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January 19th, 2014
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  1. 00 00

    not one jot or t i t t l e

    January 19, 2014 at 10:28 pm |
    • The Gospel of Larry

      No titties?!?! Well forget it then.

      January 19, 2014 at 10:34 pm |
  2. Captain Howdy

    Once upon a time hearing someone shouting profanities about Jesus and or YHWH was a horror movie script, now it's an every day event on CNN belief blog.

    January 19, 2014 at 9:42 pm |
    • tony

      Oh my gawd.

      January 19, 2014 at 10:46 pm |
    • Barry Christ

      Would you care to share the names of those horror films?

      (Silence will follow)

      January 19, 2014 at 10:52 pm |
      • Captain Howdy

        Your not much for movie trivia are you? Go watch "The Exorcist".

        January 20, 2014 at 5:51 pm |
    • Alias

      I hate that too.
      Let's learn how to live from the bible:
      When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

      January 19, 2014 at 11:41 pm |
      • Captain Howdy

        For most people I recommend taking what they like out of a religion and leaving the rest, in your case I'll reconsider that idea.

        January 20, 2014 at 5:53 pm |
    • No Evidence

      It's fun shouting profanities about mythological characters!

      January 20, 2014 at 3:44 pm |
      • Captain Howdy

        Yes, but what good is a tirade if it's not followed by a half hour of back flips while screaming "Make it stop!" in between complaints.

        January 20, 2014 at 5:54 pm |
  3. Robert Raulerson

    Religion is where insanity meets sanity and you can't tell who is krazy and who isn't. They all believe the same things. If you believe in 'demonic possession' then how do you know those two poor kids weren't possessed?

    January 19, 2014 at 9:09 pm |
  4. anthrogirl

    I'm Catholic and I have yet to meet a fellow Catholic who believes in exorcism.

    January 19, 2014 at 7:31 pm |
    • saggyroy

      I guess you aren't a "real" Catholic then.

      January 19, 2014 at 8:08 pm |
    • Glen Fiddich

      That makes you a heretic. Good thing you are alive now and not during the Inquisition, eh?

      January 19, 2014 at 9:18 pm |
    • Alias

      Do you believe in slavery?
      Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
      Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

      January 19, 2014 at 11:40 pm |
      • Fran

        I don't know any Christians that own slaves. I do know Christians that are from slaves.

        January 20, 2014 at 12:09 am |
        • Fran

          are descended from slaves.

          January 20, 2014 at 12:09 am |
        • In Santa we trust

          I'll bet you know christians descended from slaveowners.

          January 20, 2014 at 11:18 am |
        • Fran

          Yes, that, too. I know atheists that descended from slave owners, too. And they, like Christians, don't support slavery today.

          January 20, 2014 at 11:29 am |
        • No Evidence

          Christians are slaves to an imaginary god.

          January 20, 2014 at 3:54 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      But you have heard of Pope Francis?

      January 20, 2014 at 6:01 pm |
  5. saggyroy

    Careerbuilder.com has ad after ad for Exorcists, but most of them want at least 10 years experience.

    January 19, 2014 at 7:25 pm |
    • Wally Wally Bing Bang

      I bought the K-Tel Exorcism-O-Matic, two for the price of one if you act now, but it was a flop. I used it one Dick Cheney and he still is the son of Satan.

      January 19, 2014 at 9:21 pm |
      • No Evidence

        I've seen those kits in the backs of comic books along with the x-ray glasses.

        January 20, 2014 at 10:36 am |
  6. "Bible" Phil

    Matt 7:21-23- "Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord,+ did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’+ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’

    Exorcism is not proof of Gods favor. Even Mediums can preform spiritualistic practices!

    Exorcism is one of many Satan's tools to keep people away from worshiping the true God. And as shown in the news below its is very harmful!

    January 19, 2014 at 6:53 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Bible Phil..how do you know that "you" worship the "true god", how can you be so certain that it is not another of "satans tricks". I bet that you are not a catholic, and look at their bizarre practices with disdain as only you have the correct methods of appeasing your alien master.

      January 19, 2014 at 8:03 pm |
      • Bible Phil

        Evolved- how I know the religion I practice is the right one? Well, grab the bible, read it, and think on about what your reading...and compare the message of the Christ with the religions that you see around you and ask yourself... Is this religion teaching this? Those this religion practise what is teaching?

        If your an atheist you might be in a position where you can make a neutral judgment not based on what religion you were taught about, but based on what you learned what the bible really says!

        January 19, 2014 at 10:56 pm |
        • Curiouser and Curiouser

          @Phil: "Those this religion practise what is teaching?"

          WTF?!?!?!

          January 19, 2014 at 11:00 pm |
        • Alias

          Here's a quote from the bible:
          However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

          Amen?

          January 19, 2014 at 11:38 pm |
        • Bible Phil

          Alias- look at the context:

          "43 You must not treat him cruelly, and you must be in fear of your God. " Lev 25:43

          Also check our this instruction given to the master of a slave:

          Col 4:1: "you masters, treat your slaves in a righteous and fair way, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven."

          January 20, 2014 at 12:36 am |
        • Dandintac

          So as long as Christians treat their slaves in a "fair and righteous" manner, such as not beating them so bad that they die in a day or two, then slavery is okay, and slaves should make sure and obey their masters? Do I have that right?

          January 20, 2014 at 12:42 am |
        • Bible Phil

          Danditac-the slaves of those times were very different from today's slavery. In fact after a certain period of time, the master has to release his slave, but often the slave would choose continuing with his master... The slave would become part of the family. modern slavery is connected to bad things, but slavery of that time was not like you see today, at least under Gods ancient people.

          January 20, 2014 at 12:59 am |
        • Bible Phil

          Dindac- If you think about it, all of us are "slaves" of something... We are "slaves" of the country we live in, we are obligated to accomplish the laws of the land... We are "slaves" of our employer... If we don't comply with their policy, then we can be fired... It that a bad "slavery"? Not really.

          January 20, 2014 at 1:04 am |
        • Dandintac

          No–we are NOT slaves. One might claim such in the figurative sense, but we are talking about literal slavery here. We can be fired, sure. But we can quit too. Employment is a mutual agreement. Not so slavery. Slaves are bought and sold. They are not fired and they certainly can't quit. Workers and citizens have RIGHTS. Slaves have none.

          You are desperately trying to rationalize away something that is profoundly immoral. You are watering down the meaning of the term "slave" to the point where anyone and everyone can be called a slave. No. This is bullsh!t.

          January 20, 2014 at 1:34 am |
        • Cpt. Obvious

          Oh, how utterly ridiculous. God could have just made one of the commandments, "Don't own another person." Silly god.

          January 20, 2014 at 1:30 am |
        • Bible Phil

          Cpt- is your country and employer silly?!
          Even is those slaves were not in Israel... They would of been "slaves" at their homeland, serving their King that often would treat them like garbage.

          January 20, 2014 at 1:35 am |
        • Bible Phil

          Dindac – Again, slavery of those time were not like the Afro-American slavery... Either you want to acknowledge or not you have to obey the laws of your land... Period.. Or you will go to jail. That's a type of "slavery", though, if accomplish the law it will result in good for you.

          The bible says as well that you can work for God as a "slave" or be a "slave" to you Desires, or a "slave of this world dominated by satan... You choose! And see what's the best Master!

          January 20, 2014 at 1:42 am |
        • Good slavery, the kind a god would be okay with

          Ah, the good kind of slavery. Like how modern sex slavery is better than the African-American slavery of the old South. Gotcha. Makes sense if you don't think about it.

          January 20, 2014 at 2:37 am |
        • Dandintac

          Phil,

          I know this kinder gentler slavery is the current meme among Christian apologists–"more of a servant really", but it is a claim with no basis in fact.

          These are the facts you are ignoring: The Bible makes it clear that slaves, at least non-Hebrew slaves, could be kept in slavery forever. There was no requirement for manumission. The could be bought, sold, and inherited. They could also be beaten–even to death, as long as they didn't die right away, but lingered for a day or two.

          This is total abject slavery–no different in any significant way from slavery in the antebellum south. Merely claiming it is different does not make it so.

          It is profoundly immoral then, and it still is. Any sort of moral God could have outlawed easily and instantly. It could have been made one of the ten commandments. But God clearly condoned it and expected it, and Jesus and St. Paul urged slaves to obey their masters.

          Your argument fails.

          January 20, 2014 at 2:46 am |
        • G to the T

          "Danditac-the slaves of those times were very different from today's slavery. In fact after a certain period of time, the master has to release his slave, but often the slave would choose continuing with his master... The slave would become part of the family. modern slavery is connected to bad things, but slavery of that time was not like you see today, at least under Gods ancient people."

          This old chestnut again. Have you actually researched the issue or did you just accept what someone else told you? While other jews might have fallen under this kind of "indentured servitude", gentiles were NOT so lucky and were treated as PROPERTY. This is because they didn't "count" as "people". How else could you justify killing all the males in a society and taking their women as slaves.

          January 20, 2014 at 10:13 am |
        • doobzz

          Christian apologists love to drag out this argument, that somehow ancient desert dwellers were more humane and kinder to foreigners that they captured and kept.

          Like Abraham, for example. His wife talked him into raping her Egyptian slave and getting her pregnant. Then Sarai got jealous of the slave, and Abraham, upstanding man of god that he was, said, Hey, she's your slave, you deal with her. So Sarah "dealt with her harshly". I guess that means she hugged and kissed her too much, because pregnant Hagar ran away into the desert to get away from her. Yeah, that sounds so much better than "modern slavery". And Abraham was such a great guy that god used him as the founder of three major religions.

          January 20, 2014 at 10:46 am |
        • Cpt. Obvious

          Bible Phil, I'm sure you thought you were addressing my point, but no. Try again?

          January 20, 2014 at 11:05 am |
        • EvolvedDNA

          Bible Phil..you have no more evidence for your god than other religions. You are just one more hopeful amongst thousands of gods. The bible is no more proof of Christ than Harry Potter is proof of magic wands. And what does the Bible teach you that was not known by the human race before it turned up? There absolutely nothing in your bible, or other religious texts that tells us things we did not know at the time. Perhaps a description of how the sun generates its heat and light would have made an impact.

          January 20, 2014 at 8:19 pm |
  7. Dandintac

    If there is indeed an increase in interest for exorcisms, then it is bad news for children. This religious lunacy gets children hurt and killed.

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaqYc0far3M&w=640&h=360]

    It's one more way in which religious beliefs are harmful.

    January 19, 2014 at 6:48 pm |
    • james

      I don't think Monifa Denise Sanford (the mother) is only a religious lunatic. She has mental illness and she's supposed to be going to therapy on a regular basis. Google her name for more details.

      January 19, 2014 at 7:38 pm |
      • EvolvedDNA

        James how can you tell the difference? if hearing "god" in your head is an acceptable product of belief, how can you determine which voice is gods and which one is not.. It is all delusion and is very dangerous.

        January 19, 2014 at 7:56 pm |
      • Dandintac

        James,

        I would argue that religion itself–certainly the desert religions of Abraham, are a form of mass madness. Religion allows people to believe by the billions what only lunatics could believe on their own.

        Now, I know the vast majority of adherents to religion are good decent, rational people. They quarantine their beliefs from their rationality by "not taking it literally" and other rationalizations. They cherry-pick their religion for the bits and pieces that conform to their western secular enlightenment values. I'm glad that they do, considering the worse alternative.

        However, I believe the wall separating the capacity to truly believe the claims of books such as the Bible–really truly believe without question, and the capacity to become clinically insane, is a very thin wall indeed. And for people like the woman who killed her children, these supernatural beliefs add fuel to the fire of her madness.

        January 19, 2014 at 8:23 pm |
        • lngtrmthnkr

          Dan, unfortunatly , there have allways been crazy people . Whether you believe in God or not you can be insane. I don't think insanity is that much affected by faith. If you have wiring misfiring it is a functioning problem. However I think people can be helped to function better by good cognative thearopy.

          January 20, 2014 at 10:17 am |
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          January 20, 2014 at 12:42 pm |
  8. Colinne

    There is a very good reason why atheists laugh at and make fun of religious people.

    January 19, 2014 at 6:23 pm |
    • Barry Christ

      The hats?

      January 19, 2014 at 6:38 pm |
      • Colinne

        Ok, there are two very good reasons.

        January 19, 2014 at 6:48 pm |
  9. Wowsah!

    That image looks like the Pope is going to get one heck of a hummer.

    January 19, 2014 at 5:05 pm |
    • Spectrophiliac

      Hmmm, maybe having an evil spirit inside you isn't such a bad thing.

      January 19, 2014 at 5:34 pm |
  10. Question

    Where do they put the evil spirits when they are done with them? Do they put them into a pig, and then kill the pig so you can tell your fortune by the entrails?

    January 19, 2014 at 2:59 pm |
    • Answer

      Mecca

      January 19, 2014 at 4:21 pm |
    • Spansh Pantalones

      They zap them with their proton packs then store them in a containment unit.

      January 19, 2014 at 5:08 pm |
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