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January 7th, 2014
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Satanists unveil design for OK statehouse statueBy Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN) - Satanists have unveiled their design for a proposed statue at the Oklahoma state Capitol, including a place for people to sit on the devil's lap "for inspiration and contemplation." The New York-based Satanic Temple submitted its proposal to Oklahoma officials this month after applying for a spot on Capitol grounds late last year. The Satanists say their statue would "complement and contrast" with a Ten Commandments monument placed at the Capitol in Oklahoma City in 2012. The Satanists' proposed monument depicts Baphomet, a goat-headed pagan idol sitting on a 7-foot-tall throne inscribed with an inverted pentagram. In an artist's rendering provided by the Satanic Temple, smiling children look adoringly at the devilish figure. "The statue will serve as a beacon calling for compassion and empathy among all living creatures," Lucien Greaves, a spokesman for the Satanic Temple, said in a prepared statement. "The statue will also have a functional purpose as a chair where people of all ages may sit on the lap of Satan for inspiration and contemplation.” According to its Indiegogo page, the Satanists have raised more than $16,000 toward their goal of $20,000 for the monument, which Greaves said would "be a historical marker commemorating the scapegoats, the marginalized, the demonized minority and the unjustly outcast.” The Temple of Satan is less a religious body organized around rituals and regular meetings than a roving band of political provocateurs, according to Greaves. They believe Satan is a "literary construct," the spokesman said, not an actual being with horns and hooves. READ MORE: Satanists want statue next to Ten Commandments The proposed statue includes quotations from poets Lord Byron and William Blake. “Prisons are built with stones of Law, Brothels with bricks of Religion” runs the Blake quotation. The 18th-century poet was a Christian, albeit one with a mystical bent and little use for traditional morality. The statue's main figure, Baphomet, has long been associated with Satan, Greaves said. In the 12th century, the Knights Templar, a group of Christian crusaders, were accused of worshiping Baphomet in their secretive rituals. "From the mythology created by these accusations against the Templars, we now have a symbol for Satan pictured as a goat-headed beast," Greaves said. Since the 1960s, a variation of the horned goat head has been the official symbol of the Church of Satan, which is not affiliated with the Temple of Satan. The head of the Church of Satan has told CNN he does not approve of the idea of a Satanist statue on public grounds. Oklahoma state Rep. Paul Wesselhoft told CNN that he doesn't think the Satanists' statue will be approved. “What will disqualify them has really nothing to do with Satan as such; it's that it has no historical significance for the state of Oklahoma,” he said. Trait Thompson, chairman of Oklahoma's Capitol Preservation Committee, said he has not received the Satanists' proposed design yet. He also said that no applications will be considered until a lawsuit over the Ten Commandments monument is settled. The American Civil Liberties Union has sued over Oklahoma's Ten Commandments monument, calling it an unconstitutional government endorsement of religion. After news broke of the Satanists' proposal, the state was flooded with requests from religious groups seeking to erect monuments to their own faith, including Hindus and Pastafarians, a satirical religion that "worships" the Flying Spaghetti Monster. An Oklahoma lawmaker told CNN that the Satanists' message wouldn't fly in the Bible Belt state, where nearly two-thirds of the population is Christian. "Any monument displayed on state property should reflect the values of Oklahoma or memorialize those who built or defended our freedom," Rep. Bob Cleveland said Tuesday. "In my opinion, this Satanist monument does not meet with the values of Oklahomans." soundoff (3,489 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 Next »
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I wonder how this looks to cultures who have never heard of Satan?
Similar to cultures seeing a Jesus statue when they've never heard of him.
I don't believe in statues, I BELIEVE IN HIM.
Every boddy has HEARD of JESUS and satan; you don't need statues
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Satan is interesting because if he existed he would
a.) be the only atheist who believed in the existence of God.
b.) be the only god who's followers didn't think he existed
c.) would want his followers to worship him and still not have any gods which is impossible.
a. Satan is not an atheist. According to dogma, he is against god, therefor he must believe he exists.
b. not true. Devil worshipers definitely believe he exists (a little different from Satanism, however, who do not follow Satan, they follow self indulgence)
c. makes no sense at all. Doesn't look like you understand what Satanism actually is and the difference between that and devil worship.
Under a) your should clarify 'christian' dogma.
Other religions see it differently.
Satanism is a Jewish cult... Satan comes from the Jewish religion...
10 Commandments, Satan, people need to get over themselves and focus on the real issues when it comes to monuments in Oklahoma – those hideous Miss America statues on the campus of Oklahoma City University. If you are looking for a cause, do something about that!
You mean those are not monuments to the Nephilim? Darn it.
Dang. Looks like we'll have to fight for that one, next.
'Universe', do not be spewing thusly voluminously as below without prior vigorous spanking of backside of yourself and closely adjacent imam.
It is written, no more shall prodigious humping of imams and goats be accomplished without sanctified vestal goats present. We have ready goats present nearby in Tehran to satisfy said requirements. Prepare yourself for red posteriority and take the appropriate stance. If Allah is willing your soreness will eventually subside and you may get back to riding your camel and your usual monkey spanking so profusely.
Here it is written and must be so.
Here it is written and must be so.
Here it is written and must be so.
Said thricely. Pay attention even in your red blushness of present moment.
Neither monument is appropriate for a government site.
Based on the amount of people murdered by our government over the years, I'd say the demonic statue is perfect.
I so agree our government needs to stay secular. Religion is suppose to be separate it all needs to come down.
I think the happy Satan is adorable, and very funny. I think they should both stay up.
Yeah, cool! All in my name. About time we get equal representation amongst the brutal christian dominating war mongers.
Hell, Satan. God committed way more atrocities than you did by a long shot. I'm shocked more people don't realize this. I guess it's your fault for trying to teach Adam the truth that god was hiding from him.
"Nothing is wrong or incorrect. Everything is moral and acceptable. Have no conscience. Have no guilt."
It is the definition of a sociopath.
Are you suggesting that Satanists are sociopaths because they want equal representation?
And you point, Dudley?
http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html#
Sociopaths don't usually admit to being sociopaths. You can't get too far if you admit up front that you are a jerk.
Are you describing the God character of the Bible? Sounds like it.
Nailed it.
Thanks Barcs.
Many Christians believe in Divine Command Theory, which holds that whatever God does or commands is automatically good. Is this not a fairly accurate description of what we call a sociopath?
Quran says (Islamic Scripture)
“The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.” Quran [3:59]
“It does not befit God that He begets a son, be He glorified. To have anything done, He simply says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” [19:35]
“No soul can carry the sins of another soul. If a soul that is loaded with sins implores another to bear part of its load, no other soul can carry any part of it, even if they were related. ... [35:18]
“They even attribute to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims.” Quran [6:100]
“Recall that your Lord said to the angels, "I am placing a representative on Earth." They said, "Will You place therein one who will spread evil therein and shed blood, while we sing Your praises, glorify You, and uphold Your absolute authority?" He said, "I know what you do not know." [2:30]
“They say , "We live only this life; we will not be resurrected. If you could only see them when they stand before their Lord! He would say, "Is this not the truth?" They would say, "Yes, by our Lord." He would say, "You have incurred the retribution by your disbelief." [6:30]
“We have honored the children of Adam, and provided them with rides on land and in the sea. We provided for them good provisions, and we gave them greater advantages than many of our creatures.” Quran [17:70]
“O children of Adam, when messengers come to you from among you, and recite My revelations to you, those who take heed and lead a righteous life, will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.” Quran [7:35]
“O children of Adam, do not let the devil dupe you as he did when he caused the eviction of your parents from Paradise, and the removal of their garments to expose their bodies. He and his tribe see you, while you do not see them. We appoint the devils as companions of those who do not believe.” Quran [7:27]
“Losers indeed are those who disbelieve in meeting God, until the Hour comes to them suddenly, then say, "We deeply regret wasting our lives in this world." They will carry loads of their sins on their backs; what a miserable load! [6:31]
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As the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:
The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century
■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "
and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.
and more recently
1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured
1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh
2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured
3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. Iraqi civilians killed as of 05/10/2013/, 113,249-123,978 mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]
5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.
6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.
7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.
8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.
9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.
10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror
11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.
12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.
13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,
14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.
15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.
16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.
17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.
18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.
19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011
20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011
21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.
22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.
23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "
o 24) Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:18am EDT
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BAGHDAD (Reuters) – A suicide bomber detonated an explosive-packed car outside a Shi'ite Muslim office in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 26 people and wounding more than 190 in an attack bearing the hallmarks of Iraq's al Qaeda affiliate.
The bombing on a Shi'ite religious office comes at a sensitive time, with the country's fractious Shi'ite, Sunni and Kurdish blocs locked in a crisis that threatens to unravel their power-sharing deal and spill into sectarian tensions."
25) BURGAS, Bulgaria | Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:27am EDT
(Reuters) – A suicide bomber carried out an attack that killed seven people in a bus transporting Israeli tourists in Bulgaria, the interior minister said on Thursday, and Israel said Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants were to blame.
26 ) September 12, 2012
U.S. AMBASSADOR KILLED
Envoy to Libya dies in rocket blast
27) Boston Marathon horror – April 2013, four dead, hundreds injured and maimed for life. A
And for those Muslims who want to escape their religion of terror and horror:
From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi----–
The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)
Are you ready?
Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.
The First Five of the 77 Branches:
"1. Belief in Allah"
aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.
"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."
Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".
"3. To believe in the existence of angels."
A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.
"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.
Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.
Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.
"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings
be upon him) alone."
Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!
Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.
Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..
'Universe', do not be spewing thusly voluminously as above without prior vigorous spanking of backside of yourself and closely adjacent imam.
It is written, no more shall prodigious humping of imams and goats be accomplished without sanctified vestal goats present. We have ready goats present nearby in Tehran to satisfy said requirements. Prepare yourself for red posteriority and take the appropriate stance. If Allah is willing your soreness will eventually subside and you may get back to riding your camel and your usual monkey spanking so profusely.
Here it is written and must be so.
Here it is written and must be so.
Here it is written and must be so.
Said thricely. Pay attention even in your red blushness of present moment.
May the love of the Prince of this World be extended to all the hateful christains. May all the misguided christains find peace and contentment in the arms of the true Master.
Thank you
Satan
May somebody show up somewhere, one of them, any of them.
That would be an awesome day.
Hark the atheists are bored
Hail Plejarin overlord
Late at night you hear my screams
Not to worry, just bad dreams
Christians scream "A brunette died"
While I lay here horrified
Hey agnostic ain't it odd
That someone thinks they saw their god?
I still wonder what they'd say
If you could ask the CIA
What the white whale was to Ahab, has been hinted; what, at times, he was to me, as yet remains unsaid.
Um- isn't that a statue of Baphomet?
Try reading the article first, then post.
Hail Satan!
Where?
Satan is everywhere. Just look at the trees and the earth. It's all evidence for Satan. You can't blame me because you are too stubborn to see it. It's apparent! 🙂
Brings a whole new meaning to "Pan" theism, doesn't it?
Friday, Jan 10, 2014 01:54 PM UTC
Why this satanic goat statue has the Christian right so freaked out
The pagan idol reveals the hypocrisy at the heart of so much fundamentalism
Amanda Marcotte, Alternet
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/10/why_this_satanic_goat_statue_has_the_christian_right_so_freaked_out_partner/
No matter what happens, the Satanic Temple wins. Due to the Establishment Clause, either A) the statue may go up or B) the Ten Commandment statue must be removed. Legally, the Ten Commandment statue should not even be there. I have no issues with it existing, but not on Capitol grounds. That directly and blatantly violates separation of church and state. But goddammit, us Oklahomans love us our God, so it's OK. -rolls eyes- All religion is hypocrisy, so find one you can sleep with at night. But yes, Christian Oklahomans SHOULD be worried. They've already lost.
I give it a day, maybe a few hours before it's defaced completely and hauled off for scrap.
Yup. That's the Christian way. Whatever you disagree with, destroy. All non christian beliefs are automatically wrong. 😆
Tyranny in the name of "love". The "Christian" value.
And how do you feel about that Byrd?
Hello,
I appreciate your comments on my posting...
Peace!!!
Given the replies, it sure looks like you like to assume the position. Must be hard to sit down afterward, I guess.
god vs. satan...
odin vs. loki
ra vs. set
all look same.
I'm sure it is the same. Though I doubt very much if its two kids pictured above both have the same mom.
Little known facts, both Set and Shiva the destroyer were red heads. Also Loki was the mother rather than the father of an eight legged horse. The horse's actual father was a horse named "unlucky traveler".
Listen to yourself? Good grief talk about uneducated AND deranged!
what next?,
ALL you have to offer is INSULTS.
Why not grow up and TRY to act like an adult?
Why would you say I'm uneducated. I have a degree not pertaining to mythos. I'm just a myth geek. Did you know that the hippocampus was named after a Sea Horse? Now you do.
Whereas eating human flesh and drinking blood is not deranged at all! 😆
The concept that a god transports itself to a tiny planet to become it's own child with the expressed intent of sacrificing itself to itself in order to reanimate itself so that it may rejoin itself in order to teach valuable lessons is as absurd a bulls*** story as can possibly be imagined. Nobody could be so gullible as to reasonably be expected to buy that! Right?
But red heads are the hottest and most freaky. They also came from Neanderthals (the first light skinned hom_onids)
You should look up the Lesula. I don't know where it falls on the evolutionary line up but it's funny to see it.
Wow, those guys have a really cool looking face. I could easily see them being human cousins.
Quantum Mechanics deals with Matter and it's conversion from energy, we know what energy is, we believe the funddamentals of Matter to be quarks and as they say the rest is history.
Energy is eternal and innate to all, including God.
The reason as to why Gravity would not join the other 3 forces(Strong Force, Weak Force and Electro-magnetic force) is because Gravity is not a force its an attraction, cause by the curvature of the fabric of space. All scientist know that it is not Gravity that form the Stars and Planets but Electro-Magnetism, then Gravity kicks in.
All objects in the Universe has this attraction. It is seen more so in Starts and Planets because of their mass.
All objects including Particles and Sub-Atomic Particles has the attraction(Gravity).
To say that Gravity is just a force is to exclude the other factors such as action and properties. While as an attraction these factors (Action, Power(Force) and Properties) are taken into consideration.
These factors are taken into consideration to determine the degree of attraction.
The end must be near because everything is becoming crazier by the day.
How so?
Because my monkey looks at me very oddly, lately. Join me on Sprockets and you'll see for yourself.
And how is Klaus, that little coquette?
Weird. My monkey just hides in the closet all day and occasionally pops out to point at me and give an evil grin.
I hope you're not joking? Because you're right.
In UK several years ago the then Archbishop of York proclaimed publicly that the Resurrection of Jesus never happened – that it was a myth...........immediately afterwards York Minster spire was destroyed by lightning! Seriously.
Religion is funny. When piles of physical evidence add up, it is dismissed by non scientists as completely false, yet for something like that, which is complete coincidence is it called the proof of end times. Such low standards of scrutiny and critical thinking...
mzh , do not be spewing thusly voluminously without prior vigorous spanking of backside of yourself and closely adjacent imam.
It is written, no more shall prodigious humping of imams and goats be accomplished without sanctified vestal goats present. We have ready goats present nearby in Tehran to satisfy said requirements pre- and post- paste. Prepare yourself for red posteriority and take the appropriate stance. If Allah is willing your soreness will eventually subside and you may get back to riding your camel and your usual monkey spanking so profusely.
Here it is written and must be so.
Here it is written and must be so.
Here it is written and must be so.
Said thricely. Pay attention even in your red blushness of present moment.