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October 9th, 2013
02:27 PM ET
Creationists taunt atheists in latest billboard warBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN)– A new video billboard in New York's Times Square has a message from creationists, "To all of our atheist friends: Thank God you're wrong." The video advertisement at 42nd Street and Eighth Avenue in Manhattan is one of several billboards going up this week in New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles, paid for by Answers in Genesis. Answers in Genesis is best known as the multimillion-dollar Christian ministry behind the Creation Museum outside Cincinnati. The museum presents the case for Young Earth creationism, following what it says is a literal interpretation of the book of Genesis, which says the Earth was created by God in six days less than 10,000 years ago. Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, said the idea for the advertisements came from an atheist billboard in Times Square at Christmas. During the holidays, the American Atheists put up a billboard with images of Santa Claus and Jesus that read: "Keep the Merry, dump the myth." “The Bible says to contend for the faith,” Ham said. “We thought we should come up with something that would make a statement in the culture, a bold statement, and direct them to our website. "We're not against them personally. We're not trying to attack them personally, but we do believe they're wrong," he said. "From an atheist's perspective, they believe when they die, they cease to exist. And we say 'no, you're not going to cease to exist; you're going to spend eternity with God or without God. And if you're an atheist, you're going to be spending it without God.' " Dave Silverman, president of the American Atheists, said he felt sad for creationists when he saw the billboards. "They refuse to look at the real world. They refuse to look at the evidence we have, and they offer none," Silverman said. "They might as well be saying, 'Thank Zeus you're wrong' or 'Thank Thor you're wrong.' " Silverman said he welcomed another competitor to marketplace, noting that after atheists bought a billboard two years ago in Times Square that read "You KNOW it's a myth," the Catholic League purchased competing space at the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel for a sign that read "You KNOW it's true." "I would suggest, if they're actually trying to attract atheists, they should talk about proof and reason to believe in their god, not just some pithy play on words," Silverman said. Ham says part of the goal of the campaign is to draw people to the website for Answers in Genesis, where he offers a lengthy post on his beliefs for the proof of God. Ham insists that this campaign is in keeping with their overall mission. "We're a biblical authority ministry. We're really on about the Bible and the Gospel. Now, we do have a specialty in the area of the creation account and Genesis because that's where we say God's word has come under attack." Ham said Answers in Genesis made the decision to split its marketing budget for the ministry between a regional campaign for the museum and this billboard campaign, rather than a national campaign. IRS filings for the ministry in recent years have shown a yearly operating budget of more than $25 million. Ham said the marketing budget is about 2% of that, about $500,000 a year. Though they are waiting for all the bills to come due for this campaign, he said he expected it to cost between $150,000 and $200,000. Silverman noted that his billboards were not video and cost approximately $25,000 last year. He said another campaign was in the works for this year. "They're throwing down the gauntlet, and we're picking it up," Silverman said, adding that his group would "slap them in the face" with it. Ham said that despite criticism from other Christians for being negative and the usual criticisms from secularists he received on his social media accounts, the advertisements have been a success. "We wanted people talking about them, and we wanted discussion about this. We wanted people thinking about God," Ham said. The Creation Museum and the theory of Young Earth creationism are widely reviled by the broader science community. In a YouTube video posted last year titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children," Bill Nye the Science Guy slammed creationism, imploring parents not to teach it to their children. "We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future," he said. "We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems." The museum responded with its own video. For the past 30 years, Gallup Inc. has been tracking American opinions about creationism. In June 2012, Gallup's latest findings showed that 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. For as long as Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years. The Creation Museum said it recently welcomed its 2 millionth visitor since its opening in 2007. soundoff (8,748 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 Next »
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Taunt?????????????????
That´s a TAUNT????????
The joke is that if their god is real and so strong and in charge of everything why do dumb little humans have to fight his battles for him......is it that he doesn´t want to get his little white hands dirty?
If you are serious about this subject then you need to see this video. This is the best video I have seen in a long while.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2xyrel-2vI
I don't know anyone who would sit for 2 hours on a post from a blog.
I guess...if one is just an opinionated bigot I suppose.... or unless they have a good grasp on the subject area already. I will always check things out even IF I know I might not like the content. I always think I might learn something. I am in my late 60's now and consider myself a life long learner. Creationists do not seem to be that unless it's inside their own little worldview.
This video is a deal breaker. If you don't come out of this in support of the truth that is hands down apparent then it's YOU who has a serious problem.
Whew, they really stretched that one to fill the time. I don't doubt evolution, but I don't want the federales in every local district mandating what is discussed.
Both sides seem overbearing, perhaps it could at least be brought up as a societal controversy, even show this video as an example of the debate.
Sadly, the kids being taught probably aren't paying attention to either side these days, which is where our efforts would be better spent.
Agreed. The kids likely aren't paying much attention. They really have no choice that is why it is important to teach them evidence. As for morality that could be taught as a Peace Education/Virtues curriculum. It would likely do a much better job than christianity or any other religion. People should keep their religion in the home and if they want to practice it that's fine.
I watched this a couple of years ago, I think on Public TV. It’s pretty good stuff. Thanks for bringing it up.
One of the characteristics of a "primate" society whom were the ancestors of himans if you notice they have a "dominant male that usually runs the group. I am not surprised to note that from early early times there is a male god who is in charge of everything. This is one of the hold-outs of those earlier societies that is masked as a modern ideology. It has it'a roots in dominant primate and submissive society.
spelling error. I meant "humans".
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Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!
• As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.
• As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e. the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.
• There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.
• There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.
• There was no Moroni (or magic underwear) i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.
• Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.
• Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.
• A constant cycle of reincarnation until enlightenment is reached and belief that various beings (angels?, tinker bells? etc.) exist that we, as mortals, cannot comprehend makes for a no on Sikhism.
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Lame
What is lame about what he said? If YOU can provide REAL evidence that even ONE of those biblical characters existed then we will call him lame ok? Until you do your "opinion" is lame and that's the only thing that IS lame.
Because if you accept they're real then it scares you? It's a cop out to claim they don't exist because I don't have a birth certificate.
So, yes, it is in fact lame and so is your hissy fit.
Actually no. It doesn't scare me...why would it? If someone told me that if 'fairy tales" were real would that scare me?Nawwwww......a hissy fit....lmao....no explanation needed with your call on that one. It's no cop out to claim they are not real because it's on you to prove they are...which you cannot do.
And it looks like many agree with it all having no basis in reality either...how could it? You simply do not know HOW to think. Watch this and you might learn something...or not...lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2xyrel-2vI
Um, what??? Nevermind
that.s what I thought...
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And heren is what is really funny – GENESIS 9:18-19- Ham was the father of who ?
And a Ham owns the creation museum ?
Sal is Ham the owns the creation museum tied your bloodline then ?
Actually, Jesus said that's your bloodline!! 😀 😀
Sal is the internet a gift from god – NO -and they want to control life ? The pope just proved there is NO god with that stat-ement.
In comments that will likely rile the more conservative wing of the church, Francis suggested that in engaging in that dialogue, Catholics shouldn't be arrogant in insisting that they alone possess the truth.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-internet-is-a-gift-from-god/
Looks like the Nye's and Ham debate is over before it began ?
The DECEPTION of creationists and who Sal – Ken Ham ?
Harvard Medical School. "Neanderthals' genetic legacy: Humans inherited variants affecting disease risk, infertility, skin and hair characteristics." ScienceDaily. 29 January 2014.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140129134956.htm
Hey Sal you know ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weKbmaMwrgQ
Is CNN sending me Spam mail? That's one more piece of evidence of the Total stupidity of atheism!! 😉
The hamster Ham and they are not the truth !
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Creation Ministries International began life as the Creation Science Foundation, in 1979, when Ham quit his job as a public school science teacher to begin speaking on creationism. In 1986 Ham left Australia to teach at the Insti-tute for Creation Research; by 1987 his absence was causing leadership problems, and in February he handed control over to Andrew Snelling. In 1993, after 7 years in the US, Ham decided to start, with the assistance of CSF, the Creation Science Ministry, which later became AiG-US. By 1995 the CSF had become the Australian arm of AiG. They initially shared board members, but AiG-Australia suffered a hilariously acrimonious schism from its now much larger partner in 2005[1] culminating in accusations of witchcraft and hurt feelings all round.[2] They changed their name to Creation Ministries International as a result.
Much like AiG, CMI is an ardent promoter of young Earth creationist claptrap. However, CMI attempts to take a rather more "scholarly" tone than does AiG, if that term can possibly be applied to any creationist organization; it uses the presuppositionalist style of argument, which along with the scholarly veneer may help to explain why CMI doesn't have its own ignorance museum, complete with saddled Triceratops.
On the other hand, CMI publishes Alien Intrusion, UFOs and the Evolution Connection,[3] the author of which was featured on Coast to Coast AM. The description of the interviews says that "aliens are actually fallen angels who are not extraterrestrial in nature, but rather interdimensional. ... He noted that some people had been able to stop alien abductions from taking place ... by invoking the name of Christ. He suggested that this lends credence to the idea that the aliens are demonic in nature, and thus susceptible to invocations that run counter to them."[4]
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Creation_Ministries_International
And a list of his cronies ?
CMI list of scientists alive today who accept the biblical account of creation
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/CMI_list_of_scientists_alive_today_who_accept_the_biblical_account_of_creation
GOD created everything through Cosmic and Biologic Evolutionary Creation.
http://www.holy-19-harvest.com
UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES
Not at your place !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf2m35N3DJU
As the skeleton comes out of the closet ?
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All that can be said about this is that if you do not believe, if you have never seen evidence of God, if God has never moved in your life then that is ok but do no tell other people what to believe or tell them they are idiots for having a belief or say something like God could not possibly do that because "he doesn't exist". Maybe God doesn't exist to you, in your world or your mind and maybe the proof that does exist is not enough for you and that is ok but for those of us who believe that does not make us illogical idiots that run around ignoring science. Most of us know that science explains the how, when, where, what and why of different creations in the world but the only difference is that for us God is the who. You don't have to like it, appreciate or understand it that is why it is someone else's beliefs they are not always for you to understand. I wish both sides had better representatives in larger numbers because insulting each other proves nothing and does nothing but create negative energy and the world has enough of that without us bickering.
We are not bickering with you. Your claim without evidence is wrong...end of story.You dont KNOW god exists because faith is not KNOWING supported by evidences which PROVES you do not know. We get it that you think you can know without evidence. We simply say when you provide the evidence then you will know. This makes us much more honest than you. As it is...reading the bible is not proof enough that god exists....not by what is written.....and if it is true then you can have your god.....I couldn't work for a guy like that as most atheists agree. As I said before we don't know but that doesn't default to god automatically for us as it does for you.....ID is a seriously bad and flawed model that god is accredited with "creating". For a rational person who looks honestly at BOTH sides of this arguement Evolution wins hands down.
Isnt the bible clear that the kingdom of god is within you?......soooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....
Acutally that is a quote from the Book of Thomas (written words of Christ) but I believe it is one of the truest statements spoken.
so where is the evidence ? I know thousands of quotes from books so what? It's a wonderful philosophy and sounds pretty but that about it...if the kingdom of god means it's literally inside you.....that must be problematic......lol...because the kinigdom of god is NOT of this world.......wish they would make up their minds...
Salero..in case you missed the post this is for you.
Salero.....quit being a bonehead. Your comment about what you understand as "theory" is differnt from science's fact based "theory" understanding. You are using the common definition...which is right for a common lay person with limited cognitive abilities such as yourself. The next level of understanding will come to you when you learn to be able to string together more than the one same sentence for every question posed to you. Eventually we hope you will be able to stop the meds you are taking along with it's supplemental equivalent called religion and your own thinking process might actually kick in. In the meantime...we will put up with your one sentence limit because we know the difficulty you must be going through...peace.
A new video billboard in New York's Times Square has a message from creationists, "To all of our atheist friends: Thank God you're wrong."..............
They refuse to look at the real world. They refuse to look at the evidence we have, and they offer none," Silverman said. "They might as well be saying, 'Thank Zeus you're wrong' or 'Thank Thor you're wrong.'........
Therein lies the problem.....absolutely NO ONE in the history of this planet has EVER seen a god of any kind anywhere.... the saying ABA DABA says everything about religions and gods...
A new video billboard in New York's Times Square has a message from creationists, "To all of our atheist friends: Thank God you're wrong."..............
They refuse to look at the real world. They refuse to look at the evidence we have, and they offer none," Silverman said. "They might as well be saying, 'Thank Zeus you're wrong' or 'Thank Thor you're wrong.'........
Therein lies the problem.....absolutely NO ONE in the history of this planet has EVER seen a god of any kind anywhere.... the saying PIE IN THE SKY says everything about religions and gods....when is the last time you saw a PIE IN THE SKY?
http://www.tunedbody.com/scientists-finally-show-thoughts-can-cause-specific-molecular-changes-genes/#
This has of course and impact on conciousness.
Here is another about the love of christianity amd its victims throughout the ages..
http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
Count all the people God wants to murder
If you look in the Bible, there are an amazing number of people that God wants his followers to murder. For example, in Exodus 35:2 God lays down this commandment:
For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
Think about that how many people work on the Sabbath - all the employees of Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, Home Depot, Linnens & things, grocery stores, convenience stores, power plants, airlines, hospitals, emergency services and on and on and on. Don't rabbis, priests and preachers work on the Sabbath? God wants all of them dead.
Gee what a lovely person...we should have more like him....don't you think?
For the love of God, at least have a clue what you are condemning pea brained carnivorous dinosaur.
Try reading the Good books with a little comprehension. It one thing to not believe, it's another to condemn something you've invented.
vmoore,
Speaking of pea-brained, you completely FAILED to disprove anything he said. You just made a complete fool of yourself since he was correct.
http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
The bible make more sense with a gallon of whiskey. You know that's true.
The Bible does indeed say that. God is quite the butcher. You may not LIKE the fact that we point it out, but it's there. No doubt you will complain about us "taking it out of context", but this is really lame and usually just an excuse, but the fact is–you need to confront your Bible as it really is, not as you want it to be.
You mean the Bible where God says 'thou shalt not kill' and 'love thy neighbor as thyself'?
Yeah He seems pretty unreasonable. Do you dispute that a person living by the Ten Commandments would be a pretty nice, peaceful individual.
vmoore,
The Ten Commandments have VERY LITTLE to do with our laws. FORTUNATELY, the Bible is not the basis for all of our laws.
Creationists taunt atheists in latest billboard war.....
In a sense the Creationist can win this argument although they lose in life...because ALL OF THEIR ANSWERS ARE NOT ONLY ARBITRARY but also AMBIGUOUS.