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Ken Ham: Why I'm debating Bill Nye about creationism
Bill Nye and Ken Ham will debate the origins of life Tuesday at the Creation Museum.
February 3rd, 2014
01:15 PM ET

Ken Ham: Why I'm debating Bill Nye about creationism

Editors note: Ken Ham will debate Bill Nye on February 4 at the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky, with CNN's Tom Foreman moderating. The debate will be livestreamed at CNN.com at 7 pm ET, and Piers Morgan Live will interview Ham and Nye on Tuesday at 9 ET.

WATCH TUESDAY NIGHT'S DEBATE HERE: http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/cvplive/cvpstream1.html

Opinion by Ken Ham, special to CNN

(CNN) - Public debates on evolution and creation have become increasingly rare. Several hundred well-attended debates were held in the 1970s and 1980s, but they have largely dried up in recent decades.

So I look forward to a spirited yet cordial debate on Tuesday with Bill Nye, the "Science Guy" of television fame.

I also look forward to the opportunity to help counter the general censorship against creationists' view of origins. While we are not in favor of mandating that creation be taught in public school science classes, we believe that, at the very least, instructors should have the academic freedom to bring up the problems with evolution.

Even though the two of us are not Ph.D. scientists, Mr. Nye and I clearly love science.

As a former science instructor, I have appreciated the useful television programs that he hosted and produced, especially when he practiced operational science in front of his audience.

He and I both recognize the wonderful benefits that observational, operational science has brought us, from cell phones to space shuttles. But operational science, which builds today’s technology, is not the same as presenting beliefs about the past, which cannot be tested in the laboratory.

For students, the evolution-creation discussion can be a useful exercise, for it can help develop their critical thinking skills.

MORE ON CNN: Bill Nye: Why I'm Debating Ken Ham 

Most students are presented only with the evolutionary belief system in their schools, and they are censored from hearing challenges to it. Let our young people understand science correctly and hear both sides of the origins issue and then evaluate them.

Our public schools arbitrarily define science as explaining the world by natural processes alone. In essence, a religion of naturalism is being imposed on millions of students. They need to be taught the real nature of science, including its limitations.

Nye, the host of a popular TV program for children, should welcome a scrutiny of evolution in the classrooms.

As evolution-creation issues continue to be in the news - whether it relates to textbook controversies or our debate - there is an increasingly bright spotlight on the research activities of thousands of scientists and engineers worldwide who have earned doctorates and are creationists.

On our full-time staff at Answers in Genesis, we have Ph.D.s in astronomy, geology, biology, molecular genetics, the history of science, and medicine. Yes, creationists are still a small minority in the scientific community, but they hold impressive credentials and have made valuable contributions in science and engineering.

I remember the time I spoke at a lunchtime Bible study at the Goddard Space Flight Center near Washington. I was thrilled to meet several scientists and engineers who accept the book of Genesis as historical and reject Darwinian evolution. They shared with me that a belief in evolution had nothing to do with their work on the Hubble Space Telescope. Why should our perspective about origins be censored?

Our young people and adults should be aware that considerable dissent exists in the scientific world regarding the validity of molecules-to-man evolution.

It’s an important debate, for what you think about your origins will largely form your worldview. If you believe in a universe that was created by accident, then there is ultimately no meaning and purpose in life, and you can establish any belief system you want with no regard to an absolute authority.

Ultimately, I have decided to accept an authority our infallible creator and his word, the Bible over the words of fallible humans.

Ken Ham is founder and CEO of Answers in Genesis (USA) and founder of the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky. The views expressed in this column belong to Ham.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Belief • Bible • Creationism • Culture wars • Evolution • Opinion • Science

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  1. T

    By muddying intelligent design and creationism the evolutionists further their dogma. Just teach the controversy, the holes in evolution. Be open to a creator.

    February 5, 2014 at 2:07 am |
    • Fill

      I don't think you saw the debate. There's no dogma, agenda, or close-mindedness of science, at least from Nye's perspective (whom I tend to agree with). We have open arms to anything new and excitingly different that can be shown with evidence, like Creationism! Show it! Give evidence! Just not a book with little provenance, but something testable.

      February 5, 2014 at 2:37 am |
      • element24

        Exactly this. There's no close-mindedness from Nye's side – he openly invites Ham (and everyone) to find contradictory evidence to refute evolution and an "old Earth" and states (quite reasonably) that if someone were to provide strong evidence for creation and a young Earth, they'd be heralded as a legend and the scientific community would be turned on its head and completely rethink the origins of life. The simple fact remains however: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE for creation, a young Earth, or God. The Bible is not evidence. It is a book. A very old book compiled by man who is, as Ham points out, fallible. However, Ham and his proponents seem to use the Bible as the foundation upon which all their "science" is based, and that the Bible somehow holds veto power over any scientific theory that may come to light, which is, ultimately, flawed science (relying on an unchangeable yet completely and utterly unsubstantiated constant).

        February 5, 2014 at 3:20 am |
        • Fill

          Thanks Element24, if that is your real name. ;')

          February 5, 2014 at 4:18 am |
        • Shaun

          Element24 hit the nail on the head! Creationist psuedo-science can't back up its claims with tangible evidence! Also it foundation is based on religious teachings which has an effect of predisposition on their conclusions. This is the biggest reason why academics strive to keep it out of science class!

          February 5, 2014 at 5:17 am |
      • T

        The issue with that is that giving evidence to you is like making you see something blindfolded with your ears. When your creator speaks to you, or does things unseen you cannot see or question them.

        I believe in evolution, micro-evolution. So a dog can beciome a poodle or a labradoodle. But it can never become a cat.

        February 5, 2014 at 10:49 am |
    • Saraswati

      Teaching the the controversy in evolution is like teaching the controversy about whether the holocaust occurred. The fanatics in either case will never see how illogical their position is because that is the nature of delusion.

      February 5, 2014 at 7:41 am |
    • cedar rapids

      'By muddying intelligent design and creationism'

      whats to muddy? both claim a god did everything. They arent science based claims.

      February 5, 2014 at 9:11 am |
    • No Evidence

      To say you don't believe in evolution is like saying you don't believe in electricity.

      February 5, 2014 at 11:11 am |
  2. Fill

    Here's the debate in question, for those who didn't watch it live (obviously fast forward to the debate start):

    http://www.youtube.Com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI

    February 5, 2014 at 1:41 am |
  3. Jam One

    To Mr. Ham or any other creationism supporter, I will assume that your position includes the belief or support of the story of Noah. If so, can you please explain why there are Kangaroo's in Australia?

    Now, the Kangaroo is not, nor has it ever been native to the Middle East, so how did Noah get 2 of them? Before anyone replies, God brought them to Noah, please read Genesis 6:19, that verse suggests God did not bring any animals to Noah, Noah had to gather them. Actually, God did not lift a finger during this entire process according to the Genesis story, Noah and his family had to fell the tress to create the lumber to build the ark.

    Now before someone suggests that the story refers to local flooding and not flooding of the entire Earth, I would like to point out that the current support for the Noah story includes remnants of the ark being found on Mount Ararat in Turkey at an elevation of 4,000 meters. So one can conclude that the local flooding had to have been to a depth of more than 4,000 meters. So please explain how the Middle East and Turkey could have been flooded to that depth, without affecting the entire planet?

    Finally, another explanation is that all the continents were joined together as Pangaea during Noah's time so all the animals would have been accessible to Noah. If so this means that continents would have drifted thousands of miles apart during human existence and yet no one noticed.

    I am genuinely curious how supporters of the story of Noah, reconcile it with our common human experiences of today.

    February 5, 2014 at 1:36 am |
  4. Spaghetti Monster

    I see that you Creationist also believe that if you can't dazzle then with brilliance then baffle then with bull feces.

    February 5, 2014 at 1:29 am |
  5. w33dSmoka

    Everything is explained here: Ezekiel 23:20

    February 5, 2014 at 1:25 am |
  6. Kevin

    Religion is like magicians. People want real miracles the way they want real magic, but they'll settle for knowing they're being fooled.

    February 5, 2014 at 1:13 am |
    • @OD

      Magi were mathematicians in ancient Mesopotamia. This is where the word magic comes from, math was magic my friend and in a sense it still is.

      February 5, 2014 at 1:23 am |
    • Fill

      I was rather struck in college when I had to take a mandatory class on anthropology when they defined Religion as a set of ideas to explain the otherwise unexplainable to help give comfort, hope and unity to a people. I think in that sense, it can be a good thing. Where it gets weird is when people like Ham actively fight scientific thought and evidence because it infringes on ancient texts written by people who didn't know better. Just let it go! You don't have to let go everything about the Bible, but you're getting into nutty crazy town when you try that hard to prove something as silly as the Earth is just thousands of years old.

      February 5, 2014 at 1:25 am |
  7. @OD

    So, god created people and then left them with a set of instructions....if god was a parent I doubt he/ she would get the parent of the year award

    February 5, 2014 at 1:01 am |
    • Mike

      You are so wrong...God gave us a free will to do whith anything you want even murder someone but thats what God intended.

      February 5, 2014 at 1:26 am |
      • Jam One

        So by your logic, anyone who commits murder should never be held accountable because that is what God wanted? Every murder therefore was intended by God and since God is infallible, who are we humans to question or investigate any murder? I really do hope you meet others with your similar sense of logic, and with your very last seconds of consciousness, I wonder of then you would realize the utter stupidity of your position.

        February 5, 2014 at 1:45 am |
      • cedar rapids

        'God gave us a free will to do whith anything you want even murder someone but thats what God intended.'

        so why is it that god gives free-will for people to committ murder but doesnt give free-will to the victims not to be murdered? Why doesnt god save the victims during the attempt?

        February 5, 2014 at 9:06 am |
      • Jackson

        You'd think he'd have a problem with the number of people molesting children in his name....he's got one sick sense of humor, I guess.

        February 5, 2014 at 10:49 am |
      • Geo Bruno

        ummm which god do you mean

        There are many of them, not just a christian one

        February 5, 2014 at 12:08 pm |
  8. A Living Contradiction

    For those who think that evolution is compatible with the bible, think again. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was life, and that life was the light of men (John 1:1-4).

    Compared to:

    In the beginning were the particles and the impersonal laws of physics, and the particles somehow became complex living stuff, and the stuff imagined God.

    This is the philosophical side of evolution that is the debate. Where scientists cannot explain the "why", God through His word does. If the bible is correct, even our best thinkers have flawed reasoning, it's what the bible calls a "fool". The fall created the flaw, it created confusion and unbelief, much like mental illness. What seems logical, isn't, what is real, seems illogical, it's the basic doctrine of all Judeo-Christian beliefs.

    Without God revealing this through His Holy Spirit to us, evolution will be the only "logical" choice to those who deny Him.

    February 5, 2014 at 12:51 am |
    • Fill

      The contradiction is the circular logic, like what Ham used today, which is God exists because God told somebody to write a book which told me there is a God and to have Faith that God inspired somebody to write a book that told me that.... etc., etc.

      February 5, 2014 at 1:05 am |
    • @OD

      Dude, in the beginning there was " Logos" , Latin. Logos means logic, word is just one of the meanings of the word "logos". It's just one of many wrong translations like Moses having horns, because horns and ray ( of light) is the same word in Hebrew.

      February 5, 2014 at 1:13 am |
    • Milton Platt

      None says there were particles of any kind before the big bang. Noone knows and neither do you. First you need to provide evidence that your god exixts before you can introduce him into the cration of the universe. And whhile you are about that, please demonstrate why that would be the most plausible answer among a number of possibilities. Quotes from the bible or any other religious test has no value as evidence towaards anything.

      February 5, 2014 at 10:01 am |
  9. Alex

    Creationists are idiots, and disgrace for religions.

    February 5, 2014 at 12:47 am |
    • Still

      A misguided idea or two doesn't change that a great many of them are anti-human trafficking.

      February 5, 2014 at 4:24 am |
  10. Jay C

    God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. God did it. Religion is truly an intellectual dead-end, because you can't even entertain the notion that your wrong.

    February 5, 2014 at 12:41 am |
    • Terminatus

      Intellectual dead end??? Yeah okay buddy. Religion is only responsible for inspiring the most beautiful art, architecture, literature, philosophy, scientific pursuits (yep, it even inspired scientific endeavors), exploration, and law that the world has ever known. Science and Atheism scorn the beautiful in favor of intellectualism to a point of exercise, and yet they have never disproven the existence of a higher power. See, religion is not a dead end, but a jumping off point. Nice trolling though!

      February 5, 2014 at 12:54 am |
      • Delighted

        "Religion is responsible for inspiring the most 'beautiful'..."?

        I'm still choking on my communion wafer...."beautiful' is relative, knuckle head. Just as relative as your "truth" is.

        Thanks for confirming this with your example.

        February 5, 2014 at 3:21 am |
    • SLTsherey

      But how do you "know" this god did it? Well, duh, the Bible says so! This type of thinking *never* ceases to amaze me.

      February 5, 2014 at 1:14 am |
  11. Terminatus

    I believe in God, a higher power, a meaning and a purpose for our lives, and I believe that Jesus Christ is our savior. However, I fully understand that the Bible is full of anecdotes, parables, metaphors, lessons, dreams, and general craziness. I also understand that the Bible isn't even the full collection of texts attributed to writers during and after the life and times of Jesus. HAVING SAID THAT...why is it that today's Christian zealotry is so adamant about looking at the Bible in a literal sense? To pigeon hole God into a tiny book of stories is entirely anithetical to the majesty, and wonder of God. Why suggest that God created the earth in six days, or created man and woman in a garden with a snake. Why not contemplate the completely mindboggling possibility that God is smarter than you and maybe just maybe his "intelligent" design and structure of mathematics is the true miracle. I feel sorry for these Creationist Christians because they really are missing the boat on the true majesty of God, Darwinism included.

    February 5, 2014 at 12:33 am |
    • @OD

      If so then logic is in the heart of the design because logic is math. How using logic you come to a conclusion that Jesus is god is beyound me. May I remind you that after Jesus, came a 1000 years of pure misery until people started to revive the Greek and Roman cultures in 14th century.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:50 am |
      • Terminatus

        You bring up the single greatest mystery of religion versus logic, which is FAITH. I believe Jesus is our savior, because I choose to. It's a collection of experiences, beliefs, and feelings that guide me. I'm no intellectual midget I assure you, but you cannot explain FAITH in logical terms...it's beyond logic. It's like trying to explain LOVE in terms of chemical responses, rises in blood pressure, chocolate consumption, or data sets. Some things you just have to have faith in.

        February 5, 2014 at 1:02 am |
        • John_33

          Jesus said that if you believe Him, then you will listen to His words. If you find the Bible hard to believe, then you will find Jesus hard to believe since He is the Word of God. Faith is logical. If God really created us and instructed us how to live through His Word, then it is logical for us to place our trust in Him. Faith is simply believing that God will do what He said He will do. Feelings can come and go, and experiences can be faulty, but God's Word will last forever. The only way we can be sure of anything, including our own salvation, is to compare it with what the Bible says. That is also why the six-day Creation account in the Bible is so important.

          If we start to use carnal methods to interpret the Bible, then we run the risk of putting the world's ways over God's. That is an extremely dangerous path to take. The Word of God has never been popular to follow and has always faced ridicule. Remember what Peter said in John 6:68 when many disciples of Jesus refused to follow Him anymore. Finally, also remember that all scripture is given by inspiration of God. His Word is perfect and He did not make a single mistake anywhere in it. His Word really has and will continue to stand the test of time.

          February 6, 2014 at 10:24 pm |
  12. albie

    Christians are without a doubt, the single biggest threat to the future of this country. Their brainwashing of children should be considered child abuse.

    February 5, 2014 at 12:22 am |
    • Russ

      @albie: 73-80% of the US self-identifies as Christian. are you intending to make such a broad claim?

      February 5, 2014 at 12:39 am |
      • Geo Bruno

        Ask the ones who want to overturn the ACA which helps take care of the least of us.

        Then ask the billionaire ones who are not getting into the kingdom of heaven

        February 5, 2014 at 12:14 pm |
    • Terminatus

      Christians are a VAST group of people with varying degrees of intellect. Do not lump us all in the same boat as CREATIONISTS, thank you. The fact of the matter is (pun intended) that FAITH is impermeable to SCIENCE. Science, Atheism, etc. have yet to DISPROVE the existence of God, and furthermore, there are no eyewitnesses left living from the time of Jesus to say one way or the other if what the New Testament says is correct. However, something so powerful happened during the time of Christ that it LITERALLY formed a movement that exists to this day. Why is it that Atheists and their ilk are so opposed to a message of LOVE and FORGIVENESS? Are these concepts so foreign to the Atheist? Why be scared? This movement was so threatening to the Romans, it was so threatening to the Jews that they tried to squash it by any means necessary, and yet it breathes today. Fine, don't believe Jesus is the son of God, but admit that what Jesus accomplished was so extraordinary and revolutionary that the reverberations impact us even now.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:45 am |
    • Counterww

      Another anti Christian rant. Free speech and association give us awful Christians the right to raise our kids the way we think is right. You are a loon.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:46 am |
    • saysame

      The average Christian, like the average believer anywhere, is just lazy. They believe the majority religion of their birthplace, put little effort into it beyond lip service, and go about their lives. They want a framework but don't really want to think too hard about it.

      February 5, 2014 at 2:45 am |
  13. Fromoverhear

    Some isolated tribes might believe earth sits on the back of a tortoise, but that "theory" isn't taught in science classes either. Is that censorship? No. It's religion class. Ken, you can believe whatever you want. But don't tell us or our kids that it's science or demonstrable. (They call it faith, remember?) And by the way, I'm a Christian, and I see nothing about evolution that's incompatible with my faith.

    February 5, 2014 at 12:10 am |
  14. Michael

    Why is Bill Nye given so much credence? He is a mechanical engineer, his field is not evolutionary biology, cosmology, chemistry or ecology so why do people trust the man as if he is a learned scholar on these fields?

    February 5, 2014 at 12:01 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      Ken ham isn't exactly an expert in these areas either

      February 5, 2014 at 12:06 am |
    • Jay C

      Because he has common sense, which apparently you don't.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:08 am |
      • Sungrazer

        I actually agree. I don't think Nye is the best representative for the side of evolutionary biology. But better qualified people choose not to debate, for various reasons.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:13 am |
  15. Sue

    I'm always amazed at the number of posts an article on Christianity brings forth. If it is merely fairy tales then why the massive interest?

    February 4, 2014 at 11:55 pm |
    • @OD

      To many people base their lives on it, then they burn witches and go to war because of it...I say it deserves attention.

      February 4, 2014 at 11:59 pm |
      • Ramon

        Actually, most wars throughout history have been secular in nature. Charles Philips's and Alan Axelrod's three-volume Encyclopedia of Wars chronicles 1,763 conflicts and categorize just 123 as being religious in nature. Dismiss the 66 of those which were Islamic and you have a mere 57 wars started in the name of religion, or 3.23% of the 1,763 wars recorded throughout history.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:19 am |
        • Sungrazer

          He said people go to war over religion. He didn't say most wars were over religion. If those numbers are accurate, do you mean to say that the world couldn't have done without 123 less wars? And why do you dismiss the Islamic wars?

          February 5, 2014 at 12:25 am |
        • albie

          Another way to put it: 60 wars have been started in name of religion, that is 60 wars too many. Even if a war wasn't started because of religion, we all know its a major cause of friction and/or hate. It probably has been the kindling for many many more wars than 60.

          February 5, 2014 at 12:27 am |
        • saysame

          Did Jesus teach you to lie like that?

          February 5, 2014 at 2:47 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      Because whilst god may be a fairy tale, the followers of various deities most certainly do exist.
      That's why

      February 5, 2014 at 12:04 am |
    • Sungrazer

      And they try to legislate their beliefs into law. They take their beliefs to the public square. The use their beliefs as cover for discrimination. They try to introduce their fairy tales into science classrooms. That is why.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:06 am |
      • Counterww

        News flash. They are allowed to bring their religious views into the public square. It's called free speech.

        February 5, 2014 at 1:05 am |
        • TrueBlue42

          Better "news flash": They are not allowed to present their beliefs as "facts", particularly not in our classrooms and courts. It's called "Freedom of, and from, religion".

          February 5, 2014 at 5:38 am |
  16. Shaun

    The problem i have with creationists trying to get their point of view debated with evolution in the science class is that there is no supporting evidence to that view. Science is about finding truth no matter what that truth might be. Creationist psuedo-science is about having a predisposition to religious teachings beforehand. Its theories are not created using the scientific method and therefore will not stand up to scrutiny from peers. Keep religion in church and science in the science class! The two don't mix!

    February 4, 2014 at 11:54 pm |
    • @OD

      I agree, if you can't poke it with a stick ( even if it's just a stick of logic), don't base your life on it.

      February 4, 2014 at 11:57 pm |
      • Ian

        Good luck getting atheists to embrace that idea.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:03 am |
    • Ian

      Unfortunately for your religious beliefs there is plenty of evidence that we were created, and it's because of your religious beliefs you will not admit that there is plenty of evidence which points directly at the need for a creator. If you want to keep religion out of the classroom you will have to remove the teaching of evolution, since it absolutely depends on naturalism and materialism.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:11 am |
      • @OD

        Where is the evidence? May I remind you that a lack of knowledge is by no means is an evidence, so, give me just one.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:17 am |
      • Sungrazer

        "it absolutely depends on naturalism and materialism"

        That's precisely WHY it belongs in the science classroom. What an odd thing to say.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:30 am |
      • Shaun

        Where is this evidence you speak of? Evidence that is not valid are "because the bible says so" or " because its too complex". Those are opinons that can be disputed. Evidence deals in facts that cant be disputed. Cite evidence of us being created because this would imply evidence of a creator which i know for a "fact" that there is none. So.....cite this evidence....

        February 5, 2014 at 3:44 am |
    • Kerry

      Whether one believes in God or not, I believe it is a huge mistake to go to the Bible looking for science, no more than I would go to my book on mass transfer to learn about faith. If one believes in God and the early prophets, one has to realize that the people back then were on a much lower plane of understanding about science then – no matter how you define it. So, God had to speak to them at their level of understanding. When my 3-yr old daughter asks why the sky is blue – I don't talk about refraction off of particles, and that blue was the wave length that is most scattered, etc. If I did, I would loose her. She'll have moved on. Why wouldn't God do any different. The Bible is full of allegories, meant to convey a message, and not meant to be taken literally.

      In my mind, creationists do a great dis-service to the discussion about whether God or a god organized the universe's creation. They are the same as the church in the middle ages trying to insist that the earth was the center of everything when Galileo found evidence otherwise. I and my faith are not threatened by evolution. Nor are my children. What's the problem if God created the earth through an evolutionary process? If He's God, He can do it however he wants.

      Creationism is a joke. It imposes a blind viewpoint on people of faith. A blind viewpoint that does not look at the facts. If we want to learn faith, lets go to our Bibles (and Korans, Buddhavacanas, or whatever text applies to our faith). But if we want to learn science, then lets go to our books and journals that deal with science.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:28 am |
  17. @OD

    Look at what humans are doing already, we are creating things that did not existed before. We are creators, creativity is just another step in the evolution it seems. And who is to say that we are actually at the top of the chain? There is no contradiction, stop arguing:) One thing is for sure, god is pure speculation, even the word " believe" means not really knowing, right?

    February 4, 2014 at 11:50 pm |
  18. Terry B

    There is no theory to evolution. It is the simple truth found via all the skeletons that we have found through the ages. Some idiots don't believe that the dinosaurs didn't exist in spite of the massive information provided to us via the skeletons of the creatures. Is there no dark side of the moon? we have never seen it but we all know that it exists. If religious people believe in intelligent design than actual evolution was part of God's design. Religion should never dull a persons intellect to allow them to not see the reality of evolution. Creation dreams are just that, dreams. Creating something to explain our existence.

    February 4, 2014 at 11:45 pm |
  19. @OD

    We are creators, are we not? And if so, why can't there be others? Smarter, more powerful, you know how evolution works, don't you? Lol, just saying.

    February 4, 2014 at 11:42 pm |
  20. Andy

    To even placate these creationist idiots is lunacy in itself. Choosing to ignore undeniable provable facts to believe a myth is nothing but plain and absolute authentic stupidity. Yes I said it, if you believe in creationism than you have limited intelligence.

    February 4, 2014 at 11:33 pm |
    • @OD

      How did the universe came to be, yes one or all of them?...if you can't answer this, you can't really dismiss creation...this is pure logic talking.

      February 4, 2014 at 11:37 pm |
      • Cedar Rapids

        Nothing logical about suggesting that if you can't explain it then magic could have been involved if you happen to have no examples of magic existing In the first place.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:08 am |
        • @OD

          I didn't say that it is an evidence for the existence of god, all I said is that we cannot dismiss the possibility.

          February 5, 2014 at 12:20 am |
        • Cedar Rapids

          But you claimed that logic says we can't. I am saying that if we have no evidence of magic then it isn't logical to claim a possibility of magic being the cause.

          February 5, 2014 at 12:22 am |
      • saysame

        If you had ever taken the time to read the bible you'd have noticed that it doesn't explain why there is something rather than nothing either. It's not a god's diary.

        February 5, 2014 at 2:56 am |
    • Ellie

      I feel sorry for you. You are missing the truth and have been so deceived. God's Word, the Bible, IS Truth, the Truth. How can you believe the evolution garbage? Try reading the Bible with an open mind. Your eternal destiny hinges on it.

      February 5, 2014 at 12:01 am |
      • Sungrazer

        I feel sorry for you. You are missing the truth and have been so deceived. Evolution IS Truth, the Truth. How can you believe the bible garbage? Try reading about evolution with an open mind. Your scientific credibility hinges on it.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:09 am |
      • Sungrazer

        I feel sorry for you. You are missing the truth and have been so deceived. Evolution IS Truth, the Truth. How can you believe the biblical garbage? Try reading about evolution with an open mind.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:11 am |
      • @OD

        You know how you tell somebody something and then you hear the story again in a year and its completely changed? Well the bible was retold for hundreds of years before it was even written down. And what you are actually base your life upon is what some monk thought he new to be right 1700 years ago.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:14 am |
      • albie

        People like you scare me.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:30 am |
      • Dave

        If we were to start all over again, zero knowledge of "science" and "the bible". The story in "the bible" would be different. As it is a story, passed on to many different people, re told and finally put to paper and edited and changed over the years. The science would be the same.

        February 5, 2014 at 12:44 am |
      • Andy

        The bible is a book of fairy tales, just as all other "gods" in other parts of the world and other times in history were myths. People in other times believed every bit as much in their multiple gods as you do in yours. Ther is NO one true way, and you are arrogant to think you have the simplistic key to it all. You "believe" because you are afraid not to. ,y destiny does not hinge on your inability to think critically and try to scare others into your beliefs because in your limited thought process if others believe what I believe then I must be right.

        February 5, 2014 at 1:10 am |
      • saysame

        You are just another lazy person who believes the majority religion of your birthplace. LIke the majority of people everywhere. You can't handle uncertainty and just cling to the local McDonald's franchise / religion.

        February 5, 2014 at 2:42 am |
      • Andy

        Pics would wager that Ellie lives in the south.

        February 5, 2014 at 2:09 pm |
    • rapp

      "Yes I said it, if you believe in creationism than you have limited intelligence." LOL... Who are you and why should anyone care what you say?

      February 5, 2014 at 12:36 am |
    • saysame

      It's fun to mock them and that's really all that's required. Creationism isn't going away but it's also failing to achieve it's goal decade after decade. And I think the internet has really helped to make them look bad.

      February 5, 2014 at 2:50 am |
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