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December 2nd, 2013
11:29 AM ET
Rush Limbaugh: Pope is preaching 'pure Marxism'By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN) - Pope Francis: Successor to St. Peter ... the people's pontiff ... Marxist? That's what conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh suggests, calling the Pope's latest document "pure Marxism." Limbaugh blasted the pontiff on Wednesday, a day after Francis released "Evangelii Gaudium" (The Joy of the Gospel), a 50,000-word statement that calls for church reform and castigates elements of modern capitalism. Limbaugh's segment, now online and entitled "It's Sad How Wrong Pope Francis Is (Unless It's a Deliberate Mistranslation By Leftists)," takes direct aim at the pope's economic views, calling them "dramatically, embarrassingly, puzzlingly wrong." The Vatican issued the English translation of "Evangelii," which is known officially as an apostolic exhortation and unofficially as a pep talk to the worlds 1.5 billion Catholics. Francis - the first pope ever to hail from Latin America, where he worked on behalf of the poor in his native Argentina - warned in "Evangelii" that the "idolatry of money" would lead to a "new tyranny." The Pope also blasted "trickle-down economics," saying the theory "expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power." READ MORE: Pope Francis: No more business as usual The Pope's critique of capitalism thrilled many liberal Catholics, who have long called on church leaders to spend more time and energy on protecting the poor from economic inequalities. But Limbaugh, whose program is estimated to reach 15 million listeners, called the Pope's comments "sad" and "unbelievable." "It's sad because this pope makes it very clear he doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to capitalism and socialism and so forth." In fact, Argentina was a battlefield between leftist socialists and right-wing security forces during much of Francis' early career in the country, where he was a Jesuit priest and later archbishop of Buenos Aires. Limbaugh, who is not Catholic, said he admires the faith "profoundly." He admired Pope Francis as well, "up until this," Limbaugh said. The talk show host also said that he has made numerous visits to the Vatican, which he said "wouldn't exist without tons of money." "But regardless, what this is, somebody has either written this for him or gotten to him," Limbaugh added. "This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the Pope." Limbaugh took particular issue with the Pope's criticism of the "culture of prosperity," which the pontiff called a "mere spectacle" for the many people who can't afford to participate. "This is almost a statement about who should control financial markets," Limbaugh said. "He says that the global economy needs government control." "I'm not Catholic, but I know enough to know that this would have been unthinkable for a pope to believe or say just a few years ago," Limbaugh continued. In fact, Francis' predecessor, Benedict XVI, now pope emeritus, could be just as strong a critic of capitalism. In 2009, Benedict, in an official church document called an encyclical, said there was an urgent need for "a political, juridical and economic order" that would "manage the global economy." As Limbaugh notes, Benedict's predecessor, the late Pope John Paul II, was a noted foe of communism, after living under its oppressions in his native Poland. But even John Paul thought that unregulated capitalism could have negative consequences. In "Evangelii," Francis called for more of a spiritual and ethical revolution than a regulatory one. "I encourage financial experts and political leaders to ponder the words of one of the sages of antiquity: `Not to share one’s wealth with the poor is to steal from them and to take away their livelihood. It is not our own goods which we hold, but theirs,'" said Francis, quoting the fifth-century St. John Chrysostom. Liberal Catholics defended Pope Francis on Monday, calling on Limbaugh to apologize and retract his remarks. "To call the Holy Father a proponent 'pure Marxism' is both mean-spirited and naive," said Christopher Hale of the Washington-based Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good. "Francis's critique of unrestrained capitalism is in line with the Church's social teaching." Limbaugh is not the only conservative commentator to take issue with the Pope's views on capitalism. READ MORE: Sarah Palin 'taken aback' by Pope Francis's 'liberal' statements “I go to church to save my soul," said Fox News' Stuart Varney, who is an Episcopalian. "It’s got nothing to do with my vote. Pope Francis has linked the two. He has offered direct criticism of a specific political system. He has characterized negatively that system. I think he wants to influence my politics.” It doesn't sound like the criticism is slowing Francis down, however. He's started sending a Vatican contingent, including the Papal Swiss Guards, into Rome to deliver food and charity. soundoff (6,695 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 Next » |
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Dear Rush,
Why would the pope give two holy cuss words about anything that comes out of your big, fat, jowly mouth? He's the pope. Go get a bucket of fried chicken with extra skin and bring yourself closer to to the end please. That is all.
Bryan
Trickle down economics is a fail .... Mmmm, do we really need a pope to tell us this? The only people who don't know this live under rocks or have more money than they deserve, which is WHY trickle down economics does not work
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Trickle up did not work. I think now is the time to start middle trickle. That will be the answer.
There's an excellent discussion of Christianity and Socialism and how they complement each other. It's at http://www.progressivechristianalliance.org/Blog/articles/christianity-and-socialism/
on the Progressive Christian Alliance website if you're interested. The discussion includes pertinent Bible references.
Unfortunately, the organization's name kills its credibility. An organization using the term "progressive" in its name or mission statement will fall on deaf ears given the mess that declared and closeted progressives have made of things since the Johnson administration. Actually, it goes back even further, but Johnson's Great Society was when the train of what had made America the envy of the world really started to come off the tracks. It been sad to watch over the course of a lifetime...and yes, both Bushes contributed to it as well. They were of the closeted variety.
“I go to church to save my soul," said Fox News' Stuart Varney, who is an Episcopalian. "It’s got nothing to do with my vote. Pope Francis has linked the two. He has offered direct criticism of a specific political system. He has characterized negatively that system. I think he wants to influence my politics.”
So, if you aren't voting to prohibit abortion, deny contraceptives, or prevent gays from marrying because of your religious beliefs, then why are you? You're just a jerk?
Why does anyone care what he thinks? What an idiot.
WHY in the name of any shred of professional journalism is what Rush Limbaugh thinks headlining CNN.com?? If you look at the actual segment of people who slavishly follow his show, compared to not only the rest of this nation but of a global audience related to all things papal, then there is no justification for promoting his opinion as if it mattered.
I will never cease to be amazed at how much of this man's success is due to overhyping by the supposedly mainstream media. You guys just keep giving him a platform. WHY? What's in in for you? Must be something, because it seems to be worth a lot more than the hit to your credibility as "news" organization.
Bashing Limbaugh and other conservatives is just a way to appeal to CNN's dramatically decreasing viewership base. Folks at CNN and MSNBC as well as the rest of the so-called left leaning media editorially do not understand basic concepts of viewer ratings and market share. As I noted elsewhere, this continuing foolishness given the dropping advertising revenue (not slots, but the amount they charge based on viewership) is actually kinda fun to watch. They just keep digging their hole deeper and deeper. One definition of insanity? "Doing same thing over and over expecting different results."
I'll never understand what CNN gains by reporting on this low life druggie. He's insignificant.
Way years ago I read an article that said that if every man and woman capable of donating 25 cents donated as in number of people in their household say like four people would be a dollar... There would be no one starving on this earth. It's sad when you think of the ones abusing a donation center by getting rich themselves off the generosity of others. They sleep fine even though a Veteran needs help desperately, or a family is starving in a third world country, or another is burying a loved one because they did not have access to healthcare. We are all barbarians turning a blind eye towards our planet. Our world has thousands of donations going to help different needs and the main one is for food, but yet people are still starving.
I don't believe the Pope is on target at all. Because even with a one world food distribution center, there will still be those to abuse the system because money trumps all. Just look at our donation system that we have now, and you can see whom on this earth will be able to profit the most. Those at the top.
Rush, you are nothing but an over-publicized windbag. As a Marxist I take great offense to your comments. A true Marxist would immediately dissolve all of the churches holdings and redistribute equally to all. They would then abolish themselves as the tyrannical hierarchy they have been for over two millennia.
You speak to millions of small minded people every day. I know you know the true basis of Marxism and actually know of some of its advantages. Drop the disingenuous rants and speak of the truth for a change.
Old Mush Blimpblob strikes again. If the Pope is Marxist then what does that make Rush? A capitalist pig perhaps?
Let me see...Neither has the moral authority over anyone. Both are members of the same primate species. Oh, and they both obtain the same future outcome, non-existence when they die. Grow Up America. Use your reasoning because it's not what you think, it's how you think.
I'm sure Rush is loving the free publciity CNN.
Trickle down economics is a fail .... Mmmm, do we really need a pope to tell us this? The only people who don't know this live under rocks or have more money than they deserve, which is WHY trickle down economics does not work.
How dare you blaspheme the infallible policies of Saint Reagan of Gipper!
More money than they deserve? Who decides how much money a person "deserves". I thought as long as people made money honestly, they can work as hard as they want....to make as much as they want.....to be as successful as they want.
When wealth is built on the exploitation of those who work for you.
When an extraordinarily small percentage of the population owns and controls the wealth and assets of 99% of the entire world and hoards said wealth to the detriment of all but themselves, they have too much money.
" Who decides how much money a person "deserves". I do. If you have millions and are still a spoiled brat and a waste of human skin, you need to give most of it away and shoot yourself.
I guess all these pure and selfless ,giving and caring share with poor whatever little they have ,you all I believe have right to throw a stone or write your words of anger at this man because you are always selfless and giving and sharing .You spend what you need and give the rest to the alms and poor and deeply concerned about your friends kith and kin when are in need of money. You truly follow the doctrines of god and walk the walk . You are all pure souls. God bless you!
"throw a stone or write your words of anger at this man " Why, thank you, and gesundheit. Are you defending Rush or the Pope today?
Why is Limbaugh upset? There's nothing really new about what the Pope said. The church has always criticized greed and advocated for a social doctrine. What is he expecting him to say? That there should be a marginal tax rate of zero on the rich?
CNN, the bias is so obvious. Consider this agenda-driven contradiction in this article: 1. you claim that "The Pope's critique of capitalism thrilled many liberal Catholics"....,then, scrolling down, you get in your lefty dig at Rush by contradicting the above claim with "In fact, Francis' predecessor, Benedict XVI, now pope emeritus, could be just as strong a critic of capitalism, blah blah blah..so, are you saying liberals are "thrilled" even though the new Pope is saying nothing new? Also, Rush is absolutely correct in that the Vatican is a vast treasure of MONEY,..how hypocritical of the Pope to criticize capitalism, and how hypocritical of you libs to support this fakery.
Give me a choice between Rush and a goat's bladder, and I'll take advice from a goat's bladder every time. Get lost, Limbaugh, you big bloated spud. You can't get anything right.
Limbaugh's an nitiot (non-thinking idiot)
oxy is talking.........not Rush!!!!!!!
Jesus was Marxist. And Conservative Christians sure do love Jesus!
wrong on the first part, correct on the second. The Good Lord wanted men to change their hearts and place their trust in God and make Him first in their lives, if this happened, everything else took care of itself.