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Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?
Phil Robertson of A&E's "Duck Dynasty" has been suspended for his comments on homosexuality.
December 20th, 2013
11:23 AM ET

Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - The Robertson family of "Duck Dynasty" fame has rallied around its patriarch, saying his controversial comments on homosexuality are "grounded in the teachings of the Bible." But Scripture is fiercely contested ground, and some experts say Phil Robertson misinterprets a key Bible verse.

A&E, the network that broadcasts the hugely popular "Duck Dynasty" show, suspended Robertson for a now infamous interview with GQ magazine. In the article, Robertson, who became a born-again Christian in the 1970s after a prodigal youth, is asked to define "sin."

Here's what Robertson says: “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

Robertson, 67, then paraphrases a Bible passage from the New Testament: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers - they won’t inherit the kingdom of God.”

That's a pretty close citation of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, which is a letter from Paul, often called the father of Christianity theology, to a fledgling Christian community in Corinth, Greece.

Here's what Paul's passage says, as rendered in the New International Version, by far the most popular translation among evangelicals and conservative Christians such as Robertson:

"Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Evangelicals, who make up about a quarter of the U.S. population, tend to take that passage at face value. The Robertson family pastor, for instance, told CNN on Thursday that "the verse explains itself."

Robertson himself is no religious neophyte. He's an elder in the White's Ferry Road Church of Christ and offers spiritual counseling, charity and Bible studies to many in his hometown of West Monroe, Louisiana, the family pastor, Mike Kellett told CNN.

The "Duck Dynasty" star also preaches around the country to conservatives that flock to hear his blend of woodsy, plainspoken Christianity.

Many conservatives backed Robertson's views on Scripture and homosexuality this week, if not the "crude" way he argued his point to GQ.

My Take: The Bible really does condemn homosexuality

But other Bible experts said the Scripture Robertson cited isn't quite clear about homosexuality.

"A lot of people misread this text because it's so complicated," said O. Wesley Allen Jr., an associate professor at Lexington Theological Seminary in Kentucky.

First, scholars say, we have to look at the context surrounding Paul's letter.

The Christian leader is trying to get the quarreling Corinthians to stop taking each other to civil courts and being judgmental. "The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already," Paul says.

Things were supposed to be different after they became Christian believers, Paul continues; they were supposed to stop their sinful ways.

Then Paul lists some of their sins of the past, including greed, drinking too much, worshipping idols and sexual immorality. "That is what some of you were," Paul says. "But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

The list of sins is likely based on rumors that Paul heard about Corinth, says Warren Throckmorton, a psychology professor at Grove City College in Pennsylvania who has studied the Bible's teachings on homosexuality. Bible scholars call it a "vice list," and it appears several times in Scripture.

So what does Paul's "vice list" say about homosexuality? That's the tricky part.

The first word Paul uses is "malakoi," which means "soft" in Greek, according to Allen. By analogy, the word came to mean "effeminate," which is how the King James Version of the Bible translates it.

"In the ancient world, it would refer to a boy in a relationship with an older man," Allen said. "It was pederasty, not homosexuality as we think of it today."

The other relevant word on Paul's "vice list" is "arsenokotai," which means "male sex." It refers to the other half in the man-boy relationship, common in Greece at the time, Allen said, the older male having sex with the "soft one."

"It isn't anything to do with what we would see today in an intimate, mutual relationship between gay adults," said Allen, who is co-authoring an upcoming book on homosexuality and heterosexuality in the church.

My Take: The Bible’s surprisingly mixed messages on sexuality

Even so, scholars such as Allen acknowledge there are no Bible passages that support same-sex relationships, and at least seven that appear to condemn gay sex.

"There's no way around the fact that those passages take a negative view of homosexuality, and nowhere in the Bible is a positive view offered," Allen said. "So conservatives and liberals continue to debate."

Liberals say that some parts of the Bible offered particular truths for a specific times and places but those times and places, as well as human understanding of sexuality, have progressed dramatically.

"The Bible may be divinely inspired, but its authors were human and saw, as St. Paul puts it, through a glass darkly," said Jim Naughton, a Christian gay rights activist and communications consultant. "On the subject of homosexuality, the Bible doesn’t mean what Phil Robertson thinks it means."

Conservatives such as Robertson, on the other hand, argue that the Bible is the bedrock of their faith, unchanging and unalterable. "We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word," the Robertson family said Thursday.

For decades, the gulf between the two sides has divided denominations, churches and families. To paraphrase Lincoln, both sides read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and both invoke his aid to argue against each other. Which is why our contemporary debate over homosexuality is so fierce, and so seemingly unending.

- CNN Religion Editor

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  1. Chuck

    Those who are not tolerant of others views are the most offended when someone criticise their own.

    December 22, 2013 at 9:11 am |
    • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

      Be careful not to confuse the need to respect someone's right to hold views and opinions contrary to yours, with the need to respect the CONTENT of someone else's views and opinions. There is NO obligation to respect the content of someone else's views and opinions.

      December 22, 2013 at 9:18 am |
  2. cptwayne

    Phil Robertson knows the true intent of the scriptures and is correct. It is this article that is tap dancing and trying to divert one's attention away from the truth by splitting hairs.

    December 22, 2013 at 9:06 am |
    • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

      Now, aren't the scriptures the word of god? So, one would think that only god knows exactly what god's intent was was god caused the scriptures to be written. Yet you are claiming that a mortal man knows what god's intent was. In fact, you are claiming that you, too, know what god's intent was because you can recognize when someone else knows what god's true intent was.

      So, in a nutshell, you are claiming to know the mind of god. You. You know what the creator of the universe was intending.

      Wow – if that's not delusional I really don't know what is.

      Okay – could you please explain god's intent when god said, in Leviticus, that rabbits chew their cud? or that bats are birds? You would think that god, who created bats, would know that they are mammals, not birds. Or that rabbits aren't ruminants.

      December 22, 2013 at 9:15 am |
      • Will

        Most Christians have not studied the bible enough in great detail to know the absurdities in it. This is probably news to them and they will say you are taking it out of context or a host of other excuses that Christian apologists use. If they had studied the bible in detail then they would most likely be Atheists or Agnostics.

        December 22, 2013 at 9:24 am |
        • Counterww

          bs.. I have studied it and hold a graduate degree. Only fools,think there is not a creator.

          December 22, 2013 at 10:17 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          @counterww: You studied the bible? Good. You have a graduate degree. Fine. I've studied the bible. I have a graduate degree. So what? There's no logical connection between your statement and your subsequent comment about the existence of a creator. A cheap appeal to authority, perhaps?

          What do you mean by the term "creator" and what evidence do you have to support the existence of a creator?

          December 22, 2013 at 11:00 am |
    • Brian

      Wow, that's great. Can you also solve for us the mystery of Easter Island, who really shot JFK, and where Waldo really is?

      December 22, 2013 at 9:20 am |
  3. cptwayne

    Phil Robertson is correct. It's this article that is trying to tap dance away from the truth.

    December 22, 2013 at 9:03 am |
  4. achepotle

    We want our hillbillies swilling moonshine, making funny faces and doing a jig for our amusement....not pontificating.

    December 22, 2013 at 8:48 am |
  5. K

    I have a relationship with my creator and savior. I know three things to be true, 1 all sin is equal in God's eyes, 2 only God can judge anyone's sin, and 3 Love Him and love others are the two greatest commandments and that's my goal.

    December 22, 2013 at 8:35 am |
    • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

      You mean you very sincerely believe these things to be true. However, the sincerity and honesty of your belief is in no way tied to the "truth" of what you say. I can fervently, honestly believe the sun revolves around the Earth, and I can say that in my heart I know it to be true, but – it doesn't make it true. The "truth" of something exists independently of what someone else hopes or believes to be the truth.

      December 22, 2013 at 8:43 am |
      • jeff

        Free speech, is a right that we have, someone can put you in a corner and ask you a question. If you don't what it is going to be you do the best you can to tell it or lie about it. He was only speaking from his heart, he didn't have time to look it up, or google it, and it might not be perfect, but the basics are true. He might not have been exact by some stupid standard, but he was right in his heart and all you people that say this is a bad thing are wrong. How can you put this man on trial for giving his point of view? God bless Phil Robertson.

        December 22, 2013 at 8:54 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          He was "right in his heart"? What does that mean? Sure, he may sincerely believe, based on his interpretation of a book, that ho-mos-exuality is bad or evil. The fact that he is sincere in his belief doesn't make his belief any less bigoted and abhorrent and hateful. And saying that his belief is supported by a 2000 year old book doesn't make his belief any less bigoted and abhorrent and hateful either.

          December 22, 2013 at 9:00 am |
      • Vince

        The problem with you example with the sun revolving around the earth is that you could never honestly and fervently believe it, because no matter how much you try to convince yourself you know that it is in fact false.

        December 22, 2013 at 9:02 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          Tell that to the religious leaders of a few hundred years ago – it was religious dogma that the sun revolved around the earth. The reason I could never believe it today is because of the enormous wealth of scientific evidence showing that the earth revolves around the sun. Now, if there was an enormous wealth of scientific evidence that a god exists, then I would probably believe it. However, there isn't a shred of scientific proof that a god – any god – exists. None. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

          December 22, 2013 at 9:21 am |
    • Will

      So you are saying you are an idiot?

      December 22, 2013 at 8:59 am |
    • sam stone

      K: confusing knowledge with belief? don't worry, it is a common delusion among the savior's followers

      December 22, 2013 at 9:05 am |
  6. George

    Man's passion for analysis and discussion covers the purity of the Buddha nature.

    December 22, 2013 at 8:31 am |
  7. Opposing View

    Truth Cometh From God, And Not From the Devil. All The Devil Is Offering You Is Lies…

    The very first question every person should ask themselves before listening to or believing anything anyone says about the bible, especially concerning the interpretation of the scriptures, is: "Is that person saved?" and "Are they saved according to scripture? (see Acts 2:38). Yes or No. If the answer to that question is "No", then you should in no wise believe that person, because the information they're telling you is of the devil. It is not of God. And it will lead your soul to hell. As proof, the scriptures say, "To the defiled are all things defiled. And even their mind and conscious is defiled". No sinner, no matter how truthful they may sound, has ever spoken the truth in the history of being a sinner. That's because every word they say is defiled. Their mind is defiled. Their conscious is defiled. The way they perceive things is defiled. To know the truth, you must get it from God. You must get it from someone who is already saved…

    And that is the very colossal mistake a lot of people make – they'll grab ahold of and accept information from anywhere – from Google, from Youtube, from News Outlets, from Scientific Reports, etc – and will cling to that information all because it's exactly what they want to hear (Lucifer is a master at telling people what they want to hear). But if the information is from the devil, it will lead your soul to hell. You have to make absolutely certain it is from God. And there is only one way to do that, and that's by getting it from a true source, from a true sent preacher. From someone who has been sent by God to tell you the truth. For God only works through his true sent preachers. He does not work through devils or sinners…

    Every day you'll see news commentators making statements about issues. They'll have invited guests making statements about issues. And people are lapping it up. But here's the problem with that. Those people you see are not saved. Those new commentators nor their invited guests, are not saved. They're not sent preachers, and nor do they represent God. In truth, they're working for Lucifer to deceive you. Lucifer controls the media, and long has. He controls it by controlling anyone who is not saved. And the owners of those media organizations are not saved. Therefore, Lucifer controls the media organizations. It's that simple. He regulates what you see and what you hear. And he will only put in front of you those things which will deceive you and send your soul to hell. He will never put the real truth on the news. He never has and he never will. All he will ever broadcast is lies. Yet, there you are lapping it up. But unbeknownst to you, you are in his snare, and on your way to hell…

    The question was asked, "Was the Duck Dynasty star right in what he said, that "gays shall not inherit the kingdom of God?" There are two ways I will answer that. First, the scriptures never contradict themselves. If you think a certain scripture means this or that, but then another scripture contradicts your understanding of it, then mayhap there is something wrong with your understanding of it, and maybe your understanding is false. For an example, in Leviticus 20:13, it says, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination". In that scripture, God is saying what he meant and he meant what he said. This is confirmed because there are other scriptures in the bible which support that same understanding. But when you try to change Leviticus and say it means something else, you'll then run into trouble because those other scriptures will contradict it. Which means, it is your own understanding that is the lie, it is your own understanding that is false. If any scripture contradicts your belief, then rest assured, it is your belief that is false. The scriptures are forever true…

    My second point is that, here is a scripture that addresses what the Duck Dynasty star said. 1 Corinthian 6:9 states: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind…" That word "effeminate" is actually referring to gays. The definition of "effeminate" means, "any man who displays the characteristics of a woman" or "any woman who displays the characteristics of a man" (that's God's definition and not Webster's definition, and only God's definition matters). That is what effeminate means. God can't stand that stuff and it turns his stomach. It is not natural and it is not of God. In all gay relationships, whenever two men are involved, one man is always trying to perform the s-e-xual functions of a woman. Whenever two women are involved, one woman is always trying to perform the s-e-xual functions of a man. That is what you are doing and you cannot deny it. Therefore, you are effeminate. God can't stand that stuff, and you shall in no wise inherit the kingdom of God…

    December 22, 2013 at 8:24 am |
    • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

      What was that line from Shrek, the one right in the intro, where he's reading the fairy tale, then says, "Thats a load of – " and flushes the toilet? Yeah.

      December 22, 2013 at 8:26 am |
      • Will

        That sums up my exact view on religion! Good stuff.

        December 22, 2013 at 8:52 am |
      • Dale

        Ah, Shrek and Hollywood. Excellent place to get truth and theology from. No wonder you are so smart, you have been studying at the feet of the great moral examples of our day.

        December 22, 2013 at 9:11 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          @ Dale: I much prefer the morality of the story of Shrek: friendship, looking past appearances to see the real person, and love, than the morality of the Bible, where genocide, ra-pe, child abuse and slavery is not only tolerated by ordered by your god.

          December 22, 2013 at 9:25 am |
    • NUCLEARMIND

      God doesn't make mistakes.

      December 22, 2013 at 9:26 am |
      • Will

        God does not make anything because god only exists in the mind of fools.

        December 22, 2013 at 9:29 am |
      • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

        So, god was correct in Leviticus when he called bats birds? When he said that rabbits chewed their cud? He was correct?

        December 22, 2013 at 9:30 am |
  8. Dallas

    If I had to go through my life listening or watching stuff on purpose that I didnt like just so I could criticize it I would probably choose not to be born. Some people just dont understand how to treat their own life and would rather force themselves to be miserable because of someone else's happiness . Like liberals.

    December 22, 2013 at 8:15 am |
    • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

      And yet, didn't the Jesus described in the Bible exhibit a lot of traits your would attribute to Liberals? Feeding the poor? Curing the sick?

      December 22, 2013 at 8:20 am |
  9. Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

    Ahhhh! Sunday! The day where people love to argue on the Belief Blog about whether their personal version of a ficti-tious story about about a made-up deity is the "true" or "real" one.

    December 22, 2013 at 8:13 am |
    • lilyq

      .....with those who don't know God and pretend he doesn't exist.

      December 22, 2013 at 8:17 am |
      • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

        So you're admitting that you don't know Thor, god of Thunder, and you pretend Thor doesn't exist? Dangerous road you're walking there, friend!

        December 22, 2013 at 8:18 am |
        • Opposing View

          Attack… He's talking about what is real. You're talking about what is fantasy. And you're too stupid to know the difference. Get real…

          December 22, 2013 at 8:50 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          @ Opposing: There have been thousands of gods described by humans over thousands of years. What is it about YOUR god that makes it the one real god? Because you say it is? Lots of people say their god is real. Because your god is in a book? So what. Lots of gods are in other books.

          What you claim about your god being real has been claimed, on the same basis, for thousands of years.

          BTW, Thor promised to get rid of the Frost Giants. See any Frost Giants around? Nooo? Well then, he's more likely real.

          And what about thunder? You have hear thunder, right? Thats Thor, making thunder. Again, more evidence that MY god is more real than your god.

          December 22, 2013 at 8:55 am |
        • Opposing View

          Attack… If you don't know the difference between what is real and what is fantasy, then don't expect me to tell you. I don't have time for your pretended ignorance…

          December 22, 2013 at 9:21 am |
        • sam stone

          Of course, OV knows which is the real god.

          He is omniscient

          December 22, 2013 at 9:24 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          @ sam stone: "omniscient" – does that mean he's a weenie?

          December 22, 2013 at 9:26 am |
      • I've changed

        …And somehow people abandon evidence as a basis for reality.It only takes minutes to destroy religious belief using logic,but the faithful will simply refuse to listen.This becomes frustrating for atheists,but rest assured,we're not going away.Merry Christmas.

        December 22, 2013 at 9:34 am |
    • Will

      I always find it funny that people claim their made up magical fantasy religion is the right one and say the thousands of others are wrong. They are all made up.

      December 22, 2013 at 8:57 am |
  10. lilyq

    First time CNN has ever tried to understand a bible verse in context but even now quotes those with an agenda. The passage is not hard to understand. It is what it is.

    December 22, 2013 at 8:09 am |
    • Will

      Yep, It is bigoted and hateful. Much like the rest of the bible.

      December 22, 2013 at 9:08 am |
  11. Dallas

    The bible can be interpreted in many different ways. To even suggest that someone gets it wrong is wrong in itself. Like radical Islamic Muslims for instance. In reality they do not understand that everyone is born a sinner (Infidel) as they call it. Even themselves. For some reason they think they are not. Its that which is in themselves that needs to be slayed, not others.. I would be more concerned about that interpretation of the Quran then Phils interpretation of gay people in the bible. Some folks just take religion to far but Phil isnt one of them.

    December 22, 2013 at 8:06 am |
    • Opposing View

      That is just your own personal belief and it has no basis. There is only one correct interpretation of the scriptures, and that is the interpretation which cometh from God. And God giveth that interpretation only to his sent preachers. He doesn't give it to the devil. So if you haven't gotten your interpretation from a true sent preacher, then the interpretation you have is false…

      December 22, 2013 at 8:22 am |
      • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

        A "true sent preacher"? Seriously??????? Please, advise us, oh wise one: how can we be sure that some one claiming to be a "true sent preacher" actually is? What is the test for dividing the "true sent preachers" from the charlatans?

        December 22, 2013 at 8:29 am |
      • Will

        You are truly making my day. I am laughing so hard at your posts. This one takes the cake though. I am not sure if you believe the nonsense you are posting or you are just doing it for comedic purposes.

        December 22, 2013 at 9:06 am |
      • Opposing View

        "Attack", "Will"…

        Why do you guys keep following me around and continually proving that "fools hate knowledge"… I've already told you, I'm well aware of that fact. LOL...

        December 22, 2013 at 9:18 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          @ OV – Oh, come on! Just answer the question: how can you know who a "true sent preacher" is? You made the claim. We're just asking you to clarify and support your claim. How difficult is that?

          December 22, 2013 at 9:28 am |
        • Opposing View

          Attack... I don't answer to fools. What else don't you understand?...

          December 22, 2013 at 12:55 pm |
    • Marc T

      Your comment is so amazingly dumb: first you berate someone for calling a behavior wrong, which you claim is impossible and preposterous. And in the very next next sentence you go on and tell us how certain muslims supposedly got it all wrong. Seriously!?

      December 22, 2013 at 8:30 am |
  12. d taylor

    Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong yes. He is a member of the Church of Christ, that church teaches a false works based salvation. They teach a faith plus baptism, repentance, commitment salvation which clearly contradicts the Bible's Faith alone in Christ alone.

    The verse he (Phil Robertson) paraphrases 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 this verse is not a verse speaking about people going to hell. No where in this verse is that idea found . this is speaking about inheriting the Kingdom of God, not about entering the Kingdom it says right in the verse, inherit is used not enter.

    The only book of the Bible that is written to unbelievers is the Gospel of John take a look at John 20: 30,31 this verse states the purpose of The gospel of John
    John 20: 30, 31
    20:30 Now Jesus performed many other miraculous signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not recorded in this book.
    20:31 But these are recorded so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

    The rest of the New testament is written to believers and concerns their discipleship and life in Christ giving warning to believers for continued living worldly UnChrist like lives.

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten [uniquely born] Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    This verse (John 3:16) says it all if you want eternal life believe in The Christ for that life at the moment of belief a person receives eternal life forever and this life can never be lost.

    John 3:18 The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

    John 5:24 “I tell you the solemn truth, the one who hears my message and believes the one who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned, but has crossed over from death to life.

    December 22, 2013 at 7:55 am |
    • Opposing View

      d taylor… There are too many errors in your post for me to even waste my time responding to them. But Phil Robertson is correct, and what is said is backed up by scripture… For more info, see my post above "Truth Cometh From God, And Not From The Devil, All The Devil Is Offering You Is LIes")…

      December 22, 2013 at 9:27 am |
      • d taylor

        I have battled you false teachers and your work salvation, taking verses out out context to fit your work salvation agenda to many times truth is not debatable.

        and again the simple fact is that the Gospel of John the only book written to tell unbelievers how to have eternal life never mention baptism, repentance , commitment or any other works for a person to do receive eternal life

        but list over 90 time the simple act of believing in Christ's offer and promise of eternal life to all who will believe in Him for life.

        December 22, 2013 at 10:14 am |
        • Opposing View

          Maybe you should try reading my response to you below, rather than replying in places where it's irrelevant...

          December 22, 2013 at 12:58 pm |
    • Mark

      D, If baptism wasn't important then why did the apostles baptize people to begin with? All, and I repeat all of the conversion stories written in the New Testament of the Bible have the person being baptized. This is beyond doubt. The Church of Christ believe in the first century church and their practices. There are many different denominations which disagree on many of the teachings. You are judging one denomination with your comments. We both know what the Bible says about judging. Even Christ says in the last chapter of Mark 16:15-16, And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes AND IS BAPTIZED will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

      December 22, 2013 at 9:34 am |
      • d taylor

        Mark
        This all has to do with the sin of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. that was committed by the nation of Israel and the Judaism of that nation.
        Acts 3:19 is in this context Acts 3:1 to 4:22 and if you notice this is really similar to the crowd in Acts 2:1 to 2:41 and in Acts 2:1-2:41 this is connected to the Judaism that was connected to, taking part in the death of The Christ and the sin of The Blasphemy of the Holy Sprint and the rejection of the offer of the Kingdom By The Christ. it is connected because of this verse in Acts

        Acts 2:40 With many other words he testified and exhorted them saying, “Save yourselves from this perverse generation!”

        What Generation is Peter speaking about, the Generation (Judaism) that participated in the Blasphemy of the Holy Sprint and that Judaism could have included believers so the call i am seeing in Acts 2:37-41
        (2:37 Now when they heard this, they were acutely distressed and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “What should we do, brothers?” 2:38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 2:39 For the promise is for you and your children, and for all who are far away, as many as the Lord our God will call to himself.” 2:40 With many other words he testified and exhorted them saying, “Save yourselves from this perverse generation!” 2:41 So those who accepted his message were baptized, and that day about three thousand people were added.)

        is a call to the crowd. Which i am seeing as having believers and unbelievers and for the unbelievers first to become a believer by faith alone in Christ. Then after becoming a believer along with the believers already present, come out of the Judaism that took part in the death of Christ / the rejection of the Kingdom and they did that by what verses 2:37 and 2:38 speak of
        2:37 Now when they heard this, they were acutely distressed and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “What should we do, brothers?” 2:38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

        notice the call is what shall we do, not like Acts 16:30 where the jailer ask what shall i do to be saved.
        The nation of Israel had commented the Blasphemy of the Holy Sprint, that sin for the nation was unforgivable and Judgment was set and that Judgment came in 70 A.D.
        But for the believer God allowed a way the individual could escape this Judgment if they were part of the Judaism that rejected The Christ and The Kingdom and that is seen in acts 2:38 and in Acts 3:19 .
        Look at the next verse 3:20
        3:20 so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and so that he may send the Messiah appointed for you – that is, Jesus.

        the times of refreshing is the bringing in of the Kingdom.
        This sounds more like a verse speaking about the discipleship area of a believers life. Seeking for believer to get right with God not for eternal life
        (even though unbelievers could be in the crowd like in Acts 2) but so Christ will come back to setup the Kingdom.

        and where the verses say in Acts 2:41 and in 4:4
        2:41 So those who accepted his message were baptized, and that day about three thousand people were added.
        4:4 But many of those who had listened to the message believed, and the number of the men came to about five thousand.

        this sure could be unbelievers coming to faith in Christ, but also in this group could be believers separating out of Judaism and becoming committed believers to the faith.

        December 22, 2013 at 10:29 am |
    • Opposing View

      d taylor… Although I won't address the other issues, I just have to comment on this one thing…

      You said that – "The only book of the Bible that is written to unbelievers is the Gospel of John". Answer: LOL. Nothing could be further from the truth. The only book in the entire bible that is directed at unbelievers is the Book of Acts. Not the Gospels. The Gospels chronicle the life and times of Jesus Christ as well as everything he had said. And here's a key point – whenever Jesus was speaking to the multi-tude, he always spoke in "parables". And nothing he ever said was not a parable. The following scripture confirms this:

      Matthew 13:34 – All these things spake Jesus unto the multi-tude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them.

      In fact, at one point, one of Jesus disciples asked him, "Why speaketh thou unto them in parables? (in other words, why don't you just talk plainly so they can understand you). Here is what Jesus replied:

      Matthew 13:34 – And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

      In other words, God has the system set up to where only his sent preachers are meant to understand the meaning of the scriptures. Unsaved people are not meant to know or understand it. They might read the same scriptures, but don't have a clue what it means. And that is God's intention. Unbeliever are not meant to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven. Instead, if they want to know those mysteries, they'll have to get it from the preacher. And they can't get it by reading the bible for themselves. God has it fixed that way. That is why people who reads the bible for themselves and don't want to go to church or listen to the preacher, they'll end up in hell…

      Therefore, everything written in the gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke, John – was in no wise directed at unbelievers. Because everything Jesus said in those gospels was said in a mystery (a parable), and the people hearing it was not meant to understand it. Instead, the only book in the entire bible directed at unbelievers is the Book of Acts. In the Book of Acts, there are specific scriptures detailing people being saved. In Acts 2:38, the Apostle Peter specifically tells the crowd exactly what they must do in order to be saved. He gave them the formula of salvation. And if you haven't done what the Apostle Peter said in Acts 2:38, then you are not saved, no matter who you are…

      December 22, 2013 at 10:05 am |
      • d taylor

        Show me a parable between Matthew 4 and Matthew 12 Jesus spoke clearly to the Nation of Israel not in parables it is only after the sin of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit that Jesus spoke in parables starting in chapter 13.

        Also show me a verse in Acts that says this book was written to unbelievers like what John 20:30,31 says about the Gospel of John

        John 20: 30, 31
        20:30 Now Jesus performed many other miraculous signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not recorded in this book.
        20:31 But these are recorded so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

        December 22, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
      • d taylor

        Also there are no parables in the Gospel of John

        December 22, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
        • Opposing View

          d taylor… Everything I said to you previously still holds true. However, I just remembered there is also another way to easily prove that the book of Acts is the only book in the entire bible that's directed at unsaved people. Here's how…

          For starters, you should already know the entire Old Testament – from Genesis to Malachai – was written to Israel. Those books are not talking to us in the New Testament. You should already know that. That leaves the four Gospels (Matthew Mark, Luke, John), the Book of Acts, plus the New Testament books from Romans to Revelation…

          Concerning the New Testament books from Romans to Revelation, those books are all written for and directly at "saints", at people who are already saved, baptized in Jesus Name and have the Holy Ghost. Those books are not talking to unsaved people. Those books are "doctrine" written for saints and is instructing them on what to do after they have received the Holy Ghost. It instructs them on how to stay saved until Jesus comes. So none of those books from Romans to Revelation are talking to unsaved people either. That leaves only the four Gospels, plus the book of Acts…

          Concerning the four Gospels, I've already stated earlier that those four Gospels are not directed at unsaved people because everything Jesus said in those books, he spoke in a mystery and a parable. That still holds true and is correct. But another important point is that, no where in those four Gospels does the scriptures ever actually tell a person how to be saved. That information is not in the four Gospels. Yes, there were indeed certain references Jesus made to being saved, such as – "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, he that believeth not shall be damned". He also said, "Except a man be born of water and of spirit he cannot see the kingdom of God etc". Yes, Jesus did say those things. But the problem is, those things were said in a mystery, a "parable". That means there was some sort of hidden meaning behind it Jesus did not reveal. And before you can actually DO what those scriptures say, and to comply with them, you must first know and understand what Jesus meant by it. And nowhere in those four Gospels is that part explained. Jesus did not explain what he meant by those things he said in the Gospels. The detailed explanation for how to actually be saved is not explained anywhere else in the entire bible except in the Book of Acts. That is where you will find the information and answer to it. The Apostle Peter explains it in Acts 2:38. Only there do you find out how to actually be saved – to be born of water and of the spirit. In that verse, the Apostle Peter stands up and explains it to the crowd. No where else is that information written in the scriptures. Therefore, if you wanted to know how to be saved, you had to get it from the Apostles. Jesus had explained that info to the Apostles privately. God set up the system like that so that you could not bypass the preacher. He knew that people would try it. But God set up the system so that you would need the preacher to be saved. He set it up so you would need the preacher to explain and to interpret the scriptures for you. Without the preacher in the equation, you cannot be saved and will go straight to hell. Many people who don't have any truth will attempt to cling to Jesus' own words written in the Gospels, while dismissing what the Apostles are saying in the New Testament. They feel Jesus was greater than the Apostles, so they only want to listen to him. It can't be done. You'll go to hell if you try that. Jesus and the Apostles are a team. They're working together through Christ to save your soul. And if you leave the Apostles out of the equation, if you ignore what the Apostles are saying in the scriptures, you will end up in hell. The only place you will find how to saved in complete detail is in the book of Acts. The book of Acts is the only book directly solely at unsaved people…

          December 22, 2013 at 8:01 pm |
  13. Mr Dalloway

    Rich trash plain and simple

    December 22, 2013 at 7:49 am |
  14. biggerdawg

    Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?

    December 22, 2013 at 7:47 am |
    • biggerdawg

      No, I don't believe he does.

      December 22, 2013 at 7:47 am |
    • Will

      Nope, he gets the bible totally right. I give him credit for actually reading it. The bible is a hate filled book full of lies. I believe Phil got it exactly right. If you believe everything the bible says then you cannot help but be a bigot and a fool.

      December 22, 2013 at 8:39 am |
  15. david mann

    Excuse me...that question was directed to "Opposing View"

    December 22, 2013 at 7:35 am |
  16. Opposing View

    The Gay Ruling is a Lie and a Conflict of Interest…

    It is the epitome of ignorance for any society today, to have a doctor or a leading physician, particularly someone who is secretly or known to be gay, to make a ruling on the issue of whether being gay is a choice. That's just like asking a fox what he thinks about who ate the chickens in the hen house. A fox would never admit that he was involved. And neither would any doctor or gay physician ever make a ruling which would condemn his own behavior. Instead, they would only rule in a way to make such behavior seem alright. Imagine if you had a court of law where a defense lawyer was saying, "We have Mr. Fox here, who is an outstanding citizen, and he is willing to testify that he saw Mr. Goat near the hen house on the day in question (and that's completely overlooking the fact that goats don't even eat chickens). And imagine if the jury bought that nonsense and say, yep, Mr. Goat must be guilty, because Mr. Fox says so. That would be ludicrous indeed, would it not, and you'd have to wonder whether those people on the jury had any brains, let alone common sense. Well, that is exactly how ludicrous it is to have a gay doctor or gay physician say being gay is not a choice – and you believe them. Any sane person would to wonder what was wrong with your mind…

    Regarding the issue above, it has been said that – "every leading medical organization in the country has said there is nothing wrong with being gay, that it's not a choice". Okay, but there are two problems with that statement. First, if those same leading medical organizations who made those statements turn out to be wrong and you end up in hell, then do they have a plan for getting you out? If they don't and can't, then perhaps you should reconsider believing them in the first place. Keep in mind, it is your eternal soul that's at stake, and not just some whimsical artifact. The second part of the problem is that, those same people responsible for those same reports in those so-called leading medial organizations were in fact themselves "gay" and had committed gay acts. That is a fact. So it's a conflict of interest. No gay person would ever make a ruling against himself. No gay person would ever make a ruling which would condemn his own behavior. Yet, the rest of the world seems so unintelligent and so blinded by their own self interests and desire to commit the very same acts, that they are unwilling to see the truth and so close their eyes to the fact that there's a conflict. In the case of gays it seems, rational thinking does not apply. In fact, no true hetero-s-e-xual doctor or physician, who is still a true hetero-s-exual like God created you, and who stands up for God and for what God says, would ever make a ruling that being gay is a choice. They'd never do it in a billion years. And Lucifer knows that. And is precisely why Lucifer has been making efforts to infiltrate gays into our courts, into our justice system, and into the highest levels of our government, all so that with gays in place, laws can be changed to favor gays. And by doing so, countless more people in the world would become gay and end up in hell. Which is precisely what Lucifer wants all along – to send your soul to hell. Lucifer doesn't care one way or the other about whether you're gay or not. All he truly cares about is sending your soul to hell, so that you can spend eternity in the lake with him. Maybe that's something you should consider before you choose to be gay…

    December 22, 2013 at 6:46 am |
    • Reality # 2

      o "Abrahamics" believe that their god created all of us and of course that includes the g-ay members of the human race. Also, those who have studied ho-mo-se-xuality have determined that there is no choice involved therefore ga-ys are ga-y because god made them that way.

      To wit:

      1. The Royal College of Psy-chiatrists stated in 2007:

      “ Despite almost a century of psy-choanalytic and psy-chological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heteros-exual or hom-ose-xual orientation. It would appear that s-exual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of ge-netic factors and the early ut-erine environment. Se-xual orientation is therefore not a choice.[60] "

      2. "Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab state in the abstract of their 2010 study, "The fe-tal brain develops during the intraut-erine period in the male direction through a direct action of tes-tosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hor-mone surge. In this way, our gender identi-ty (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and s-exual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender ident–ity or s-exual orientation."[8

      3. See also the From the Philadelphia Inquirer review “Gay Gene, Deconstructed”, 12/12/2011. Said review addresses the following “How do genes associated with ho-mose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?”
      "Most scientists who study human se-xuality agree that gay people are born that way. But that consensus raises an evolutionary puzzle: How do genes associated with h-omose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?"

      http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/evolution/Gay-gene-deconstructed.html

      Of course, those gays who belong to Abrahamic religions supposedly abide by the rules of no adu-ltery or for-nication allowed.

      December 22, 2013 at 6:54 am |
      • Opposing View

        The scriptures state that – "fools hate knowledge". After reading your crazy reply, I believe it…

        Proverbs 1:22 – the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge…

        December 22, 2013 at 8:04 am |
        • igaftr

          considering the fact that the bible is not knowledge, you prove with every post that you are afraid of knowledge. Knowledge is the enemy of faith.

          December 22, 2013 at 8:13 am |
        • Opposing View

          lgaftr… Well thank you for confirming that my statement is true (that fools hate knowledge). But I already knew that it was...

          December 22, 2013 at 8:59 am |
        • igaftr

          Yes, You show your aversion to knowledge with every post.

          You think being gay is a choice? Here is an experiment you can try RIGHT NOW.

          Choose to be gay...right now. If you are a man, go out and CHOOSE to be $exually attracted to men...you don't have to act on it. At the same time, CHOOSE to be repulsed by the idea of $ex with women. If you are right, you can choose to go right back...try it for an hour.

          Since you CAN"T...it should be sufficent to PROVE that it is not a choice.

          By all means, continue to post your opposing spew...you only show the ridiculous and dangerous nature of unfounded belief.

          December 22, 2013 at 9:22 am |
      • priscilla kish

        Thank you to Phil, it is about time that a Christian spoke truth about what the Bible says ! He is so right !
        I am a Christian and I believe the word of God . Has no one read about Sodom and Gomorrah in the book of Genesis? It is very clear what God brought down because men were going after men.
        Yes, everyone has the right and freedom to do what they want and how they choose to live and believe.
        I am in favor of that but, like Phil, I love all people and want no one to be lost and without Christ.
        Phil didn't name names or say anything about any one person.
        Too many people take God's word and twist it to fit what they want it to mean.
        In Gensis 1: 27 God created man and woman, he blessed them, said to them be fruitful and multiply.
        It seems that everyone can speak out on everything, except Christians, why is that ?
        As I said, it is about time, long over due. We all have the right to our opinions.
        I have the rght to live by God's word, that does not mean that I won't ever make a mistake.
        Christ went to the cross and shed his blood so that we can be forgiven, repent and move on.
        It's open to all that choose to believe ! Thank you, God .

        December 22, 2013 at 8:07 am |
        • midwest rail

          " It seems that everyone can speak out on everything, except Christians, why is that ? "
          How has he, or any other Christian in America, been prevented from speaking ?

          December 22, 2013 at 8:09 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          Well said, priscillia! I too believe in the word of God, as plainly set out in the Bible. These are God's words! I particularly like the parts in Leviticus – where God explains that bats are birds and that hares chew their cud. I laugh whenever I hear a biologist say that a bat is actually a mammal! Pshaw! And its obvious that rabbits are ruminants; the biologists just haven't noticed all of their extra stomachs yet! Silly science! Yaaay Bible!

          December 22, 2013 at 8:17 am |
        • dogon

          I love the story about Sodom and Gomorrah. Especially after Lot and his daughters leave and they get him drunk so they can get impregnated by their own father.. That was the story that turned me into an atheist.

          December 22, 2013 at 8:44 am |
        • tb63

          "God created man and woman, he blessed them, said to them be fruitful and multiply."

          And so Adam and Eve begat to sons.

          Um, how exactly did the lineage proceed from there?

          December 22, 2013 at 9:10 am |
        • Opposing View

          Midwest… Atheists make evils statement about God every single day. Nothing is ever said about it and no one cares. But the very second any Christian speaks out publicly in defense of God or in defense of something God said – suddenly it's headline news – "I hope he gets fired!", "Lets suspend him", "Lets boycott the show", blah, blah, blah… You atheists will lie about anything...

          Attack… Yes, sarcasm is a common tactic used by atheists when they have nothing better to say – or should I say – nothing more intelligent to say. Your worthless comments are noted…

          dagon… It is also the same story you will remember forever when you are burning the lake because you spoke evil of things you understand not...

          December 22, 2013 at 9:10 am |
        • tb63

          two sons.

          December 22, 2013 at 9:12 am |
        • Will

          Nobody is stopping Christians or anyone else on speaking out. What the heck are you talking about? Are you saying A&E should not have the right to fire Phil over his bigoted comments? I disagree. I work for a huge corporation and if I made those comments in a magazine such as GQ then I would be fired in a heartbeat. And rightfully so. I think anyone that works for a big corporation has heard the term "Corporate Values" and Phil violated A&Es.

          He can say whatever he wants but he also has to realize there are consequences to his actions. Now if the government arrested him for what he said then I would be leading the charge on defending him and getting him released as that violates his first amendment rights.

          December 22, 2013 at 9:16 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          @ Opposing View: How can one NOT be sarcastic in such situation? The Bible – your bible, word of god, etc – claims that bats are birds, and that rabbits chew their cud. Leviticus. YOUR bible. YOUR god. Please, please, please help me to understand this obvious set of errors. It's in YOUR bible. Your god – you know, the creator of all of those avian bats and ruminant rabbits.

          December 22, 2013 at 9:48 am |
    • James P. Barber

      You left out your expert credentials.It would also be a conflict of interest if a straight man made a different ruling.Both sides have a right to their beliefs and a right to equal treatment. Maybe we should get back to the old testament where Lot offered up his virgin daughters to the lustful men to protect his guest.

      December 22, 2013 at 7:45 am |
      • biggerdawg

        Who says both sides have their rights? When one right is indirect conflict with the others who's right is mightier? So, two rights will only make a left and there's enough of that NOT working. Thank you, I'm here every Sunday, try the veal.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:50 am |
      • Opposing View

        James Barber…

        Concerning your first statement, my credentials is that I am a saint of the Most High God. I got my info from a true sent preacher, and he got his info from God. Where did you get yours from? Answer: YouTube and Lucifer?…

        Concerning your second statement, no straight man would ever make a different ruling, not if he was standing up for God and for what God says (and I stipulated that in my post) so you have no argument…

        Concerning your third statement, you have the free will right to follow the commandments of God, or you will continue on to hell – those are the only rights you have. The rights granted by man don't mean a thing if they violate the laws of God. Any man who adheres to the laws of man while violating the laws of God, shall end up in hell…

        Concerning your last statement, you're too ignorant to even know what you are saying, so I won't even comment on it…

        December 22, 2013 at 8:19 am |
        • igaftr

          What you have here is nothing but belief....and your belief causes you hatred...it shows in your words about both gay people and atheists. You have learned nothing from the character in your book. Perhaps you should put your book down, and go to the source of your Jesus' teachings...the Buddha. 90% of what your Jesus allegedly said, originally came from the Buddha, 400 years earlier, yet your character never gives him credit.

          The whole non-violence, self improvement rather than criticizing others, community over self, your "golden rule", on and on...all Buddha. Your Jesus is a metaphor from a book, with Buddha's teachings thrown on.

          And I am not going to hell, since there is no such place.
          Why would your god cretae a place to punish people...sounds just like a schoolyard bully...he doesn't want to make you punch yourself, you just won't do what he commands and give up your lunch money...all you have to do is give up your lunch money and uyou'll be fine....same exact thing as your god...creates hell and then threatens you with it.

          Nogomain is a more powerful god than yours...not only did he create everything, but also created himself out of nothing...impressive.

          December 22, 2013 at 9:41 am |
    • ms

      Unless YOU, Mr.Opposing View, were born gay. Then you would sing a different tune, or lie to yourself and to us.

      December 22, 2013 at 9:14 am |
  17. Mark Yelka

    We supposedly live in a secular society. Religion should have no part of denying some citizens rights that others have. So, it really shouldn't matter what Phil thinks. It should be irrelevant and gays should be able to marry and have the same rights as everyone else. The reason that this is a story is exactly because religion has been complicit in the denial of equal treatment under the law for gay folks. If equal treatment were available for gays today, we could dismiss Phil's statements as just being those of a bigot. There are plenty of people who still harbor negative feelings for people of color, interracial marriage, etc. But, that isn't as much of an issue anymore because these folks at least are legally on equal ground.

    December 22, 2013 at 6:44 am |
    • Mark

      We supposedly live in a religious society. A secular society should have no part in denying some citizens rights that others have.

      December 22, 2013 at 6:55 am |
      • Mark Yelka

        Nope, we live in a country that is secular by design.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:04 am |
      • Vader

        A secular society denies you nothing. You can live your life by whatever tenets you choose. Where you cross the line is when you seek to impose your religious belief (and that is what they are, belief, not fact) on the rest of us.

        If you want to quote writings made by men almost 2000 years ago, in a language you cannot understand (no, the Bible was not written in English) that has been interpreted repeatedly over the years to fit whatever agenda the person or persons were interpreting it needed at the time, fine, go for it.

        December 22, 2013 at 8:45 am |
  18. Jack

    Bigotry and Racism cloaked in the Christian religion. Does that make it ok? I'm glad I'm an atheist.

    December 22, 2013 at 6:33 am |
    • Mark

      I think you mean to say you are glad you are an agnostic.

      Or do you have PROOF that God doesn't exist?

      December 22, 2013 at 6:56 am |
      • Will

        When a person makes an outrageous claim and promotes that as fact then the onerous of proving that claim falls on the person who makes it. If I claimed that leprechauns existed then I better have undeniable proof that they exist. The burden of proving a god exists falls squarely upon religion.

        Also, there is roughly 3,000 active religions in the world. A religious person discounts 2,999 of them as false. An Atheist discounts all of them as false. In other words, out of the 3,000 or so active religions, a religious person believes in one more than an Atheist.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:15 am |
      • Ugh-29464

        Atheists don't have to prove a negative. Its a statement that the person does not believe in the existence of any god. Agnostics argue that because they cannot prove or disprove the existence of a god that they are either unsure, believers-but, or disbelievers.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:19 am |
      • biggerdawg

        Hmmm, no reply. Not surprising, you're question is a good one and I will use it in the future. Nice one.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:51 am |
        • igaftr

          You likely will use it in the future, because you likely have no concept of logic. The onus is on the one making the claim, such as deities exist.

          You don't try to prove Santa doesn't exist, you WILL want someone who claims he does to prove it.
          Get a lesson in logic.

          December 22, 2013 at 8:19 am |
  19. Burt

    The point of the Bible is that none of us is worthy of entering heaven, and that we all need to accept the free gift of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross as payment for our sins. This is the message of the Bible.

    December 22, 2013 at 6:27 am |
    • Will

      The point of the bible is to control people and spread hatred. It is a hate filled book written by bronze-age men 2,000 years ago in the desert. If the men who wrote the bible were alive today we would equate them to the Taliban due to their bigoted, raciest, misogamist, and hate filled teachings.

      December 22, 2013 at 7:05 am |
      • ed

        You obviously never read the whole bible.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:44 am |
        • Will

          You obviously are making assumptions about me that are totally incorrect. I have read the bible from front to back many times. In a recent Pew research poll it found that Atheists know more about religion than religious people? In my opinion that is because most Atheists started out as religious people but started questioning religion due to it's inherent flaws. They then researched religion in great detail and came to the realization that all religion is false.

          December 22, 2013 at 8:34 am |
      • biggerdawg

        Equating the Taliba with Christianity is like equating being stoned to death with a time out. Your credibility are in tatters, just like your point.

        December 22, 2013 at 7:53 am |
        • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

          Hmm – stoned to death. Reminds me of the command in the Bible to stone your unruly and disobedient children to death. Deuteronomy 21: 18-21 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

          December 22, 2013 at 8:24 am |
        • Will

          I guess you have not really read the bible in full and only go by what you have heard in your preacher or priest sermons. If you have you would know that the bible demands death for things such as teenagers talking back, disobedient wives, gays, non-Christians, and a host of other things. Sounds a lot like what the Taliban teaches to me.

          Stop being a gullible fool. Over the past few centuries science has shown the bible and religion to be wrong on just about everything. The bible (and any religious teachings for that matter) were created by men and have about as much basis in reality as the Harry Potter books or the tooth fairy. Religion is the worst thing that mankind ever invented.

          December 22, 2013 at 8:26 am |
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