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Ex-pope breaks silence, denies cover up
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, left, greets Pope Francis during a March meeting at the Vatican gardens.
September 24th, 2013
02:05 PM ET

Ex-pope breaks silence, denies cover up

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-editor

(CNN) - Retired Pope Benedict XVI says he never tried to cover up the sexual abuse of minors by Catholic priests, breaking his post-retirement silence to address one of the greatest threats to his legacy as a church leader.

In a lengthy letter published in La Repubblica, an Italian newspaper, the former pope answered theological and moral arguments from Piergiorgio Odifreddi, an Italian atheist and mathematician who had written about Benedict in 2011.

Earlier this month, La Repubblica also published a letter to its atheist editor from Pope Francis, Benedict's successor.

Since his retirement on February 28, Benedict has mostly stayed out of the public eye, living in a converted monastery behind St. Peter's Basilica and keeping his promise to steer clear - at least publicly - of church business.

Benedict's new letter, coming on the heels of Francis' blockbuster interview published last week, makes for a remarkable week for papal communication. Most modern popes have been fairly inaccessible - to the media, at least.

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In Benedict's letter, published Tuesday, the former pope said: "As far as you mentioning the moral abuse of minors by priests, I can only, as you know, acknowledge it with profound consternation. But I never tried to cover up these things."

Benedict, who now has the title "pope emeritus," also said that even though sociologists have determined that the percentage of priests accused of abusing minors is not markedly higher than other professions, that's "not reassuring" for the church.

Critics answer that it's the not just the crimes but the coverups that made the church's response to sexual abuse so scandalous.

"Over a clerical career that lasted more than six decades, we can’t think of a single child-molesting bishop, priest, nun, brother or seminarian that Benedict ever exposed," said Barbara Dorris of the U.S.-based Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.

Before he was elected pope, Benedict, formerly known as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, headed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which assumed responsibility for handling priest abuse cases late in his career.

As pope, he issued revised guidelines in 2010 making it easier to remove abusive priests from the ministry, apologized for the "shame" the scandal brought on the church and met with victims, including in the United States in 2008.

Critics like SNAP dismissed those moves as too little, too late.

In the United States alone, nearly 17,000 people have come forward with abuse claims, and the church has paid $2.6 billion in settlements, therapy bills, lawyers' fees and expenses related to removing priests from the ministry, according to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

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In Tuesday's letter, and on past occasions, Benedict has decried the "filth" of sexual abuse in the church. But, the emeritus pope said, it is not "specific to Catholicism." He also chided Odifreddi for neglecting the good the church has done.

"If you do not remain silent about evil in the Church, we must not, however, be silenced even by the great shining path of goodness and purity, which Christian faith has traced through the centuries," Benedict said.

Pope Francis said in April, in one of his first statements as pope, that the church must take "decisive action" regarding cases of child sexual abuse and protecting children.

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Crime • Media • Pope Benedict XVI • Pope Francis • Rape • Sex abuse • Vatican

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  1. Lionly Lamb

    Legalizing Pot: The Illuminati's Worst Nightmare

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    September 25, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
  2. Live4Him

    Evolutionist view of evolution:

    Ms. Garrison: Okay children, it is now my job to teach you the theory of evolution.

    [students]: Oh, boy!

    Ms. Garrison: Now, I for one think that evolution is a the only possible answer to how this world came to be. It was thought up by the Ancient Greeks, discarded and then refined by Charles Darwin 2,200 years later and is now accepted by all scientists. Because evolution happens over millions of years, no one has ever been able to observe this evolution, but we know it happens because of the life diversity we see today. Any questions?

    Joe: But, I don't understand. Can you explain how life first began?

    Ms. Garrison: We don't know that, but we know it did happen because we're alive today.

    Mary: How could we test they with the scientific method?

    Ms. Garrison: Because evolution happens over millions of years, We can't test it scientifically. All we can do is look at today's evidence and realize that it did happen.

    Bob: What were the first few species that evolved?

    Ms. Garrison: We don't know that since it occurred so far in the past.

    Sue: What species did man evolve from?

    Ms. Garrison: We don't know that, but scientists are currently looking at this.

    Jim: How many species evolved over the history of our planet?

    [students]: We don't KNOW!

    Ms. Garrison: Congratulations. You understand evolution correctly now!

    September 25, 2013 at 3:28 pm |
    • Doris

      lol. hmm. getting some popcorn for monitor mode...

      September 25, 2013 at 3:36 pm |
      • Doris

        I am sorry – what I meant was:

        lol. (eyeroll) hmm. getting some popcorn for monitor mode...

        September 25, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • Sea Otter (Leader of Allied Atheist Alliance)

      Whereas my post was funny... yours just proves that Creationists are dumbshits... was that your intent?

      September 25, 2013 at 3:37 pm |
      • Live4Him

        Ahhh. Your post demonstrates the intellectual discourse capability on this forum.

        When you poke fun at your opponents, it is funny. When they poke fun at you, you blow your top. FAIL!

        September 25, 2013 at 3:45 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          Your definition of "blowing my top" must be different than mine... I think Christians and their silly beliefs and lame retorts are humorous...

          September 25, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
        • sam stone

          you sure are a fine one to speak of intellectual discourse, lie4him

          September 26, 2013 at 4:34 am |
    • Circle

      You attempt at humor falls short of it's mark.
      Keep your day job of asking "Would you like that Supersized?" to match your enormous ego.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
      • Dippy

        Its, not it's.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:45 pm |
      • Circle

        name stealer! use your alias not mine.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
    • Craig

      Geez! evolutionists know nothing!!!

      September 25, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
      • Live4Him

        This was demonstrated by all the evolutionist responses to my post. None of them were able to address the issues that I raised.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
        • Alias

          The only issue you raised that wasn't addresses was the testability of the theory.
          There is no point in trying to explain why that is unreasonable in the context you want proposed.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          That would be because you didn't raise any actual issues... you used the typical ignorant creationist arguments to try to invalidate proven science... an argument that no creationist has ever won, since creationism is utter bullshit

          September 25, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          Lie4Him, So how did you verify creationism?

          September 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
    • JJ

      *groan*....I hope you're really an atheist and just trying to make Christians look stupid and ignorant. But if you are for real and I were a Christian, I would be embarrassed by you.

      September 25, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
  3. Circle

    Why is my opinion true? Because it is reasonable. Why is it reasonable? Because it isn’t faith. What happens if you reject faith? You think my opinion is true.
    What a beautiful circle. 🙂

    September 25, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      wrong. goes more like this:

      Why is my opinion true? Because it is reasonable. Why is it reasonable? Because it follows logic and reasoning. What happens if you reject faith? You free yourself from cult brainwashing.

      now that's beautiful. 🙂

      September 25, 2013 at 3:18 pm |
      • Darwin The Nut Case

        Atheism is also a belief system, which can also be defined as a cult.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
        • niknak

          You don't understand what the word atheism means Nut Case.
          Not surprising, as you don't seem to understand the concept of evolution either.

          A mind is a terrible thing to lose, to religion......

          September 25, 2013 at 3:32 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          i know what atheism means, stop lying to yourself. You won't even find two atheists who will agree about the definition of atheism.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:36 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          nut case, Atheism is lack of belief in a god – any god unlike you who only believes in one of the thousands currently worshipped. No cult.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
        • Richard Cranium

          And I agree with santa, so there's two atheists that agree.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
      • Circle

        For someone who claims they follow logic and reasoning you do some crazy things, like dedicating a large portion of your life to posting on a religious board acting hostile toward people with a different belief system than you. Great logical and reasoning minds are doing things that require great logical and reasoning capabilities. Talking about a religion you hate all day long is not one of those things.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:36 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          This is one of the best comment here today. Well said.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          Once again... we don't hate you. We just think you're stupid... There IS a difference.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
        • Richard Cranium

          Unless one finds it entertaining.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • Alias

      Opinions don't have to be either true or false.
      Facts are true.
      The bible is based on false ideas, but it does contain some truth. That is why it confuses so many people.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:21 pm |
      • Bootyfunk

        all religious texts contain some truth, nothing new there. religion mixes small bits of truth into the fiction.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          That's where the problem is, atheists took only the fiction parts of of the bible as an evidence to refute the existence of God.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:34 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          @Nut Case – Irony... look it up.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      if you're looking for an infinite loop, try faith:

      A) how do you know God is real?
      B) i know God is real because the bible says so.
      A) how do you know the bible is right?
      B) Because it's the word of God.
      A) how do you know God is real?
      B) i know God is real because the bible says so.
      A) how do you know the bible is right?
      B) Because it's the word of God.
      A) how do you know God is real?
      B) i know God is real because the bible says so.
      A) how do you know the bible is right?
      B) Because it's the word of God.
      ad infinitum

      September 25, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
      • Circle

        How do I know my opinion is logical
        Because it isn't faith
        Why isn't it faith
        Because I say it is logical
        How do I know my opinion is logical
        Because it isn't faith
        Why isn't it faith
        Because I say it is logical
        How do I know my opinion is logical
        Because it isn't faith
        Why isn't it faith
        Because I say it is logical
        How do I know my opinion is logical
        Because it isn't faith
        Why isn't it faith
        Because I say it is logical
        How do I know my opinion is logical
        Because it isn't faith
        Why isn't it faith
        Because I say it is logical

        September 25, 2013 at 3:38 pm |
        • Madtown

          Logic is generally objective. Faith is generally subjective.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
        • Circle

          Exactly, thanks. Tell that to the atheist who claims his/her opinion is more reasonable.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
        • Madtown

          Tell that to the atheist who claims his/her opinion is more reasonable.
          ------
          Subjective claims are more difficult(if even possible) to prove, i.e. faith-based claims. Often the objective claim is the more reasonable one.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
    • niknak

      That is because your opinion is a logical one based on facts, not faith.
      And your opinion will change as new facts are discovered.
      Unlike the believers, who base their opinion on no facts, but faith, that never changes even after 2000 years of social and scientific discovery.
      Sad really.
      I laugh at them, but making fun of the mentally handicapped is not cool.
      Hard not to laugh at adults who still have imaginary friends though.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:24 pm |
      • Circle

        Believers do not all think like you claim. And comparing them to the mentally ill because you don't like them is unreasonable.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
    • Live4Him

      @Circle : Why is my opinion true? Because it is reasonable. Why is it reasonable? Because it isn’t faith.

      Every opinion is based upon both facts and faith. Thus, you nullify your own argument. What's surprising is that everyone who responded positively to your post didn't recognize that fact.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
      • Circle

        I'm commenting on the atheist who claims their opinion is based on logic, with NO FAITH.
        Which is impossible!

        September 25, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
        • Live4Him

          Sorry, I misunderstood.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm |
        • sam stone

          "sorry, i misunderstood" – lie4him

          seems to be an ongoing issue with you

          September 26, 2013 at 4:36 am |
      • OKfine

        Live4Him
        Please if you are called for duty find a way to get out of it.
        Facts will provide what actually happened.
        Faith belief that is not based on proof.
        People that do not understand this should not have the option to pass judgement on anyone.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
        • OKfine

          Should be called foe jury duty, my bad.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
      • sam stone

        Every opinion is based on fact and faith?

        Tell us how free will is consistent with an omniscient god

        This is normally where the faithful turn tail and run

        Take a shot at it, Lie4Him

        September 25, 2013 at 9:05 pm |
  4. Lionly Lamb

    Why Cannabis is Illegal

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s21bbUwKofA&w=640&h=360]

    September 25, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
  5. Alias

    @Robert Brown
    Just curious, but when your god spoke and brought everything into being, what language was he speaking?

    September 25, 2013 at 3:04 pm |
    • R2B2

      What language do you use to communicate with Robert Brown?

      September 25, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
      • Alias

        I'm trying to use american english, buthe doesn't seem to understand it very well.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
    • niknak

      English of course.

      god had is planned all along that the US would be a xtian, English speaking nation, controlled by blond haired blue eyed white men.

      That is why jeebus looks the way he does.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:11 pm |
      • Bootyfunk

        jesus...
        long hair, great tan, six-pack abs, ever got with a woman, hung out with 12 dudes...
        yeah, pretty sure jesus would be pro g.ay marriage.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:14 pm |
        • Bill Deacon

          You actually saved that so you could copy and paste it again? wow.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
        • niknak

          Why not Deacon Billy Bob Blues, you believers have been copy and pasting your bible for 2000 years.
          Wow.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          Not every good looking men wants to be gay, booty. Only disgusting ones are being gay.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
      • Joey

        As a blonde haired, blue eyed, white man perhaps I should look into this whole god thing after all. I might enjoy being in control of the world.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
        • niknak

          Membership has it's privileges......

          September 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
        • Dippy

          Its, not it's.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
        • niknak

          Dang Dippy, you get me on that every time!
          Thanks.

          September 25, 2013 at 9:31 pm |
    • justine

      As God knows all languages, so He probably used the one which people understood at the time:)

      September 25, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
      • Joey

        According to the bible there was only one language until after the Tower of Babel, so which language was it?

        September 25, 2013 at 3:36 pm |
  6. Sea Otter (Leader of Allied Atheist Alliance)

    Creationist view of evolution
    Ms. Garrison: Okay children, it is now my job to teach you the theory of evolution.
    Butters: Oh, boy!
    Ms. Garrison: Now, I for one think that evolution is a bunch of bullcrap, but I'm told I have to teach it anyway. It was thought up by Charles Darwin and it goes something like this. In the beginning we were all fish, okay, swimming around in the water. And then one day a couple of fish had a retard baby, and the retard baby was different, so it got to live. So retard fish goes on to make more retard babies, and then one day a retard baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its mutant fish hands, and it had butt-sex with a squirrel or something, and made this...retard frog-squirrel, and then that had a retard baby which was a monkey-fish-frog, and then this monkey-fish-frog had butt-sex with that monkey; that monkey had a mutant retard baby that screwed another monkey and that made you. So there you go. You're the retarded offspring of five monkeys having butt-sex with a fish-squirrel, congratulations!
    Cartman: Arrrghh! I can't take it anymore! [runs of screaming]
    Ms. Garrison: See, I knew that would happen.

    September 25, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      LOL!

      September 25, 2013 at 3:03 pm |
    • OKfine

      Is that you Topher.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
  7. Vik100

    It is CNN's job is to attack Chistianity. We have that clear.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
    •  

      Godless Vagabond
      Somebody's got to do it, it might as well be them.

      September 25, 2013 at 2:57 pm |
      • Live4Him

        Isn't that why America was founded – to attack other's beliefs so that all citizens believe the same thing?

        September 25, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
        • Alias

          No,live4him, America was founded by people trying to get away from people like you.
          Of course, at the time people like you were in power.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
    • Alias

      If they were attacking christians, they would give more coverage to priests that get caught with pantless 15 year old boys.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      the classic christian "everyone is attacking me"

      go through the blog and you will find 1 in 5 articles "negative" about the church - the rest are pro-fluff pieces. so stop your crying, you're not being attacked. if anything, CNN still kisses your @ss.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
      • Darwin The Nut Case

        The paranoia of atheists feeling persecuted is far more evident than those who are believers. Atheists keeps coming back for more.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
        • Bootyfunk

          yes, it's like arguing with a wall - i don't know why we do it sometimes...

          September 25, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
        •  

          Godless Vagabond
          Actually a wall has some virtues even the religies don't have. And it's a little higher on the IQ thermometer.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:15 pm |
        • Alias

          Don't lose hope Booty – we are winning over the children with our facts and rational thinking.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          Rational thinking? Is this a joke? Atheists are using a 2000 years old bible quotes and passages as evidences that proves God don't exist.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
        • Dippy

          Doesn't, not don't.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          Dippy you should get a job in text corrections somewhere instead of losing your life being here.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • Ben Franklin

      "If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England." [in London at the time]

      September 25, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • niknak

      That is right (P)rik, everyone is out to get you xtians.
      Move as far away from anyone who does not look or think just like you, it is the only way to be safe.
      Everyone hates xtianity and wants to see it fail, including CNN.

      There, happy now?

      September 25, 2013 at 3:14 pm |
    • sam stone

      No, Vik. What is clear is the delusion and paranoia among christians

      September 25, 2013 at 9:07 pm |
  8. Tom, Tom, the Other One

    Really this is just a sort of poetic fugue, Robert. It would be more interesting if you could dig into the Hebrew.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
    • Live4Him

      care to elucidate your post? I can dig into the Hebrew, so what's your point?

      September 25, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
      • Tom, Tom, the Other One

        Robert's focus on certain words from the Creation account(s) in Genesis. Seven words, I think, including "let", "divided", and "made".

        September 25, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      The word created is used 3 times. This is from memory so please forgive if I foul it up. I think the hebrew is bara. A different hebrew word is used for the others. It is very interesting but I've never studied hebrew.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:34 pm |
      • Tom, Tom, the Other One

        "Let", the English word, is particularly interesting, Robert. Was this God saying that something should be allowed to happen and, once allowed, would happen without any more activity on its part?

        September 25, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
        • Robert Brown

          Could be. The idea of posting all that was to point out what you asking. I don't think it worked out as I intended. To me the biggest separation between evolution and creation is time.

          September 25, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
        • Robert Brown

          Are

          September 25, 2013 at 7:39 pm |
  9.  Inquiry & verification in the Christian fundamentalist mindset - how does it work?

    Let's take a peek:

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YIj4rLYo0c&w=640&h=360]

    September 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
    • Look, you need to let them down easy.. the discussion in this vid explains some of the problems...

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUg-1NCCowc&w=640&h=360]

      September 25, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
  10. Bootyfunk

    champions of child molestation - catholics everywhere should be proud.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • Darwin The Nut Case

      Just remember, those were gay pedophiles.

      September 25, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
      • Bootyfunk

        there's no such thing. pedophilia is a crime against a child, doesn't matter what s.ex. there are plenty of child molestation cases involving a man and a little girl - is that an indication there is something wrong with being straight? no, of course not. you have a child-like understanding of psychology.

        September 25, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          if you don't have a deviant $exual personality you will be a straight person. Gays are not born that way, they are because of choice. A pedophile with a preference for male is a gay pedophile.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
      • Mae

        The female victims, of which there are many, disagree with your preconceived notions, Nut Case.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          A person with a young female preference is an hetero pedophile period. Same thing goes for men with a young male preference, they are gay pedophile period,

          September 25, 2013 at 3:45 pm |
  11. Lionly Lamb

    How did Marijuana Become illegal? (Documentary)

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcS4aLKOZ5U&w=640&h=360]

    September 25, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
  12. Robert Brown

    God tells us in the first chapter of the bible several things he did. He created, moved, said, let, saw, divided, called, made, set, and blessed.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:33 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      what about the chapters where God slaughters and maims?

      September 25, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
      • Darwin The Nut Case

        You seem to be very interested in reading the bible, you keep talking about it.

        September 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
        • Bootyfunk

          i've already read the bible. yes, it is very interesting. i also find greek, norse and egyptian mythologies interesting. crazy what people will make up...

          September 25, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
        • Bootyfunk

          btw, might want to drop "Darwin" from your handle and just keep "the nut case".

          that you're proud of not believing in evolution says you are proud of not using your frontal lobe.

          September 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          How can i make usage of my frontal lobe, my ancestors were monkeys. At least from what you're saying.

          September 25, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
        • Bootyfunk

          the same monkeys we share 98% of our DNA with? lol. why would our ancestors being monkeys keep us from using our brains now? your statements continue to show a lack of understanding of complex topics.

          September 25, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
        • Roger that

          Here's an assignment for you nut case. Read the Bible yourself as if you were reading the Quran or a Stephen King novel. You will then know what Bootyfunk is talking about.

          September 25, 2013 at 2:55 pm |
        • Darwin was Right

          I am also share 50% of my DNA with banana trees. Explains the large curvature in my britches.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:03 pm |
        • Darwin was Right

          *sharing*

          September 25, 2013 at 3:03 pm |
        • Richard Cranium

          no nut case. Not monkeys.
          We are Apes, with common ancestors to monkeys. We are not monkeys.

          H0m0 Sapiens means literally wise ape.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:09 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          Booty don't try to impress people with words that contains15 letters in them. Let's go straight to the point and please avoid those politicians kind of speech to go around the subject without ever answering. You atheists are saying that we are coming down from monkeys. There's nothing complicated there, that's basically what you've been preaching all the time.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
    • Madtown

      God tells us in the first chapter of the bible several things he did.
      ----–
      Interesting. Since God did not author the bible, how do we make the logical leap to conclude that he did these things?

      September 25, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • sam stone

      i, for one, am extremely grateful that god sent such an eloquent prophet as robbie here to tell us what he thinks

      September 25, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
      • Robert Brown

        Thanks

        September 25, 2013 at 7:41 pm |
        • sam stone

          No problem.

          Time to get back on your knees

          No use risking god seeing you trying to be a man

          September 25, 2013 at 9:21 pm |
        • Robert Brown

          You're probably right, I could use more prayer time.

          September 25, 2013 at 9:25 pm |
        • sam stone

          if god has a plan, how is prayer NOT blasphemous?

          can god be pet-i-t-ioned?

          do you purport to know more than god?

          September 26, 2013 at 4:39 am |
  13. Robert Brown

    Created

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

    So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      you should put "Once upon a time" at the beginning of your fairy tale.

      September 25, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
      • Darwin The Nut Case

        Well for someone who don't believe in God, you seem to know a lot about the bible, don't you?

        September 25, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
        • Bootyfunk

          which is par for the course. surveys show that atheists, in general, have more biblical knowledge than the average christian. basically, it shows atheists make a more education choice. thanks for noticing!

          September 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
        • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

          Knowledge is power

          September 25, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          Funny how atheists have more knowledge about the bible than others but on the other hand you don't believe in God based on that same book. If this is were you've found your evidence to say God don't exist, then you miserably failed.

          .

          September 25, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
        • Bootyfunk

          again, your reasoning is at a 3rd grade level. how do you explain people who study Norse mythology? they know a lot about odin, thor and loki, so they must be closeted believers...? hahaha, you're sooooooo dumb.

          September 25, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          Don't be an hypocrite, the only evidence that you atheists have for saying that God don't existed is because of the Bible. You based all you hypothesis on that book. You have nothing else. You keep proving that every time your opening your mouths.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:02 pm |
        • Bootyfunk

          oh nutcase, you really don't value cognitive thinking, do you?

          WE don't need to provide evidence that something does NOT exist. in fact, that's impossible. if you know how to prove a negative, please enlighten us.

          for instance, can you prove my left nut is NOT god? no, you can't. so therefore my left nut is god.

          we quote your bible because it is YOUR "proof" that god exists. we should you how silly and cruel the book is, how it doesn't make sense. we can prove several things in the bible are false. we know the bible mentions unicorns, dragons, satyrs and c.cokatrice. we know the bible says there are talking snakes and talking donkeys. the bible says a man lived in the belly of a whale for 3 days. there are numerous examples of silliness in the bible - which shows it is not to be taken seriously. it is a book of myth, no different from holy writings of any other god/dess.

          try cognitive thinking - you won't regret it

          September 25, 2013 at 3:09 pm |
        • Darwin The Nut Case

          Cognitive thinking, rational thinking, fallacies and bigots, bla bla bla. you sound like a broken record. Your so called rational, cognitive thinking is so stupid that you are blind of any evidences before your own eyes. You say we share common dna with monkey, of course we do, monkeys are the closest thing to human as far as physical similarities, but that's where it ends. We share nothing else but only that. Just like your definition of a pedophile by famous psychiatric, they are so far from the truth because of their blindness for rational thinking. If Hawking tells you to jump in the water and you won't drowned, you will do it. That's how stupid atheists are, just because someone became famous as a scientist and no matter how wrong he can be, you will all believe him. You atheists consider yourselves as thinkers, but you don't even think by yourselves, all you do is just repeating what you've read or being taught.

          September 25, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
      • Live4Him

        That's left to the evolutionist. Once upon a time, there was this singularity which magically exploded into stars and planets. Then, with more magic, life began and magically evolved into all the species we see today.

        September 25, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
        • Alias

          Who said there was a singularity?
          I think you are confusing your bible with reality again.
          I see no reason to think all matter that exists was in the big bang.

          September 25, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
        • Bootyfunk

          you won't find "magic" in a science book - but you'll find plenty in the bible.

          how was the world made? god magicked it up!
          religion teaches people to be intellectually lazy.
          why look for the answers - Goddidit!

          so your answer for how the world was made is that your invisible sky fairy magicked it all up? haha.

          September 25, 2013 at 2:57 pm |
        • Live4Him

          @Alias : Who said there was a singularity?

          Go read up on the Big Bang theory.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
        • Richard Cranium

          Not magic liar, physics.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:02 pm |
        • Alias

          Okay, the theory says there was a big bang.
          Why is it not possible for matter to exist that was not a part of it?

          September 25, 2013 at 3:16 pm |
        • Yes but Spin4Him's Recipe

          always calls for three full cups of "spo</boky" physics.

          September 25, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
        • Yes but Spin4Him's Recipe

          "spooky"

          September 25, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
    •  

      Godless Vagabond
      And a disclaimer to prevent people from thinking it's true.

      September 25, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • OKfine

      In the beginning there was nothing in the universe except a formless chaos. However this chaos coalesced into a cosmic egg for about 18.000 years. Within it, the perfectly opposed principles of Yin and Yang became balanced and Pangu emerged from the egg.
      Just one earth and so many creation myths, explain why yours is the best Robert, if you can. BTW yours has so many contradictions to make it laughable.

      September 25, 2013 at 3:04 pm |
  14. Robert Brown

    Moved

    And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      ^^ cult babble ^^

      September 25, 2013 at 2:57 pm |
    • Ryan

      And what exactly were these atheists expecting to read in the belief blog, the Mass–energy equivalence?!?

      September 25, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
      • Bootyfunk

        discussions about religion, not quotes from your holy book.

        hard concept to grasp, eh?

        September 25, 2013 at 3:15 pm |
  15. Robert Brown

    said

    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

    And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

    And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

    And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

    And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

    And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      ^^ cult babble ^^

      September 25, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Ryan

      And what exactly were these atheists expecting to read in the belief blog, the Euclidean geometry ?!?

      September 25, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
    • fintastic

      I really wish you believers would be more specific about which god you're refering to.

      September 26, 2013 at 8:11 am |
  16. Robert Brown

    Let

    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

    And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

    And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

    And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

    And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven

    And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth

    September 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      ^^ cult babble ^^

      September 25, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
      • derp

        ^^Bootyfunk bot babble^^

        September 25, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • Ryan

      And what exactly were these atheists expecting to read in the belief blog, the orbital velocity of the earth?!?

      September 25, 2013 at 2:59 pm |

      • The earth does not move.

        September 25, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
      • Ernest T Bass

        What do atheists expect to read on the belief blog? lets see..... the universe is only 2000 years old, the earth is flat, talking snakes, imaginary devil person, god, heaven, heII, .... shall I go on??

        September 26, 2013 at 8:28 am |
  17. Robert Brown

    Saw

    And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

    And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

    And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

    And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

    And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

    And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
  18. Robert Brown

    Divided

    And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      ^^ cult babble ^^

      September 25, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Ryan

      And what exactly were these atheists expecting to read in the belief blog, the mathematics of general relativity ?!?

      September 25, 2013 at 3:03 pm |
    • Ernest T Bass

      The devil hid dinosaur bones to fool us?

      September 26, 2013 at 8:29 am |
  19. Robert Brown

    Called

    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.

    And God called the firmament Heaven.

    And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

    September 25, 2013 at 2:25 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      ^^ cult babble ^^

      September 25, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Ryan

      And what exactly were these atheists expecting to read in the belief blog, about willy wonka & the chocolate factory?!?

      September 25, 2013 at 3:04 pm |
      • Bill Deacon

        They expect to show up with the theological temperament of an eighth grader, make smug self congratulatory remarks and have people with a living faith say "Wow, you're right." Talk about delusional.

        September 25, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
        • Izzy Goldstein

          You have to admit, it's fun to laugh at the fundies! They're so stupid! They believe an invisible man lives in the sky.

          September 25, 2013 at 11:55 pm |
        • sam stone

          izzy: it's like shooting cows with a high powered rifle and a scope

          September 26, 2013 at 4:41 am |
        • sam stone

          the creator of the whole universe wants nothing more than to spend eternity with you in a place of no pain and no suffering, and it's atheists who are delusional?

          September 26, 2013 at 4:44 am |
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