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December 24th, 2013
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CNN Poll: Pope's approval rating sky-high

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
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(CNN) - As Pope Francis prepares to celebrate his first Christmas at the Vatican, Americans' opinions of the pontiff appear to be as high as the dome on St. Peter's Basilica, according to a new survey.

A CNN/ORC International poll released Tuesday found that 88% of American Catholics approve of how Francis is handling his role as head of the 1.2 billion-member church.

The popular pontiff has also made a positive impression among Americans in general: Nearly three in four view Francis favorably.  The new survey suggests that the Pope is arguably the most well-regarded religious figure among the American public today, said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

Nine months into his papacy, the Argentine-born Francis has captured attention with crowd-pleasing acts of compassion, from embracing a severely disfigured man, to washing the feet of juvenile delinquents, to hosting homeless men at his birthday Mass this month.

The Pope has also shown a common touch rare for such a lofty religious leader. He has eschewed the trappings of the papacy in favor of humbler digs, simpler vestments and a cheaper car. He worked as a bar bouncer and a janitor before he was a priest, and is not shy about telling people.

Pope: I was once a bar bouncer

According to one study, Pope Francis was the most talked about person on the Internet this year, and even atheists have professed appreciation for the 77-year-old pontiff.

The breadth of Francis' popularity was on display at American newsstands this month: he was named person of the year by both Time magazine and The Advocate, a gay and lesbian publication.

"While 2013 will be remembered for the work of hundreds in advancing marriage equality, it will also be remembered for the example of one man," The Advocate said. In remarks that rippled across the globe, Pope Francis said in July, "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?

Pope Francis on gays: 'Who am I to judge?'

While the Pope has not changed church doctrine, he has urged Catholics to shift their focus from culture war issues to caring for people on society's margins, especially the poor.

"I see the church as a field hospital after battle," Francis said in September.

American Catholics appear to like the new course the Pope has set for their church. Nearly two-thirds agree with him about the amount of attention that should be paid to issues such as abortion and homosexuality, according to the CNN/ORC poll.

More than 85% of American Catholics say Francis is neither too liberal nor too conservative, and 86% say he's in touch with the modern world. By comparison, more than half of American Catholics said Pope John Paul II was out of step with the times in 2003, near the end of his 26-year-long papacy.

But Francis has been a fierce critic of the status quo, especially what calls the "idolatry of money" present in modern-day capitalism. In a papal statement last month, for example, the Pope blasted the theory of trickle-down economics, calling it "crude and naïve."

Conservative critics such as Rush Limbaugh pounced on the Pope's remarks, calling him a closet Marxist. But nearly two in three American Catholics agree with the Pope about capitalism and the free market's effects on the poor, according to the CNN/ORC poll.

Pope: Marxist ideology is 'wrong'

On other key issues for Catholics - the role of women in the church and the sexual abuse crises - Francis gets similarly high ratings from his American flock.

More than six in 10 American Catholics agree with Francis' comments about women in the church, according to the CNN/ORC poll. The Pope has said that women should have a larger role in church governance but cannot be ordained as priests.

Similarly, more than six in 10 American Catholics say Francis is doing a good job handling fallout from the church's sexual abuse scandal, even as most (64%) also say the church overall has done a poor job on the issue.

This month, the Vatican announced the creation of a new commission to care for victims of clergy sexual abuse and to prevent future crimes.

American Catholics had given especially low marks on the sexual abuse scandal to Francis' predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, with just 36% saying in 2010 that he had handled the issue well.

CNN's Holland said it's difficult to ascertain exactly how Francis' popularity stacks up against his predecessors, however. "It's a tough question since polling on Popes is pretty sparse," he said.

What's more, like political polling, approval ratings shift depending on the public mood and perception of a Pope's performance.

For example, three-quarters of American Catholics approved of how John Paul was leading the church in 1994; that number rose to 84% in 1999 and dipped to 64% in 2003, at the height of the church's sexual abuse crisis.

It remains to be seen how long the honeymoon will last for Francis, and how long he can continue to build goodwill among American Catholics.

The poll was conducted for CNN by ORC International on December 16 through Thursday, with 1,035 adults nationwide, including 191 Catholics, questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.

Pope Francis' greatest hits of 2013

- CNN Religion Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Christianity • Culture wars • Leaders • Pope Benedict XVI • Pope Francis • Pope John Paul II • Sex abuse • Vatican

soundoff (3,274 Responses)
  1. Sea Otter

    Bishop: O Great Queen Spider, we wish to change one of the Vatican laws.
    Queen Spider: No, the Vatican laws cannot be changed, so sayeth the spider.

    December 27, 2013 at 9:56 am |
    • Sea Otter

      Cardinal: Well, what do you suggest we change, Father Maxi?
      Father Maxi: Well, for one, no sex with boys.
      Congregation: Awwwwww! Rabble rabble rabble!

      December 27, 2013 at 9:58 am |
      • Sea Otter

        Father Maxi: Well, maybe we could change the law to say that it's okay for a priest to have sex...with women.
        Congregation of Cardinals: Ahhh! Rabble rabble rabble rabble!
        Gilgamek Cardinal: The Gilgamek vagina is three feet wide and filled with razor sharp teeth. Do you really expect us to have sex with them?
        Father Maxi: Right, maybe we should forget about the Gilgameks for right now.
        Gilgamek Cardinal: Forget about the Gelgameks?!
        Gilgamek Cardinals: Ahhh! Rabble rabble rabble rabble!

        December 27, 2013 at 9:59 am |
    • lol??

      Socie mobs are alwayz lookin' for leadership. Abe wasn't.

      December 27, 2013 at 10:24 am |
      • Max

        Abe wasn't? God wasn't Abe's leader at all? Huh.

        December 27, 2013 at 10:51 am |
      • G to the T

        Well that was certainly the case when he was on "Barney Miller" but I think that changed once they had that "Fish" spin-off...

        December 30, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
  2. Austin

    Topher, is that me?

    December 27, 2013 at 9:51 am |
  3. Lionly Lamb

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HVOUMiB0pvw

    December 27, 2013 at 12:58 am |
    • Austin

      Hi Lionly Lamb! How you been doing buddy? Hope you had a good Christmas and that you are feeling great! Have a great day!

      December 27, 2013 at 12:40 pm |
    • doobzz

      Good morning, LL!

      Is that a picture of what Santa left in your stocking?

      December 27, 2013 at 1:01 pm |
  4. Austin

    Before you pray to a false god, false worship, read through the new testament, and listen to every word of it.. and then that is the end of this topic of "the rosary."

    You should not thirst for the traditions of the Catholic Church. Is Christ enough?

    December 27, 2013 at 12:15 am |
    • Reality # 2

      Once again, summarizing the New Testament:

      The Apostles' Creed 2013: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (references used are available upon request)

      December 27, 2013 at 6:19 am |
    • sam stone

      how do you know you are not worshipping a "false god", austin?

      did a squashed tell you so in your dreams?

      December 27, 2013 at 6:22 am |
      • lol??

        Judgment calls are used by Christians. That's what a man does. The socies think only THEY have gud judgment.

        December 27, 2013 at 10:13 am |
        • sam stone

          not even a good attempt at trolling, pen-day-ho

          December 27, 2013 at 10:44 am |
    • Keith

      As you read your Bible remember the Catholic Church created it. As you listen to your Fundamentalist preachers or Evangelicals remember that uneducated men thought they could understand the bible without any knowledge of history or how Christianity developed. Keep in mind that you are promoting an ignorant hatred of "the church" because of your lack of knowledge.

      December 27, 2013 at 9:44 am |
      • Ted

        And also give the Catholic Church credit for its huge efforts in hiding its pedo priests, and for threatening scientists, and for trying to squash important medical research, and so on. No thanks; you can keep your sick Catholic religious sect. It's dying out anyway, and that's great news.

        December 27, 2013 at 9:55 am |
  5. Austin

    talking to the dead 1 Samuel 28
    8 That night, Saul put on different clothing so nobody would recognize him. Then he and two of his men went to the woman, and asked, “Will you bring up the ghost of someone for us?”

    9 The woman said, “Why are you trying to trick me and get me killed? You know King Saul has gotten rid of everyone who talks to the spirits of the dead!”

    December 27, 2013 at 12:03 am |
    • Austin

      "He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition" (Mark 7:6-9).

      December 27, 2013 at 12:12 am |
      • G to the T

        And who did Jesus say was the "rock" his church would founded on? To whom did he say that all that he would bind on earth shall be bound in heaven?

        December 30, 2013 at 11:29 am |
  6. DONT WORSHIP MARY

    Austin

    if you take personally what i am talking about then you maybe should do so. I am talking to a million catholics in general, because at 1009 AD the stared praying to Mary, which is GARBAGE, and sac-religeous idolatry.

    The fact is, Mary is no different than every other small person that God used in a suprising place. From moses in the river, Joseph sold into slavery, or Isaiah, Daniel in the Den, Jeremiah in a cistern, Paul, Peter, Mary,

    WE DO NOT PRAY TO HUMANS. WE PRAY TO GOD. IT IS SO OBVIOUS. Praying to Mary BREAKS WHAT WE ARE TOLD IS ACCEPETABLE.

    2. You shall have no other gods but me.
    Exodus 20:4

    Exodus 20:4.

    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

    that was true for a golden calf, and is certainly true for statues of Jesus OR MARY. and you do worhip them. If you kiss it, you are accessively devoted to this image. and that is worship.

    prayer
    pre(ə)r/
    noun
    noun: prayer; plural noun: prayers

    1.
    a solemn request for help or expression of thanks addressed to God or an object of worship.

    so you have made mary an object of WORSHIP, through prayer. this is not what the church claims "hyper adoration"

    YOU WORSHIP MARY. this breaks an important commandment. Again, this is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN

    December 26, 2013 at 11:57 pm |
  7. Lionly Lamb

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go3kQIEV_gM&feature=player_detailpage

    December 26, 2013 at 10:54 pm |
  8. Topher

    Austin, is that me?

    December 26, 2013 at 10:23 pm |
    • Austin

      It's us dear. I love me.

      December 26, 2013 at 10:24 pm |
      • Austin

        Hey Topher how ya doing? Its really me.

        December 26, 2013 at 11:41 pm |
  9. Catholic News Network

    Can't we go one day without news of this chid abuse hider AKA the pope, already. And whatcha gonna do when the next pope comes along and isn't such a made-for-TV personality to distract from the evils of the priest-hoods???

    December 26, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
  10. USMC 1371

    High poll rating just means more child abusers are willing to pick up their phone.

    December 26, 2013 at 9:27 pm |
  11. House of Mold

    I can't be bothered to read this article but apparently the Pope got more than three stars. He is a keeper. I have not yet managed to understand why the changing of the Pope was a big news story. His subsequent popularity is manufactured.

    December 26, 2013 at 8:55 pm |
  12. Lionly Lamb

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxOgs-8bagA&feature=player_detailpage

    December 26, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
  13. The Church Of Lord Obama in Washington, D.C. in Dupont Circle

    Please read this article because our church in Washington, D.C. is uriging Americans to worship and praise president Obama because He is our personal Lord and Messiah and will protect us from insurgents overseas. Satan caused the kidnapping of journalists like Daniel Pearl and others but Obama is the new Jesus Christ of the world! For info, call us at 240–344-1323 or 202–895-3000. Thank you for your service!

    ISLAMABAD (AP) – A 72-year-old American development worker who was kidnapped in Pakistan by al-Qaida more than two years ago appealed to President Obama in a video released Thursday to negotiate his release, saying he feels "totally abandoned and forgotten."

    The video of Warren Weinstein of Rockville, Md., was the first since two videos released in September 2012. Weinstein, the country director in Pakistan for J.E. Austin Associates, a U.S.-based firm that advises a range of Pakistani business and government sectors, was abducted from his house in the eastern city of Lahore in August 2011.

    In the video sent Thursday to reporters in Pakistan including The Associated Press, Weinstein called on the U.S. government to negotiate his release.

    "Nine years ago I came to Pakistan to help my government, and I did so at a time when most Americans would not come here, and now when I need my government it seems that I have been totally abandoned and forgotten," Weinstein said during the 13-minute video. "And so I again appeal to you to instruct your appropriate officials to negotiate my release."

    It was impossible to tell how much Weinstein's statement, made under the duress of captivity, was scripted by his captors.

    The video and an accompanying letter purported to be from Weinstein was emailed anonymously to reporters in Pakistan. The video was labelled "As-Sahab," which is al-Qaida's media wing, but its authenticity could not be independently verified. The letter was dated Oct. 3, 2013 and in the video Weinstein said he had been in captivity for two years.

    In the video, Weinstein wore a grey track suit jacket and what appeared to be a black knit hat on his head. His face was partially covered with a beard.

    Al-Qaida has said Weinstein would be released if the U.S. halted airstrikes in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen and also demanded the release of all al-Qaida and Taliban suspects around the world.

    The White House has called for Weinstein's immediate release but has said it won't negotiate with al-Qaida.

    The videos last year showed Weinstein appealing for help from the Jewish community and Israel's prime minister.

    December 26, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
    • John

      Oh, stop. Weinstein should never have started worshipping the almighty dollar and decided to put his own safety over chasing the dime.
      I don't feel very sorry for him. He knew what Pakistan was like.

      December 26, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
      • Reality # 2

        The inanity of religion strikes again:

        A simple cure for the new members of this blog:

        Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!

        • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

        • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

        • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

        • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

        • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

        • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

        • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

        • A constant cycle of reincarnation until enlightenment is reached and belief that various beings (angels?, tinkerbells? etc) exist that we, as mortals, cannot comprehend makes for a no on Sikhism.

        Added details available upon written request.

        A quick search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.

        e.g. Taoism

        "The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.

        Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother's womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. "

        December 26, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
        • John

          What are you posting this to me for? I truly couldn't care less about your natterings, and it doesn't even make sense, given what I posted to the OP.

          Your segue needs work.

          December 26, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          Oops, the comment was for "The Church Of Lord Obama in Washington, D.C. in Dupont Circle".

          December 26, 2013 at 11:31 pm |
      • Martha

        Oh John.
        Oh John.
        Oh John.

        December 26, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
  14. In memory of Carlin

    "I have just as much authority as the Pope, just not enough people who believe me."

    December 26, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
    • The Secret of Life

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp3aAvorZcw

      December 26, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
      • Bootyfunk

        gotta love father guido sarducci. 10+

        December 26, 2013 at 8:11 pm |
        • Lovit

          Like. Big Like. Father Guido rocked.

          December 26, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
  15. Austin

    exhortation
    Exhortation
    (more Spiritual Gifts)

    The gift of Exhortation is the special ability to counsel or challenge others toward a healthy relationship with Jesus Christ. Often, the gift of Exhortation is utilized to motivate the Church in general or a Christ Follower in particular, to make God-honoring choices. If sensitivity and tact is not properly developed, the person gifted with Exhortation may not immediately be appreciated. The gift of Exhortation is somewhat similar to the role of the Old Testament prophets in challenging God’s people to remain faithful. While the prophets were not immediately valued, and often persecuted, their service was indispensable to the spiritual health and vitality of the biblical faith community.

    People who possess the gift of Exhortation will not avoid conflict. It is not that they love conflict. In fact, everything inside them may hate conflict. People with the gift of Exhortation feel a deep responsibility before God to challenge and encourage those that may be taking a path that does not honor the Lord, to correct their misguided choices. In Acts 14:22, the Apostle Paul consistently serves to “strengthen the disciples and to encourage them to remain true to the faith”. In

    December 26, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
    • Reality # 2

      Added details:

      "In Christianity, spiritual gifts (or charismata) are endowments given by the Holy Spirit.[1] These are the supernatural graces which individual Christians need to fulfill the mission of the church.[2][3] They are described in the New Testament, primarily in 1 Corinthians 12,[4] Romans 12,[5] and Ephesians 4.[6] 1 Peter 4[7] also touches on the spiritual gifts.[1] The gifts are related to both seemingly "natural" abilities and seemingly more "miraculous" abilities, but all spiritual gifts are empowered by the Holy Spirit.[3] The two major opposing theological positions on the nature of the charismata are cessationism and continuationism (see also Cessationism versus Continuationism).

      Spiritual gifts are distinguished from other graces of the Holy Spirit, such as the fruit of the Spirit and the Seven Gifts of the Holy Spirit, in that the charismata are to be used for the benefit of others while the fruit of the Spirit and other gifts result in personal sanctification.[8]"

      GIVE US A BREAK. There is no holy spirit(s) or unholy one(s) either. Christian theological mumbo-jumbo is no longer acceptable!!!!!!!

      December 26, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • Justice

      Austin:

      Faith... that's what you have. But you have to exercise it for it to be blessed with holy spirit... sitting at your computer blogging about how wrong other beliefs are doesn't count.

      The gifts of holy spirit results in miracles, not argument or ridiculing the ridiculed.

      You're wasting your time.

      Sorry...

      December 26, 2013 at 5:57 pm |
      • Maddy

        Thank you.

        December 26, 2013 at 6:18 pm |
        • Justice

          You're welcome.

          December 26, 2013 at 6:31 pm |
      • Check

        Justice,
        "you have to exercise it for it to be blessed with holy spirit... sitting at your computer blogging about how wrong other beliefs are doesn't count."

        So, someone on horseback allegedly on his way to persecute Christians couldn't get this "gift", could he?
        - nor someone who allegedly refused to believe until he touched the "Christ's" wounds
        - nor someone who allegedly plowed his car through a church building in a tantrum
        - nor a whole bunch of other someones who boast(ed) they were given this "gift" amidst various hostile circ.umstances

        December 26, 2013 at 6:47 pm |
      • Austin

        no, actually we are talking about something concrete, called intercession. and the topic is , "how sufficient is the Holy Spirit?
        that is no ridicule, that is a serious subject. I have one telling me that saying the hail mary is praying to God?

        Is that so? the subject is not ridicule, it is repeating the hail mary.
        ◄ 1 Timothy 2:5 ►

        For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,

        your reply which negates this bible verse, is not found in scripture as far as Mary having any relivence. This is religious fanaticism, and if flies in the face of ordained scripture.

        Is the Hail mary a prayer to Mary for intercession? What is wrong with the Holy Spirit ? How can add to God and His promise of the Holy Spirit. This is obvious idolatry.

        December 26, 2013 at 6:47 pm |
        • Maddy

          Hail, Mary, full of Grace, The Lord is with thee.
          Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb: Jesus.
          Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners,
          Now, and at the hour of our death.
          Amen

          Tell me, Austin, what is wrong with that? A plea for Mary, whom you seem to dismiss as irrelevant in Christ's story, to pray for a sinner as one human would pray for another, is wrong in your eyes?

          Stop. Bashing. Christians.

          You don't look like a righteous man. You look like a religious bigot.

          You are not filled with the Holy Spirit. You are filled with derision for something you willfully refuse to understand.

          December 26, 2013 at 7:06 pm |
        • Maddy

          And your claim that you have the gift of Exhortation is self-given, and in no way gives you any right to bash a billion Christians.

          December 26, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
        • Justice

          You're right, there is only One mediator. And, ones spirituality is based solely upon the condition of their heart. I don't imagine that anyone has the power to look at a monitor and evaluate their condition, nor do I believe that scriptural advise or counsel can be successful on the internet. There are guidelines in the Bible on ministering to people and serious people abide by them.

          Check, I know where you're going... Only the Christ, our co-creator, has the right to judge us by the condition of our hearts. He's not a terrorist and he doesn't use people to exercise judgement against us.

          December 26, 2013 at 7:25 pm |
        • Check

          Maddy,
          "You are not filled with the Holy Spirit. You are filled with derision for something you willfully refuse to understand."

          Austin thinks that he is a modern-day Paul of Tarsus (an 'inspired' prophet/teacher) - he (Austin) has even said as much. You seem to believe Paul's claims, with all of his misanthropic, misogynistic, body-hating, condemning writings. What makes you think that Paul was visited with the "gift", but not Austin?

          December 26, 2013 at 10:18 pm |
        • Austin

          if you take personally what i am talking about then you maybe should do so. I am talking to a million catholics in general, because at 1009 AD the stared praying to Mary, which is GARBAGE, and sac-religeous idolatry.

          The fact is, Mary is no different than every other small person that God used in a suprising place. From moses in the river, Joseph sold into slavery, or Isaiah, Daniel in the Den, Jeremiah in a cistern, Paul, Peter, Mary,

          WE DO NOT PRAY TO HUMANS. WE PRAY TO GOD. IT IS SO OBVIOUS. Praying to Mary BREAKS WHAT WE ARE TOLD IS ACCEPETABLE.

          2. You shall have no other gods but me.
          Exodus 20:4

          Exodus 20:4.

          Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

          that was true for a golden calf, and is certainly true for statues of Jesus OR MARY. and you do worhip them. If you kiss it, you are accessively devoted to this image. and that is worship.

          prayer
          pre(ə)r/
          noun
          noun: prayer; plural noun: prayers

          1.
          a solemn request for help or expression of thanks addressed to God or an object of worship.

          so you have made mary an object of WORSHIP, through prayer. this is not what the church claims "hyper adoration"

          YOU WORSHIP MARY. this breaks an important commandment. Again, this is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN

          December 26, 2013 at 11:56 pm |
        • G to the T

          I'm honestly trying to understand your objection here Austin, but i'm not certain. Is it that you feel "praying to" is equivalent to "worshipping"?

          If so, I could see your point, but I don't think that's how Catholics see it...

          December 30, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
    • sam stone

      you continue to have delusions of grandeur, austin

      no one gives a fvck for your counseling

      December 26, 2013 at 9:48 pm |
      • lol??

        You wandered off into a broad path of debate fail. Fess up to yer friends.

        December 27, 2013 at 10:07 am |
  16. Austin

    in the Catholic Encyclopedia concludes that "there is little or no trace of the Hail Mary as an accepted devotional formula before about 1050,"....wikipekia

    December 26, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
    • Maddy

      So?

      December 26, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
      • Austin

        unbiblical religiousity is dead or even worse.

        December 26, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
        • Maddy

          Everything about Catholicism is Biblically inspired.

          Unlike your religious bigotry. Although, come to think of it, I guess it isn't, is it , Pharisee?

          December 26, 2013 at 7:09 pm |
        • USMC 1371

          In other words catholicism took a fairytale and twisted it so they can justify the evil it does.

          December 26, 2013 at 9:25 pm |
        • Maddy

          I would say that would be true of any of the different sects of Christianity. Religion, after all, is made up of people.

          December 26, 2013 at 9:48 pm |
        • sam stone

          unbiblical religiousity is dead?

          you are deluded

          religiousity is as alive as the believer wants it to be

          whether or not it is biblical

          pompous fvck

          December 27, 2013 at 6:28 am |
      • Keith

        Sam is the man, thanks for telling Austin the truth

        December 27, 2013 at 9:49 am |
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