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February 8th, 2014
12:48 PM ET

Praise the Lord and pass the beer, change is brewing among American Christians

By Brett McCracken, special to CNN

(CNN) - Something is brewing among American Protestants, and it has a decidedly hoppy flavor.

For much of the last century in the United States, Protestant Christianity’s relationship with beer was cold or even hostile at times. Protestant organizations such as the Woman’s Christian Temperance Union and the Anti-Saloon League led the campaign to make alcohol illegal.

Even after Prohibition ended, many evangelicals defined themselves by their abstention from alcohol, called “the beloved enemy” by televangelist Jack Van Impe.

Drinking was, and in many cases still is, outlawed on Christian college campuses and among leadership of many churches and denominations.

But in recent years, change has been fermenting. Taverns and beer halls, once dismissed as the domain of the “worldly” in need of reform, are today the meeting places for churches

Consider the following:

● “Bar Church,” a self-described “nontraditional church,” which meets at Memories Bar in Abilene, Texas, and is an offshoot of Southern Hills Church of Christ.

● North Brooklyn Vineyard, which meets at Trash Bar in Williamsburg, New York.

● Fort Worth’s “Kyrie,” which advertises itself as “Church in a Pub” and meets at Zio Carlo bar on Sunday nights.

Other churches are starting beer-friendly Bible studies or ministries, such as:

● “Beer and Bonhoeffer,” at Southlands Church in Brea, California, which meets to discuss German theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s “The Cost of Discipleship,” while parishioners share their favorite craft brews. “I feel that real and honest discussions between men happen when we have a nice IPA or stout in our hands,” said group founder Pastor Kevin Meisch.

● “Beer & Hymns,” a gathering at First Christian Church in Portland, Oregon, where 100 or so mostly young people sing hymns like “Be Thou My Vision” while guzzling home-brewed beer from plastic cups. Similar “beer and hymns” events have occurred at churches in St. Paul, Minnesota, and Cincinnati.

● “Beer, Bible and Brotherhood,” an Oxford, Connecticut, group launched by the Rev. John Donnelly of Christ Church Quaker Farms, which studies Rick Warren’s "40 Days in the Word," while quaffing Sam Adams brews.

● “What Would Jesus Brew?” Valley Church in Allendale, Michigan, sponsors gatherings for craft beer enthusiasts, designed to “reach out to people in a loving, grace-filled way that meets people where they are and as they are.”

And all this is on top of the dozens of Catholic “theology on tap” events taking place at taverns across the country.

In the Protestant world, the trend toward tolerance of alcohol reaches beyond churches into conservative college campuses as well.

Last August, Chicago’s Moody Bible Institute — which just last year lifted a ban on long hair for men and nose stud earrings for women — dropped its ban on alcohol and tobacco consumption for its faculty and staff.

In September, Southern California’s Biola University — founded as the Bible Institute of Los Angeles in 1908 — lifted its ban on alcohol and tobacco for of-age graduate students, noting that the changes “shift the responsibility of conduct from the institution to the individual.”

Even though they are still banned from consuming beer while students, many recent graduates of evangelical colleges are starting to make an impact in the craft beer industry.

Several recent graduates of Indiana’s Taylor University launched the website ThePerfectlyHappyMan.com, which offers craft beer reviews and tips for beer tasting and making.

Tom Smillie, Christian beer maker and writer for The Perfectly Happy Man, says his love of good beer has allowed him to build relationships with nonbelievers.

“Sometimes I’ll go alone to a bar and have a great conversation with a person about sports, politics and most often religion,” said Smillie. “Beer is communal and appeals to the common man. Interestingly the gospel message is, too.”

The communal value of beer also appeals to Scott Sullivan, an alumnus of evangelical Calvin College who owns the Greenbush Brewing Company in Sawyer, Michigan.

“We are the community gathering place,” notes Sullivan, whose pastors are regulars in his taproom.

“Conversations and debates go on all day and people trade ideas. … I’ll often have a pastor sitting next to an atheist talking about all sorts of things, which isn’t something that can happen in a conventional church setting. How can you beat that?”

Christian craft beer aficionados like Smillie and Sullivan are also quick to point out that beer history is closely tied to Christian history.

St. Patrick reportedly used beer as a way to lure in Irish heathens before he converted them to Christianity. In the Holy Roman Empire, beer lover Charlemagne promoted improvements in brewing at monasteries throughout the empire, gradually making the church the primary wholesaler of beer in society.

Some brews today — such as Weihenstephan (founded 1040 AD) and Leffe (1240 AD) — originated in medieval monasteries. Famous nun Hildegard von Bingen was a brewer and is sometimes credited with the discovery that hops add preservative qualities to ale.

Despite their sometimes dour reputation, America’s Puritan founders were also big beer fans.

The Mayflower and other ships to the Massachusetts Bay Colony were stocked with ample wine and beer. In 1620, the ship carrying John Winthrop to the Massachusetts Bay Colony contained three times as much beer as water. In 1630, the Arabella brought Puritans to New England with at least 10,000 gallons of beer in tow.

Beer — then safer to drink than water — was such a necessary staple for the Pilgrims that a brewery was the first permanent building constructed in Plymouth.

Among colonial Christians, “no one felt any tension between Christianity and the moderate use of alcohol,” notes historian Mark Noll. Rather, most believers in America before 1800 “regarded the moderate use of alcoholic beverages, particularly beer and wine, as a privileged blessing from a gracious God.”

Perhaps today’s “beer Christianity” is not so much a new trend as it is a return to the posture toward alcohol that characterized much of Christian history?

Certainly vestiges of the temperance and Prohibition movements of 19th and 20th century American Christianity remain.

Many conservative denominations — Southern Baptists, for example — still discourage members, and particularly leaders, from consuming any alcohol.

In 2011, well-known pastor John MacArthur minced no words in chastising the “Young, Restless, Reformed” movement of young Calvinists for their fondness of beer.

“Cultivating an appetite for beer,” wrote MacArthur, “is not merely bad missional strategy and a bad testimony; it is fraught with deadly spiritual dangers.”

The dangers are real, to be sure. No one disputes the fact that drinking has its fair share of downsides, spiritually, physically, emotionally or otherwise. But so do a lot of things.

As I argue in my new book “Gray Matters: Navigating the Space Between Legalism & Liberty,” there are many perfectly good things in the world that can go wrong when we consume them recklessly.

The answer for Christians is not to demonize the good gifts of culture and wholly avoid them; nor is it to consume indiscriminately or immoderately.

As Martin Luther once said, “Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?”

Luther viewed beer as a gift from God — something with the potential to be misused, but also something that could be used to honor the creator.

That’s how I hope Christians today see it as well — not as a lightning rod of the culture wars, to be avoided or embraced as some sort of statement, but as a pleasurable gift of a good God, who made water, yeast, barley and hops, and human beings with the creative capacity to brew up something wonderful.

Brett McCracken is the author of "Gray Matters: Navigating the Space Between Legalism & Liberty" and "Hipster Christianity: When Church and Cool Collide."

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Church • evangelicals • Protestant • Sacred Spaces • Spirituality

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  1. Salero21

    Now if atheism is Total stupidity the church of the drunkards or the drunkard church is 999.99% stupidity. Now that's some progress!!! That goes unchallenged, undisputed and unrefuted. That's why atheist resort to AD HOMINEM attacks, because they can't disprove neither refute what I've been saying all along. That's because atheism places mankind below the level of animals.

    February 10, 2014 at 6:20 pm |
    • Salero21

      Alcoholism and all other addictions, as well as atheism/evolutionism/communism etc. brings mankind down to levels below the animals. Only man was Created on the image and likeness of God at the beginning.

      February 10, 2014 at 6:24 pm |
      • Salero21

        Alcoholism and all other addictions, as well as theism etc. brings Salero21 down to levels below the animals.

        February 10, 2014 at 6:34 pm |
      • bootyfunk

        try thinking for yourself - you won't regret it.

        February 11, 2014 at 5:24 am |
    • Salero21

      Now if Salero21 is Total stupidity the church of the drunkards or the drunkard church is 999.99% stupidity. Now that's some progress!!! That goes unchallenged, undisputed and unrefuted. That's why Salero21 resorts to AD HOMINEM attacks, because she can't disprove neither refute what I've been saying all along. That's because Salero21 is below the level of animals.

      February 10, 2014 at 6:32 pm |
      • saggyroy

        The .01%'ers

        February 11, 2014 at 5:38 am |
    • bootyfunk

      atheists resort to ad hominem attacks coming from the guy that started his post with,
      "Now if atheism is Total stupidity..."

      pot, meet kettle.

      February 11, 2014 at 5:21 am |
  2. myweightinwords

    Nice to see some changes around here.

    February 10, 2014 at 5:28 pm |
    • hithereeeee

      What changes?

      February 10, 2014 at 5:38 pm |
      • myweightinwords

        The removal of the Report Abuse button for one.

        February 10, 2014 at 6:08 pm |
        • realityyyyyyy

          It was a way of self-policing but it got out of control. Now maybe the moderators will be more vigilant about non-topic items.

          February 10, 2014 at 6:36 pm |
        • myweightinwords

          A board like this one doesn't do well with self-policing, as we have seen.

          It isn't strictly off topic items that are the problem, it's the endless, baseless attacks that devolve into name calling and little else.

          It would be nice, however, to actually have a conversation that doesn't just disappear because someone disagrees.

          February 10, 2014 at 6:39 pm |
    • Salero21

      Yeah, now freaking atheists may not be able to borrow (steal) my handle/moniker/nickname. These atheists are extremely hypocritical and compulsive, pathetical, pathological and perverse liars. Which proves what I've been saying that atheism is Total stupidity. They must fell like roaches after a light is lit in a dark room. Some of them stole my handle several times and misuse it for their very evil and perverse purposes, posting undesirable and very vulgar language. That's another proof of what I've been saying all along. It's no surprise they do that since in their refusal/rejection of the Evidence of God Creation and Being they are always braking God's Commandments. That's why their economics system of choice is almost always communism. These perverted philosophy/system fit well with their lack of honesty as previously stated. 😉

      February 10, 2014 at 6:09 pm |
      • In Santa We Trust

        Whereas your posts are the epitome of honesty?

        February 10, 2014 at 6:15 pm |
        • Salero21

          Obviously!!! 😉

          February 10, 2014 at 6:21 pm |
      • myweightinwords

        Generally, Salero, I don't reply to you because I find you distasteful, angry and vile.

        That said, all of the handle stealing that was going on was attacking both Christians and Atheists alike, so you can not claim persecution in that regard. Perhaps if you were less hateful you would find people would have less desire to behave in such a manner. And yes, I'd give that same advice to most others who had stolen handles, whether they were Christian or Atheist.

        February 10, 2014 at 6:34 pm |
      • realityyyyyyy

        From the original Reality and Reality #2 who had to register under a new user name:

        The nitty-gritty of Christianity's problems is addressed above by the deaf ex-pastor. I recommend reading his complete commentary before again noting anything derogatory about atheists.

        February 10, 2014 at 6:42 pm |
  3. Apple Bush

    There is a song that permeates the universe. A song that tells the tale of creation, our past and our future. We must listen to it, not pretend it can be found in the books of mankind. Our faculties may not be robust enough to hear the music (yet) but if you are looking for heaven, learn to shut up and listen.

    February 10, 2014 at 5:23 pm |
  4. TruthPrevails1

    Now that they've fixed this, I wonder if we'll see Austin or LoA around.

    February 10, 2014 at 5:23 pm |
    • Pete

      Aren't they one and the same?

      February 10, 2014 at 5:32 pm |
  5. Dyslexic doG

    In another century or so the world will look at christianity like we now look at thor and odin in asgard ... and the world will laugh at the written record of christians in this forum and wonder how adults could believe such infantile foolishness. Keep writing your legacies Topher and Lawrence and Salero et al ... It'll make you a punchline someday. Keep writing your legacies Apple Bush, Colin, Bootyfunk, Doc Vestibule, bostontola, Richard Cranium, Tom, Tom, the Other One, Lucifer's Evil Twin, tallulah13 and igaftr, You will be remembered as warriors for the greater good of humanity.

    February 10, 2014 at 5:15 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Write and fight D-doG!

      February 10, 2014 at 5:18 pm |
    • TruthPrevails1

      You forgot Austin and his fables.

      February 10, 2014 at 5:24 pm |
  6. Apple Bush

    Logic Lost

    I saw a sunset and it was perfect.
    Why do you ask me to see another?
    For in waiting for the next sunset, I will endure much suffering!

    Perfection exists in the suffering too.
    Be thankful for the pain.

    Did I not thank you by loving you?

    February 10, 2014 at 5:13 pm |
  7. Ungodly Discipline

    Why does god need human beings to spread his word?

    This is a being that can simultaneously watch, hear or ignore any number of a quadrillion trillion trillion living or inanimate things throughout the universe. This is the all-powerful creator who provided every rule under which we understand our universe.

    All technology flows from him, yet he can't tell us himself to behave?

    February 10, 2014 at 5:11 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      and why does he need us to worship him and tell him how wonderful he is and how powerful he is?

      February 10, 2014 at 5:16 pm |
  8. Ungodly Discipline

    Go now and tell the fools the truth of their misplaced worship.
    Speak loudly that religion is the true great evil on this Earth.
    This Evil affects every plant and animal the Mother gave us.
    Tell them and care not if they are vulgar, for you are the light.

    February 10, 2014 at 5:02 pm |
    • The Running Twit

      Hail Gaia!

      And throw them in the volcano.

      February 10, 2014 at 5:04 pm |
  9. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    B-52's 'Rock Lobster'

    There, now you can switch channels in your head to a different song.

    February 10, 2014 at 4:49 pm |
    • The Running Twit

      Can you put "Planet Claire" after?

      February 10, 2014 at 4:50 pm |
    • truthprevails1

      Isn't counting the B-52's as a musical group kind of like counting Bieber as a singer?

      February 10, 2014 at 4:58 pm |
      • The Running Twit

        He can't even sing a lullaby

        February 10, 2014 at 5:01 pm |
        • truthprevails1

          🙂 Give me Dr Hook or the Beattles or a little RUSH any day.

          February 10, 2014 at 5:07 pm |
        • The Running Twit

          Rush! yeah Tom Sawyer!

          February 10, 2014 at 6:37 pm |
        • TruthPrevails1

          I saw Dr Hook live at an outdoor concert in Ottawa....well worth the money spent.

          February 10, 2014 at 7:23 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Hey man, lay down some be-bop jazz brother. That music is the mad note.

      February 10, 2014 at 5:08 pm |
  10. Apple Bush

    Mary is the mother of God. God is the father of God. Mary therefore had incest with her own son before he was born.

    February 10, 2014 at 4:45 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      God fathered himself after he already existed. This would be a clue that there are flaws in the Bible.

      February 10, 2014 at 5:07 pm |
  11. Apple Bush

    ...and though they grieved and rent their clothes, it was in the pub the followers gathered for darts and dark ale which they hoisted in sadness and drank with great sorrow. Many libations they consumed and they called it the blood of the son of God.

    February 10, 2014 at 4:41 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      beautiful!

      February 10, 2014 at 4:58 pm |
  12. Apple Bush

    I’m back there, tearful stare won’t crack got this attack make me;
    Momma gotta pan man she cracked that dome and went to work left me alone.

    He staggered out drunk blood dripping grinning drinking and throwing it away;
    Pee in the yard and laugh through the bubbling red mucus middle of the day.

    Call out names like “asshole” and “jerk” run fast and hurl bottles at the rusted car;
    “Come over” you tell your friend and scrub the carpet he doesn’t live far.

    Praise the Lord!

    February 10, 2014 at 4:39 pm |
  13. krussell25

    This will probably chase away some christians.
    Now that they cannot have comments removed, what will they do to avoid thinking about them?

    February 10, 2014 at 4:39 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Perhaps they will drink!

      February 10, 2014 at 4:42 pm |
    • notagoper

      Regrettably it will chase away casual users. It won't chase away the trolls who come here for the purpose of baiting people. They will just set up separate WordPress accounts.

      It will cut back on handle stealing.

      February 10, 2014 at 5:28 pm |
      • notagoper

        ....not if you know what you are doing. I am only doing this to show the flaws in the system. I won't do it again.

        February 10, 2014 at 5:35 pm |
        • notagoper

          not so hard to get around it is it?

          February 10, 2014 at 6:26 pm |
      • Apple Bush

        The average "casual" user is a fundie drive-by poster anyway.

        February 10, 2014 at 5:37 pm |
        • notagoper

          I don't think that's true at all. The casual users who come here when CNN links the belief blog to their front page are from all persuasions.

          February 10, 2014 at 5:39 pm |
      • notagoper

        Funny.

        Duly noted.

        February 10, 2014 at 5:37 pm |
      • notagoper

        I still haven't figured out how to put the punctuation back, and eliminate the null blog.

        February 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm |
    • alonsoquixote

      Do you know why some replies don't appear. Sometimes when I reply, the reply seems to be accepted, but doesn't show up. If I try submitting the same reply again, I receive a message indicating it is a duplicate comment. If I then change the reply slightly and try again, it again appears to be accepted, but doesn't show up.

      February 10, 2014 at 11:12 pm |
      • bostontola

        Alonso,
        There are unacceptable letter strings that are automatically flagged, e.g. t.it, c.um, etc, that will get the comment bounced. Words like appet.ite, and circ.umstances with those strings get your comment blocked. Some folks have a good list of them.

        February 11, 2014 at 7:33 am |
  14. Dyslexic doG

    Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!”

    He said, “Nobody loves me.”

    I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?”

    He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?”

    He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me too! Protestant or Catholic?”

    He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me too! What franchise?”

    He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?”

    He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?”

    He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?”

    He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?”

    He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over.

    —Emo Philips

    February 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Probably not supposed to laugh at this... but I did

      February 10, 2014 at 4:29 pm |
      • Ungodly Discipline

        I like that routine Emo did about slaw.

        February 10, 2014 at 4:36 pm |
        • Apple Bush

          Me too.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:37 pm |
  15. Richard W

    ● “Beer & Hymns,” a gathering at First Christian Church in Portland, Oregon, where 100 or so mostly young people sing hymns like “Be Thou My Vision” while guzzling home-brewed beer from plastic cups.

    February 10, 2014 at 4:14 pm |
    • Richard W

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8t-sQ8savg&w=640&h=360]

      February 10, 2014 at 4:14 pm |
    • petethepeter

      Got to love Christians that can't even follow one of the basic commandments of thou shall not steal. Stop stealing and pay for your advertising. Duh!

      February 10, 2014 at 4:17 pm |
      • Dyslexic doG

        are you a pumpkin eater?

        February 10, 2014 at 4:26 pm |
    • Richard W

      It's a pity this hymn is not sung that often.

      Nice to hear that the "First Christian" church sings this beautiful hymn!

      February 10, 2014 at 4:21 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        I don't know... but I think Peter Gabriel's song 'Shock the Monkey' is much better

        February 10, 2014 at 4:31 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          LOL – and now everyone my age group, has that song stuck in their heads...

          February 10, 2014 at 4:33 pm |
        • AtheistSteve

          You just had to do that didn't you?

          February 10, 2014 at 4:35 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          Evil isn't in my handle for nothing...

          February 10, 2014 at 4:38 pm |
        • The Running Twit

          Damn! Have to find another song quick!

          On the other hand, I will let this song finish first.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:41 pm |
        • truthprevails1

          That's at least better than what I hear every time I see a post from salero21; LoA or Austin....after all this is their theme song:
          [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48TmWrZMeuI&w=640&h=360]

          February 10, 2014 at 4:42 pm |
        • AtheistSteve

          truthprevails1 said she didn't know the song but I said "Of course you do" so I brought up the youtube video and then she said "Ohhh...that song."

          February 10, 2014 at 4:42 pm |
        • truthprevails1

          I didn't recall the song. I certainly knew it after you played it.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:47 pm |
  16. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    Just when we thought the stupid trolls weren't smart enough to figure out how to create a login...

    February 10, 2014 at 4:03 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      ???

      February 10, 2014 at 4:09 pm |
      • truthprevails1

        Salero21 is back :-(.

        February 10, 2014 at 4:11 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        salero21 – Previous page... the hateful anti-atheist troll...

        February 10, 2014 at 4:13 pm |
        • salero21

          aww you mean you atheists are not happy to see me? That's very, very mean. Which also is more evidence that atheism as well as evolutionism and idolatry are indeed Total stupidity. 😀

          February 10, 2014 at 4:18 pm |
        • Dyslexic doG

          you using the word "evidence" is hilarious! LOLOLOLOL

          February 10, 2014 at 4:21 pm |
        • ungodlydiscipline

          @S21

          I am glad to see you brother. Breath in deep the common sense of the atheist.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:22 pm |
        • Dyslexic doG

          you using the words "common sense" is hilarious! LOLOLOLOL

          February 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm |
        • Pete

          Well at least this troll will have to work hard at creating the multiple handles they post under.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm |
        • truthprevails1

          sal: Actually we don't mind seeing you. You help us in the grand scheme of it. The hate you spew is enough to turn anyone away from your belief system.

          February 10, 2014 at 5:00 pm |
        • Salero21

          truth(lie)prevails1

          If you believe your own gibberish/lies/nonsense/delusions I can sell you the Brooklyn bridge, or would you prefer the Eiffel tower?

          February 10, 2014 at 6:14 pm |
        • In Santa We Trust

          Salero, When you just copy stuff that you don't really understand, it makes no sense and it's obvious to everyone.

          February 10, 2014 at 6:22 pm |
        • TruthPrevails1

          Sal: Where did I lie? It doesn't take much to look back over the last century and see the decline in people following christiniaty. You can try to hide from reality all you wish but eventually it has a tendency of catching up to you. Look around you...christians have fought against LGBT rights for years but yet that fight is lost; the same can be said for abortion and women's rights in general and it's stuff like that, that are the nails in the proverbial coffin of christianty. When you sit there and preach hate against a particular group of people while claiming we're in the wrong and you're in the right, you turn people off of your claims...people tend to avoid negativity for the betterment of peace.

          February 10, 2014 at 6:32 pm |
  17. Dyslexic doG

    phew.

    February 10, 2014 at 3:58 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      How did you get your name to display with capital letters? – without the blog creation

      February 10, 2014 at 4:04 pm |
      • Dyslexic doG

        go into your account settings. You can specify there how you want it to display.

        February 10, 2014 at 4:08 pm |
      • Dyslexic doG

        I had to sign up for wordpress

        February 10, 2014 at 4:08 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          I didn't know you could do that with the 'No Blog' account... but at least now my handle is a cool blue color... LOL

          February 10, 2014 at 4:11 pm |
        • Dyslexic doG

          I do covet your blue name. straight to hell for me. 😦

          February 10, 2014 at 4:25 pm |
        • therunningtwit13

          Had to too

          February 10, 2014 at 4:25 pm |
  18. salero21

    Well, well, well, what do you know? Finally CNN decided to have participants in this Blog Login to post here!!! That should be the end for atheists to borrow (steal) other people handles/monikers/nickname to post undesirable and vulgar comments her!!! It was long overdue!!! That dishonest actions is proof unequivocal that atheists are indeed extremely hypocritical and perverse liars. Which BTW is also evidence of the Total stupidity of atheism!! 😉

    February 10, 2014 at 3:56 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      pitiful trolling.

      February 10, 2014 at 3:59 pm |
    • atheiststeve

      Do tell.
      The biggest abusers of stolen handles has been by Xtian bloggers. So again you prove the lies come mostly from your ilk.

      February 10, 2014 at 4:01 pm |
      • salero21

        You lied you failed! Therefore atheism as Total stupidity remains a truthful Truth! 😀

        February 10, 2014 at 4:21 pm |
        • AtheistSteve

          Shut up Bonehead.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:23 pm |
        • therunningtwit13

          FReedom of speech!

          Even if it´s stupidity!

          February 10, 2014 at 4:30 pm |
        • Salero21

          Whaaat!! An atheist is asking me to shut up!! Just who does he thinks he is in hell? Boy oh boy, really, really one more piece of Evidence on top of more Evidence of the Total stupidity of atheism. I mean; what does this troll has to make him/her/it think that she/he/it can even think of telling me that? See... if that is not proof that atheism is Total stupidity; what else is?

          February 10, 2014 at 4:43 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      In order to troll as much as you're used to, you'll have to setup a dozen or more wordpress accounts!
      You may have to pick just a handful of names from now on.

      February 10, 2014 at 4:05 pm |
    • bostontola

      Sal,
      That's a bit sweeping and harsh, don't you think?

      February 10, 2014 at 4:06 pm |
    • truthprevails1

      Geez, I would have hoped that they would have set an age limit here. Salero, you really should be out frolicking with your boyfriends and not playing on Mommy's computer!

      February 10, 2014 at 4:06 pm |
  19. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    Well that was a pain to get my handle to display correctly...

    February 10, 2014 at 3:35 pm |
    • atheiststeve

      How the heck did you manage that?

      February 10, 2014 at 3:58 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        I went ahead and created a blog account and then changed the 'Public Display' name in my profile. It wasn't actually difficult, just extra steps with no directions/familiarity.

        However, I do see that Dyslexic doG figured out how to display spaces and capitals without the blog site... I'm waiting for him to answer me on HOW he managed that

        February 10, 2014 at 4:08 pm |
        • AtheistSteve

          Thanks...but I also figured it out before coming back to read your instructions.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:10 pm |
        • AtheistSteve

          I did what doG did too. Got a wordpress username without a blog page.

          February 10, 2014 at 4:13 pm |
        • Lucifer's Evil Twin

          I wouldn't have created a useless blog site if I had known that in advance

          February 10, 2014 at 4:14 pm |
        • AtheistSteve

          LET...it was just dumb luck that I noticed the nearly invisible sidebar that said "if you just want a wordoress username"

          February 10, 2014 at 4:25 pm |
  20. realbuckyball

    The production of alcoholic drinks by Christians is nothing new.
    (Catholic) Monks invented Champagne, and have been making wine in the French monasteries for centuries.

    February 10, 2014 at 3:06 pm |
    • bootyfunk

      yes, christians have a long history of manufacturing and distributing that particular drug.

      February 10, 2014 at 3:33 pm |
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