Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?
Phil Robertson of A&E's "Duck Dynasty" has been suspended for his comments on homosexuality.
December 20th, 2013
11:23 AM ET

Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
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(CNN) - The Robertson family of "Duck Dynasty" fame has rallied around its patriarch, saying his controversial comments on homosexuality are "grounded in the teachings of the Bible." But Scripture is fiercely contested ground, and some experts say Phil Robertson misinterprets a key Bible verse.

A&E, the network that broadcasts the hugely popular "Duck Dynasty" show, suspended Robertson for a now infamous interview with GQ magazine. In the article, Robertson, who became a born-again Christian in the 1970s after a prodigal youth, is asked to define "sin."

Here's what Robertson says: “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

Robertson, 67, then paraphrases a Bible passage from the New Testament: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers - they won’t inherit the kingdom of God.”

That's a pretty close citation of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, which is a letter from Paul, often called the father of Christianity theology, to a fledgling Christian community in Corinth, Greece.

Here's what Paul's passage says, as rendered in the New International Version, by far the most popular translation among evangelicals and conservative Christians such as Robertson:

"Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Evangelicals, who make up about a quarter of the U.S. population, tend to take that passage at face value. The Robertson family pastor, for instance, told CNN on Thursday that "the verse explains itself."

Robertson himself is no religious neophyte. He's an elder in the White's Ferry Road Church of Christ and offers spiritual counseling, charity and Bible studies to many in his hometown of West Monroe, Louisiana, the family pastor, Mike Kellett told CNN.

The "Duck Dynasty" star also preaches around the country to conservatives that flock to hear his blend of woodsy, plainspoken Christianity.

Many conservatives backed Robertson's views on Scripture and homosexuality this week, if not the "crude" way he argued his point to GQ.

My Take: The Bible really does condemn homosexuality

But other Bible experts said the Scripture Robertson cited isn't quite clear about homosexuality.

"A lot of people misread this text because it's so complicated," said O. Wesley Allen Jr., an associate professor at Lexington Theological Seminary in Kentucky.

First, scholars say, we have to look at the context surrounding Paul's letter.

The Christian leader is trying to get the quarreling Corinthians to stop taking each other to civil courts and being judgmental. "The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already," Paul says.

Things were supposed to be different after they became Christian believers, Paul continues; they were supposed to stop their sinful ways.

Then Paul lists some of their sins of the past, including greed, drinking too much, worshipping idols and sexual immorality. "That is what some of you were," Paul says. "But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

The list of sins is likely based on rumors that Paul heard about Corinth, says Warren Throckmorton, a psychology professor at Grove City College in Pennsylvania who has studied the Bible's teachings on homosexuality. Bible scholars call it a "vice list," and it appears several times in Scripture.

So what does Paul's "vice list" say about homosexuality? That's the tricky part.

The first word Paul uses is "malakoi," which means "soft" in Greek, according to Allen. By analogy, the word came to mean "effeminate," which is how the King James Version of the Bible translates it.

"In the ancient world, it would refer to a boy in a relationship with an older man," Allen said. "It was pederasty, not homosexuality as we think of it today."

The other relevant word on Paul's "vice list" is "arsenokotai," which means "male sex." It refers to the other half in the man-boy relationship, common in Greece at the time, Allen said, the older male having sex with the "soft one."

"It isn't anything to do with what we would see today in an intimate, mutual relationship between gay adults," said Allen, who is co-authoring an upcoming book on homosexuality and heterosexuality in the church.

My Take: The Bible’s surprisingly mixed messages on sexuality

Even so, scholars such as Allen acknowledge there are no Bible passages that support same-sex relationships, and at least seven that appear to condemn gay sex.

"There's no way around the fact that those passages take a negative view of homosexuality, and nowhere in the Bible is a positive view offered," Allen said. "So conservatives and liberals continue to debate."

Liberals say that some parts of the Bible offered particular truths for a specific times and places but those times and places, as well as human understanding of sexuality, have progressed dramatically.

"The Bible may be divinely inspired, but its authors were human and saw, as St. Paul puts it, through a glass darkly," said Jim Naughton, a Christian gay rights activist and communications consultant. "On the subject of homosexuality, the Bible doesn’t mean what Phil Robertson thinks it means."

Conservatives such as Robertson, on the other hand, argue that the Bible is the bedrock of their faith, unchanging and unalterable. "We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word," the Robertson family said Thursday.

For decades, the gulf between the two sides has divided denominations, churches and families. To paraphrase Lincoln, both sides read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and both invoke his aid to argue against each other. Which is why our contemporary debate over homosexuality is so fierce, and so seemingly unending.

- CNN Religion Editor

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  1. Dyslexic doG

    Yesterday morning there was a knock at my door. A pleasant and enthusiastic young couple were there.

    John: "Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."

    Mary: "Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."

    Me: "Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who's Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?"

    John: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the guts out of you."

    Me: "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"

    John: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."

    Me: "That doesn't make any sense. Why..."

    Mary: "Who are you to question Hank's gift? Don't you want a million dollars? Isn't it worth a little kiss on the ass?"

    Me: "Well maybe, if it's legit, but..."

    John: "Then come kiss Hank's ass with us."

    Me: "Do you kiss Hank's ass often?"

    Mary: "Oh yes, all the time..."

    Me: "And has He given you a million dollars?"

    John: "Well no. You don't actually get the money until you leave town."

    Me: "So why don't you just leave town now?"

    Mary: "You can't leave until Hank tells you to, or you don't get the money, and He kicks the guts out of you."

    Me: "Do you know anyone who kissed Hank's ass, left town, and got the million dollars?"

    John: "My mother kissed Hank's ass for years. She left town last year, and I'm sure she got the money."

    Me: "Haven't you talked to her since then?"

    John: "Of course not, Hank doesn't allow it."

    Me: "So what makes you think He'll actually give you the money if you've never talked to anyone who got the money?"

    Mary: "Well, maybe you'll get a raise, maybe you'll win a small lotto, maybe you'll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street."

    Me: "What's that got to do with Hank?"

    John: "In this town, Hank is the same as good luck. All good things are attributed to Hank'"

    Me: "I'm sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game."

    John: "But it's a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass He'll kick the guts out of you."

    Me: "Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from Him..."

    Mary: "No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank."

    Me: "Then how do you kiss His ass?"

    John: "Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl's ass, and he passes it on."

    Me: "Who's Karl?"

    Mary: "A friend of ours. He's the one who taught us all about kissing Hank's ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times."

    Me: "And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss His ass, and that Hank would reward you?"

    John: "Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here's a copy; see for yourself."

    From the Desk of Karl
    1. Kiss Hank's ass and He'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
    2. Use alcohol in moderation.
    3. Kick the guts out of people who aren't like you.
    4. Eat right.
    5. Hank dictated this list Himself.
    6. The moon is made of green cheese.
    7. Everything Hank says is right.
    8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
    9. Don't use alcohol.
    10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
    11. Kiss Hank's ass or He'll kick the guts out of you.

    Me: "This appears to be written on Karl's letterhead."

    Mary: "Hank didn't have any paper."

    Me: "I have a hunch that if we checked we'd find this is Karl's handwriting."

    John: "Of course, Hank dictated it."

    Me: "I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?"

    Mary: "Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people."

    Me: "I thought you said He was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the guts out of people just because they're different?"

    Mary: "It's what Hank wants, and Hank's always right."

    Me: "How do you figure that?"

    Mary: "Item 7 says 'Everything Hank says is right.' That's good enough for me!"

    Me: "Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up."

    John: "No way! Item 5 says 'Hank dictated this list himself.' Besides, item 2 says 'Use alcohol in moderation,' Item 4 says 'Eat right,' and item 8 says 'Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.' Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too."

    Me: "But 9 says 'Don't use alcohol.' which doesn't quite go with item 2, and 6 says 'The moon is made of green cheese,' which is just plain wrong."

    John: "There's no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you've never been to the moon, so you can't say for sure."

    Me: "Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock..."

    Mary: "But they don't know if the rock came from the Earth, or from out of space, so it could just as easily be green cheese."

    Me: "I'm not really an expert, but not knowing where the rock came from doesn't make it plausible that it might be made of cheese."

    John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists don’t know everything, but we know Hank is always right!"

    Me: "We do?"

    Mary: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."

    Me: "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"

    John: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."

    Me: "But...oh, never mind.

    from Jhuger.com

    December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • Jeff

      WoW! That little BARF of a comment you put there, really stop the flow of other comments. With that said. I APPROVE THE OPINIONS OF PHIL!

      December 20, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
  2. joe

    Another attempt by anticheistian cnn against Bible. These things should happen in this era.. If you read book of daniel. cnn is just a medium for that

    December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • lunchbreaker


      December 20, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
  3. Extremely Moderate

    This man compared h.m.s.x.uality, b.ast.al1ty and promiscuity among straight people. Why am I not offended even though I have been promiscuous? It is because I read the whole sentence and also am not trying to to be offended.

    I dont agree with this man, but I dont see why it is wrong for him to disagree with me.

    The people claiming offense are the people who often call for the protection of their rights and beliefs, so why is it that they think this man should be condemned for his belief?

    If I lost my job for stating my belief when it was asked of me, that sounds like oppression to me.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
  4. Dyslexic doG

    Jesus was just David Koresh 2000 years earlier. A sociopathic conman with a good story and lots of charisma. All this foolishness, without a shred of proof, has sprung up from there.

    utter, mind numbing nonsense.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
    • the freak

      are you serious!!! you will probably be the one on your death bed asking too see a pastor for forgiveness..

      December 20, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
    • voiceoftruthusa

      And Jesus Christ loves you enough to die on the cross so you can be forgiven such foolish comments whenever you're ready to repent 🙂

      December 20, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
  5. Mr. Zero

    That is one thing that is nice about the Bible...It is out there for our interpretation...anyone who thinks that they know the true meaning of word of God, needs a little bit of an eye opener with the Big Guy!

    December 20, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
    • voiceoftruthusa

      Nah, Jesus Christ came so that we can receive the Holy Spirit of Wisdom to understand the mysteries of the Lord's plan for mankind. He did a good job. Try seeking the Lord in humility and ask Him for such wisdom, and He will grant it unto thee.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
  6. ss

    Aren't Christians idolaters. Don't they bow to the likeness of God, Jesus and the heavens?

    December 20, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
    • Jeff

      Sometimes I do watch the TV show American Idol, but really thats about it.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
    • Text 101

      God told the Israelite not to have images or serve them. Ex. 20:3 Some churches to day ignore that prohibition and what 1 John 5:21 indicates.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
  7. Jeff

    A Knights Oath ( from the movie Kingdom of Heaven ) Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong. That is your oath. Phil, you did good. I wish you a Merry Christmas you and yours, God Bless you all!

    December 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
  8. Dyslexic doG

    please tell me how can you possibly speak about "what jesus said"?!?!

    The King James version of the new testament was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the church of England. There were (and still are) NO original texts to translate. The oldest manuscripts we have were written down 100's of years after the last apostle died. There are over 8,000 of these old manuscripts with no two alike. The king james translators used none of these anyway. Instead they edited previous translations to create a version their king and parliament would approve. So.... 21st century christians believe the "word of god" is a book edited in the 17th century from the 16th century translations of 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st century.

    So we don't even know if the jesus character existed, much less what he may or may not have said.

    Seriously?! Claiming that jesus said certain phrases is utter mind numbing nonsense, and yet you seem to base your belief on this! Your belief has more holes in it than swiss cheese! It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
    • RB

      “The King James version of the new testament was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the church of England.”

      Provide your source for that, then we’ll talk.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
      • Extremely Moderate

        He's just shooting his mouth off while only half informed. The new testament was originally pieced together by the Roman catholic church more than a thousand years before the King James version was re-interpreted.

        If he wants to have beef with the bible, thats fine, but know the facts: It was a few books selected out of hundreds of iterations floating around which were mostly written on papyrus scrolls. Said scrolls have been translated so many times that the meaning could easily be warped.

        As for is it dumb for people to follow a faith whose logic you perceive as flawed? I for one cant judge them for that since faith by definition never claims to be fact. Nor do I think anyone is dumb for not believing. Most of all, I don't care. What you believe is not my business.

        December 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
      • Text 101

        He is correct, at least in part. There where a little over 40 men involved and King James gave them instructions NOT to deviate from the then existing Bishop's Bible used by the church of England. Wikipedia has the whole thing explained. Go look it up. Lastly, there where several Bibles available at the time the bishops used. By the way which Bible do you think German, Italian etc. Christians use. I bet it's not the JK.

        December 20, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • bhanson

      if u dont beleive in Jesus, then dont be surprised when u discover that Jesus refuses to beleive in you.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
    • Text 101

      First off Jesus is an historical person Josephus and others support that. Look it up. Second. Many hundreds of manuscripts do agree in word and context and by comparing them to each other the original intent and texts can be discerned. That is how the text has been arrived at by most modern bible translation committees.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
  9. abbydelabbey

    He's a bigot - he has prejudices.

    Apparently he never got the message that Christ taught compassion.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
    • travis

      He judged the act, not the people

      December 20, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
      • Jeff

        BINGO! You nailed it!

        December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
    • voiceoftruthusa

      Define 'compassion' in this context. Is it acceptance? tolerance? both? Was Jesus compassionate with the hypocrisy of the Pharisees? Is He compassionate with those who lead His little ones astray?

      December 20, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
  10. quack

    Bronze age quackery from human swamp dwellers. Ironically, the mere existence of these people challenge Darwin.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
    • Ram

      Well, Robertson can likely buy and sell you, so whatever makes you feel better today ("human swamp dwellers").

      December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
  11. devin

    Dismiss the Bible as mythology, attribute it to ancient goat herders, call it the work of non- enlightened simpletons, whatever, but please don't try to manipulate the hermeneutics to fit your immorality.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
    • Doris

      If it were not being manipulated – then why are tens of thousands of religious sects – often claiming the others to be invalid? Why shouldn't I just pick that Xtian sect in Mexico City that still sacrifices people?

      December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
      • Doris

        (if the hermeneutics were not being manipulated all over the place all the time)

        December 20, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
      • mucklucky

        Great decision!

        December 20, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
      • devin

        Why so many religious sects? Because human beings are in a constant pursuit of understanding epistemology and metaphysics. I agree there is every ideology under the rainbow out there, but that fact alone does not negate the possibility that there actually IS only one correct path. This argument from multiplicity is lacking. As for the tangents within christianity, whenever the biblical literature is not interpreted with its historical, grammatical context, loose canons will appear.

        December 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
  12. John H Cormier

    The bible says "this"...the bible says "that"....but you know what...A ROSE BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A "ROSE".....!
    .......Thanking you in advance for your anticipated cooperation......JHC.....!

    December 20, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
  13. Jimmy Moore

    Okay, if you don't like the Bible version regarding men sleeping with men, how about just using plain common sense and the natural procreation of the species; DUH!

    December 20, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • Doris

      Read last December's Quarterly Review of Biology. DUH!

      December 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
  14. Call Me Crazy

    athiests rebel, Gays struggle, left wing tries to soften the blow, and most everyone who doesn't believe want to find flaw or fault in the Bible. Jesus says in end times Men will be lovers of self. Whether you are a believer or not, we shouldn't judge....but be there if you're willing to listen, there's a draw to you from the spirit. We were not conceived in some big bang, we were created. Heavens and the earth, Man and Woman for Man, without it you cannot conceive...pro create. Judge not..whoever said that..you're correct. You don't want to beleive..ok, you want to live your way...ok, just seems lately a Christian has the need to explain his or herself...no..no we don't, we only have to explain to the Lord. I do not wish to go through life unthankful forthe gift that was given in Love, and I don't want to spend time arguing about it to someone who isn't called by the holy spirit. Christianity speaks volumes across the world for Mission works, helping hands, beautiful feet ministry, and Loving and caring people doing what God ask's of us.....those that you argue with or claim throw verses at you, and you dislike the insinuation, or disagree withthe verse...or maybe it wasn't quoted right? Move on wit hyour life..apparently you have no problems to sort...I do...I need help..I sin...but ...I am saved because he shown grace, and we have salvation. I resent when someone has to try and squelch a Christian for speaking up...kinda the same as you when someone says something you don't care for..?

    December 20, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      how can you possibly speak about "what jesus said"?!?!

      The King James version of the new testament was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the church of England. There were (and still are) NO original texts to translate. The oldest manuscripts we have were written down 100's of years after the last apostle died. There are over 8,000 of these old manuscripts with no two alike. The king james translators used none of these anyway. Instead they edited previous translations to create a version their king and parliament would approve. So.... 21st century christians believe the "word of god" is a book edited in the 17th century from the 16th century translations of 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st century.

      So we don't even know if the jesus character existed, much less what he may or may not have said.

      Seriously?! Claiming that jesus said certain phrases is utter mind numbing nonsense, and yet you seem to base your belief on this! Your belief has more holes in it than swiss cheese! It would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
    • Jay

      YOUR NOT CRAZY...your right on the money...nice complete analogy, I was was going to comment on the article, but you covered it. Good to know true wisdom comes from God, everything else is a ego based delusion to stroke ones ego...once you realize God is real, your world becomes alive...your eyes open, and you witness God everywhere...at that point you think, what a fool I was to doubt God, but then again we were all fools at one time...

      December 20, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
  15. Dyslexic doG

    the duck man is part of the Christian Taliban. look at the picture ... he even looks like mujahedeen.

    the Christians are trying to turn this amazing country into a theocracy. this is what worried the founding fathers!

    December 20, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
    • Lynndel

      Actually, they mimic him.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
      • Dyslexic doG

        ahhh ... that explains it

        December 20, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
    • abbydelabbey

      All the righteous reich wingers are out supporting him - for what? All he did was show that he is a bigot ...

      He can say what he wants, but his worldview is very unhealthy.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
  16. Crushinator

    Another logical fallacy, That in a world 4 billion years old of which Humans have only been around for a few ten thousand years, this is the apex of civilization. Our civilization could have risen and fallen hundreds of thousands of times over in this history. I will not even get into the skeletal remains of giant humanoids, and ancient engineering feats we could not even duplicate today....the obvious evidence points to something currently outside our understanding of history and the natural world which has had a profound impact on our own civilization. The strange thing is that the bible mentions a flood, and we acknowledge a flood happened, the bible mentioned giant humans, and we have found the skeletons of humans, the bible mentions the earth is round, which we only started accepting in the last few hundred years. The bible mentions dinosaurs. A book written over 2 thousand years ago mentions dinosaurs and we only started finding their fossils a few hundred years ago...laugh all you want, but actually read the bible and see how much truth it offers as proof of its validity, and you simply cannot argue that it holds knowledge that no human could possibly have based on our current scientific understanding of history and time...period.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
    • Live4Him

      Another point – dino soft tissue. It has been determined scientifically that DNA (much less soft tissue) could only survive for 100,000 years. Yet, they've found dino soft tissue.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      you really are delusional on so many levels!

      December 20, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
    • Observer


      The Bible talks about unicorns, talking non-humans, bushes that burn without diminishing, dragons, people getting strength from their hair and people turning into salt. So much for being logical or accurate.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
      • Live4Him

        Dragons are dinosaurs.

        December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
        • Observer

          Which ones had multiple heads and spit fire?

          December 20, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
        • Doris

          Did you ever figure out how many stables Solomon had, L4H?

          December 20, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
      • Dargo

        Which "version" of the BIBLE you've read and when did you read it lately?

        December 20, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
      • Crushinator

        There are creatures described as unicorns which are not horse with horns, They are in the fossil record and while the name escapes me at this point you are debating semantics..... Your logic is that the bible is completely inaccurate because it describes supernatural events. That is about as big a logical fallacy as one could have, which I need not bother trying to explain, as you would discount it based on your current train of "logic"

        December 20, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
  17. Lynndel

    Definitely a queen Duck.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
  18. Joe Doakes

    The dude seems to be spending too much time thinking about men's anuses.

    December 20, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
    • Dargo

      You're talking about yourself, right?!

      December 20, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
  19. glauber

    Quit talking about this. A media outlet manufactures celebrities out of nothing and then pounces when one of them says something weird. Why do we sit around following foolishness like this?

    December 20, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
  20. Snafu

    Why did God create such a complicated religion, with a handbook that requires 'experts' to interpret it? Why should a poor, ignorant schmuck like me have to rely on 'experts?

    December 20, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
    • Live4Him

      The best way to deter people from following God is to distort what is written.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
      • Observer

        The best way to deter people from following God is often to READ the Bible. Many agnostics and atheists did that.

        December 20, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
        • travis

          They did that with a hateful, closed minded bigoted view point

          December 20, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
        • Observer


          Your complete lack of knowledge of what the Bible says about slavery shows how little you know about it.

          Why not read one and then come back?

          December 20, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
        • Live4Him

          So, why didn't you read it?

          December 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
        • somethingstellar

          "They did that with a hateful, closed minded bigoted view point"

          Suuuuure Travis, thats why it didn't make any sense. Repeatedly. over and over. EVERY one of them read it with a closed minded bigoted view point. SO CONVENIENT. Umm, perhaps you should just accept the fact that only idiots could read it or have it read to them, and buy any of it. Sorry the truth hurts but no amount of screaming "the earth is flat!" is going to actually make it flat. It just makes you stupid is all.

          December 20, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
      • Snafu

        You mean like the King James 'Version'? If it's a 'version' do you not believe that it has 'distortions'?

        December 20, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
        • kyzaadrao

          On this topic it doesn't matter what translation you use. Some are more clear, some less. They all say the same thing when you put all the scriptures on the topic together in any translation.

          December 20, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
    • krivka

      Because man created it. Only one of the most recent attempts to control minds. How can anybody believe in a god that is so impotent as ANY ever created and worshipped. Every attempt to address the latest God's shortcomings in grounded in "God's will. You may as well say God's so called "will" is chance. I have to shake my head when a survivor of a tragedy or a firefight in combat says..."God saved me." Meanwhile the neighbor in the fire who died praying to this omnipotent fraud was allowed to die and the grunt next to my friend had his head explode in a gory mess.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
    • laceydon

      You don't. Just read. All this quibbling over one verse or another ignores the easily understood basic instructions of the Bible. One such related to this topic is found in chapter 2 of the Bible (and which Jesus repeats): God made them male and female. And so a man should leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and they shall be one flesh. Crudely stated, God did not make Adam and Eric. He did not make Ann and Eve. He made Adam and Eve. That is God's pattern. Anything that deviates from it or perverts it is either rebellion or disregard of what it says. That is not difficult to grasp and seems equally obvious as you look at the bodies of those whom God created. What is difficult, it seems, is the willingness to accept it.

      This gives those who choose to live with God's instructions in view no license to condemn, for as Jesus said, those who judge will be subject to judgment themselves. But it does prevent us from stating the simple truth.

      As for me and my house, we choose to serve the Lord.

      December 20, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • voiceoftruthusa

      Who said you need an expert to understand the Gospel? Jesus Christ, who was born in the most humble of conditions, spoke very plainly, openly and freely to the masses. What's difficult about 'Love the Lord your God with all your mind heart and soul. And love your neighbor as you love yourself'? Or 'In the kingdom, there is neither Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female'? No need for interpretation (which is different from translation).

      December 20, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
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