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January 8th, 2014
01:38 PM ET
Holy Hitchhiker: Pope gives pal a ride on the PopemobileBy Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor Follow @BurkeCNN(CNN) - In yet another breach of normal papal protocol, Pope Francis on Wednesday gave a pal a lift on the world's most exclusive ride: the Popemobile. According to Catholic News Service, the holy hitchhiker was the Rev. Fabian Baez, a priest from Francis' former Archdiocese of Buenos Aires, whom the pope spotted in the crowd at St. Peter's Square. As he helped the priest onto the Popemobile, Francis told Baez, "The picture will go around the world,” CNS reports. The beaming priest rode around St. Peter's Square and was given a special seat at the Pope's speech to the crowd. During the Pope's speech, he urged the crowd to remember their baptism. "Many of us do not have the slightest memory of the celebration of this Sacrament, obviously, if we were baptized shortly after birth," Francis said. "It is important! It is important to know what day you were immersed in that current of salvation of Jesus!" Baez later tweeted in Spanish, “I’m going to change my biography. The poor priest who got on the popemobile today with #PopeFrancis”. Mark another point for the "Pope of the people."
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Really Brian, In fifty years on this earth I have never seen that happen. Perhaps I am not hanging out with cool people like you.
This is like; who cares? Well, probably idolaters, atheists and romanists-catholics-papists do care about this asinine stuff.
Seriously? People STILL use the word "papist"? Or did you just time-travel from the 18th century?
Let me spell it for you P A P I S T S or P A P I S T in singular, also I D O L A T E R or R O M A N I S T S.
why is everybody saying the pope is still in rome? i know the real pope jumped into the pope mobile and paddled down to the philippines as soon as the hurrican hit and is still down there making miracles happen...
He did a good job on the Jesus statue that is still standing.
why is everybody saying the pope is still in rome,i know for a fact that the real pope jumped in the pope mobile and swam down to the philappines as soon as the hurricane hit and is still down there making miracles happen...
That was close. Glad it wasn't Mehmet Ali Ağca they picked up...now that would have been a "Surprise, surprise!" ala Gomer Pile.
Francis, Francis, Francis,
Haven't we brought you up to the 21st yet? In case you forgot:
The Apostles' Creed 2013: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)
Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??
I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)
Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,
He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
Jerusalem.
Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.
Amen
(references used are available upon request)
cool
story
bro
Whatever, dude (and all the rest of you freakout whacko religious nutjobs posting here) – I think you need to spend some more time outside in the apparently loathsome sunshine. I'm not remotely religious, and I am not too easily impressed, but this fellow has clearly picked up where JP2 left the path, and it's a breath of fresh air to see someone like the Pope in selfies. Lighten up, he appears to be doing a great job so far.
Fairy tale!
And your point? Just a story about two old friends, not about the history of Christianity. A little OCD there?
We all have friends. We don't use them to promote a severely flawed religion to include no historical proof of the papacy.
In his role Playing GOD in "OH GOD", George Burns can still be heard saying:"Man has made so many religions even I can't keep up with them. Religion is man's thing. Faith though, that's from me.:
Faith is a gift. Like singing, or playing music. It can be cultivated with deep abiding desire to do so. But most of the time, you either have it or you don't...that's the breaks kid. Sorry.
Nice try, but no kewpie doll for you.
It comes down to a matter of trust. Do I trust what you and your references say or do I trust what Matthew, Mark, Luke and John have to say? And I fully understand their were no tape recorders present, etc. I also fully understand that what I trust in may be not be true. But I have this Faith/Trust that those events actually did happen, and mostly as reported. You apparently do not share that view, and that's okay with me. You have your reasons and I have mine.
Some of the references used to update the Apostles' Creed:
o 1. Historical Jesus Theories, earlychristianwritings.com/theories.htm – the names of many of the contemporary historical Jesus scholars and the ti-tles of their over 100 books on the subject.
2. Early Christian Writings, earlychristianwritings.com/
– a list of early Christian doc-uments to include the year of publication–
30-60 CE Passion Narrative
40-80 Lost Sayings Gospel Q
50-60 1 Thessalonians
50-60 Philippians
50-60 Galatians
50-60 1 Corinthians
50-60 2 Corinthians
50-60 Romans
50-60 Philemon
50-80 Colossians
50-90 Signs Gospel
50-95 Book of Hebrews
50-120 Didache
50-140 Gospel of Thomas
50-140 Oxyrhynchus 1224 Gospel
50-200 Sophia of Jesus Christ
65-80 Gospel of Mark
70-100 Epistle of James
70-120 Egerton Gospel
70-160 Gospel of Peter
70-160 Secret Mark
70-200 Fayyum Fragment
70-200 Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
73-200 Mara Bar Serapion
80-100 2 Thessalonians
80-100 Ephesians
80-100 Gospel of Matthew
80-110 1 Peter
80-120 Epistle of Barnabas
80-130 Gospel of Luke
80-130 Acts of the Apostles
80-140 1 Clement
80-150 Gospel of the Egyptians
80-150 Gospel of the Hebrews
80-250 Christian Sibyllines
90-95 Apocalypse of John
90-120 Gospel of John
90-120 1 John
90-120 2 John
90-120 3 John
90-120 Epistle of Jude
93 Flavius Josephus
100-150 1 Timothy
100-150 2 Timothy
100-150 T-itus
100-150 Apocalypse of Peter
100-150 Secret Book of James
100-150 Preaching of Peter
100-160 Gospel of the Ebionites
100-160 Gospel of the Nazoreans
100-160 Shepherd of Hermas
100-160 2 Peter
4. Jesus Database, http://www.faithfutures.o-rg/JDB/intro.html –"The JESUS DATABASE is an online a-nnotated inventory of the traditions concerning the life and teachings of Jesus that have survived from the first three centuries of the Common Era. It includes both canonical and extra-canonical materials, and is not limited to the traditions found within the Christian New Testament."
5. Josephus on Jesus mtio.com/articles/bis-sar24.htm
6. The Jesus Seminar, http://en.wikipedia.o-rg/wiki/Jesus_Seminar
7. http://www.biblicalartifacts.com/items/785509/item785509biblicalartifacts.html – books on the health and illness during the time of the NT
8. Economics in First Century Palestine, K.C. Hanson and D. E. Oakman, Palestine in the Time of Jesus, Fortress Press, 1998.
9.The Gn-ostic Jesus
(Part One in a Two-Part Series on A-ncient and Modern G-nosticism)
by Douglas Gro-othuis: http://www.equip.o-rg/articles/g-nosticism-and-the-g-nostic-jesus/
10. The interpretation of the Bible in the Church, Pontifical Biblical Commission
Presented on March 18, 1994
ewtn.com/library/CURIA/PBCINTER.HTM#2
11. The Jesus Database- newer site:
wiki.faithfutures.o-rg/index.php?t-itle=Jesus_Database
12. Jesus Database with the example of S-u-pper and Eucharist:
faithfutures.o-rg/JDB/jdb016.html
13. Josephus on Jesus by Paul Maier:
mtio.com/articles/bis-sar24.htm
13. http://www.textweek.com/mtlk/jesus.htmm- Historical Jesus Studies
14. The Greek New Testament: laparola.net/greco/
15. D-iseases in the Bible:
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_d-iseases_of_the_Bible.html?id=C1YZAAAAYAAJ
16. Religion on- Line (6000 a-rt-ic-les on the hi-story of religion, churches, theologies,
theologians, eth-ics, etc. religion-online.o–rg/
17. The New Testament Gateway – Internet NT n-tgate-way.com/
18 Writing the New Testament- e-xi-sting copies, o–r–al tradition etc.
n-tgat-eway.com/
19. JD Crossan's c-onclusions about the a-uthencity of most of the NT based on the above plus the c-onclusions of other NT e-xege-tes in the last 200 years:
http://wiki.faithfutures.o-rg/index.p-hp?t-itle=Crossan_Inventory
20. Early Jewish Writings- Josephus and his books by t-itle with the complete translated work in English :earlyjewishwritings.com/josephus.html
21. Luke and Josephus- was there a c-onnection?
in-fidels.o-rg/library/modern/richard_carrier/lukeandjosephus.html
22. NT and beyond time line:
pbs.o-rg/empires/pe-terandpaul/history/timeline/
23. St. Paul's Time line with discussion of important events:
harvardhouse.com/prophetictech/new/pauls_life.htm
24. See http://www.amazon.com for a list of JD Crossan's books and those of the other Jesus Seminarians: Reviews of said books are included and selected pages can now be viewed on Amazon. Some books can be found on-line at Google Books.
25. Father Edward Schillebeeckx's words of wisdom as found in his books.
27. The books of the following : Professors Gerd Ludemann, Marcus Borg, Paula Fredriksen, Elaine Pagels, Karen Armstrong and Bishop NT Wright.
28. Father Raymond Brown's An Introduction to the New Testament, Doubleday, NY, 1977, 878 pages, with Nihil obstat and Imprimatur.
29. Luke Timothy Johnson's book The Real Jesus
jesus was not likely buried at all but left on the cross to rot. Pilate would not allow anyone to be removed from the cross. They stayed even after there was no flesh left..
The RCC create the BIG lie
Added details;
Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/
From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15: 14, Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."
Even now Catholic/Christian professors (e.g.Notre Dame, Catholic U, Georgetown) of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.
To wit;
From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:
"Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.
Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.
Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.
The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.
Only Luke records it. (Luke mentions it in his gospel and Acts, i.e. a single attestation and therefore historically untenable). The Ascension ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers.
The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "
"In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM
The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.
With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:
An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,
p.4
"Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."
p.168. by Ted Peters:
Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "
So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.
Giving a buddy a ride in your car–only a SuperPope would do that! No ordinary mortal would ever give someone a ride.
Seeing as the Pope's car was made for HIS security, it's a reportable newsworthy item... so glad it moved you to respond.
Yeah, because it's not like that compromises security and could theoretically lead to him being KILLED, which is where the Popemobile came from in the first place. Clearly it's nothing special!
/sarcasm
When you say the word "pope" in a group of people they start laughing. Wonder why.
Really Brian, In fifty years on this earth I have never seen that happen. Perhaps I am not hanging out with cool people like you.
actually, people think pedophilia' <– reality
"like" lol... Pope is a Rockstar!!! Tesla would be proud. TP
When it comes right down to it, the ONLY thing that matters is " J e s u s "... without the shedding of His blood there is NO remission of SIN!
In Jesus,
Calvin
and if there weren't a death penalty, there would be no jesus
Added details:
Again the problem is in the history. Did Jesus a simple preacher man, an illiterate rabbi at best, establish a church? No, based on the lack of historical proof e.g. "Thou art Peter" (Matt 16: 18-19) passage only appears in one gospel." Matthew, whoever he was, was therefore a part founder/"necessary accessory" of the Catholic Church, as was Mark, Luke, John, Paul, James his brother, Mary Magdalene, Mary, Joseph and another father if you believe the mamzer stories, the Apostles and Pilate. It was a team effort with Pilate being the strangest "necessary accessory".
And let us not forget Constantine as another "necessary accessory".
Aside from the total lack of evidence for anything you said, that's pretty impressive . . . in a ridiculous idiotic way.
That is a very holy way of saying, "Ahh... that's nothing. I'm not jealous of the pope, I'm not."
you mean disgusted with the con man. He denies abused children and continues the cover ups
This pope is a Godsend.
that is exactly what the hitchhiker said
Catholic haters of the Constitution are on a censorship frenzy here today.
Keep showing us your anti-American bigotry, boys!
no catholic haters,, You sound like a little kid "You hate me mommy"
The people you confuse with hating are children victims, their families and those who care for children.
I might add,, a good and honest group doing GOD'S work
i meant "Catholics who are haters," not "people who hate Catholics."
K..
Catholic League president is always complaining like a little kid.." you hate catholics"
I know who you are talking about. He acts like a thug.
Francis gave Fabian a ride in his car. How fabulous! Fabian must have had stars in his eyes! Francis is just delicious!
he made him ride in the back seat under his robe...late for the RECTUMrey
Gee, the Catholic League censors are out today. Anyone who doesn't squee over the pope's every move is subject to being reported for abuse.
doobzz
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Tutuvabene
Francis wasn't exalthing himself in saying "The picture will go around the world.” He was simply acknowledging the truth that the papacy attracts wide attention. The Pope is a guy who likes to have fun in his work. Too bad more folks can't say the same.
January 8, 2014 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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Bulls.hit. This guy is working the media harder than a priest working an altar boy.
January 8, 2014 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply
Somebody got their panties in a wad, lol.
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they aren't an honest group. It's all about themselves and don't care what children they step on
Let's see you use profanity, make a crude reference to pedophilia and you're shocked your comment was moderated?
Some perfectly tame comments went as well.
Do you often get the vapors, grandma?
Yes, I had at least five comments deleted for bringing up facts/reality about the RCC. I've never seen censorship so bad on this blog. But, Donahue and the rest of the Catholic League are a very powerful syndicate.
Reblogged this on Madcap Mary and commented:
Pope Francis–coolest guy on the planet!
Was Jesus the coolest one while on earth ? I say He was and still is. So many things in Catholicism are erroneous error for the simple minded. Do YOU believe in Purgatory as well. Please put ALL your trust in Jesus & not in a unbiblical Pope...
In Jesus,
Calvin
Is Jesus walking around on the planet today? No. Therefore, your post is absurd.
Hey Calvin, wake up..as a none catholic I view Pope Francis as the first pope in my 60+ years as a man who walks in the footsteps of the one you praise. He is not responsible for what his church has done but for what it will do.
There are many people in the world trying to make it a better world.
So, I sure hope your happy.
So a priest gives a friend a ride in the Popemobile, and somehow that's newsworthy? The fact that he told the priest "this will be seen around the world" makes it seems like everything he does, he does just for the attention. Tsk, tsk.
He gives a personal friend a ride in his car, and Catholics are amazed?
you mean the cathoholics? Not many left. Most are priests here in disguise along with catholic league folk who call victims of lost lives liars
"Most [commenters] are priests in disguise, etc..."
Then you have nothing to worry about. Even though it looks like lots of people from all over the world really like this Pope, and are posting their thoughts on CNN for other people to discuss, you've figured it all out and are here with lots of evidence to the contrary.
...,,,instead of addressing those with destroyed lives,, this pope deflects..
here are more of the catholic church's lies..
The bishops paid John Jay college to write a study of clergy abuse in the catholic church. Data was to be gotten FROM THE BISHOPS for the report. Yes, from some of those who abused and all who covered it up.
In the end, the Bishops presented this data as fact,, after all, it came from John Jay college a criminal justice college.
Yet NO victims or families were asked to provide data, only from bishops. No information that this study was to take place. In the end, the bishops said "See. Even John Jay College states our abuses are within the norm." What a scam.
Next, they need to prove that there are more abuses in public schools. Using their contacts, such a report was produced. This report surveyed students to find out if they have been abused. Surveyed.. meaning they were sought out. This report showed a high level of abuses. It included mostly STUDENT on STUDENT ,, yep, that's right. More so there were no pedo acts of so-domy where the child wasn't cared for. Report also included incidents as 'Mary, that's a nice dress you are wearing'
On the other hand, the victims of the catholic church were NOT surveyed,, these were abused children who came forward on their own. Imagine how many if SURVEYED! And when a child was found out, the diocese threatened the child from telling while protecting the pedo.
Most victims of the catholic church that came forward were sod-mized,, and 40% were of pedophilia.
The bishops, cardinals and popes are con men,, deceiving and manipulative.
Really this Pope is not a Jim and Tammy Bakker nor Jimmy Swagger protestants "pastors"
Really this Pope is being attacked by Protestants because their "pastors" are afraid of losing membership due to the example of real pastoral duties that Pope Francis shows.
Really that Pope Francis is showing a real path toward Christ by example, leadership, and spiritual thinking.
Long live Pope Francis and the Catholic ( Universal) church founded by Saint Peter and not for "pastors" from the 1700 and 1800 centuries.
But what does that comment have to do with the story?
really? Actually he is being shunned as a con by children victims, their families and those who care for children.
Quite an honorable group.. Some might say these people are doing GOD'S work
...........,instead of addressing those with destroyed lives,, this pope deflects..
here are more of the catholic church's lies..
The bishops paid John Jay college to write a study of clergy abuse in the catholic church. Data was to be gotten FROM THE BISHOPS for the report. Yes, from some of those who abused and all who covered it up.
In the end, the Bishops presented this data as fact,, after all, it came from John Jay college a criminal justice college.
Yet NO victims or families were asked to provide data, only from bishops. No information that this study was to take place. In the end, the bishops said "See. Even John Jay College states our abuses are within the norm." What a scam.
Next, they need to prove that there are more abuses in public schools. Using their contacts, such a report was produced. This report surveyed students to find out if they have been abused. Surveyed.. meaning they were sought out. This report showed a high level of abuses. It included mostly STUDENT on STUDENT ,, yep, that's right. More so there were no pedo acts of so-domy where the child wasn't cared for. Report also included incidents as 'Mary, that's a nice dress you are wearing'
On the other hand, the victims of the catholic church were NOT surveyed,, these were abused children who came forward on their own. Imagine how many if SURVEYED! And when a child was found out, the diocese threatened the child from telling while protecting the pedo.
Most victims of the catholic church that came forward were sod-mized,, and 40% were of pedophilia.
The bishops, cardinals and popes are con men,, deceiving and manipulative.
Is he? Jesus said I and my father are one yet walk into any catholic church and all around you you will find carved likeness of God.
I'm Catholic and all I can say is, I truly love our Pope! Such a breath of fresh air, reminding all of us of the Glory of God, not the hubris of man.
the pope's a joke
Considering he told his guest "This picture will go around the world," the Pope has his fair share of hubris.
Oh ye of little faith have not you heard Psalm 146:3-Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.