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Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?
Phil Robertson of A&E's "Duck Dynasty" has been suspended for his comments on homosexuality.
December 20th, 2013
11:23 AM ET

Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - The Robertson family of "Duck Dynasty" fame has rallied around its patriarch, saying his controversial comments on homosexuality are "grounded in the teachings of the Bible." But Scripture is fiercely contested ground, and some experts say Phil Robertson misinterprets a key Bible verse.

A&E, the network that broadcasts the hugely popular "Duck Dynasty" show, suspended Robertson for a now infamous interview with GQ magazine. In the article, Robertson, who became a born-again Christian in the 1970s after a prodigal youth, is asked to define "sin."

Here's what Robertson says: “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

Robertson, 67, then paraphrases a Bible passage from the New Testament: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers - they won’t inherit the kingdom of God.”

That's a pretty close citation of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, which is a letter from Paul, often called the father of Christianity theology, to a fledgling Christian community in Corinth, Greece.

Here's what Paul's passage says, as rendered in the New International Version, by far the most popular translation among evangelicals and conservative Christians such as Robertson:

"Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Evangelicals, who make up about a quarter of the U.S. population, tend to take that passage at face value. The Robertson family pastor, for instance, told CNN on Thursday that "the verse explains itself."

Robertson himself is no religious neophyte. He's an elder in the White's Ferry Road Church of Christ and offers spiritual counseling, charity and Bible studies to many in his hometown of West Monroe, Louisiana, the family pastor, Mike Kellett told CNN.

The "Duck Dynasty" star also preaches around the country to conservatives that flock to hear his blend of woodsy, plainspoken Christianity.

Many conservatives backed Robertson's views on Scripture and homosexuality this week, if not the "crude" way he argued his point to GQ.

My Take: The Bible really does condemn homosexuality

But other Bible experts said the Scripture Robertson cited isn't quite clear about homosexuality.

"A lot of people misread this text because it's so complicated," said O. Wesley Allen Jr., an associate professor at Lexington Theological Seminary in Kentucky.

First, scholars say, we have to look at the context surrounding Paul's letter.

The Christian leader is trying to get the quarreling Corinthians to stop taking each other to civil courts and being judgmental. "The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already," Paul says.

Things were supposed to be different after they became Christian believers, Paul continues; they were supposed to stop their sinful ways.

Then Paul lists some of their sins of the past, including greed, drinking too much, worshipping idols and sexual immorality. "That is what some of you were," Paul says. "But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

The list of sins is likely based on rumors that Paul heard about Corinth, says Warren Throckmorton, a psychology professor at Grove City College in Pennsylvania who has studied the Bible's teachings on homosexuality. Bible scholars call it a "vice list," and it appears several times in Scripture.

So what does Paul's "vice list" say about homosexuality? That's the tricky part.

The first word Paul uses is "malakoi," which means "soft" in Greek, according to Allen. By analogy, the word came to mean "effeminate," which is how the King James Version of the Bible translates it.

"In the ancient world, it would refer to a boy in a relationship with an older man," Allen said. "It was pederasty, not homosexuality as we think of it today."

The other relevant word on Paul's "vice list" is "arsenokotai," which means "male sex." It refers to the other half in the man-boy relationship, common in Greece at the time, Allen said, the older male having sex with the "soft one."

"It isn't anything to do with what we would see today in an intimate, mutual relationship between gay adults," said Allen, who is co-authoring an upcoming book on homosexuality and heterosexuality in the church.

My Take: The Bible’s surprisingly mixed messages on sexuality

Even so, scholars such as Allen acknowledge there are no Bible passages that support same-sex relationships, and at least seven that appear to condemn gay sex.

"There's no way around the fact that those passages take a negative view of homosexuality, and nowhere in the Bible is a positive view offered," Allen said. "So conservatives and liberals continue to debate."

Liberals say that some parts of the Bible offered particular truths for a specific times and places but those times and places, as well as human understanding of sexuality, have progressed dramatically.

"The Bible may be divinely inspired, but its authors were human and saw, as St. Paul puts it, through a glass darkly," said Jim Naughton, a Christian gay rights activist and communications consultant. "On the subject of homosexuality, the Bible doesn’t mean what Phil Robertson thinks it means."

Conservatives such as Robertson, on the other hand, argue that the Bible is the bedrock of their faith, unchanging and unalterable. "We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word," the Robertson family said Thursday.

For decades, the gulf between the two sides has divided denominations, churches and families. To paraphrase Lincoln, both sides read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and both invoke his aid to argue against each other. Which is why our contemporary debate over homosexuality is so fierce, and so seemingly unending.

- CNN Religion Editor

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  1. Jeff

    Protestants use a revised version of the bible created for them by Martin Luther during the so-called "reformation." The version they use is not one that even existed during the early church period. Its "old testament" was developed between the 6th and 9th centuries AD. So for them to claim that they have access to "unalterable truth" is bunk. They alter their "truth" whenever it suits their contemporary political agendas.

    December 22, 2013 at 6:04 am |
    • PreacherMan

      That is so off-based & untrue it is almost laughable. You're either trolling or greatly uninformed.

      December 22, 2013 at 6:07 am |
      • biggerdawg

        Both.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:54 am |
    • Opposing View

      Jeff...

      MYTH: The bible has been modified or tampered with…

      FACT: Although false bibles do exist today (courtesy of Lucifer, in an attempt to deceive you), the real true bible still exists today. The original scriptures and original manuscripts has never been altered. God would never allow it. The following confirms this fact:

      Matthew 5:18 – (Jesus speaking) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one ti-ttle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled…

      In the above scripture, Jesus is saying that both heaven and earth would pass away before he would allow even a single jot (the dot at the end of a sentence) or one ti-ttle (the short line that crosses the letter "t") to change in the law (the word of God). God would never allow it. Yes, false bibles do exist, but the original "unmodified" scriptures also still exits, and shall always exist. God only needs a single copy of the original scriptures to fulfill his will. He don't need a thousand. Jesus further confirms this by saying…

      Luke 16:17 – (Jesus speaking) And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one ti-ttle of the law to fail…

      Luke 21:33 – (Jesus speaking) Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words (the scriptures and word of God) shall not pass away…

      The original scriptures will forever exist, and will exist long after both heaven and earth have passed away. People who say the bible has been tampered with have no truth…

      December 22, 2013 at 6:52 am |
      • Reality # 2

        Only for the those interested in a religious update:

        1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

        “New Torah For Modern Minds

        Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

        Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

        The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “
        prob•a•bly

        Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

        2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

        Note: Matt 5:18, Luke 16:7 and Luke 21:33 fail rigorous historic testing and therefore are scripturally nil. Added details are available upon written request.

        The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

        earlychristianwritings.com/

        For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

        Current RCC problems:

        Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

        2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

        Current problems:
        Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

        December 22, 2013 at 7:00 am |
        • Will

          Stop trying to use facts when debating religious zealots. I, however, enjoyed reading your post.

          December 22, 2013 at 7:26 am |
      • Will

        As soon as I saw that you referenced Lucifer in your "Fact" section I stopped reading. I stopped believing in the tooth fairy and Santa at around the age of 8 and stopped believing in the lies of religion shortly after that.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:20 am |
        • dasilva

          When atheists can't admit they have nothing to back up their claims they turn to the fairy tale argument. Everything you own had a designer and so did you. The vast majority of the world knows something you don't know and you're trying to tell us we don't know it. Come on, Will. It's laughable.

          December 22, 2013 at 7:42 am |
        • biggerdawg

          But you're still an abrasive, confrontational ignoramus. Your not what anyone really wants to be so your sales pitch doesn't match the reality of you. Get out.

          December 22, 2013 at 7:56 am |
      • david mann

        Excuse me, but if "Heaven passes away" what happens to all the inhabitants therein?

        December 22, 2013 at 7:32 am |
      • Opposing View

        "Reality #2", "Will"...

        The scriptures state that – "fools hate knowledge". After reading your crazy replies, I believe it…

        Proverbs 1:22 – the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge…

        December 22, 2013 at 8:02 am |
        • Science Works

          OV and 8 month old BABIES know more than YOU !

          No Bible needed for morals !

          Research shows babies have a moral compass: Children want to see wrongdoing punished at 8 months old

          http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/12/research_shows_babies_have_a_moral_compass_children_want_to_see_wrongdoing.html

          MerryCchristmas and Happy New Year !

          December 22, 2013 at 8:06 am |
        • Will

          Reason and facts are never a strong point with religious zealots. Keep believing in your magical bearded white man who lives in the sky and your bible that is filled with lies, falsehoods, bigotry, and hatred. I will stick to reason, facts, and science.

          December 22, 2013 at 8:14 am |
        • Opposing View

          "Science Works", "Will"…

          Yes, we're well aware that "fools hate knowledge". So why do you guys keep confirming that fact…

          December 22, 2013 at 8:53 am |
        • Science Works

          Wow OV

          Evolution is true – no bible required !

          December 22, 2013 at 9:27 am |
      • Vader

        Yep. And all written in English.

        December 22, 2013 at 8:51 am |
  2. PreacherMan

    It is interesting to support author's position that one must explain away the obvious meaning of several texts, ignore the absence of positive support (which to his credit, the author acknowledges), and do some fancy, speculative interpretive footwork.

    One of the basic rules of exegesis is default to the plain meaning of the text. The opposite, eisegesis (reading one's preference or presuppositions into the text) is always considered poor scholarship. Certainly this must be done to arrive at this position.

    You either believe the Bible or you don't, but we really don't have the freedom if we believe the Bible to twist it to say what supports whatever cultural twist & turn we live in.

    Regardless, God loves you. Seek the truth and the truth will find you. Peace!

    December 22, 2013 at 5:44 am |
  3. don0011

    ****Correction of what my last statement. The bible also says, instead "in the end times" the following:
    people will say what is good, evil and what is evil, good. It be interesting the people who read my comments here, which way they will go? That is in Isiah 5:20

    December 22, 2013 at 5:31 am |
    • mccainin4

      Your point is well taken. End times would be most welcomed when hope, charity and compassion are criminalized, and there's an acceptance to do violence against those whom can't defend themselves.

      A monogamous relationship seems so very minor, paired against the thievery, shamefully deceitful acts of some of out most upstanding citizens. Let those, without sin, cast not only the first stone.

      December 22, 2013 at 5:47 am |
    • sam stone

      Wow, the end times. Luckily, no one has ever predicted that before

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

      Why do you feel that what iron age man felt was good or bad has any relevance to the 21st century?

      Consider what your grandparents thought was good or bad. Do you agree with them? Do you think you would agree with their grandparents, or their grandparents, or their grandparents? That is 8 generations. The bible was written perhaps 100 generations ago.

      Every generation likes to think the next generation is less moral. Change is scary, tradition provides a sense of (false) security.

      What agrarian living in the fertile crescent 2000 years ago felt was moral is no more valid to the 21st century than what we feel now would be applicable two thousand years in the future (if we do not destroy ourselves)

      Like it or not, morality DOES change

      If you want to pull out the line "GOD doesn't change", I will ask you why you feel that way. Because it is written in a book?

      Written by fallible man? Translated by fallible man? Edited by fallible man?

      Doesn't the "New Convenant" represent a change in "god"?

      December 22, 2013 at 6:05 am |
      • Joe Cool

        So do I go with Sam Stone's opinion or a book that has stood the test of time. Hmmmm?

        December 22, 2013 at 6:53 am |
        • sam stone

          So, none if it is opinion. It is written succinctly enough that there is only one christian church. Right, Joe Fool?

          December 22, 2013 at 10:00 am |
  4. don0011

    It also says in the end times, people will say what is good, evil and what is evil, good. It be interesting the people who read my comments here, which way they will go?

    December 22, 2013 at 5:18 am |
  5. GIANCARLO

    So we should let anyone speak negatively about any race, let them use the N word for blacks, as long as he believes in Jesus and the Bible, then it's ok. Give me a break. Or let me understand this, God made Gays as they are, then he condemns them to Hell because of how they turned out? I mean, I don't have no PHD, yet I can understand that anything can go wrong in the womb while that child is being created. Are people so stupid not to understand that????????

    December 22, 2013 at 4:54 am |
  6. Krod

    The very worst thing about the internet are websites like Wikipedia combined with the copy and paste function. Everyone is an expert on everything.

    December 22, 2013 at 4:37 am |
    • Krod

      Please just give your opinion without quoting an ancient Hebrew text you just googled

      December 22, 2013 at 4:39 am |
  7. nic beumer

    So I think this is pointless let the man think what he thinks and move on with your own lives! That is Phil's right as an American to think and say what he wants. The fact that's how he depicts the bible then let him billions of people read the bible and read it that way. Just let Phil be phil and move on let him back on his show! Phil your awsome

    December 22, 2013 at 4:21 am |
    • Damocles

      While I agree that everyone can have their opinion on any topic, I also understand that there are consequences to what people say. If you say a person is a worthless piece of crap, you must expect that person to defend themselves.

      December 22, 2013 at 4:27 am |
    • Jeb

      Phil will continue to be Phil regardless of whether he has a tv show.

      In fact, because reality shows are largely scripted, my guess is that Phil will be more himself now than he has since the show began.

      December 22, 2013 at 4:57 am |
    • sweet jesus

      A man who was asked a question about his beliefs that are interpertations from the bible.My question is who is on trial here?If Phil Robertson is on trial for his belief in what the bible has said what crime has been committed?If the bible is on trial then let Phil Robertson back on Duck Dynasty.There is no hate speech coming from Phil Robertson' people who say this havent read the article.This is a reality show based on a Real person who happens to share real christian beliefs.Interesting that other reality so called stars who don't have family values are pure trash candy for the brain aren't persecuted like Phil Robertson.A&E DO YOU REALLY THINK THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO WATCH THIS PROGRAM ARE HAPPY YOU KICKED THE FATHER FIGURE OFF THE SHOW? THANKS FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH .SPINELESS COWARDS -SANTA ISN"T REAL KICK ME OFF THE SHOW! SOMEBODY AT A&E SHOULD BE FIRED-THIS WAS WRITTEN IN A MAGAZINE ,SHOULD PHIL HAVE LIED ABOUT HIS BELIEFS?A&E THIS ISN'T HATE SPEECH! WAKE UP!

      December 22, 2013 at 5:57 am |
      • sam stone

        freedom of speech does not apply to private organizations, sweet jeebus

        December 22, 2013 at 6:16 am |
  8. Winston5

    Unless he understands that it was written by politicians/clergy in the middle ages base on a myth floating around the Mediterranean for a thousand years before Christ's time, then yes, he and everyone else misunderstands the intention of the book. 🙂

    December 22, 2013 at 4:20 am |
  9. amishjihad

    Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword (Matthew 26:52, King James Version). In our "modern society" the "new" sword is, what most computer literate people have 24 hours a day at the end of their fingertips. The access to social media via a keyboard or touch pad. If that Duck guy decides to spew hatred in the name of Christianity or in this case "Paulinism" as the author points out then he should be prepared to take his lumps. What a coward this Duck person is, as many narrow minded Christians are today, picking and choosing Bible verses in defense of "their" self imposed hatred toward people and what "they" feel is proper Christian doctrine. Paul had his own selfish agenda and "made up things" that ran contrary to true Christianity as taught by Jesus. The real question here is. Does Christianity really want a hate spewing, duck killing, red neck from Louisiana teaching us what Christianity is all about, or should we seek out guidance from spiritual leaders like the new Pope? And for now a little insight from me, a self imposed nobody and an expert on nothing. About all of this duck killing. Do you truly believe as a Christian or perhaps a logical thinking person, that Jesus, the most perfect person that ever walked this earth and was without sin, would really kill and eat innocent little animals? So in closing if a person wishes to live their life by social media then perhaps, in the case of this Duck guy, should die by social media. I for one find all of this a little entertaining and really silly that Christians consider this Duck person a legitimate spokesperson for things Biblical.

    December 22, 2013 at 4:00 am |
    • Read Much???

      Please learn how to read and understand books made for adults. There are clearly recorded examples of Jesus eating meat, such as eating fish and eating the Passover Meal. You may have heard of the latter, it's commonly referred to at the Last Supper. You are much to ignorant of the subject to bash someone else.

      December 22, 2013 at 4:20 am |
      • amishjihad

        I said believe, not read. And yes there are many books written about Jesus his compassion for life, mercy for all creatures and abstaining from eating flesh. The bible is not the only defining source and account of Jesus' life. Assuming the bible is 00% accurate.

        December 22, 2013 at 5:39 am |
        • whozits

          There are numerous books written from various perspectives about everything under the sun and, on any given topic, each may contradict all the others. Because your chosen theologians say that Jesus was a vegan doesn't make it so. Jesus didn't start out to create Christianity; his intent was to bring sense back to Judaism. To paraphrase: it doesn't matter what goes into a man's mouth but what comes out of it. He didn't say the adulterer wasn't a sinner, he said that all persons are sinners without a right to pass judgment on the sins of others. He didn't say don't pay your taxes, he said give Caesar his due. He was offended by the greedy rich, the self-righteous, the judgmental, the exclusionists, the profiteers. He didn't believe that being a godly person meant one had to live an impoverished life (that was St. Francis, among others) and stated that poverty was an unsolvable problem but that generosity to one's fellow was essential. Most of the heroes of his parables were gentiles (Samaritans, for example,) tax collectors and the unclean (people who handled corpses or garbage are considered unclean in a number of religions, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism included.) But why do I bother when I know I am casting seed upon stone. Jesus was, first and last, a Jew.

          December 22, 2013 at 6:14 am |
    • Winston5

      That was cherrypicktastic!

      December 22, 2013 at 4:20 am |
    • lol??

      Hate Paul?? Wow, you lose so much! Here's what Peter had to say about Paul haters.

      2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

      December 22, 2013 at 4:57 am |
    • amishjihad

      whozits, since I can't reply, to a reply, to a reply I'll write it here and see if you see it. Everything you say I agree with 100%. Yes Jesus was a Jew. What sect of Judaism was he born into?

      December 22, 2013 at 6:49 am |
  10. Jeb

    The Bible is a book of fairytales written by a bunch of bronze age goat herders.

    Any modern person who lives their life by such a book is suffering from a mental illness called religion.

    December 22, 2013 at 3:58 am |
    • Tim

      Jeb, you are exactly right. Thanks for saying it so succinctly. I wish everyone could let go of the fantasy of the invisible man in the sky. The one that created us, so that we could worship him to keep him from killing us. How messed up is that. God is the ultimate narcissist.

      December 22, 2013 at 4:24 am |
    • buzz

      Intelligent souls should not allow their faith in spirit to be interpreted by religious nuts who adhere to a book of tall tales and outright lies. They should follow the spirit's messages directly, or just live by common decency and love for one another.

      December 22, 2013 at 5:26 am |
      • PreacherMan

        I'm sure that sounds enlightened to you, but it doesn't actually mean anything and isn't at all helpful to anyone seeking truth and/or spiritual guidance.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:54 am |
  11. lol??

    Max sayz,
    "Wasn't S&G destroyed because of the sin of greed? And inhospitality? Yes. Yes it was."

    You forgot a tidbit.
    Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

    December 22, 2013 at 3:57 am |
    • Winston5

      Was that before or after the War of the Ring? We're talking 3rd age here, yes?

      December 22, 2013 at 4:21 am |
  12. cristian

    the man has the right to get anything wrong, including the bible.
    What is happening to this country?????

    December 22, 2013 at 3:44 am |
    • dsm927

      No one is stopping him from getting things wrong- there's nothing "wrong with the country." Our media is simply reporting on the consequences involved when a TV celebrity goes off-script. He's revealed himself to be someone with strong and sometimes controversial feelings on some topics that have nothing to do with his show. His employer has every right to be concerned with his image and public opinion thereof. I had ZERO interest in his feelings on this aspect of culture; however, since he's chosen to come out as someone who is so focused on gay people, I've decided to NO LONGER watch this show. It's been ruined for me, and probably for millions of other people. Bad move on his behalf.

      December 22, 2013 at 5:19 am |
  13. Dr Tod Policandriotes

    Why are we wasting time and effort on this guy anyway? He already has his millions, just go away and preach to your kin.

    December 22, 2013 at 3:39 am |
  14. Jack

    I have another question. Are these loaded questions that CNN plasters on their front page a huge load of stinkin crap designed not to pursue truth but rather to plant seeds of doubt in order to get deceive the mist simple people amongst us? The answer is not just yes but Hell yea.

    December 22, 2013 at 3:39 am |
  15. Daws

    Desert nomads are the experts on these complex issues....

    December 22, 2013 at 3:33 am |
  16. alaskan1st

    Consider this......If thousands of scholars for thousand of years can't agree on what the bible says., how can you be so sure your interpretation is the one right one. It was written like the game of telegraph. Way too many translations for anyone here to know what it said.

    December 22, 2013 at 2:53 am |
    • BraveNewWhirled

      Wow. That's a very silly comment you made, alaskan1st. Based on your diction, I would interpret your assertion as intentionally deceptive because you seem intelligent enough to have researched the subject matter and have decided to deny established archaeological history. On the other hand, you could be just another idiot who believes whatever you're told. I have a feeling both are true. Check your oil.

      December 22, 2013 at 3:16 am |
      • S-3B Viking

        Whose "established" history...FF Bruce? or Israel Finkelstein? I'll wait while you get your oil changed...I hope you're at Pennzoil Express Lube...they offer a 10-minute change.

        December 22, 2013 at 3:23 am |
      • Imminent

        Consider your own drivel before berating another. There is no deception in what he stated. Even a simpleton like yourself should have understood what he had to say. What I read from Alaska's post is that the Bible is up for many different interpretations which is essentially correct. Quite a bit of the Bible can easily be taken out of context due to the era and social dynamics. Some people are literal and others much less complex. The only thing anyone can be sure of is that this CNN post bends and twists to support various self proclaimed religious spokesmen. Interpretation is subject to human error.

        December 22, 2013 at 3:41 am |
  17. thenakedpolitico

    your translation of greek is a lie,much like the arguments that attempt to make socrates and plato gay.you have twisted the words to fit your fascist liberalism..if you get a honest translation they mean no such thing...but don't believe me,go talk to a greek scholar!!!!!!!!!!!

    December 22, 2013 at 2:28 am |
    • Justin S.

      most scholars would agree with the analyst

      multiple biblical sources (Pauline and Johannine) use the same words referring to the widespread practice of pederasty known throughout the hellenistic world and well attested by greek and roman historians and in greek art surviving to this day

      the greek etymology is exactly as the article describes

      regarding the 'gayness' of the philosophers, you should probably look up the dialogue Phaedrus, which revolves around an attraction between Plato and a young, attractive, male student

      all this stuff is public domain, btw–you don't need a degree (but I've found it helpful)

      December 22, 2013 at 2:59 am |
  18. Rogue351

    The only reason pastors and bishops, etc pretend to "know" gods word as a fact is to make money for themselves. If you think otherwise you are simple. they use their interpretation of the bible to make money, nothing more. Or , they do it for there own salvation bringing more and more into a belief they have choose to believe is true when no one can really know. That is why organized religion is a scam for the people running it. The safe bet is to help your fellow man and not judge. Stop worrying about your own salvation and do good for everyone. Hate, discrimination does not further that cause.

    December 22, 2013 at 2:09 am |
  19. Rogue351

    Was this 2nd amendment violated ? NO. Not in the least his word are being debated today which means they got out to the masses. A&E in in no way responsible for his personal beleifes. They are in no way obligated to pay him for his personal beleifes. They produce a "SHOW". A&E in their best interest wants the show to make money. If the show is overly controversial they may not make money. That is why they suspend him. He still voiced his opinion of the bible. It in no way means he should be paid for his opinion because that is not what the show is about.

    December 22, 2013 at 1:54 am |
    • Cranky.

      1st Amendment. But I get your gist.

      December 22, 2013 at 1:56 am |
    • Israel #1

      The bible does not condon it... period!

      December 22, 2013 at 2:00 am |
      • Free Holiday Nuts

        Huh? Try again in English...

        December 22, 2013 at 2:03 am |
        • Rogue351

          Exactly.......... The bible way NOT written in English. Therefor you have no way of knowing it's true message. Thank you for proving the point .

          December 22, 2013 at 2:11 am |
      • reby

        the bible was written by man..and translated "god" knows how many times...you can twist that thing to suit almost any personel belief...and if you live your life by it you just as big of an idiot as phil..imo..and thats free speech..and if cnn wants to take down my post..that my friend is there right period.

        December 22, 2013 at 2:53 am |
        • dennis

          ITS SAD TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC YOU ARE IGNORANT OF.

          The LORD removed blockage out of my arteries, and saved me from quadruple bypass surgery.
          YOU DON'T KNOW HIM, BUT I AND MANY OTHERS DO.

          December 22, 2013 at 4:38 am |
      • sam stone

        bully for the bible

        December 22, 2013 at 6:24 am |
    • reby

      first off..i accidently reported you for abuse...hit the wrong thing my bad lol..second well said.a&e had every bit as much right to suspend him as he did to express his opinion.free sppech does not equal free of consequence.

      December 22, 2013 at 2:51 am |
  20. Sweet Baby Jeebus

    Godless CNN is going to tell us Phil Robertson got it wrong. Lolz!

    December 22, 2013 at 1:49 am |
    • Skarphace

      So everyone at CNN is godless? How about at Fox? Are they ok? I ask because I wouldn't want to be unduly influenced by anybody that you consider godless.

      December 22, 2013 at 1:54 am |
    • Rogue351

      You have it wrong if for one second you pretend to know what the first people had in their minds and hearts at the time they put pen to paper in regards of the bible. NO ONE knows for certain what they had in mind much less the motive of the person translating the words. It is insane to think you or anyone else knows. The only clear message that carries is be loving and kind to your fellow man. Any thing else is speculation. If for one second you think you know for certain you need to seek help because you are delusional. How are people suppose to make this world work if they are constantly fighting about religion ? What good comes from hate. wars or discrimination ? If you thin you have the answer you are wrong and only assume you know to satisfy your own personal desire to be "right " in the eyes of the lord. It is also self severing which is NOT a way into heaven.

      December 22, 2013 at 2:02 am |
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