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October 1st, 2013
09:52 AM ET

Study: American Jews losing their religion

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-editor

(CNN) - The number of nonreligious Jews is rising in the United States, with more than one in five saying they are not affiliated with any faith, according to a new survey.

While similar trends affect almost every American religion, Jewish leaders say the new survey spotlights several unique obstacles for the future of their faith.

According to the survey, conducted by Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project, non-religious Jews are less likely to care deeply about Israel, donate to Jewish charities, marry Jewish spouses and join Jewish organizations.

Pew says their study sought to explore the question, "What does being Jewish in America mean today?" The answer is quite complicated.

Just 15% of American Jews say that being Jewish is mainly a religious matter, according to Pew's survey. By contrast, more than six in 10 say Jewishness is about culture, ancestry and identity.

The most essential parts of being Jewish, according to American Jews, are remembering the Holocaust (73%), leading an ethical life (69%) and working for social justice and peace (56%).

Almost as many American Jews say that having good sense of humor (42%) is as important to their Jewish identity as caring about Israel (43%).

Even among religious Jews, most say it's not necessary to believe in God to be Jewish, and less than one in three say religion is very important to their lives.

Nearly all American Jews  - religious and secular - say they are proud to be Jewish.

"The fact that many Jews tell us that religion is not particularly important to them doesn't mean that being Jewish is not important to them," said Greg Smith, director of religious surveys for the Pew Research Center.

The most essential parts of being Jewish, according to the survey, are remembering the Holocaust (73%), leading an ethical life (69%) and working for social justice and peace (56%).

Overall, the majority of Jews (78%) call themselves religious, but the survey showed much lower rates of religious affiliation among millennials, one of several trends that trouble Jewish leaders.

Nearly a third of American Jews born after 2000 answered "none" when asked about their religious affiliation, suggesting that Jewish "nones" are not only a large group, they're growing, Smith said.

The rise of Jewish "nones" tracks with wider trends in the American population, where about a third of millennials don't affiliate with organized religion.

The nonpartisan Pew Research Center says its survey is the most comprehensive since the National Jewish Population Survey in 2000-2001.

Pew surveyed 3,475 Jews from across the country from February 20 to June 13, with a margin of error for the full sample of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

The study declines to offer a definitive estimate of the size of the American Jewish population, a matter of heated debate in recent years.

Instead, Pew offered several tallies of American Jews, depending on different definitions of Jewish identity.

Approximately 4.2 million American adults - 1.8% of the overall population - identify as Jewish by religion. In the 1950s, the percentage of religious Jews in the United States was nearly twice as high, according to Pew.

Meanwhile, about 1.2 million adult Americans now identify as secular or cultural Jews - they were raised Jewish, had a Jewish parent and still consider themselves Jewish, even though they don't practice the religion, according to Pew.

Secular Jews are much more likely to marry outside the faith, according to Pew, a trend that has worried Jewish leaders in recent years.

Nearly 60% of American Jews who have married since 2000 have a non-Jewish spouse, according to Pew.

Intermarried Jews, like secular Jews, are much less likely to raise their children in the Jewish faith and have weaker ties to the Jewish community, says Pew's report.

But, in a silver lining for Jewish leaders, intermarriage rates have leveled off, Smith said, holding steady at 60% since the mid-1990s.

Jane Eisner, editor-in-chief of the Jewish Daily Forward, said she is not surprised that the study found relatively low interest in Jewish religious beliefs.

"We are a people very much defined by what we do, rather than what we believe," she said.

But Eisner said she is concerned that millennials are less likely to donate to Jewish charities, care strongly about Israel or belong to Jewish groups.

"It's great that these non-religious Jews feel pride in being Jewish," Eisner said. "What worries me is their tenuous ties to the community."

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Belief • Judaism • Polls • Trends

soundoff (1,967 Responses)
  1. Sue

    @Ron, stuff your absurd "prophecy" posts already. Anyone can make vague "prophecies", and enough stuff happens over time that they might eventually be right. Prophecies that don't include dates for the prophesied events are generally B-S.

    Present a prophecy with an actual predicted date in it, and then show how the predicted event later happened on that date. or else we can safely conclude that your post is complete, utter, stinking bullshit and that you suck.

    K. Thanx.

    October 3, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
    • Ron

      Ah Sue, stop being so busy resisting and fighnting God and get busy serving Him. Your life will be far more fulfilling. Isaiah was writting about 700 years before Messiah and speaks of His atonement in great detail. With prophecy, God gives the prophecy and fulfills it in the future. Sometimes the very near future from the time of the prophecy and other times the very distant future. That is His business. Those who are of God receive and believe God's Words. It is not our place to give Him conditions. We come to Him on His terms.

      October 3, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
      • HotAirAce

        Based on the complete lack of any evidence, it is highly unlikely that any god exists. In other words, most likely there is no "lord" to serve.

        October 3, 2013 at 7:58 pm |
      • WestNorthWest

        Ron, why would your sky ass hole, who purportedly has or can make anything, need Sue to "serve" him? Just one more absurdity of your pathetic Christian fairy tale. Your religion is mainly fiction. Get over it, stupid.

        October 5, 2013 at 11:52 am |
  2. Topher

    "I love the Lord, because He hath heard my voice and my supplications. Because He hath inclined His ear unto me, therefore will I call upon Him as long as I live."

    Psalm 116:1-2

    October 3, 2013 at 6:55 pm |
    • Topher

      Austin, is that me?

      October 3, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • Lisa

      Why does God need ears?

      October 3, 2013 at 7:12 pm |
    • Ron

      Amen, The Psalmist David knew the Lord and witnessed countless answers to his prayers. He also wrote about those who resisted the Lord: "The fool has said in his heart there is no God." Psalm 14:1/Psalm 53:1

      October 3, 2013 at 7:43 pm |
      • sam stone

        wow, one deluded person saying "amen" in support of another deluded person's blathering of iron age comic book fare

        that "amen" sure added credibility to the ground dwelling rodent's claim

        brav-fvcking-oh

        a

        October 4, 2013 at 9:40 am |
  3. Lionly Lamb

    Mechanically aspired are all things ever to have so far been lived and still yet are alive... We all are but machined molecular variables within a branch of genetic encoding emulsifying into arranged cellular cosmologies... Each embodied cell is stretched and arranged; each accordingly toward being entrusted for the overall welfare issues of the cellular embodiment's wholesomeness... To say, "There is no God.." gives rise to Life undeniably sprouting from the firmament and ooze or mire and clay...

    God is made mention to have created us humanoids from dust... Stardust maybe..? And then God mixed the stardust with mire and clay and even ooze and firmament to begin the Evolutionary Trees of all terrestrial mannerisms within all Life's living cellular creations of Atomized Cosmological Orders... Who but the unlimited generations of God and their living upon the surfaces of atomic structures could build all the mechanically made atomized molecular creations of all Celestially Terrestrial Life Formations including atomically made bio-molecular humanoids..? For science to say that all of Life is made as being atomized molecular machines then, "Who are these incredibly small machines' operators and mechanics.?"

    Surely, most of these atomically manufactured substrates of machined technologies did not arise thru mere chance... Who can honestly think that our humanoid-framed celestially-atomized bio-molecular mass of living organic machines do not need engineers and mechanics and operators..? Who's to say what Fractals of Atomic Micro-Cosmologies becoming Fractals of Celestial Cosmologies where coming thru time's progressives; up jumps all sorts of trees of varying Cellular Cosmologies..?

    October 3, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • Youtube - The Origin of Religion

      "And then God mixed the stardust with mire and clay and even ooze and firmament to begin the Evolutionary Trees of all terrestrial mannerisms within all Life's living cellular creations of Atomized Cosmological Orders..."

      So, as we say, where's the proof of a god (God) that did this? Would that proof be in the Holocaust? Would it be in the tsunami that killed 200,000 people? Would it be in the Europeans who massacred and enslaved the peoples of the New World in the name of their Christian God? Would it be in the bigotry and prejudice found in his places of worship this day?

      No, instead he was born of a virgin, so that we could kill him, so that we would be forgiven, for the eternal sin that he placed upon us? This makes no sense.

      October 3, 2013 at 9:00 pm |
  4. 7

    Hello folks.

    Everyone is invited to visit –

    http://thetreasureofzion.com/

    October 3, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
  5.  Doris

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1te01rfEF0g&w=640&h=360]

    October 3, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
    •  

      (Neil deGrasse Tyson on the god of the gaps arguement & intelligent design)

      October 3, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
      • Youtube - The Origin of Religion

        What a great talk.

        October 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
    • lol??

      ...........................HANDS UP........................

      "I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it!! You can't prove it! You're profiling my notes!! Doris is lying!! She's lying!! She's a STALKER!!"

      October 3, 2013 at 6:33 pm |
  6. Ron

    "I saw One like the Son of man coming with the clouds of heaven." ...Daniel 7:13 "..and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." ...Mathew 24:30 Jesus referred to Himself as the One who will fulfill this prophecy from Daniel when He returns.

    October 3, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Way too vague.

      October 3, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
      • Ron

        Cmon santa, stop resisting the Lord. Is that really your objection?

        October 3, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          There's no evidence of a god. Present some evidence and we'd all be believers.

          October 3, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
        • Ron

          In santa, The Lord makes it clear that if we reject His Words, we would reject Him if He were to appear to us Himself. If you reject the Word of God you are rejecting the Lord.

          October 3, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
        • HotAirAce

          Ron, prove there is a lord or admit that your religious beliefs have no factual, objective, verifiable or independent foundation.

          October 3, 2013 at 5:35 pm |
    • ME II

      Didn't Jesus come to fulfill the law / prophecy? What's this about coming *again* to fulfill it? What went wrong the first time?

      October 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
      • Ron

        Indeed Me II, good question. He fulfilled the law and the prophets concerning all that was written of Him as the suffering servant. And He will return just as it is written of Him. Tanach (Old Testament) makes it clear that Messiah has two eras or two dispensations of time in which He will minister and rule. 1: as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world (suffering servant) and 2: as Messiah who will return to reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

        October 3, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
        • ME II

          Ah, I see. So the Jews that expected the Messiah to do both the first time around just misunderstood. Is that it?

          October 3, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
        • Ron

          Me II, that is correct. Look it up for yourself. Clearly the Spirit speaks of two seperate dispensations.

          October 3, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
        • ME II

          @Ron,
          "Clearly the Spirit speaks of two seperate dispensations."

          I'd hate to misunderstand you, please cite your reference.

          October 4, 2013 at 11:48 am |
        • Ron

          Me II, The Holy Books were written by men of God who were moved by the Spirit of God. The Holy Books are the Word of God.

          October 4, 2013 at 8:22 pm |
        • joe

          The Holy Books were written by men of God who were moved by the Spirit of God. The Holy Books are the Word of God.
          -------
          Holy? Are the full of holes? The books were written by primitive, uneducated men and are full of errors and contradictions. And there are literally hundreds of them. In the 300s A.D. a group of men chose a few to bind together to become the bible. No god present anywhere in the process.

          October 5, 2013 at 11:29 am |
        • HotAirAce

          Ron, you've made a number of claims about your god and some book. What evidence do you have to back up those claims?

          October 4, 2013 at 8:27 pm |
    • Ben

      Ron
      Wouldn't it have been rather easy for whoever wrote Matthew to lay open the Jewish scriptures and have their Jesus refer to any of them? Call it "Creative Licence".

      October 3, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
      • Ron

        Sure it would. But then the One about whom they wrote would have to die for the sins of the people and then rise from the dead. That however, would not be as easy.

        October 3, 2013 at 7:46 pm |
        • Ben

          Easy enough for a Jew to get crucified, and easy enough for rumours to spread that he had risen. Think of all the Elvis sightings just after his death. True fans find it difficult to let go.

          October 4, 2013 at 8:30 am |
        • HotAirAce

          Easy or hard, it has not been proven that anyone, mere mortal or alleged god, has ever risen from the dead. Go ahead believers, *prove* me wrong.

          October 4, 2013 at 11:53 am |
        • fred

          Hot Air
          You are still talking about Jesus today, militant atheists fight against Jesus, millions of people each year are saved when they call upon the name of Jesus, etc. etc.etc.
          On a personal note I came upon a man one dark evening looking for someone's son who was homeless. When I said Jesus sent me I heard a click and noticed he put his blade back in his pocket. I have helped hundreds of families in the name of Jesus to turn their lives around.
          When we say Jesus lives He lives and does so powerfully through us.

          October 4, 2013 at 12:05 pm |
        • fred

          HotAirACe
          You cannot expect proof of the spiritual from that which is limited to the physical that lends itself to scientific evaluation. The properties of the spiritual remain a part of the greater unknown regardless of belief or non belief. Since all recorded history man has looked to that which to this day remains a mystery. There is your proof that something exists which cannot be scientifically quantified.
          Atheists for the past 200 years rely by faith on a notion that we will soon know the unknowable. Well get real and look logically at that faith. All evidence points to the fact that the unknown is not knowable by any stretch of the imagination to this very day. Evidence points clear that the unknown today is greater in scope than it was 2,000 years ago. Science is coming around to that which is self evident; the more we know the more wonder and awe we uncover in a quest that has limitless boundaries.
          There is no end (boundary) to time and space. As such, one cannot grasp the eternal or infinite scope of that which we know exists outside the boundaries of knowable.

          October 4, 2013 at 12:52 pm |
        • Fallacy Spotting 101

          Post by 'fred' presents a Straw Man Argument and includes an instance of a Secret Decoder Ring fallacy.

          http://fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html

          October 5, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
  7. Ron

    "I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind (Jews and Gentiles); And your sons and your daughters will prophesy, Your old men will dream dreams, You yound men will see visions." ...Joel 2:28 Fuilfilled at Pentecost 50 days after the finished work (atonement) of Messiah. God poured out His Spirit there, and is still pouring out His Spirit. Praise the Lord!

    October 3, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Way too vague.

      October 3, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
  8. Ron

    "Behold days are coming declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah...I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it." ....Jeremiah 31:31 New Covenant or New Testament foretold. God accomplishes this through faith in Messiah Jesus, and the direction of His Holy Spirit within.

    October 3, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Way too vague.

      October 3, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      @Ron, Have you ever seen those kids that are really into Harry Potter? They dress like the characters, they quote the book. If you're not a complete Harry Potter nut, then you probably think it's a little bit crazy. That's the general feeling I get when I see people posting prophesy quotes from a 2k year old book. The only difference is, most of these Harry Potter fanatics are just kids trying to fit in... unless that also applies to you.

      October 3, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
      • Ron

        Free, I'm sorry you find yourself so spiritually challenged that you cannot make a distinction between God Almighty and Harry Potter.

        October 3, 2013 at 5:43 pm |
        • HotAirAce

          Until someone proves that even just one supernatural being exists, there is no difference between The Babble and any other work of fiction. You believe things for which there is no evidence – none, not even after centuries of wild claims. You are mentally ill, a liar or both. Go ahead, prove me and all skeptics wrong. Please don't disappoint.

          October 3, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
        • GodFreeNow

          @Ron,
          On the contrary, I feel great joy and peace with who I am and my life. I live and love to the fullest. I used to believe everything you do. The problem is, you think that god=spiritual. People were spiritual long before Abraham's god showed up on the scene. The oldest recorded deity is a rainbow snake. Your god, is just this era's rainbow snake.

          There are more things in heaven and earth... Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

          October 3, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
        • sam stone

          spiritually challenged?

          you are a pompous punk

          October 4, 2013 at 10:50 am |
    • Sue

      Ron: Shush already. Prophecies that don't include dates are generally B-S. Present a prophecy with an actual predicted date in it, and then show how the predicted event later happened on that date, or else we can safely conclude that your posts about prophecy are complete bullshit.

      October 5, 2013 at 12:02 pm |
  9. Sue

    @Ron: Shush already. Prophecies that don't include dates are generally B-S. Present a prophecy with an actual predicted date in it, and then show how the predicted date later happened on that date, or else we can safely conclude that your posts about prophecy are complete bullshit.

    October 3, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
  10. Sue

    @Ron: Shush already. Prophecies that don't include dates are generally B-S. Present a prophecy with an actual predicted date in it, and then show how the predicted date later happened on that date, or else we can safely conclude that your post about prophecy are complete bullshit.

    October 3, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
  11. Ron

    "Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him, ..when Thou shall make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days." ...Isaiah 53:10 After the atonement of Jesus, the Lord prolonged His days.....Resurrection! Foretold hundreds of years before He came. "Seed" refers to spiritual seed, those who would believe in Him.

    October 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
    •  

      (Gullible's Travels, Part 1)

      October 3, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Or more likely the Jesus myth was constructed to give the appearance of fulfilling prophesies.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
      •  Doris

        Most likely. And I think there were probably some contractual obligations between Gullible's Travels, parts 1 & 2, even though a lot of the directors and writers changed.

        October 3, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • David Wright

      Isaiah 53:3-7 “He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
      • Ron

        Hi David, and that is so right.

        October 3, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
      • Ben

        The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 is the nation of Israel, not Jesus. All you need to do is read from Isaiah 52 to get that context.

        Yet it was the Lord's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days -Isaiah 53:10

        If the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is Jesus, how can verse ten apply to him? Jesus had no offspring, and his days were certainly not prolonged, as tradition has long stated that Christ died around the age of 30.

        October 4, 2013 at 10:21 am |
  12. Doris

    Published on Jan 14, 2013

    In 2001, scientists announced an amazing discovery: the oldest skull of a human ancestor ever found. The 3½ million year old fossil was remarkably complete, and unlike any previous fossil find. Its discovery – by a team led by Meave Leakey of the famous Leakey fossil-hunting family – has revolutionised our understanding of how humans evolved.

    The great mystery of our evolution is how an ape could have evolved into the extraordinary creature that is a human being. There has never been another animal like us on the planet. And yet ten million years ago there was no sign that humans would take over the world. Instead the Earth was dominated by the apes. More than 50 different species of ape roamed the world – ten million years ago Earth really was the planet of the apes. Three million years later, most had vanished. In their place came something clearly related to the apes, but also completely different: human beings!

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnF3iSrrIWY&w=640&h=360]

    October 3, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • Reverend Ambush

      The Theory of Human Evolution does not claim that Man evolved from Apes, nor did Darwin ever claim that. Humans and apes share a common ancestor and their evolutionary paths diverged from there, one did not evolve from the other.

      October 4, 2013 at 3:39 pm |
      • drjehr

        To Reverend Ambush: The Theory of Evolution DOES clam that we all evolved from a common ancestor. Every creature on earth shares a common ancestor, and a little study of biology makes it clear. We all share common biochemistry, use DNA to transmit heredity, etc. Comparing a chimp to man reveals that over 95% of the DNA is identical in both species. This neither supports nor refutes religion. Science basically studies "how" things happen, not the fundamental "why" thing happen. The root of the word science means "to know." Religion isn't about knowledge; it's about faith. Feel free to believe whatever you wish. As Jefferson said, a man's religion is best kept between himself and his maker.

        October 13, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
  13. Ron

    "Surely our griefs He Himself bore, nd our sorrows He carried; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted." Isaiah 53:4 Jesus bore our sins. Foretold hundreds of years before He came.

    October 3, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
    • sam stone

      Spend a lot of time on your knees, do your Ron? Do you also whip yourself?

      October 3, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
      • Ron

        Hi Sammy, still stumbling in the dark I see.

        October 3, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
        • sam stone

          naw, ronnie boy..pretty light here

          as it should be

          not sucking up to iron age gods

          October 4, 2013 at 11:19 am |
        • Ron

          God is God for all ages. Even this delusional age which you prefer.

          October 4, 2013 at 8:25 pm |
    • Sue

      Ron: Prophecies that don't include dates are generally B-S. Present a prophecy with an actual predicted date in it, and then show how the predicted date later happened on that date. or else we can safely conclude that your post is complete bullshit. K. Thanx.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
      • Ron

        As you wish. You choose to remain ignorant. Its easy to look up the dates of the writings. Clearly Messiah's ministry as suffering servant was foretold from Genesis through Malachi.

        October 3, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          Dates in the prophesy not the date of the prophesy – Jesus will do this on this date, etc.

          October 3, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
        • Ben

          Jesus wasn't the "Suffering Servant" of Isaiah 53, the people of Israel were.

          This is explained in the previous chapter, Isaiah 52.

          Why do so many people make such a simple mistake?

          October 3, 2013 at 7:16 pm |
        • Ron

          Ben, sorry it doesn't work that way. How can Israel atone for the sins of Israel? God always required a sacrifice for the sins of the people in the law. Leviticus....etc. You should know that. To atone for the sins of mankind a Lamb without spot was required. Messiah Jesus is indeed the Lamb without spot or blemish. He who was without sin, atoned for the sins of others. He is God's Chosen One foretold in Tanach.

          October 3, 2013 at 7:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Since you want to go on about Isaiah 53, Ron, why is it that Jesus, if he's the one Isaiah is speaking of, did not live long and see his offspring as the prophecy says?

      October 3, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
      • Ron

        Tom, good question and yes He indeed did live long enough. The offspring about which the Spirit through Isaiah is referring is spiritual, that is believers. Jesus was resurrected from the dead (days prolonged) so that He saw them then, and He is seeing His "spiritual" offspring now, and He will see His offsrping in the future.

        October 3, 2013 at 5:38 pm |
    • Ben

      Ron
      That means "our sins" as Jews, that the nation of Israel suffered for. Try reading the previous chapter instead of just cherry-picking 53 and taking it out of context.

      October 3, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
    • Ben

      Ron
      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC7lb-ABe0g&w=640&h=360]

      October 3, 2013 at 7:33 pm |
  14. Ron

    "I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and supplication, so that they will look on Me Whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son." ...Zechariah 12:10 Prophecied that Israel will receive Messiah upon His return.

    October 3, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
    •  Doris

      You didn't think they would write a new screenplay and not have it fit nicely with the old one, did you?

      October 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
  15. Ron

    "Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?" Isaiah 53:1 Prophecied that few would receive their Messiah as suffering servant.

    October 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
    • Sue

      Ron: Prophecies that don't include dates are generally B-S. Present a prophecy with an actual predicted date in it, and then show how the predicted date later happened on that date, or else we can safely conclude that your post is complete bullshit.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
  16. Stephen

    I had no religious affiliation for many years, I still do not like most organized religion. However, having received Yeshua-Jesus as my Messiah and Savior, life for me dramatically changed. I know now that God is very real. I know now that Yeshua is His Only Son, and that He atoned for my sins. Now I have peace with God through faith in Yeshua and am totally fulfiilled. Shalom

    October 3, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
    • Veronica

      This is mental illness, pure and simple.

      October 5, 2013 at 8:21 pm |
  17. Youtube - The Origin of Religion

    Origin of Religion[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50&w=640&h=390]

    October 3, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
  18. SJ

    I know this is a tad off topic but in case you all didn’t hear they killed the female suspect who set fire on the US capital earlier today.

    October 3, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
    • Sea Otter (Leader Allied Atheist Alliance)

      Police Officer: Uh-uh. No one goes upstairs.
      Kyle: We, uh, we have special permission.
      Stan: Don't you reconize us? We're Britney Spears' kids.
      Police Officer: You are?
      Butters: [in squirrel costume] Not me; I'm a squirrel.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
      • SJ

        From the quotes you’re providing, it appears the creators of that show don’t seem to care much for religion.

        October 3, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
  19. Sea Otter (Leader Allied Atheist Alliance)

    Cartman: I told your mom you got an F on that social studies test.
    Billy: You wouldnt do that.
    Cartman: Does a bear crap in the woods? And does the pope crap on the broken lives and dreams of 200 deaf boys?

    October 3, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
    • Troll Welcoming Committee

      Welcome to the party.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
      • Sea Otter (Leader Allied Atheist Alliance)

        Thanks for calling the Food Network hotline. Billing is $9.95 for each 60 second period. To accept, say "Creme Fraiche".

        October 3, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
    • Joey

      I don't know anything about the deaf kids, but the Pope certainly makes the world safe for pedophiles.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
      • Sea Otter (Leader Allied Atheist Alliance)

        🙂

        Billy: Do you want to do it?
        Cartman: Do i want to do it? Does the pope help pedophiles get away with their crimes?
        Billy: Excellent.

        Cartman: Is that something I'd want to do? Is the Pope Catholic, and making the world safe for pedophiles?

        October 3, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
        • Joey

          Cartman's Therapist: On a scale of 1 to 10 how old is too old to go to Penn State?

          October 3, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
  20. Live4Him

    @Doris : Who exactly are the 500? What are their names? Did they write anything? Who actually wrote about them where it was not just a hearsay account?

    Translation: Since these 500 didn't leave a written account then the Gospels are not reliable. And since they are not reliable, Jesus never existed.

    Rebuttal: This is similar to saying that since the thousands who witnessed the collapse of the Twin Towers never left a written account, the news articles about their collapse are unreliable. And since they are not reliable, the towers never existed.

    October 3, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
    • Joey

      Well that is a butt load of stupid.

      October 3, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
      • Sea Otter (Leader Allied Atheist Alliance)

        I concur.

        October 3, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Do you have camcorder video of Jesus?

      October 3, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
      • Joey

        When the moron can produce video evidence of Jesus rising from the dead I will believe it as much as I believe that 9/11 happened.

        October 3, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @ Live4Him.
      You have repeatedly said that the only way to know that the theory of evolution is valid is to directly observe it yourself.
      You said the same thing about snowfall in antarctic regions and various other scientific facts.

      You require minimal proof for anything Biblical and a ridiculous standard for anything else.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
      • SJ

        Doc Vestibule, you’re a scientist aren’t you? What do you feel is the best evidence for evolution?

        October 3, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
        • Doc Vestibule

          The 5 laws of the Theory of Evolution have proven their validity thousands of times by millions of people.
          The principles are practically applied on a daily basis in fields like medicine, geology, mathematics, molecular biology, robotics, chemistry, astrophysics, agriculture, epidemiology, aerospace engineering, architecture, data mining, drug discovery and design, electrical engineering, finance, geophysics, materials engineering, military strategy, pattern recognition, robotics, scheduling, systems engineering etc.

          Tangible proof can be found by studying vestigial features, ebryonic development, biogeography, DNA sequencing, pseudogenes, endogenous retroviruses.
          We have directly observed the process of natural selection in E-Coli bacteria, lactose intolerance in humans, the peppered moth's colour change in reaction to industrial pollution, radiotrophic fungi at Chernobyl...
          We have directly observed speciation in Blackcap birds, fruit flies, mosquitos, mice, Shortfin molly fish and other specimens.

          Evidence for the Genesis Creation account comes from The Bible and... nothing else, I'm afraid.

          October 4, 2013 at 8:11 am |
    • Extra! Extra!

      Live4Him,

      Sorry, but where are the corresponding confirmatory news articles from that era regarding those most momentous, headline-worthy current events?

      October 3, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
      • Typical Christian

        It's called the Bible, hello.

        October 3, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • My Dog is a jealous Dog

      No, that analogy fails – it is more like 40 years from now claiming that dragons flew into the buildings without any footage, despite that fact that you could find out what color tie Trump was wearing on that day from all of the other collected "news" of the day.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
      • Doc Vestibule

        Obviously "dragon" is a metaphor.
        In the original New York dialect, the term used was "fakkinplane" which referred to any genus of large, winged creatures.

        October 3, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
        • My Dog is a jealous Dog

          Nice one ... had a NY'er buddy in college, used to call him FaakkinA Johnnie, since it was every fifth word that came out of his mouth.

          October 3, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
    • Doris

      Nuts4Him: "Translation: Since these 500 didn't leave a written account then the Gospels are not reliable. And since they are not reliable, Jesus never existed. "

      Piss-poor translation. But I am not surprised. True to form, you are the master of misrepresentation. Show me where I say Jesus never existed. In case you haven't noticed, I am a highly agnostic atheist. And in case you don't understand what that is, I can help with that. People who are highly agnostic usually strive to not claim absolutes, such as "Jesus never ... [anything]". We can certainly call out things that sound fishy – that's not the same thing. Agnostics are good at comfortably sleeping at night with many unanswered questions and don't try to assign a "best answer" to everything so that, at the end of the day, they feel they now have everything pigeon-holed one way or another.

      October 3, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • Ben

      L4h
      Silly comparison. We can still talk to those witnesses of 9/11. We also have video and physical evidence. All you have is a story about there being eyewitnesses to something. Any John Grisham lawyer novel has references to "eyewitnesses", but that doesn't make them true.

      October 3, 2013 at 7:03 pm |
      • David Zussman

        You have guilt, guilt for being guilty and then Jewish guilt. In that order

        October 3, 2013 at 7:05 pm |
        • Ben

          I've never been a Jew.

          October 4, 2013 at 8:06 am |
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