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February 8th, 2014
12:48 PM ET

Praise the Lord and pass the beer, change is brewing among American Christians

By Brett McCracken, special to CNN

(CNN) - Something is brewing among American Protestants, and it has a decidedly hoppy flavor.

For much of the last century in the United States, Protestant Christianity’s relationship with beer was cold or even hostile at times. Protestant organizations such as the Woman’s Christian Temperance Union and the Anti-Saloon League led the campaign to make alcohol illegal.

Even after Prohibition ended, many evangelicals defined themselves by their abstention from alcohol, called “the beloved enemy” by televangelist Jack Van Impe.

Drinking was, and in many cases still is, outlawed on Christian college campuses and among leadership of many churches and denominations.

But in recent years, change has been fermenting. Taverns and beer halls, once dismissed as the domain of the “worldly” in need of reform, are today the meeting places for churches

Consider the following:

● “Bar Church,” a self-described “nontraditional church,” which meets at Memories Bar in Abilene, Texas, and is an offshoot of Southern Hills Church of Christ.

● North Brooklyn Vineyard, which meets at Trash Bar in Williamsburg, New York.

● Fort Worth’s “Kyrie,” which advertises itself as “Church in a Pub” and meets at Zio Carlo bar on Sunday nights.

Other churches are starting beer-friendly Bible studies or ministries, such as:

● “Beer and Bonhoeffer,” at Southlands Church in Brea, California, which meets to discuss German theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s “The Cost of Discipleship,” while parishioners share their favorite craft brews. “I feel that real and honest discussions between men happen when we have a nice IPA or stout in our hands,” said group founder Pastor Kevin Meisch.

● “Beer & Hymns,” a gathering at First Christian Church in Portland, Oregon, where 100 or so mostly young people sing hymns like “Be Thou My Vision” while guzzling home-brewed beer from plastic cups. Similar “beer and hymns” events have occurred at churches in St. Paul, Minnesota, and Cincinnati.

● “Beer, Bible and Brotherhood,” an Oxford, Connecticut, group launched by the Rev. John Donnelly of Christ Church Quaker Farms, which studies Rick Warren’s "40 Days in the Word," while quaffing Sam Adams brews.

● “What Would Jesus Brew?” Valley Church in Allendale, Michigan, sponsors gatherings for craft beer enthusiasts, designed to “reach out to people in a loving, grace-filled way that meets people where they are and as they are.”

And all this is on top of the dozens of Catholic “theology on tap” events taking place at taverns across the country.

In the Protestant world, the trend toward tolerance of alcohol reaches beyond churches into conservative college campuses as well.

Last August, Chicago’s Moody Bible Institute — which just last year lifted a ban on long hair for men and nose stud earrings for women — dropped its ban on alcohol and tobacco consumption for its faculty and staff.

In September, Southern California’s Biola University — founded as the Bible Institute of Los Angeles in 1908 — lifted its ban on alcohol and tobacco for of-age graduate students, noting that the changes “shift the responsibility of conduct from the institution to the individual.”

Even though they are still banned from consuming beer while students, many recent graduates of evangelical colleges are starting to make an impact in the craft beer industry.

Several recent graduates of Indiana’s Taylor University launched the website ThePerfectlyHappyMan.com, which offers craft beer reviews and tips for beer tasting and making.

Tom Smillie, Christian beer maker and writer for The Perfectly Happy Man, says his love of good beer has allowed him to build relationships with nonbelievers.

“Sometimes I’ll go alone to a bar and have a great conversation with a person about sports, politics and most often religion,” said Smillie. “Beer is communal and appeals to the common man. Interestingly the gospel message is, too.”

The communal value of beer also appeals to Scott Sullivan, an alumnus of evangelical Calvin College who owns the Greenbush Brewing Company in Sawyer, Michigan.

“We are the community gathering place,” notes Sullivan, whose pastors are regulars in his taproom.

“Conversations and debates go on all day and people trade ideas. … I’ll often have a pastor sitting next to an atheist talking about all sorts of things, which isn’t something that can happen in a conventional church setting. How can you beat that?”

Christian craft beer aficionados like Smillie and Sullivan are also quick to point out that beer history is closely tied to Christian history.

St. Patrick reportedly used beer as a way to lure in Irish heathens before he converted them to Christianity. In the Holy Roman Empire, beer lover Charlemagne promoted improvements in brewing at monasteries throughout the empire, gradually making the church the primary wholesaler of beer in society.

Some brews today — such as Weihenstephan (founded 1040 AD) and Leffe (1240 AD) — originated in medieval monasteries. Famous nun Hildegard von Bingen was a brewer and is sometimes credited with the discovery that hops add preservative qualities to ale.

Despite their sometimes dour reputation, America’s Puritan founders were also big beer fans.

The Mayflower and other ships to the Massachusetts Bay Colony were stocked with ample wine and beer. In 1620, the ship carrying John Winthrop to the Massachusetts Bay Colony contained three times as much beer as water. In 1630, the Arabella brought Puritans to New England with at least 10,000 gallons of beer in tow.

Beer — then safer to drink than water — was such a necessary staple for the Pilgrims that a brewery was the first permanent building constructed in Plymouth.

Among colonial Christians, “no one felt any tension between Christianity and the moderate use of alcohol,” notes historian Mark Noll. Rather, most believers in America before 1800 “regarded the moderate use of alcoholic beverages, particularly beer and wine, as a privileged blessing from a gracious God.”

Perhaps today’s “beer Christianity” is not so much a new trend as it is a return to the posture toward alcohol that characterized much of Christian history?

Certainly vestiges of the temperance and Prohibition movements of 19th and 20th century American Christianity remain.

Many conservative denominations — Southern Baptists, for example — still discourage members, and particularly leaders, from consuming any alcohol.

In 2011, well-known pastor John MacArthur minced no words in chastising the “Young, Restless, Reformed” movement of young Calvinists for their fondness of beer.

“Cultivating an appetite for beer,” wrote MacArthur, “is not merely bad missional strategy and a bad testimony; it is fraught with deadly spiritual dangers.”

The dangers are real, to be sure. No one disputes the fact that drinking has its fair share of downsides, spiritually, physically, emotionally or otherwise. But so do a lot of things.

As I argue in my new book “Gray Matters: Navigating the Space Between Legalism & Liberty,” there are many perfectly good things in the world that can go wrong when we consume them recklessly.

The answer for Christians is not to demonize the good gifts of culture and wholly avoid them; nor is it to consume indiscriminately or immoderately.

As Martin Luther once said, “Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?”

Luther viewed beer as a gift from God — something with the potential to be misused, but also something that could be used to honor the creator.

That’s how I hope Christians today see it as well — not as a lightning rod of the culture wars, to be avoided or embraced as some sort of statement, but as a pleasurable gift of a good God, who made water, yeast, barley and hops, and human beings with the creative capacity to brew up something wonderful.

Brett McCracken is the author of "Gray Matters: Navigating the Space Between Legalism & Liberty" and "Hipster Christianity: When Church and Cool Collide."

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Church • evangelicals • Protestant • Sacred Spaces • Spirituality

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  1. bootyfunk

    "Beer — then safer to drink than water — was such a necessary staple for the Pilgrims that a brewery was the first permanent building constructed in Plymouth."

    lol. they built it so they could get drunk.
    boiling water cleans it, a MUCH simpler process than brewing beer (which also involves boiling).
    if they were simply concerned about the health issue, they would have just boiled water
    they wanted to get drunk

    February 10, 2014 at 2:55 pm |
    • notagoper

      No, it's not that simple. The water went bad in the kegs stored in the bilge-filled hold.

      Beer in kegs stayed better longer because the alcohol content killed the bacteria that formed after the kegs were filled. This was true for all sea voyages of the time.

      February 10, 2014 at 3:01 pm |
      • bootyfunk

        sure, i get it. while at sea, safer to drink alcohol with no access to fresh water or fuel to burn. make alcohol before you leave and take it with you while you cross the ocean.
        but that's not what the quote said. it said after they landed they build a brewery - so they were no longer at sea.
        they had access to fresh water - which they could have just boiled to make safe.
        brewing takes a lot of time and effort.
        if safety was a concern, they could have boiled water.
        they wanted to get drunk.

        February 10, 2014 at 3:24 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          I'm not sure they knew/realized that the act of boiling water is what made it safe to drink

          February 10, 2014 at 3:38 pm |
        • igaftr

          Germ Theory ( gosh, another scientific theory...but I'm sure there's no real data on it so let's not believe it) first really came around at the end of the 19th century. They had no idea that germs caused problems ( the churches still were teaching they were evil spirits). Water was often not safe to drink...you often had sewage running into water supplies.
          They had no concept that boiling would do anything...they DID know alcohol was safer.
          It is still common in Europe and other areas to drink alcoholic beverages, even as children.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:50 pm |
    • bostontola

      I don't think they knew that the boiling step was the one that made it safe to drink. Man went for thousands of years brewing safe beverages without knowing why. Louis Pasteur fixed that.

      February 10, 2014 at 3:08 pm |
      • bootyfunk

        i don't think that is so.
        though they didn't really understand germs or disease, people knew before pasteur that boiling water cleaned it, though they didn't know why. they knew because they made tea, which required boiling water and adding a few herbs, and tea didn't make people sick. they also boiled water to pour on wounds and to use during child birth before the pilgrims came over.
        water is boiled in the brewing process. they could have just made tea instead of beer - but that wouldn't have gotten them a buzz.

        February 10, 2014 at 3:32 pm |
        • bostontola

          You may be right, I don't know when Europeans knew that boiling water made it safe, do you?

          February 10, 2014 at 3:43 pm |
        • igaftr

          Starting at the end of the 19th Century, but relaly didn't catch on until a bit later, so even during the civil war, they did not know that filtering and boiling can make water safe.

          So only a little over a hundred years.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:52 pm |
        • igaftr

          I did locate this, which shows methods for water purification as far back as 2000bc....boiling, filtering etc.
          http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/resource-history-of-clean-drinking-water.htm

          They didn't know about germs, so storing water was an issue, since stagnant water grow germs, insects etc.
          Alcoholic beverages could last much longer, since the alcohol levels would kill insect eggs and larvae as well as germs. On ships, there was little storage room, and water/drink is heavy, so Rum, meads, brews would keep better than water, and last for months, where water supplies would contaminate during the same time.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:16 pm |
        • bostontola

          igaftr,
          Man learned and lost information many times over.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:33 pm |
        • The Running Twit

          Someone probably tasted at different temps

          February 10, 2014 at 4:37 pm |
    • Vic

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_beer

      February 10, 2014 at 3:37 pm |
  2. vic1248

    Praise The Lord

    Cheers

    February 10, 2014 at 2:47 pm |
    • bootyfunk

      but i have no lord

      February 10, 2014 at 2:49 pm |
      • krussell25

        Then just "Cheers"!

        February 10, 2014 at 2:54 pm |
        • bootyfunk

          cheers indeed!

          February 10, 2014 at 2:55 pm |
    • truthprevails1

      CNN's web-master's are the lord? At least they can be shown to exist :-).

      February 10, 2014 at 2:50 pm |
    • snufflopagus

      Lord Shiva?

      February 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Give me one good reason to praise a god.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:52 pm |
      • krussell25

        Religion can bring a community together.
        Churches can provide help for the needy, and give support to those who have disaster strike their lives.
        Of course, which 'god' you pick is irrelevant, but a strong local church can be a good thing.

        February 10, 2014 at 2:57 pm |
        • bootyfunk

          imo, it generally does as much harm as good. it separates as much as it brings together.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:00 pm |
        • realbuckyball

          But the Shriners wear white shoes, and have freaky loud more entertaining wardrobes. Shriners rock.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:13 pm |
        • petethepeter

          That is not always true, it has been the churches that are discriminatory towards several minority groups both in the past and present.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:18 pm |
        • krussell25

          Please note; I said "can", not "100% guaranteed to be".
          In my experiences, it usually does much more good than harm.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:24 pm |
        • petethepeter

          You don't need have a religious affiliation to do good things in your communities and religion doesn't always imply being good for our communities. Now before you reply notice I am saying religion and we aren't just talking about America. Think about it.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:28 pm |
        • igaftr

          "Religion can bring a community together"

          Or give justification for war, murder, genocide, bigotry and racism.
          You are right, though...religion brought down the twin towers, and as a result, brought many together to stand against religion ( at least that one).

          February 10, 2014 at 3:40 pm |
        • krussell25

          @igaftr
          That would be at a global level.
          I though it was clear that I was limiting myself to a local community.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:49 pm |
        • igaftr

          krussel
          Globally? Not even close...these global escalations of this religion against that one have been going on since men first created gods and religions. everything from one person against another on up to full armies.

          The ONLY time that religion brings people together in the manner you say, is when ALL are of one belief, and can preach to the choir. ALL religions are a source of conflict when beliefs do not match.
          Just the hatred I see when I tell someone I am an atheist, reflects that.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:57 pm |
      • Doc Vestibule

        It depends on the god, I guess.
        The parties praising Bacchus got so debauched that the Roman Senate outlawed His festivals in 186BCE.

        February 10, 2014 at 3:03 pm |
        • igaftr

          Ahhh...the good ol' days.. I almost remember those festivals well.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:33 pm |
        • Doc Vestibule

          Christ said to turn the other cheek, Bacchus said to spread them.

          February 10, 2014 at 3:39 pm |
    • Vic

      We can all have common grounds, civility and mutual respect. I call it "Intercare."

      Cheers.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:57 pm |
      • bostontola

        Cheers!

        February 10, 2014 at 3:11 pm |
  3. bootyfunk

    christians but don't like to admit they're taking drugs
    alcohol is a drug
    you drink to get high, which for alcohol is called getting drunk
    jesus made water out of wine
    jesus gave drugs to his followers
    it's okay, you can say it

    February 10, 2014 at 2:34 pm |
    • bootyfunk

      *jesus made wine out of water

      February 10, 2014 at 2:35 pm |
  4. bostontola

    Drinking beer is no longer a sin?!? Heck yeah!

    Mayor Rob Ford

    February 10, 2014 at 2:34 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      I love how his excuse for smoking crack is that he was drunk.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:41 pm |
  5. Doris

    Pheeew! Now I need a real beer after all that WP set-up; lol. I'll try to relax and think of some of the other verses that they had in the that book of Fermentations that used to come after Lamentations before they took it out of the OT.

    February 10, 2014 at 2:33 pm |
  6. 9596tony

    “Beer & Hymns,” a gathering at First Christian Church in Portland, Oregon, where 100 or so mostly young people sing hymns like “Be Thou My Vision” while guzzling home-brewed beer from plastic cups. Similar “beer and hymns” events have occurred at churches in St. Paul, Minnesota, and Cincinnati."

    February 10, 2014 at 2:30 pm |
    • notagoper

      Portlanders call Portland Beervana.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:36 pm |
  7. krussell25

    Now, back to business:
    I have no problem with religion becoming less medieval and getting over every little thing as being a 'sin'.
    Like they don't all have beer at home anyway.
    I'm still not converting, but it's good to see progress.

    February 10, 2014 at 2:29 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Not progress. Just recruiting.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:31 pm |
  8. insantawetrust

    I just had to get a WP account to reply. Just testing it out.

    February 10, 2014 at 2:02 pm |
    • krussell25

      It's about time they did something!

      February 10, 2014 at 2:04 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Finally.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:12 pm |
      • dhethndhoom

        What exactly will this do?

        February 10, 2014 at 2:13 pm |
        • notagoper

          Stop the handle stealing. Provide a better mechanism to lock out people who produce nothing but ad hominems.

          February 10, 2014 at 2:15 pm |
      • Apple Bush

        R.I.P.

        Angry Inch
        Fake Heaven Sent
        Alien Orifice
        Meatwad
        The Central Scrutinizer
        Father O'blivion
        Box
        Skwisgaar Skwigelf

        February 10, 2014 at 2:16 pm |
        • Apple Bush

          R.I.P.

          Dr. Donnel Johnson and Where is your God now?

          February 10, 2014 at 2:17 pm |
    • notagoper

      Yes, it really was time to do something about the rampant handle stealing and blatent trolling.

      Formerly: I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:14 pm |
    • truthprevails1

      Nice to see it fixed and that the report abuse 'link' no longer exists.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:19 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Perhaps now the troll of a million monikers will keep it down to just two or three.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:43 pm |
  9. Dyslexic doG

    let's pray that the posts will stop being deleted. Prayer always works, right?

    February 10, 2014 at 1:38 pm |
    • krussell25

      Either pray or send email to the moderators, or cause trouble to get their attention.

      February 10, 2014 at 2:02 pm |
    • bostontola

      Your prayer was answered, no more report abuse link. All hail the FSM!

      February 10, 2014 at 2:30 pm |
  10. Doris

    From posts that were deleted – but I will type these in because I screen-captured them instead of copying the text. But earlier Madtown, Rainer and Doc were going over some German beers. I'm going to see if I can find any of these locally – I think I know where a German grocery store is not too far from here.

    Erdinger alkoholfrei (non-alcoholic)
    Warsteiner alkoholfrei (I'm guessing that's also non-alcoholic)
    Dinkerlacker
    Paulaner Hefeweizen

    February 10, 2014 at 1:38 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Warsteiner and Paulaner are readily avaialable in the US.

      February 10, 2014 at 1:40 pm |
      • Doris

        Thanks, not(GOPer), I'm going to check them out.

        February 10, 2014 at 2:28 pm |
      • notagoper

        I'd go with Paulaner and Spaten before anything from Warsteiner. Nothing wrong with Warsteiner. You can get the mini-mini (~2 gallon?) kegs of Warsteiner in the US.

        Paulaner's Hefewisen is a standard. Some US Hefewisen craft beers come close like Widmer. Spaten Optimator (a double bock) is readily available. It is excellent and great you need to go to sleep.

        The Paulaner and Spaten Okoberfests are available seasonally.

        February 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          Spaten Optimator – One of my favorites Optimater ist die Bombe

          February 10, 2014 at 3:48 pm |
    • bostontola

      If you like Hefeweizen (wheat beer), Spaten makes a good one also (and a lot of other good beers).

      February 10, 2014 at 1:47 pm |
      • Doris

        Thanks, boston.

        February 10, 2014 at 2:29 pm |
  11. OTOH

    OTOH
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    All of Mr. Mold's posts and the replies removed?

    Aw, and he was such a fungi!

    And we were getting SO close to unmasking the blog terrorist too...
    February 10, 2014 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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    Dr. Mold

    See. Told you it's atheists.
    February 10, 2014 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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    Alias

    Most of my posts get removed as well, and I am pure atheist.
    I saw someone post that the way to deal with thi s was to start reporting everything and remove all posts. I think they were joking. However, I have reconsidered.
    If we really want CNN to make the censorship stop, we should start reporting all posts as abuse. That would actually get some attention and maybe even get CNN to change the policies..

    Who's with me!?!?!?
    February 10, 2014 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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    Dr. Mold

    I have read some of your posts. I would delete all your posts in a heartbeat. You're another atheist troll.
    February 10, 2014 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |

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    Angry Inch

    Most of my focking posts get removed too and I don't know why gaddamnit.
    February 10, 2014 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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    Dr. Mold

    Because you're an angry troll that takes your anger out on others?
    February 10, 2014 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |

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    Alias

    Someone with a name of 'Christina Warrior' ( or something like that) claimed to be reporting anything he didn't agree with.
    It would explain a lot.
    February 10, 2014 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |

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    Dr. Mold

    Most atheists here are trolls that often repeat themselves daily so, I too, would report atheists. What atheists are doing here is evil.
    February 10, 2014 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |

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    In Santa we trust

    Moldy, So you'd infringe on const itutional rights just because you disagree with our position and cannot defend yours?
    February 10, 2014 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |

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    Alias

    Only if we're wrong.
    Otherwise, you are just an insecure idiot.
    February 10, 2014 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |

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    truthprevails1

    So your posts get deleted and you whine but yet you think it's okay when Atheists posts get deleted? How very typical of a christian...always wanting to stop the truth from being known; always wanting to deny freedom of speech to those who disagree with them.
    February 10, 2014 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse | Reply

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    igaftr

    If no one else has noticed. dr mold seems to be the same troll who tries to bash atheists all of the time on this blog...different day, different name, but you can tell in the way things are written.

    Just another one to ignore, since it won't actually contribute to any conversation, except to blame atheists for something ( bearing false witness in the process), or to have some other negative comment about atheists.
    February 10, 2014 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse | Reply

    February 10, 2014 at 1:13 pm |
    • Alias

      Can one person sign in different ways to remove posts, or are we dealing with an organized group of bible thumpers with their own twisted agenda?

      February 10, 2014 at 1:21 pm |
      • niknak

        We have been dealing with a group of fanatic babble thumpers for some time now.
        Are they responsible for the deleted posts? Not sure.
        But they sure are responsible for the science gap we are facing with the rest of the western world.

        February 10, 2014 at 1:27 pm |
        • Lawrence of Arabia

          I only report abuse on posts that contain filthy language or lewd remarks. There's children that read these posts, and people need to be mindful of that.

          February 10, 2014 at 1:33 pm |
        • The Running Twit

          every christian child is barred from CNN, they only have access to Fox news. So....

          February 10, 2014 at 1:36 pm |
      • OTOH

        From what we can gather, it seems as if it's one person who has numerous accounts/computers/? and who sort of hacks into the site. I have no idea how many reports it takes for deletion. The Editors certainly do though, and if they don't know the techs who can fix it, well... **sigh**. At one time "Report Abuse" was a dead link until someone at CNN or WordPress activated it. It could be disabled or modified again.

        February 10, 2014 at 1:30 pm |
        • Alias

          I reported evey post on the first 6 pages to see if anything would happen.
          Yes, you can even report yourself.
          No, I didn't report replies, just the first post.
          I shouldn't be surprised, but apparently you can report abuse on as many posts as you want to.

          February 10, 2014 at 1:34 pm |
  12. Alias

    How many times does a post have to be reported before it is removed?

    February 10, 2014 at 1:07 pm |
    • igaftr

      How many roads must a man walk down, before you can call him a man?

      February 10, 2014 at 3:28 pm |
  13. Lawrence of Arabia

    Paul said that all things were lawful to him, but not all things are advantageous, so he would lay them aside if they could cause someone else to sin.

    The Bible makes it clear that alcohol in and of itself is not sinful, but intoxication most certainly is. In this instance, Christians are severely abusing their liberty. Look to the examples of the Apostles and how they conducted the meeting of the saints on the Lord's Day – this is sacred... It is to be treated as such.

    February 10, 2014 at 1:04 pm |
    • niknak

      What does the babble say about MaryJane?
      Oh yeah, nothing, since the goat herders had no idea it existed when they put their fables into your fairy tale book.

      February 10, 2014 at 1:22 pm |
      • Lawrence of Arabia

        But the Bible has MUCH to say about the sins of intoxication... The method of intoxication is irrelevant.

        February 10, 2014 at 1:31 pm |
  14. Topher

    CNN removes my posts also. I wonder if it's because they typically make no sense?

    February 10, 2014 at 12:58 pm |
    • niknak

      For once you are actually right!

      February 10, 2014 at 1:23 pm |
    • fred

      Do you have any evidence or proof that those posts existed in the first place?

      February 10, 2014 at 1:28 pm |
  15. Angry Inch

    Cup Noodle to you.

    February 10, 2014 at 12:50 pm |
  16. Honey Badger Don't Care

    Beer is an integral part of the Pastafarian faith.

    Can I get a R'amen?

    February 10, 2014 at 12:46 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Pastafarianism will one day face a great schism between the rival beer versus Chianti sects.

      The beer fundamentalists will consider Chianti drinkers heretical. Wheras the Chianti drinkers will consider themselves the true worshippers of the FSM.

      February 10, 2014 at 12:52 pm |
      • Angry Inch

        In time, magical tablets will be discovered in a new world touting whiskey...

        February 10, 2014 at 12:56 pm |
        • igaftr

          Too late...Mormons already ran that scam.

          February 10, 2014 at 12:57 pm |
        • The Running Twit

          can't wait!

          February 10, 2014 at 1:04 pm |
        • Happy Atheist

          Ah yes! The golden plates that make any pasta dish shine like a thousand suns and taste of holy cream sauce ambrosia! Or so said the guy who found them, ate off them, and then lost them in a forest, but he told us all about it in his new book! Only $29.95! He called it the book of Morepasta and featured the holy Macaroni...

          February 10, 2014 at 1:36 pm |
        • The Running Twit

          sounds delicious! aaaaarrrgghhh!!!!

          February 10, 2014 at 1:39 pm |
    • igaftr

      Red wine with pasta.
      beer good with veal parm.

      February 10, 2014 at 12:56 pm |
      • The Running Twit

        beer and pork at a muslim party.

        Death wish X, with Charles Bronson's clone

        February 10, 2014 at 1:05 pm |
        • niknak

          Don't give them any more ideas.
          They have run out as they are stooping to remaking Robocop.

          February 10, 2014 at 1:25 pm |
        • The Running Twit

          Robocop 2 will be centered around beer drinking churches.

          He will shoot them down before any accident happens.

          February 10, 2014 at 1:28 pm |
  17. Angry Inch

    If I may, BEER "SCHMEER". Legalize pot and take it to church. Then I will be impressed with these matters.

    February 10, 2014 at 12:45 pm |
    • Angry Inch

      The more I consider it, high people at church would be just about the best thing ever.

      February 10, 2014 at 12:49 pm |
    • igaftr

      The Rastafarians have been able to smoke weed for a long time in the USA. You must be from Jamaica and be a Rastafarian, and only for certain ceremonies.

      February 10, 2014 at 1:02 pm |
  18. Honey Badger Don't Care

    I think that it is so funny that these xtians use this medieval torture device as their symbol. Do you really think that if Jebus came back that he would appreciate that?

    So dumb.

    February 10, 2014 at 12:43 pm |
    • Angry Inch

      Also proof that Jesus/God does not exist. If there were a god, it would have intervened with that and busted out with His graphic art skills.

      February 10, 2014 at 12:47 pm |
  19. Rynomite

    Ahh the ever changing interpretation of religious dogma!

    Flat Earth –> becomes Round!
    Everything revolves around the earth –> becomes the earth revolves around the sun!
    Disease cause by demons –> becomes disease caused by bacteria/virus!
    Slavery good! –> becomes slavery bad!
    Women subservient property –> becomes women equals (well kinda)!
    God created earth in 6 days 6,000 years ago -> becomes acceptance of evolution (unless you are a U.S. based evangelical of course)!
    kissing same gender bad! –> becomes ... er wait. That one hasn't happened yet. Mark my word though. It will.

    With these ever changing interpretations, its amazing the religious can say their religions aren't man made with a straight face!

    February 10, 2014 at 12:10 pm |
    • The Running Twit

      they start by kissing the feet.

      then they move up, some stop in the middle for a long time. I wonder why?

      February 10, 2014 at 12:14 pm |
  20. I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

    It's time American Protestants lightened up and stopped being hypocritical.

    Conidering beer drinking as religiously acceptable is a step forward to acheive both of these.

    One of every two beers consumed in the US is made by Budweiser. An enormous market for In-Bev AB is NASCAR fans, and they, as we know, are mostly Southern and Protestant.

    February 10, 2014 at 12:08 pm |
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