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December 19th, 2013
01:49 PM ET

CNN Exclusive: Family pastor defends 'Duck Dynasty' star

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
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(CNN) - While controversy swirled around Phil Robertson Wednesday evening, the "Duck Dynasty" patriarch was at his longtime church, praying for a young woman who suffers from cancer, the TV star's pastor told CNN in an exclusive interview.

"Phil led us in prayer," said Mike Kellett, senior pastor of White's Ferry Road Church of Christ in West Monroe, Louisiana. "There were greater things on our minds than the firestorm of controversy about this article."

Asked how Robertson is taking the fierce criticism of his remarks on homosexuality, Kellett said, "He's very calm, and very confident that if he serves the Lord, God will take care of everything."

Robertson, 67, was suspended by the A&E network on Wednesday after the publication of comments in GQ magazine. Citing the Bible, the outspoken Christian called homosexuality sinful and compared it to bestiality and drunkenness.

Robertson's remarks were a rough paraphrase of the New Testament, in which Paul catalogs a list of vices, including, in many Bible translations, homosexuality. Scholars and pastors disagree, however, about whether Paul's remarks should apply to modern gay and lesbian relationships.

Gay rights groups were outraged, calling Robertson's remarks "homophobic" and "hateful." A&E said it was "disappointed" by the comments, "which are based on his own beliefs and are not reflected in the series 'Duck Dynasty.' "

But Robertson, who looks a bit like an Old Testament prophet,  says conservative Christian beliefs and values have permeated every corner of his life ever he gave up his self-described heathen lifestyle as a honky-tonk operator in the 1970s.

"I myself am a product of the '60s; I centered my life around sex, drugs and rock and roll until I hit rock bottom Savior," Robertson said in a statement on Thursday. "My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together."

‘Duck Dynasty’ reactions debate: Free speech or bigotry?

Robertson is an elder at White's Ferry Road Church of Christ, a nondenominational church that gathers around 1,200 worshippers on Sunday mornings. That means he offers spiritual counsel, helps teach the faith, hosts Bible studies and offers charity to the poor, Kellett said.

"He has literally helped bring hundreds of people to the Lord," the pastor added.

Robertson's son, Alan, co-pastored White Ferry with Kellet for eight years before joining the cast of "Duck Dynasty."

The show, which A&E says drew nearly 12 million viewers to the premiere of its fourth season in August, is enormously popular among conservative Christians, many of whom defended Robertson on social media Thursday. A online petition called "I Stand With Phil," garnered nearly 10,000 signatures by midday.

Opinion: ‘Duck Dynasty’ suspension doesn’t violate First Amendment

As Robertson's fame has grown, so has the size of his pulpit. He has preached at megachurch Pastor Rick Warren's Saddleback Church in California. Publishers peddle "The Duck Commander Devotional" and churches clamor for guest appearances by the Robertson family.

“We’re kind of the John the Baptists of the 21st century," Alan Robertson has said. "It’s how you imagine, with the wild hair and the locusts."

Kellett said his church backs Robertson, whose family is nearly royalty in West Monroe, a city of 13,000 in northern Louisiana. "We support the Robertson family, and strongly believe in our Bibles and in Jesus Christ as lord."

The pastor said he agrees with Phil Robertson's comments about homosexuality and is concerned about his critics' treatment of Christianity.

"I think it's unfortunate that when you quote the Bible people get upset about one particular sin that always seems to get a lot of attention," Kellett said. "But sometimes the Bible is going to rub folks the wrong way."

Palin and Jindal weigh in

- CNN Religion Editor

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  1. children of Israel

    Alexander the great was gay. Christ never talked about Sodom, or did he? Christ never had a religion, or is the world is calling him a liar.People hate Christ but they loved his blond hair and blue eyes written in the church doctrines. That means some body saw Jesus and painted his face and his last supper with all the apostles, only the church make graven images.

    December 19, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
    • Free Nuts

      Is there a point there somewhere?

      December 19, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
  2. Rodents for Romney

    "I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together."

    Just more proof these idiot fundie "pastors" cherry pick the Babble.
    Saul of Tarsus said CELIBACY was the higher value, (as he thought the end-times, just as Jebus mistakenly did, were immanent).
    "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain single as I am. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion" (7:8-9).

    Obviously scripture does NOT teach "men and women are MEANT to be together".

    December 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • Russ

      @ Rodents: did you read the rest of 1 Cor.7? it's all about marriage.
      how about Eph.5:23-32? again, all about marriage – and connected to Christ and the Church (which obviously is a much bigger deal for Paul than just human relationships).

      per your thoughts on cherry picking, here's a quick read on why that is a basic failure to understand the Bible...
      http://www.redeemer.com/news_and_events/newsletter/?aid=363

      December 19, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
      • JJ

        That the bible has such an extremely high rate of failing to be understood proves it's not divine at all but a human concocted piece of medieval trash. I would think the "perfect word of god" could be read and understood by a newborn.

        December 19, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
        • Russ

          @ JJ: so it makes more sense to you that the Infinite would be readily accessible & easily recognizable to the finite? that seems directly contrary to the definition of Infinite/Transcendent/etc.

          more to the point: *why* would God communicate with us... at all? what does that tell us about Him? and – considering the infinite qualitative difference between Creator & creation – how could we know anything at all about him unless He speaks *for himself* (i.e., in the manner of his own choosing, not according to our preference or "what makes sense to me")?

          you clearly have a lot of theological doctrine going on underneath. on what basis do you make your claims? it's obvious (as is often mocked) where Christians base theirs... so what about you? on what basis are you constraining the identi.ty & means of communication God has for him/her/itself?

          December 19, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
        • JJ

          Er...I'm an atheist so all your questions are moot.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
        • Russ

          @ JJ: no, you are still doing metaphysics.
          as Nietzsche said: "it is still a metaphysical faith that underlies our faith in science."

          and that's my point. you clearly are doing the same things you are mocking in others. but your criticism shows you lack self-awareness.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
        • Madtown

          *why* would God communicate with us... at all?
          ----
          Sure, why? Maybe a better question is, if he would communicate with some of us, why not all of us? He didn't create us equal?

          December 19, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
        • Russ

          @ Madtown: at least that's a better question.

          3 reasons for equality in the Bible:
          1) we were all made in God's image
          2) the cross tells us we are equally in need of a savior (we all deserve to die)
          3) the cross also tells us we are more loved than we ever dared hope (he was willing to die for us)

          as for "why not do it a different way?" – it's dodging:
          a) that we don't dictate the terms to God
          b) that he *has* done something

          December 19, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
        • Madtown

          a) that we don't dictate the terms to God
          b) that he *has* done something
          -----
          I'm not dictating terms, I'm asking logical questions. Seems to me you "as.sume he *has* done something", in inspiring scripture. I in turn ask the logical question, "why to only a select few, and in 1 small region of the world he created."

          December 19, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
        • Russ

          @ Madtown: it is one thing simply to ask why God acted in a particular way. it is another thing entirely to intimate that if there is a God, he certainly *wouldn't* do it that way. i am sensing strongly that you are doing the latter.

          and that IS dictating terms. it's doing theology, whether intentionally or not. it's assuming things about God... and so i'm asking the question: on what basis? from what authority? even your appeal to logic will ultimately come into question here (especially if you believe logic is solely an evolved trait that serves the function of survival and NOT actually guarantee access to objective truth).

          December 19, 2013 at 9:43 pm |
      • Rodents for Romney

        Nope. Paul was saying celibacy was BETTER than marriage. It's there for anyone to read.
        The ONLY reason ANY culotural norm was appropriated from the common Near Eastern culture, and written into the Babble, was because it ALREADY existed in, and originated FROM the culture. None of these norms were unique to, or originated from the people who edited, and assembled the Babble texts. These HUMAN< had NO knowledge of human se'xuality or the origins and causes of "orientations" EVERYONE was assumed to be straight based on gender assignment by birth. The texts were non-unamimously VOTED into the canon. There is NO reason why ancient HUMAN texts by ignorant desert dwellers should inform the culture of humans in 2013, and deny all the scientific and social advances. It's why belief in the US is loosing ground, (and it is).

        December 19, 2013 at 4:45 pm |
        • Russ

          @ Rodents: you're not hearing my response. YES, 1 Cor.7 says it'd be better for single people to remain single... "if they do not burn with passion" (i.e., have desires making that impossible to do without sinning). yes, Paul thinks that is "better" because they can focus ALL their attention on God & telling others about God (whereas us married folks have a lot of other things pulling on us: spouses, family, kids' sports, etc.).

          by your interpretation, this argument for celibacy means no Christian should get married. but if you read the rest of the Pauline corpus (much less just the chapter!), it's clear that's not what Paul means. he spills tons of ink on marriage. clearly it was expected. not only that, the Bible opens & closes with a marriage. Jesus first miracle is at a wedding. Jesus taught a ton about marriage, weddings, the ultimate wedding feast and even his own bride (the Church). your reading of these two verses fails to account for that vast array of doctrine that readily fits with the primary, clear reading of that passage in context.

          in short, you want to use those verses against the author's intent. you don't have to be a Christian to see that fails basic literary analysis.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
        • Rodents for Romney

          Jesus taught nothing. He never existed.
          Saul of Tarsus said he got his gospel from an hallucination.

          December 19, 2013 at 11:37 pm |
        • Russ

          @ Rodents:
          1) here's a link Bart Ehrman's forward to his book "Did Jesus Exist?" It will take you 90 seconds to read. note well: Bart Ehrman is about the most liberal biblical scholar on the planet. he is a self-proclaimed "agnostic with atheistic tendencies." in short, if there was someone in your camp out there in the field of biblical scholarship, it'd be him. now... notice how he absolutely repudiates your position here:
          http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2012/03/30/the-historical-evidence-of-the-existence-of-jesus-of-nazareth/

          2) Read 1 Cor.15:1-7 (the same letter you were quoting above). Paul certainly is claiming much more than just his vision on the road to Damascus.

          December 20, 2013 at 9:47 am |
    • KJ Hamnik

      I am receiving a unbelievable amount of abuse on Facebook/A&E because I stand against this hatred. It doesn't matter to me if someone is Christian or not. The professes to be a Christian and it using the word of God to show hatred to a group of people. But my comment on A&E is simply that A&E has the right to not back the man's comments. My own opnion is that Jesus died for all of us, for all of our sins, he didn't pick and choose. He was just on the side of a group of people that didn't yet exist, the evangelical right wing. And if the man professes to be a Christian then he should act like one.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
      • Rodents for Romney

        The idea that an ancient angry deity REQUIRED his son to die so he could feel better, is SO utterly preposterous that it defies comprehension. "Salvation" also was NOT the role of the Hebrew messiah, and Jebus never claimed he was a "savior", nor was that his message. When the young man in Matthew asked him what he had to do to get into heaven, did he say "just wait till I die" ? No. He said "keep the commandments". Apparently YOU think you know more than Jebus.

        December 19, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
      • Russ

        @ KJ: I've already posted this on here, but people seem not to hear it unless it comes from someone in their own camp. so here goes again... (notice, he would completely disagree with my views, but knows it's not hatred to care enough to speak the truth EVEN when you disagree)

        Penn Jillette (prominent atheist) says:
        “I’ve always said that I don’t respect people who don’t proselytize. I don’t respect that at all. If you believe that there’s a heaven and a hell, and people could be going to hell or not getting eternal life, and you think that it’s not really worth telling them this because it would make it socially awkward—and atheists who think people shouldn’t proselytize and who say just leave me alone and keep your religion to yourself—how much do you have to hate somebody to not proselytize? How much do you have to hate somebody to believe everlasting life is possible and not tell them that?

        “I mean, if I believed, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that a truck was coming at you, and you didn’t believe that truck was bearing down on you, there is a certain point where I tackle you. And this is more important than that.”

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owZc3Xq8obk

        December 19, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
  3. Church of Suicidal

    "Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues..."

    Well, at least until they went and whistled at that white woman. Kind of hard to sing the blues when you've been lynched...

    December 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • grace

      Some of the people who were lynched did nothing at all, or were even victims of crimes themselves, and tried to defend themselves or their families against whites who had committed crimes. Women were also lynched, which included not just hanging but things like being tortured to death, burned alive, having their unborn babies killed, etc. Not to mention that sharecropping was in many cases similar to slavery. Poor white people also suffered and were not always "happy" as sharecroppers, although they at least had more rights than black people did under Jim Crow.

      December 20, 2013 at 10:01 am |
  4. william

    What people seem to forget is the Bible was written by men here on earth, it was not written in Heaven. So we don't actually know what the good lord things about gay people or anything for that matter.

    December 19, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
  5. AJ

    White christians, this is why nobody trusts you.

    December 19, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • lngtrmthnkr

      Aj, as white Christian,I agree with the new Pope though I'm not Catholic. "Who are we to Judge?"

      December 19, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
  6. Fred Evil

    " if he serves the Lord, God will take care of everything."
    That's what David Koresh's followers believe. That's what Muslims believe.
    Unfortunately, anyone rational will regularly observe that god does NOT take care of ANYTHING, much less EVERYTHING.

    December 19, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
  7. Rob

    Mr. Robertson exercised his freedom of speech. What he said was ignorant, racist, nasty, and wrong. He is a public figure and when people like him make comments like he did there are consequences. The supporters of Mr. Robertson risk the same fate which tie his words to themselves. i.e. Cruz, Palin, and his pastor. Go ahead do it. You only make yourself look really bad.

    December 19, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
  8. nuclear mike

    Thank you Phil for the truth and the resolve to speak out against the liberal entertainment media who profits from Duck Dynasty until they don't like what they hear on a reality show!!!

    A&E...what made the Duck Dynasty great for the #1 show of profits for A&E will nNOT be sacrificed for the censure and bigorty toward Christians for their righteous beliefs and the will to express those beliefs!

    A&E...you have made Phil the HERO!!!

    December 19, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • Observer

      Here's the "HERO's" background according to Wikipedia:

      In the 1970s, his marriage became strained. Robertson, now running a bar, was falling prey to alcohol, and at times would kick his wife and children out of the house. He began to commit many crimes, and would hide out in the woods for weeks at a time to avoid the authorities.

      Oooops!

      December 19, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
      • timemachine

        wow, did you really go back to the 70's? If all you could find was bad behavior from the 70's, I believe everyone agrees, we have all changed since then. Bad argument there

        December 19, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
        • Sue

          Charles Manson did all his bad stuff back in the 60s, so what's your point?

          December 19, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
      • Hopsing600

        OOPS? Nice try, but his background is very well-known and talked about by him. It's that background that eventually led him to Christianity and to change his lifestyle because he realized that that sort of life was going nowhere fast. The point is that WAS his background and he was able to change. He offers this testimony to show that he's not perfect and that people can change from things that they do and live better lives that treat others better and fear and honor God. And the reason that people see him as a hero is that he is standing up in the face of extreme criticism and saying what he believes. The vile comments made by people about him demonstrate his courage. If A&E had a backbone and stood behind their star (even if they denounced his stand on issues) they too could be a hero in the situation. As it is, they caved and pandered to the loudest voice, afraid of the repercussions. Well. they're hearing it now...

        December 19, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
        • UncleM

          So now he's a wife beater and a bigot.

          December 19, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Free Nuts

      The issue wasn't regarding something heard on the show.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • Maddy

      Robertson is welcome to his views.
      A&E expressed theirs.
      Robertson is not being persecuted. He most likely violated his contract.
      Freedom has consequences.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • igaftr

      another christian supremacist screaming from the choir...sad.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
    • Fred Evil

      The 'truth'?
      It shall set you free, and your religion AIN'T IT!

      December 19, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      'Thank you Phil for the truth and the resolve to speak out against the liberal entertainment media who profits from Duck Dynasty until they don't like what they hear on a reality show!!!'

      Yeah because Phil wasnt being paid for his appearance on the show or anything right?

      December 19, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      "... the liberal entertainment media who profits from Duck Dynasty until they don't like what they hear on a reality show ..."

      As I understand it he didn't make those comments on the A&E show; either way A&E have a right to distance themselves from him and the show if they feel that his comments would reflect on them.

      December 19, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
  9. Free Nuts

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHAyUqEauE

    December 19, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
  10. Tired of the Cray Cray

    "We’re kind of the John the Baptists of the 21st century" HAHAHA!
    It's official. Christians are NUTS. CRAZY. OUT OF THEIR MINDS. Most of y'all are WHITE and believe a MIDDLE-EASTERN SKY GOD is gonna grant your pasty butt immortality?! All you gotta do is BELIEVE? Rich or poor, kill 'em or love 'em, if I believe a virgin gave birth to the son of a god, who in turn had himself executed JUST so he resurrect himself from the dead so I could get into heaven??? All because a talking snake told one of Adam's rib to eat a magical fruit from "the tree of knowledge"? that's what jesus died? Because a talking snake convinced a gullible woman (is there any other kind) to eat an enchanted apple? It's like combining the jungle book (talking snakes) with snow white (magical apples) to equal The Santa Claus Movie (immortal deity grants material possessions to blind followers).

    December 19, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
  11. niknak

    Why does conservative xtianity and crac kers go so well together?

    December 19, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
  12. Frank Habla

    What about his comments about blacks being treated equally during the Jim Crow laws era?

    December 19, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • sly

      Blacks loved it when Duck's daddy hung them from trees. You could see their watermelon smiles.

      Duck knew plenty of good boys that his daddy hung for fun ... all good southern games ....

      December 19, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
      • jed clampett

        But they like being called pickaninnies.

        December 19, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
      • cedar rapids

        apparently they were all smiles and singing during jim crow....phil said so.

        December 19, 2013 at 4:45 pm |
      • Christine

        Phil's grandson Will Jr. is black. Obviously Phil did not raise his children to be racist, as Willie's eldest child is an adopted black boy. This one is going to be a 'fai'l on the part of intolerant liberals.

        December 19, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
  13. Recovering Ex-Christian

    In the article, it states " "He has literally helped bring hundreds of people to the Lord," the pastor added." How many more have been turned off by his hatred of God's children who are different?

    December 19, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • Russ

      @ Ex-Christian: why call people "children of God"? what is your theological basis?
      it's clear you have some doctrine in mind here – whether intentionally or not.

      according to the Bible, only those who call on Christ are adopted into the family.
      "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." (Jn.1:12)

      December 19, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • Alex

      How exactly is calling something a sin hate? I'm promiscuous and and consume more than my share of alcohol, both sins according to Phil Robertson. And yet, I don't feel like Phil hates me or has said anything hateful about my chosen lifestyle.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
      • Sue

        They use to beat kids who were left-handed into using their right like everyone else because Satan was left-handed, and Judas too. Acting use to be considered sinful 120 years ago, because it involved lying. It's not everyone's opinion that being gay is in any way wrong, including many Christians.

        December 19, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
  14. Chris

    {W}e wish Christians to so act that we will not have to forgive them. If all will admit that all have an equal right to think, then the question is forever solved; but as long as organized and powerful churches, pretending to hold the keys of heaven and hell, denounce every person as an outcast and criminal who thinks for himself and denies their authority, the world will be filled with hatred and suffering. To hate man and worship God seems to be the sum of all the creeds.”
    ― Robert G. Ingersoll, Some Mistakes of Moses

    December 19, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • Recovering Ex-Christian

      Amen!

      December 19, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
  15. hobe

    If Christians can so easily forgive Robertson's sordid past, why can't they (including him) leave gays alone. Practice the real ministry of Jesus Christ and maybe you wouldn't be so hateful..

    December 19, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
    • A Beliver In Christ

      We are not hateful, in fact I have gay friends, adulters, idolerters, and drunkards as friends and they know my beliefs and I have converted a few gays who thought they were born gay which is not true. They were deceived by the great deceiver himself.

      December 19, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
      • In Santa we trust

        ".. converted a few gays .."

        Yeah, right!

        December 19, 2013 at 5:04 pm |
  16. Chipndale

    You can't have a double standard. Praising Chik Fil A for taking a stand on corporate principle but not for A&E. There is no difference.

    December 19, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
  17. Recovering Ex-Christian

    Interchangeable terms...Radical Muslims.....Radical Christians

    December 19, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
    • Chipndale

      Sometimes, but not all.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
      • Recovering Ex-Christian

        Chpper.....The key word is Radical .

        December 19, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
  18. igaftr

    Do they call it duck dynasty because they make ducks die nasty?

    December 19, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
    • Doris

      Maybe they just dye them bright colors and put them back for the hunting businesses that cater to newbie hunters.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
  19. Observer

    Which did Jesus consider more important?

    Verses condemning gays or the Golden Rule?

    December 19, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
    • Susan

      Don't talk about something you know nothing about. The "Golden Rule". Show me where in the bible you find that. What Phil said was biblical. He also said hate the sin not the sinner. If you believe different that is fine. I have no problem with your beliefs. But your opinion does not change what is written in the bible. I suggest you actually read it for yourself before you say you know what it says.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
      • Chris

        Nothing you said Susan is in the bible either. Nothing in the bible actually quotes the "real" Jesus either considering it was written decades after he died by people who never knew him or even any of his original disciples. They are simply repeating stories known from their history.

        December 19, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
        • Susan

          I didn't quote the bible. I said what Phil said was biblical. He also included other sins as being just as bad. He even talks about how he himself lived a sinful life. Everyone that believes Jesus Christ was the son of God and came to died for their sins can be forgiven. If you chose not to believe that it is fine with me and I'm sure it is fine with all Christians. We will still pray for you.

          December 19, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
      • CharlesP

        "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."
        Matthew 7:12

        So, are you Christians willing to have your marriage rights taken away as you do onto gay others?

        December 19, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
  20. JJ

    I guess the only difference between this Christian and Pastor Fred Phelps is at least this particular Christian doesn't spit upon dead solder's graves. I mean, Phelps is acting according to the bible too, right?

    December 19, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
    • Topher

      NO! Phelps is most definately not.

      December 19, 2013 at 4:01 pm |
      • Chipndale

        He can quote scripture to defend his stance. Where do you draw the line?

        December 19, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
        • Topher

          He's misusing Scripture. I can use it to defend any horrible point I wanted to, too, if I'm OK with taking the Bible out of context.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
        • Madtown

          He's misusing Scripture
          -----
          According to what standard?

          December 19, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
        • Topher

          The Biblical standard.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
        • Charm Quark

          Topher
          Careful here, what our lying Topher means is the biblical standard as he interprets it, everyone else is wrong and going to hell. The World According to Topher.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
        • Madtown

          LOL. Let me guess...your favorite shape is a circle? Your reasoning certainly resembles one. Yes of course, the "biblical standard". That's precisely what's been brought up, when people take things literally out of the bible and practice them. Whether it be Phelps, or as JJ pointed out, people handling snakes or ingesting poison. They're just following the bible, so they are following the biblical standard. Who are you to say they're not? You are the arbiter of the proper usage of scripture?

          December 19, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
        • Topher

          As I said below ... If you interpret any verse contrary to the author's intent, you're wrong.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
        • Madtown

          Thankfully there's only 1 version, and there has never been any modifications so we know exactly the intent of the "author". LOL again. You're on a roll today, you circular-reasoning unintentional-comedian!

          December 19, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
        • Charm Quark

          Topher
          And of course it is you that knows who the authors were and what their intentions were; I find that pompous and arrogant.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
        • Chris

          Topher, you are a hoot. Maybe we should get you an A&E show so you can show the worst of American culture. "As I said below ... If you interpret any verse contrary to the author's intent, you're wrong." So you know what the original intent of what some unknown person(s) wrote about 1900 years ago. years after the person they are supposedly quoting had even died? Nobody can even agree on what duck man said a day ago. The bible is a joke and should not be given any more credibility than the fairy tales collected by the Brothers Grimm.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
        • Topher

          Chris

          "Topher, you are a hoot."

          Glad I can make you smile.

          "So you know what the original intent of what some unknown person(s) wrote about 1900 years ago."

          The authors aren't unknown except for a couple books. And yes, I can know the intent because it's been the same since the books were written. We know what the early church fathers held about them because they knew the authors. This isn't rocket science, guys.

          "years after the person they are supposedly quoting had even died?"

          So what? You can't remember what your grandfather told you?

          December 19, 2013 at 4:41 pm |
        • Charm Quark

          Topher
          And yet you say that Catholics are not Christian because they do not interpret the bible like you do? You do realize if it wasn't for the RCC keeping the BS up and running for 1500 years or so there would be no protestants, no Baptists, none of the 1000's of other splintered cults. The early church fathers were Catholics you moron; your posts get dumber as the day goes on.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
      • JJ

        There you go. See the slippery slope? Scripture was once used to validate slavery and genocide. It's used today so Appalachian Christin nutjobs can play with snakes. It never stops. So you are the authority as to what every verse means and in what context? Every Christian either simply tosses out verses or interprets them to fit their own agenda.

        December 19, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
        • Topher

          If you interpret any verse contrary to the author's intent, you're wrong.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
        • Charm Quark

          Topher
          Here we see Topher and his fellow cultists, born agains, telling everyone how to live and think. Is he sane. hard to tell.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
        • JJ

          Odd how every Christian I've ever met has the correct interpretation, knows the author's intent and claims to be the real True Christian®.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
        • Charm Quark

          It is about this time at the height of his stupidity that Topher most often runs away, run Topher run.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
        • JJ

          That's always the end result when you have nothing but vapor and bullshit to back up your claims.

          December 19, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
    • grace

      I agree. There are thousands of different Christian denominations with different interpretations of the Bible. That's just in the present day. If you go back through history, even 100 years ago, Christians believed things that hardly any Christian today would openly support. Some Christian pastors preached that interracial marriage was condemned by the Bible. Bob Jones University was teaching this up until the 1990s. So please spare us the claims that the Bible is easily applied to current social and moral questions.

      December 20, 2013 at 9:55 am |
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