    September 17, 2013 at 11:00 pm |
  8. hello

    this fools son knew he had to die.. or his father would lose his church... he was not afraid to die.. but he was afraid to live as a son of a anti gay preacher.

    September 17, 2013 at 11:00 pm |
  9. hello

    His father made his huge wealth selling the Christian myth.. which the family depended on. His father was a stanch anti gay preacher.. leaving his gay son no place to hide. Being gay is not a mental illness.
    Coming out would have destroyed his families business.. shamed them for ever and got him shunned for life.
    Poor kid had no option but to go away... it is clearly his fathers fault ..because he refused to accept his son as he was..
    Kid knew it.. and was left with no other solution... sometimes when you stand on a stack of bibles and claim that it is the word of a god.. you forget that.. that gods are nothing but a literary creation to control people. and for myth salesmen to get rich off of.
    go to Caesar's Messiah web site to learn more on the bible who wrote it and why.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:57 pm |
    • JP

      I agree with Hello. The antigay father is to blame!! Such TRASH!!!. Eveil evil man....and a skillful liar....borderline personality disorder and deep depression....BS--he was gay – his father preached that god hates gays...his son blew his brains out.....

      How else can you interpret this story? RELIGION KILLS!!!

      PERIOD.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:29 pm |
      • Jack

        There is no indication his son was gay.

        September 18, 2013 at 12:06 am |
      • brendank11

        You both sound like you know the situation quite intimately, seemingly know everything about their lives. Clearly why you would make such bold and staunch accusations. It's quite sad.

        September 18, 2013 at 1:30 am |
    • JP

      However I NEVER EVER EVER EVER pay for the TRUTH...

      EVER...PERIOD.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:33 pm |
    • Which is more far fetched? The big bang or Divine Creator?

      Check your facts on the wealth statement. Warren accepts no salary from his church and does not take money from book sales.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:34 pm |
  10. carla

    What I would like to see happen is that churches move more towards the middle with mental health and mental health professionals be more supportive of a person's faith. The two don't have the think the other is evil. I see it often.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:54 pm |
    • Once in a Blue Moon

      agreed.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:12 pm |
  11. tookey

    Religion caters to people willing to believe anything so they can feel comforted, and feel good that they will go to some place called heaven and have a good time for eternity without any pain. It doesn't appeal to people who really want to inquire the concept of god, and what it could be. Religion is more about one's own selfish happiness than any real quest for god.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:48 pm |
    • Once in a Blue Moon

      Disagree.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:13 pm |
  12. Dan

    Only a nitwit would believe in an invisible magician in the sky.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm |
    • James

      Well said Dan.

      September 17, 2013 at 10:55 pm |
    • Once in a Blue Moon

      Wrong.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:14 pm |
      • Athy

        Right.

        September 18, 2013 at 12:02 am |
    • hello again

      And if there is no God you have a bigger problem. Your life is meaningless, without purpose, and worthless. And you believe something came from nothing... yes you are a man of faith...

      September 17, 2013 at 11:14 pm |
      • Kay

        Nah. Life isn't meaningless for people who don't believe in a god. That's simply what *you* believe. And *you* aren't God.

        September 18, 2013 at 12:25 am |
    • kotchi

      Oh please..a magician in the sky??? God is a genious after all. Ask Ricky Gervais. God created the heavens and the Earth according to Genesis and then after that he said let there be light. Who else but a being like that could create everything in the dark?

      September 17, 2013 at 11:15 pm |
      • crucified

        You obviously do not know Hebrew are you would understand that passage.

        September 17, 2013 at 11:26 pm |
        • Dippy

          Or, not are.

          September 18, 2013 at 12:04 am |
    • kotchi

      My first attempt was sent to someone else...no matter..

      Oh please..a magician in the sky??? God is a genious after all. Ask Ricky Gervais. God created the heavens and the Earth according to Genesis and then after that he said let there be light. Who else but a being like that could create everything in the dark?

      September 17, 2013 at 11:18 pm |
    • hagen

      So, Newton, Faraday, Max Planck, Francis Collins, B Kobilka, William D Phillips are nitwits ? ok, who are you again ?

      September 17, 2013 at 11:23 pm |
    • LinSea

      I don't believe in invisible magicians. I believe in God. You seem to be confusing God with something you read in a Harry Potter book.

      September 18, 2013 at 2:19 am |
  13. Texas

    You have my deepest sympathy. It is a shame that young gay people sometimes feel that they are so isolated that there is no alternative. It DOES get better. Sometimes not when we want the immediate change but it will get better. If you are a young gay person out there and feel there is no hope, seek help. There are hundreds of thousands of gay people (young and old) out there willing to help. Family is not only determined by a blood, but by the heart.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:37 pm |
    • Once in a Blue Moon

      Excellent post. Thanks

      September 17, 2013 at 11:14 pm |
    • Jack

      There is no indication he was gay.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:18 pm |
    • matt james

      Can someone please post an article or link that shows his son was gay? Other than that it's just hearsay ...

      September 18, 2013 at 10:36 am |
  14. LWJR

    would be interested to know if he the son had a drug problem and whether that led to his mental illness?

    September 17, 2013 at 10:34 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      ...and it would be none of your business.

      September 17, 2013 at 10:37 pm |
    • carla

      I work in the mental health profession. More often tan not, if drugs are an issue, it's born out of mental illness because the person wants something to stop the pain. They will go to great lengths.

      September 17, 2013 at 10:50 pm |
    • Kay

      Don't you actually mean "If he had a mental illness and tried to self-medicate with drugs"???

      Illegal drug use doesn't *cause* SPMIs like schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder or clinical depression.

      Might I suggest you bring your knowledge of mental illness up to the 21st century? (Hint: It's called "mental ILLNESS" for a reason. And ignorance on the part of others doesn't help people achieve recovery.)

      September 17, 2013 at 11:17 pm |
      • carla

        Point well taken. I would like to say that I figured " illegal drugs" was inferred.

        September 18, 2013 at 1:13 pm |
  15. Apple Bush

    God is responsible for all human pain and suffering ever. It is not possible that He is not. He is God.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:32 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      It then follows that he is responsible for every death ever.

      He is responsible for cancer, all illness, dying children, atrocities, wars, weapons, etc.

      September 17, 2013 at 10:52 pm |
      • LinSea

        So the people who smoke themselves to death with cancer and emphysema aren't responsible for their own actions? The people who drink and drive and kill themselves and others aren't to blame for what they chose to do? The people who eat themselves into type II diabetes have no fault in what they go through? The person who murders someone else isn't responsible for that person's death? The leaders who greedily desire power and wealth and provoke wars to get what they want aren't responsible for what they do?

        September 18, 2013 at 1:51 am |
        • Richard Cranium

          Yes, god is responsible for people to have these things to choose from, or god is all knowing. A god cannot "know" to the end of time and we have free will. it is impossible for it to be otherwise.

          So which is it, at least your definition of god anyway? Since all men define god anyway, and men created god in the first place, sure, why not, god is responsible for everything, or there really is no god and we answer to one another.

          September 18, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • kotchi

      What is God's address. I think I need a visitation with him or her. God loves us all. What a joke.Looks like he only loves the rich and famous.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:11 pm |
      • LinSea

        No address, no phone, no email, no twitter account needed to talk to God. All you have to do is talk and then be open minded enough to listen.

        September 18, 2013 at 1:53 am |
        • Richard Cranium

          or be closed minded enough to think god had anything to do with it. Something goes well in your life, you thank god....Why? There is no indication that any god had anything to do with it, so attributing anything to god without confirmation is illogical. How do you know it is god? (note...attempting to answer that question shows you are fooling yourself. There is nothing that you can do to show existance of any gods.

          How foolish you will feel when you stand before Odin, and you have worshipped the wrong god...he doesn't like that you know.

          September 18, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
    • Once in a Blue Moon

      "...responsible for ..." As in causes? Or permits but did not cause? Or both? Then who is responsible for alleviating pain? Is that God? Your brief response, while interesting, does not seem to allow for free will on the part of humans.

      Hmm.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:19 pm |
    • Jack

      God is responsible for giving men free will – what they do with that gift is their responsibility.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:50 pm |
      • Kay

        And if there were no God, we would *still* have free will. Well...just as much as we do now.

        September 18, 2013 at 12:40 am |
      • Richard Cranium

        Men are responsible for giving god all of his attributes including the ability for god to give us free will.

        September 18, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
  16. pauleky

    After all the damage this man has done to many people all over the world, I still can feel nothing but sympathy for him. I would hope it would open his eyes to what could lead to suicide (his words being among them), but based on the interview I won't be getting my hopes up.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:28 pm |
  17. UriNation

    Elimination of the weak; it's a natural process.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:27 pm |
    • Aaron

      What a callous thing to say. You have a weak heart. No compassion.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:13 pm |
  18. Marsha Malone

    The answer here is that religion is a false, hollow belief system based on magic and an extreme ignorance of reality. You may accept that but intelligent people don't. Intelligent people are more comfortable with saying I don't know than blindly accepting a false and phony belief – based on magic and human stories written at a time when men idn't understand the basic physics of the solar system.

    September 17, 2013 at 10:26 pm |
    • Debbie

      You, my dear, are extremely stupid!

      September 17, 2013 at 10:34 pm |
      • JGreen

        Where was God when the troubled young man pulled the trigger? If God could solve anything, we'd be living in Utopia and Republicans would get along with Democrats.

        September 17, 2013 at 10:55 pm |
        • Gavin Ford

          Marcia: you absolutely nailed it.

          September 17, 2013 at 10:58 pm |
        • Pablo

          Gavin,

          You, my dear, are an idiot! How do I know? You cannot even spell Marsha correctly ("Marcia"). It has been proven that people who cannot spell have low IQs.

          September 17, 2013 at 11:17 pm |
      • Kay

        And, based on your response to her, you are condescendingly hateful. Is that the kind of god you truly think the rest of us should believe in???

        September 17, 2013 at 11:37 pm |
    • Copenhagun

      You are a Genius! :p The poster that said you are extremely stupid, is an uneducated moron.

      September 17, 2013 at 10:42 pm |
    • gigi

      God is real...He's always there for us...WE choose to turn our backs on Him, so this world can eat us up. It's like having a tooth ache but not going to your dentist for help....you get worse and worse. I am not stupid. You have to have alot of faith to believe this all started with a big bang.....I have faith too....in a CREATOR.....

      September 17, 2013 at 11:15 pm |
      • Pablo

        Gigi: you absolutely nailed it !

        September 17, 2013 at 11:19 pm |
      • Kay

        If your faith brings you comfort, that's great. For you. I mean that seriously. But it's called "faith" for a reason. No proof...no evidence needed. So no need to look for proof, for evidence.

        But please don't assume that's how science works, too. Just because we don't know the "how" of everything at this time doesn't mean it's automatically and forever unknowable.

        September 18, 2013 at 12:01 am |
        • LinSea

          "Just because we don't know the 'how' of everything at this time doesn't mean it's automatically and forever unknowable." Your words.

          But Kay, exactly the same reasoning applies to God. We don't exactly know the "how" behind every aspect of the creation of the world or how water molecules could be rearranged into wine or perhaps how the surface tension of water could become strong enough to allow Jesus to walk on it, but that doesn't mean those things can never be known. Have you considered the possibility that God is a being with such tremendous knowledge and comprehension of the physical laws of the universe that He knows how to use those laws to cause things to happen which we can't understand with our limited knowledge?

          September 18, 2013 at 2:27 am |
    • Once in a Blue Moon

      Uh-uh. While I acknowledge how tempting it is to come to the conclusions you've come to so far, as in keep it simple, a relationship with an omniscient, all powerful being to those who may have moments of those qualities but not a nature consistently so, isn't simple to understand. And for lack of understanding why not reject it in a "look down on it" with contempt such as you now have.

      Cheers

      September 17, 2013 at 11:23 pm |
    • Jack

      Yes, we have seen all the 'intelligent' people here attacking a grieving father and exploiting a tragedy to advance their own agendas. In another age that was called depraved.

      September 17, 2013 at 11:53 pm |
    • LinSea

      Sorry, Marsha, but your analysis is full of flaws and full of prejudice and stereotypes. Is that reflective of the kind of person you are?

      September 18, 2013 at 1:57 am |
  19. Josh

    Great interview!

    September 17, 2013 at 10:03 pm |
    • Compassionate Cosette

      Pastor's pain was raw and that is what will draw most people to hope in Almighty God.

      September 17, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
      • Compassionate Cosette

        Pastor's pain was raw and his faith in God was strong and that is what will probably draw most people to hope in Almighty God.

        September 17, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
      • Apple Bush

        He should be preaching about how God turned His back on him and killed his son.

        September 17, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
        • Josh

          All mortals will eventually face death one day, because of the disobedience of man in the garden of Eden. You can hope that one day you will be reunited with your loved one in heaven when you trust God.

          Have faith & have hope!

          September 17, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
        • Debbie

          Don't spew your stupidity in the midst of someone's pain.

          September 17, 2013 at 10:29 pm |
        • contrapunctal1@live.com

          I have read some stupid insensitive statements before, but yours is the dumbest yet.

          September 17, 2013 at 10:34 pm |
        • Apple Bush

          I am honest. You refer to it as stupidity.

          September 17, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
        • Once in a Blue Moon

          I don't think so.

          September 17, 2013 at 11:24 pm |
        • LinSea

          It is possible to be honest without being cruel.

          September 18, 2013 at 2:33 am |
      • John

        I have nothing but deepest sympathies for Mr. Warren. But no, this does not draw me to some almighty God.

        September 17, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
      • Relictus

        Pain can push others away from God. I feel a lot of emotional pain, and it is not endearing me to God. Far from it. Hope is something that I cannot afford because it makes my pain more acute.

        September 17, 2013 at 11:41 pm |
        • OC

          2 Corinthians 12:9

          September 18, 2013 at 9:56 am |
      • Kay

        Raw pain doesn't draw *me* to anything...except to a hospital.

        September 18, 2013 at 12:46 am |
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