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 Kentucky Senator Rand Paul says the Obama administration has not countered Muslim extremists.
October 11th, 2013
02:33 PM ET
Rand Paul: Obama won't stop war on ChristianityWashington (CNN) – Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky devoted his speech to the socially conservative Values Voter Summit to “a war on Christianity” that is being waged by “fanatics of Islam.” Much of Paul’s speech was a list of violence against Christians across the Muslim world, highlighting what he said was “not a little problem” and something that is “not going away quickly.” “Across the globe, Christians are under attack almost as if we lived in the Middle Ages or we lived under early pagan Roman rule,” Paul said. “This administration does nothing to stop it and it can be argued that it is giving aid and comfort to those who tolerate these crimes.” FULL STORY
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Caption for photo should read "Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky here describes what he called “a war on New Math” that is being waged by “fanatics of Old Math" where these fanatics won't admit that two plus two could equal three..."
Why is someone with Libertarian roots using religion as a political tool?
Barry Goldwater must be spinning in his grave.
Libertarian thought may have advanced since you thought you learned about it:
Libertarianism is a synthesis between morality, philosophy, and politics. It is a critical lens of legitimacy through which the enlightened libertarian can view the world, and gives the libertarian the ability to take a stand on what he feels is right and wrong. This lens is defined by the single universal conception known as the non-aggression axiom.
"Jerry Falwell deserves to be kicked in the _ss"–Barry Goldwater
You were saying, Bill?...
"On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.
I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism.""
Barry Goldwater, United States Senate, 16 September 1981.
The easy, safe and peaceful solution: (only for the new visitors to this blog)-
Putting thumbs down on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!
• As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.
• As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.
• There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.
• There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion (and Rand Paul's words have no meaning)
• There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.
• Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.
• Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.
• A constant cycle of reincarnation until enlightenment is reached and belief that various beings (angels?, tinker bells? etc) exist that we, as mortals, cannot comprehend makes for a no on Sikhism.
Added details available upon written request.
The Repubilcans are taking a hit for the shutdown, so naturally it's time to play the religion card, What's better than making a claim that Obama doesn't care about Christians?
White, Christian, middle class, married, land-owning males have never got a fair shake in America.
They weren't even allowed to vote until 1776!
It never ceases to amaze me how you xtians keep pulling out the victim card all time.
Must be something tied up with being a republican, always using the boogie man out to get you to keep the masses in line.
Can't wait to hear all about the dreaded war on Christmas, which will start in about a month or so.
Hey believers, we don't give two sheets about you or you religion.
Keep it to yourselves and you won't ever hear from us again about it.
We'll forward your sentiments to these two women.
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/video-shows-angry-mob-stripping-christian-women
Not as civilized sadly. We need to set the example, eventually it will catch on and this kind of crap will cease.
The problem with your statement are the facts... The fact is, people in other countries DO get slaughtered just because they are Christians. And in our country, on colleges, because of the laws of free speach, I can speak to people about anything, but the minute I bring up Christianity, the police have to come by my side and protect my right to free speach because if they were not there, I would be beaten up. I've seen the violence first hand, so don't tell me it isn't there.
What are you talking about? Where did this occur? Is the police report online?
One of many links:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/man-arrested-outside-calif-dmv-for-reading-his-bible-out-loud
Bill Deacon,
Your link made a complete joke of your comments. The arrest was BECAUSE they didn't have a legal permit on state property where they were conducting other than the intended business.
Why is reading comprehension such a problem for all the poor believers who always claim they are victims, even while denying others equal rights or calling doctors performing legal operations as "murderers"?
Your link was an embarassment for your claims.
Billy's citing Teh Blahz as a source. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!...
I call BS.
You guys have got to be kidding denying the Christian slaughter in the middle east. CNN has covered it extensively.
People get persecuted because they are Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and even atheists all over the world all the time.
Christianity is NOT the religion of the United States. It is not the responsibility of the United States to police religious intolerance everywhere in the world.
Let's also remember that the reason that Christian missionaries (in particular) are persecuted in many places is because their proselytism is unwelcome. (This is prevalent in India.) Having said that, persecution of Christians is usually a component of what is essentially civil war for the control of the country. Christians in Northern Nigeria and in Egypt (Copts) are part of that too. Of course if we remember our history it is the Copts who collaborated with the invading Muslims to overthrow the ruling Greek Orthodox during the siege of Alexandria in 641.
What is Rand Paul's stance on mosque burning (or mosque building permit prevention) in is home state of Kentucky or neighboring states like Tennessee or Missouri?
I am sure he is all for that.
Funny how the religious get all bent out of shape when it is them being singled out, but have no issue with doing it to someone else of a different myth.
He's not even very religious – no such accolyte of Ayn Rand could be.
He's even named after her.
No need to group all Christians into one group. Obama's a Christian himself, and one of the first speeches I heard from him, the first thing I heard from him more than a minute long, was about his religion. Direct your anger to those who deserve it. Rand Paul doesn't speak for an entire religion.
I whole-heartedly agree with Paul.
Why is it that those who preach the message of "tolerance" so loudly are the first ones to be intolerant of Christianity?
"Light has come into this world, but men loved darkness because their deeds were evil..."
I disagree with Paul, and you, Larry of Aruba.
Just like your sky fairy, the war on xtians is just another make believe concept in your head.
hey nik! look what I just made up:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A2KJ3CSIVFhSVTgAugrQtDMD/SIG=13u6m7ccc/EXP=1381549320/**http%3a//www.christiantoday.com/article/india.violence.against.christians.on.the.rise.in.karnataka/34265.htm
I've seen the violence first hand. Do not tell me that it doesn't exist. Christians who go to public parks in order to present the gospel – when they first begin and people aren't sure what they're going to say, they are allowed to speak with no problems, but the minute they begin to speak about sin, righteousness, and repentance, I have seen people physically abused, verbally abused, and sent to the hospital.
Again, don't tell me that violence against Christians doesn't exist.
so what?
you saw some people who were xtian getting beat up.
people get beat up all the time for various things, the vast majority religion is not one of them.
Obama has done nothing against xtians. In fact, he wanted to go into Syria with troops but the republicans, like Paul, were against it.
then he doesn't to in, and those same people now claim he is not protecting xtians by not going in to help them.
But go ahead, play the victim card. Whoa is you that the whole world is just so against you and your silly religion.
my brother god attacked for having an arab (albeit christian) last name. does it mean he was attacked because he was a christian?
Citation from a legitimate source or you're a liar.
Agree!
You've got to be kidding me. I used to have some respect for this guy.
I take his point that some believe it people are being killed in large numbers that action should be taken. However, why would the sole fact that they're christian give us cause as a nation to act?
Because in current areas of conflict these Christians are REFUGEES... They are being slaughtered for the one reason that they are Christians. If this were a tribe of people who had nothing else in common but the color of their skin and they were being slaughtered, I believe America would do something. But no... Not to Christians...
You think the only reason no action is being taken is because they're Christian?
That's not at all what I'm saying.
Paul seems to think that the sole fact that these people are Christian means we should jump in the conflict head first. While I can appreciate the sentiment of trying to save people from victimization, what makes this group of people different from countless other demographics that are being murdered in large numbers because of one defining characteristic?
Should we save the Christians but ignore the Tutsi and Hutu debacle?
If there was a way to save everyone from persecution I'd be all for it, but that's unfortunately outside the realm of possibility
Wrong thread
Don't you mean "how much oil do they control?"
You could probably make a case out of that.
Bingo, Bill.
"Humanitarian aid" from the US and its internatial arms (World Bank, IMF et al.) only provide relief to countries that are willing to privatize their national resources – most especially oil.
Tony, I'm not making the case. You are. You seem to think there is no reason to prevent violence against a marginalized group of people unless there is a compelling economic interest. Are you saying that if there were oil it would be justifiable for us to intervene but since there isn't and they are only Christians they should be fair game?
That's not at all what I'm saying.
Paul seems to think that the sole fact that these people are Christian means we should jump in the conflict head first. While I can appreciate the sentiment of trying to save people from victimization, what makes this group of people different from countless other demographics that are being murdered in large numbers because of one defining characteristic?
Should we save the Christians but ignore the Tutsi and Hutu debacle?
If there was a way to save everyone from persecution I'd be all for it, but that's unfortunately outside the realm of possibility
Rand Paul DOES live in the middle ages.
As do most republicans and people who still cling onto fairy tales to get them thru life.
Rand must have slept through history class.
This is NO war on Christianity. Get over yourselves fools.
The war on common sense in this country, however, rages on.
This seems to contradiict your belief:
http://www.emannabih.com/muslim-brotherhood-massacres-against-christians-in-egypt
How about a REAL source for once instead of right-wing blogs, Billy?...
“Across the globe, Christians are under attack almost as if we lived in the Middle Ages or we lived under early pagan Roman rule,”
Yep. it's almost like you lived in Salem when Christians were torturing and killing nonbelievers.
and read up on the Spanish Inquisition
Dyslexic doG,
Yes. I just wanted something closer to contemporary and at home.
How many people were killed in the Spanish Inquisition? Over what time frame. Did any church officials oppose it?
Welcome to religion. Hopefully someday one of these two groups will join the rest of us in the 21st century.
it's times like these when you know prayer is useless ...
it's times like these when you wonder why a god won't protect his own ...
that curly hair is wound too tight ...
And there goes any hope that Rand Paul might some day be President. Keep barking, little dog.
LMAO! – Oh, I know. I was hoping he would hold out just a bit longer for fun and giggles, but with this, he's just relegated himself to eternal Trumpism.
“This administration does nothing to stop it and it can be argued that it is giving aid and comfort to those who tolerate these crimes.” Say it Mr. Paul, you want to accuse your President of treason. I'm not sure Rand Paul is getting enough oxygen.
Oh man, I'm grabbing my popcorn! The comments on this one should be non-stop funny. This article just screams "facepalm".
While I find it deplorable that anyone anywhere is targeted simply because of what they believe, it is NOT our job, nor our government's job, not stop every such action around the world, regardless of which religion is being targetted.
pray to your god. won't he stop the attacks on his followers?
what a joke!
He can stop you if you don't change and continue to mock him.
no, your god cannot do that, because your god is non existent