home
RSS
Where was God in the Philippines?
A flood survivor is surrounded by debris on the Philippine island of Leyte.
November 11th, 2013
11:16 AM ET

Where was God in the Philippines?

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-editor

[twitter-follow screen_name='BurkeCNN']

(CNN) - The disasters are always different and often devastating. But the questions they raise are hauntingly familiar.

In the days since Super Typhoon Haiyan swept through the Philippines on Thursday, survivors are frantically searching for lost family members and international aid groups are springing into action.

Officials say the death toll may rise to 10,000 in the heavily Catholic country. Meanwhile, many people are asking: How should we make sense of such senseless death and destruction? Was God in the whirlwind itself, as the Bible hints, or present only in the aftermath, as people mobilize to provide food, water and shelter?

These questions may not be new, but we keep asking them, perhaps because the answers remain so elusive.

For many Americans, a paradox sits at the heart of their thinking about natural disasters. According to a survey taken after 2011's earthquake and tsunami in Japan, most Americans (56%) believe that God is control of everything.

But more Americans blame hurricanes, earthquakes and other storms on global warming (58%) than on an angry and punishing deity (38%), according to a 2011 poll by the Public Religion Research Institute.

“These kind of questions about God being in control and there simultaneously being suffering are the kind of things that keep seminarians up at night," institute CEO Robert P. Jones said in 2011.

"They’re thorny theological issues."

READ: Typhoon Haiyan: Survivors in Philippines face grim struggle as death toll rises

The Bible's Psalm 107 says that “For (God) commands, and raises the stormy wind, which lifts up the waves thereof. ... He turns rivers into a wilderness, and the water springs into dry ground."

But, as the poll shows, most Americans have moved past the idea that God causes natural disasters, wrote Stephen Prothero, a frequent CNN contributor, in a 2011 column.

"When it comes to earthquakes and hurricanes, our authorities are geologists and meteorologists," Prothero said as he rode out Hurricane Irene on Cape Cod in Massachusetts. "Most of us interpret these events not through the rumblings of the biblical prophet Jeremiah or the poetry of the Book of Revelation but through the scientific truths of air pressure and tectonic plates."

For atheists, storms like Haiyan are proof that God doesn't exist, author and activist Sam Harris said.

"Either God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn’t care to, or he doesn’t exist. God is either impotent, evil or imaginary," Harris said after Japan's tsunami. "Take your pick, and choose wisely."

God may or may not be in withering storms, but many religious leaders say they sense a divine presence in the aftermath, as people across the world mobilize to lend a hand.

Rabbi Harold Kushner is one of the most famous names in the realm of theodicy, a branch of theology that tries to explain the unexplainable: why a good God would allow bad things to happen.

After Japan's tsunami, Kushner called nature "an equal-opportunity destroyer," making no distinctions between sinners and saints.

But Kushner, author of the bestselling book "When Bad Things Happen to Good People," said he sees God's hand in the resilience of people whose lives have been destroyed and in the "goodness and generosity" of strangers who donate and pray for the survivors.

READ: How to help victims of Typhoon Haiyan 

That still leaves a tricky question, though: Why do humans suffer, sometimes terribly, in the first place?

There's no good answer, says the Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit priest and best-selling author.

"Each person has to come to grips with that," Martin said. "It’s not as if some magic answer can be found. But the idea of God suffering along with us can be very helpful."

Muslims, on the other hand, see stormy trials as tests from God, said Sayyid Syeed, national director of the Islamic Society of North America’s Office of Interfaith and Community Alliances.

"Muslims believe that God tests those he loves, and these tragedies also serve as a reminder to the rest of us to remain grateful to God for all our blessings and cognizant that we must support those in need," Syeed said.

Vietnamese Buddhist master Thich Nhat Hanh, whose native country remains in Haiyan's path, said such storms remind us that our lives are impermanent and the importance of treasuring each moment.

"This is the best that we can do for those who have died: We can live in such a way that they can feel they are continuing to live in us, more mindfully, more profoundly, more beautifully, tasting every minute of life available to us, for them," Hanh said.

Stephen Prothero, Jessica Ravitz and Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Asia • Atheism • Belief • Bible • Buddhism • Christianity • Death • Ethics • Faith • God • Islam • Judaism • natural disasters • Philippines • Prayer

soundoff (3,827 Responses)
  1. AE

    "Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me."

    November 11, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • Dyslexic doG

      a bronze age writing assignment. not bad, but no better than anything in Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings or any of a countless other books written by man for profit.

      get out of your stories!

      November 11, 2013 at 12:02 pm |
      • AE

        "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

        November 11, 2013 at 12:22 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          Your god cannot or will not protect christians from disaster.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm |
        • AE

          Exactly. We may have to suffer in this world. The New Testament is very clear about that. Expect disaster, but know God is with us.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:56 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          I wish there were an afterlife just to see your disappointment.

          November 11, 2013 at 1:54 pm |
        • Seraphzero

          Free will: is the ability to think for oneself and perform actions by emotional impulse or logic. I think we can all agree on that. I tried to discredit the bible with science ,physics,logic, historical archives. I was trying to take down the concept of God. I became humble and happy, that i can learn and make the world a better place. I don't care what you believe in nor what actions you try to take. We are not alone and humanity will experience the unknown. As for the idiots that are evil and stupid to disrespect the concept of life ,prepare for your beliefs and unrestricted animal impulses to bring you a permanent piercing pain and a false hope. Like sailors fighting for a drink from the sea with
          uncontrollable thirst. I fight for the children of the world, they are worth fighting for . Welcome to reality!

          November 11, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
        • Me

          Not particularly religious, but this is one of my favorites.

          November 12, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
      • aguzman33

        Jesus Christ was real, and so was his sacrifice.

        November 12, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
      • Greg

        Actually, the Bible has sold considerably more copies than any of the other books you mention.

        It does so year after year, every year, since before the time of the printing press. It has been translated into almost every language, and is often the first book published in many languages. Every day, in almost every language, the #1 best seller is the Bible.

        Now, you may call it a story. It is, but so much more. It is also an historical accounting of events, parables, poems, songs, and letters written by many people over a long period of time – making it impossible for the authors to have some way collaborated about some purpose for the Bible.

        You may discredit the Bible, the history surrounding it, and the growth of the Christianity that factually did occur. You may choose the intellectually lazy path of so many atheists that wouldn't dare want to learn what is in the Bible. If they did, they would need to face the one issue that keeps people from the Bible:

        Moral accountability.

        Why be bothered with moral accountability, right?

        November 12, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
    • science is what gives us hope

      Scientific explanations (truth/facts) replace religious dogma (made-up explanations that the public eagerly accepted when there were no other explanations). This is a good thing because soon there will be no more Pat Robertsons around taking money from the innocent. His fundamentalist dogma cannot stand up to the light. If you don't know, Pat was caught red-handed using church donations, intended to feed starving Africans, to supply his diamond-mining operations in Africa. That is what I mean by fraud. This guy is a shameless sociopath.

      November 11, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
      • lhov

        Science and God are one– research might help study and learn!

        November 12, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
      • aguzman33

        Your example of a corrupt human being is irrelevant. Jesus Christ was real, so were his teachings and so was his sacrifice.

        November 12, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
        • Yeager

          What sacrifice?

          November 12, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • Realist

      ******************************

      Where was GOD ???? ha ha ha ha ha!

      ******************************

      ... http://www.GODisIMARINARY.com ...

      ... and thank goodness because he emanates from the ...

      ... http://www.EVILbibe.com ...

      ******************************

      November 11, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
    • im4given

      Amen

      November 12, 2013 at 3:16 pm |
  2. Dyslexic doG

    do you all get the point??? There is either no god, or the one that exists is a sadistic, narcissistic, evil freak of a creature. Either way, what the HECK are you worshipping?

    November 11, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • Observer

      Not u, don't u get it?

      November 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
      • Observer

        fake Observer,

        Prayer didn't do a thing for all the Christians in the Philippines who died praying. Ooops.

        November 11, 2013 at 12:02 pm |
    • dave

      Or God is concerned with things eternal, not things worldly.

      November 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
      • Dyslexic doG

        more hokey, greeting card sayings.
        like safety blankets for Christians.
        they can spit them out on demand.
        and somehow think that they proved a point.

        November 11, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
        • OMGReally

          lol, really. That is the basic "christian" answer. Its god's will or trust in god, really. I do believe in god but i don't believe God intervenes at all. No miracles, no disasters according to his will. Its just us and the Klingons...

          November 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
      • In Santa we trust

        Then why would it be concerned with earthly behavior?

        November 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
        • lhov

          Santa is actually based on a real man named St. Nicholas, he was a Saint who gave up his money and wealth to help the poor, and gave to them in secret–and that is where Santa Claus was born.

          November 12, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
      • Bible Clown©

        What use is a god that never manifests?

        November 11, 2013 at 12:22 pm |
    • AE

      What are you worshiping?

      November 11, 2013 at 12:02 pm |
      • Fan2C

        No need to "worship" anything nor anyone.

        November 11, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
        • AE

          What is the most important thing to you? What would you give up your life for? What do you spend most of your money, time and thoughts on?

          November 11, 2013 at 12:19 pm |
        • Madame Laveau

          I worship voodoo dolls. There is every bit as much evidence that their power is real as there is for your "God".

          November 11, 2013 at 12:39 pm |
        • AE

          Be honest.

          November 11, 2013 at 1:08 pm |
        • Fan2C

          AE,

          The fact that some things and people are important to us, or loved or highly esteemed (or even vital, such as oxygen, water, etc.) does not mean that they are "worshipped"... and you know it.

          November 11, 2013 at 1:29 pm |
      • In Santa we trust

        The point of the comment was to question what an omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient god was doing when disaster hit a large christian population – god does not exist, or it does exist and is either powerless or heartless. Whichever it is – why worship it?

        November 11, 2013 at 12:25 pm |
      • Bible Clown©

        "What is the most important thing to you? What would you give up your life for? What do you spend most of your money, time and thoughts on?" My precious wife and our son. But for most people the answer would be 'alcohol.'

        November 11, 2013 at 12:33 pm |
      • Greg

        Why does one need to worship anything? Just feel lucky to be alive, accept life for what it is and live it.

        November 12, 2013 at 12:37 pm |
    • Doris

      I tend to agree, but I try not to limit the possibilities. Remember what the many Deists believed- a creator god that was like the watchmaker – set things in motion and the let it go. (What if such a force, after kick-starting this universe, has only that job to do – then move on to another creation project never to return.)

      November 11, 2013 at 12:05 pm |
    • Belieiver

      God is the almighty ! The Alpha (beginning) and Omega (end). He does control all. As a belieiver I can tell you that God does things some times as a test a faith. God has the power to destroy but has has the Greater power to heal. In my own life I have had more struggles than most. And through faith in Jesus Christ I have overcome all of the obstacles life throws my way. Now as a Christian I dont always understand why God allows some things to happen. But I know one thing for sure through faith in Him all can be fixed. If the people put their faith in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior they will inherit more than what this world can ever offer. They will inherit Enternal Life. But understanding that God makes sacrifices for us every day. He made the ultimate sacrifice in HIs Son. Sending HIm to die for our sins. So sometimes we as people must make sacrifices in order to truly understand our calling for life.

      November 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
      • cedar rapids

        'As a belieiver I can tell you that God does things some times as a test a faith'

        why does any deity need to test someone? doesnt he already know?

        November 11, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
      • AtheistSteve

        Learn to spell believer. But in response to your comment God didn't sacrifice anything. Is Jesus dead? Not according to you people. Jesus had what might be considered a bad weekend based on the Bible story. Many humans have suffered far worse. Get off your high horse pretending like it was some grand sacrifice. But in any case the entire justification for Jesus dying on the cross is one of substitutional atonement. An immoral concept if there ever was one. Christianity has some truly sick and twisted ideas but this one takes the cake.

        November 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm |
        • Joey

          Not to mention that the sacrifice was worthless because you can't forgive the original sin of two people who never existed.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:52 pm |
      • Bible Clown©

        Well, or else God's so weak He can't even prevent a hurricane. Maybe He enjoys watching rain knock down houses and drown people?

        November 11, 2013 at 12:30 pm |
      • Bonnie

        Please read Psalm 91.

        November 11, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
      • Realist

        ******************************

        Where was GOD ???? ha ha ha ha ha!

        ******************************

        ... http://www.GODisIMARINARY.com ...

        ... and thank goodness because he emanates from the ...

        ... http://www.EVILbibe.com ...

        ******************************

        November 11, 2013 at 10:12 pm |
      • John Sharp

        What a load of crap!!

        November 12, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
      • sirhuxley

        Look here "Belieber" or whatever?

        We are going to need some evidence for these claims that you make, because right now you sound like a nutbag!

        Its a simple rule: No evidence, no belief

        November 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
    • aguzman33

      Instead of trying to analyze something much greater than yourself, ask yourself why you place so much value on this current life. Many people in the Philippines are people of faith, therefore they have not died, but have been reborn.

      November 12, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
  3. saritah

    This is an act of nature, God is or isn't where God always is. Why do we seem to blame God for all ills, natural or man made?

    November 11, 2013 at 11:57 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      " Why do we seem to blame God for all ills, natural or man made?" Why do people give it credit when things go well and thank it when things go badly?

      November 11, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
    • AtheistSteve

      According to Christians nature is Gods creation so his culpability is obvious. But God didn't do this or any any other natural disaster because God is imaginary. The world can be a dangerous place and bad things just happen. Good things just happen too. The actions or intents of a supreme being are absent from detection...good or bad.
      On a side note a comment from a survivor of the typhoon in the Philippines about the conditions since the storm was particularly idiotic. "It's worse than hell." Really? How woulf they know that? And isn't hell supposed to be the penultimate BAD situation? What could possibly be worse? The irony is they're exactly right...hell isn't worse because it doesn't exist.

      November 11, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
      • im4given

        You're funny, because if you don't believe in God, then why do you waste time talking about Him. The sad part is, when you die, you'll go straight to hell and be tortured for eternity. Then you'll realize, it's too late. I'd rather believe in faith that He exists and be rewarded, than not believing and come to find out He's real. Hell is awaiting for people like you. But it's not too late for you yet, but you never know when your time is up.

        November 12, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
        • John Sharp

          That is hilarious. I can not believe in 2013 that grown adults believe these fairy tales. How childish.

          November 12, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
  4. webman6

    This question is pointless. There is no God. There never has been a God. Of course, it isn't easy to prove or disprove the existence of a supreme deity, but I think it's pretty clear that there is no God. Or Zeus. Or Odin. Or Crom.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:57 am |
    • Conan the Barbarian

      By Crom! You will pay for this heresy with your life, evil sorcerer!

      November 11, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
  5. Fan2C

    "God" was where "he" always was/is - in the imagination of humans. It is, for some, a pleasant and comforting fantasy.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:57 am |
    • saritah

      I tend to agree, but if faith is comfort for some okay with me. Just no force feeding please.

      November 11, 2013 at 2:08 pm |
  6. Dyslexic doG

    If I was powerful enough to have created the universe, I wouldn't let a man shoot innocent little elementary school children. That’s the difference between me and your God.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:57 am |
  7. Dyslexic doG

    If I was powerful enough to have created the universe, I wouldn't allow priests to molest innocent little children.

    That’s the difference between me and your God.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • aguzman33

      But you're not powerful enough to have created the universe, therefore, how can you expect to comprehend why God does what God does?

      November 12, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
      • Greg

        Right on.

        Dyslexic would love to be a "God" that would be nice to the children, boasting his finite knowledge of creation and good heart. He doesn't know how to make a termite, and we're supposed to believe that Dyslexic is a better God?

        Dyslexic, you are NOT GOD. You are a Creation of God. Open your eyes, and see.

        November 12, 2013 at 5:37 pm |
  8. Dyslexic doG

    If I was powerful enough to have created the universe, I wouldn't let three innocent girls be held and abused for 10 years.

    That’s the difference between me and your God.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      If I was God, I'd stand by and watch terrible things happen to people who trust Me to save them. Because that's how I roll.

      November 11, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
  9. Dyslexic doG

    If I was powerful enough to have created the universe, I wouldn't allow wars.

    That’s the difference between me and your God.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:55 am |
    • dave

      You don't sound like a very loving God. Not allowing people to exercise free will is akin to slavery.

      November 11, 2013 at 12:02 pm |
      • cedar rapids

        actually he would be allowing the potential victims to exercise their 'free will' not to be killed in wars.

        November 11, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
      • Dyslexic doG

        I would have created man better so he would not even contemplate war. He would have all the free will he needed to do good and bring joy. So simple, yet it seems to be beyond your primitive bronze age god.

        November 11, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
        • Bible Clown©

          Nope, people aren't built to sit around and be peaceful. We get twitchy. If I were god, I'd give people enough stuff to do that they'd never get around to having wars.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
  10. Dyslexic doG

    If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would.

    That’s the difference between me and your God.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:54 am |
  11. Dyslexic doG

    If I was powerful enough to create the universe, I would not send typhoons to cause death, pain, misery and suffering.

    that's the difference between me and your god!

    November 11, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • Observer

      The difference between u and ur god is he's god.

      November 11, 2013 at 11:58 am |
      • Dyslexic doG

        then I'd certainly do a better job than he is doing!

        November 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
      • Observer

        fake Observer,

        Prayer didn't do a thing for all the Christians in the Philippines who died praying.

        Keep lying by using my name and I will repeat this every time. You have NO MORALS.

        November 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
        • Madame Esmeralda

          Observer,

          I think that @bethfaithany, etc. (our name-grabber) must be a Lithuanian Gypsy. They believe:

          " 'stealing has been permitted in their favour by the crucified Jesus, because the Gypsies, being present at the Crucifixion, stole one of the four nails. Hence when the hands had been nailed, there was but one nail left for the feet; and therefore God allowed them to steal, and it is not accounted a sin to them.'" –http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/roma/gft/gft021.htm

          November 11, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
  12. Jean

    There is no God but there are a lot of believers who do good things to help others. There are a lot of Atheists who do the same.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • Doris

      That's funny. I'm an agnostic atheist, and the only part of what you said that I have trouble with is this part – "There is no God".

      I guess I don't believe we know that one way or the other. I do find the Abrahamic god highly unlikely.

      November 11, 2013 at 11:59 am |
      • Susan StoHelit

        There are people who believe there is a god, and people who believe there is not – I think they both should be free to state their belief.

        November 11, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
  13. palintwit

    Sarah Palin stated on Fox News that as soon as she learns how to spell "Philippines" she will take the next flight out with her own special care package. And that will be several thousand unsold copies of her's and daughter Bristol's unsold books along with a large plattter of s'mores.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:53 am |
  14. S Blue

    I do not blame God on this. He has a plan for everyone. If he has to lift up all those who perished to his heavenly kingdom He can do that. On the other hand, WE the people of this planet earth has a lot to be blame for. We did this to ourselves in search of progress at the expense of humanity. Now that this is here, and this is not the last calamity, we have to resolve to save any human being, whether it is a natural disaster or war related events. God is in control. WE lost our own salvation and wants to be just morally right. It is time to repent. There is only one Sovereign and Living God. God have mercy on everyone.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      "He has a plan for everyone" And that plan is "Die." I'd like to change plans, please.

      November 11, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
      • Javier

        For those that are suffering in this Typhoon God is giving them strength to change and us observing to remember that Gods has the power to do anything. When things like this happen and nothing happens to us we have to thank God for having mercy on us and not allowing judgment to pass on to us. Those who perished in this storm will have a home in heaven where they will have eternal life. Those who are suffering from the Storm are now understanding that it is more important to bless God and not all that material around us because it will perish. I as Christian go through things myself. But I rather pass that while I am on this earth than live in eternal hell and reap everyday. For the Atheist: as much as you cover the sun with your hands I am sorry to tell you but it still exist. That is how God is in our lives. he loves you too and gives you the free will to speak out of your opinion. It is tragic when things happen and we are in the end of times so this has to happen so some of us can repent and become belivers or perish with the sins of earth that we cannot see. Also don't fear death we all have to die, Fear God because he can give you an eternal after life or if you don't believe in him their is another one waiting for your soul and that is his Goal on earth and belive it or not your comments actually make it seem so truthfull that the Devil is taking over the world

        November 11, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
        • John Sharp

          What a load of b.s.

          November 12, 2013 at 3:56 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      Im sure all those poor children who were screaming for help as they drowned are so happy they are supposedly now with the being that killed them.

      November 11, 2013 at 12:08 pm |
  15. Observer

    North Dakota

    November 11, 2013 at 11:53 am |
  16. Diraphe

    "Where was God when...." The simple answer is "nowhere" he is a figment of your imagination.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:52 am |
    • Observer

      Lol

      November 11, 2013 at 11:54 am |
      • Observer

        fake Observer,

        Prayer didn't do a thing for all the Christians in the Philippines who died praying.

        The Philippines are 90% Christians.

        Oooops!

        November 11, 2013 at 11:56 am |
        • Observer

          Prove it

          November 11, 2013 at 11:59 am |
        • Observer

          fake Observer,

          Prayer didn't do a thing for all the Christians in the Philippines who died praying.

          The Philippines are NINETY PERCENT CHRISTIAN.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
  17. Susan

    You're going to keep asking this question, "Where was God...this or that" until hell freezes over aren't you? Good luck.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:45 am |
    • non-Dyslexic Doris

      Well it is the difference between me and the "involved" god of the fundy as another poster says. I wouldn't allow such travesty if I held that much power.

      November 11, 2013 at 11:52 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      What do we win if we guess correctly? I'm guessing He was in Pittsburgh.

      November 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
  18. AE

    God is with us.

    "In 2010, on that first evening after the earthquake in Haiti, news reports came in that said that when night fell on the streets of Port AU Prince people were singing hymns and psalms. Blessed be God, they sang. People were singing praises to God amidst their entire world destroyed.

    It’s important to note that to sing praises to God amongst destruction and violence is not the same thing as saying Hey God we think you’re awesome for allowing these horrible things to happen. To sing praise to God amidst destruction and violence is to simply put evil in it’s place. It’s to draw a line and say here and no further. For the devil surely hates the sound of alleluia."

    Nadia Bolz-Weber

    November 11, 2013 at 11:43 am |
    • Dyslexic doG

      infantile slave mind

      November 11, 2013 at 11:52 am |
      • AE

        How so?

        November 11, 2013 at 11:54 am |
    • cedar rapids

      what evil? are you suggesting god wasnt responsible for the earthquake? what 'evil' was involved?

      November 11, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
      • AE

        Anything that destroys and kills is evil.

        November 11, 2013 at 12:16 pm |
        • cedar rapids

          then that means god must be evil then, unless you claim that he didnt either cause or bother to stop the earthquake.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:19 pm |
        • AE

          "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

          Jesus (John 10:10)

          November 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm |
        • God

          "I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." But I got there and decided it would be more fun to drown them all instead.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm |
        • Richard Cranium

          AE
          So your god is evil.

          Genesis
          "20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.[a][b] 21 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark."

          You are right...your god is evil.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:42 pm |
        • AE

          Richard Cranium

          No, those people were evil. A flood killed them. Had they listened to God and gave up their evil ways they could have survived the flood.

          November 11, 2013 at 12:49 pm |
        • Joey

          Nice back tracking AE, if that is the case then why did you state earlier that ANYTHING that kills is evil?

          November 11, 2013 at 12:56 pm |
        • AE

          Because it is.

          November 11, 2013 at 1:01 pm |
        • Joey

          Obviously you don't actually think that or you would say that god is also evil. So I guess what you originally meant was that anything that kills is evil, unless god does the killing? Or maybe you think god is nothing?

          November 11, 2013 at 1:27 pm |
        • AE

          God created life, right? At least in that story that is how it goes. And in that story the people were completely wicked and evil, right?

          November 11, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
        • Joey

          What does that have to do with anything? Your original post said anything that kills is evil, if you didn't mean that then why did you say it?

          November 11, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
        • Susan StoHelit

          You're trying to claim every person was evil? Every poor girl held captive and abused? Every child? Every baby?

          Yeah. Excuses.

          November 11, 2013 at 5:35 pm |
  19. Madtown

    Oh boy, here we go. What's the over/under on number of comments on this one?

    November 11, 2013 at 11:21 am |
  20. Joe

    Kudos to the American missionary providing relief to the hurricane victims.

    November 11, 2013 at 11:20 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Kudos to everyone providing relief to the hurricane victims. I encourage all to donate via richarddawkins.net.

      November 11, 2013 at 11:30 am |
    • Atheist

      Who is this missionary?

      November 11, 2013 at 11:31 am |
      • Joe

        Typhoon Haiyan: US missionary delivers aid By Amber Dawson–BBC News

        November 11, 2013 at 11:32 am |
    • Help is needed

      CURRENT FOCUS: SUPER TYPHOON HAIYAN

      RECIPIENT: CITIZENS' DISASTER RESPONSE CENTER (CDRC)

      http://foundationbeyondbelief.org/crisis

      November 11, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • Psalms

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kT4hCs-iMgQ

      November 11, 2013 at 11:43 am |
      • Levi Aaron

        The person who is suffering can ask the question –'Where is God?', it is the process through which a person's faith, struggle, pain and grief evolves and the ultimate path that leads to hope.

        However, God will ask others –'Where were you when your neighbor was suffering?'

        November 11, 2013 at 12:36 pm |
      • Realist

        ******************************

        Where was GOD ???? ha ha ha ha ha!

        ******************************

        ... http://www.GODisIMARINARY.com ...

        ... and thank goodness because he emanates from the ...

        ... http://www.EVILbibe.com ...

        ******************************

        November 11, 2013 at 10:15 pm |
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33
Advertisement
About this blog

The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.