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April 7th, 2014
12:41 PM ET
Megachurch pastor resigns, citing 'moral failing'Fort Lauderdale, Florida (WPLG Miami) The senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale has resigned after confessing to cheating on his wife, according to WPLG Miami. Pastor Bob Coy, 58, reportedly confessed a "moral failing which disqualifies him from continuing his leadership role at the church" to Calvary leaders on Wednesday. A board meeting was called the next day, when he resigned. Coy, who has led the church since its founding in 1985, said he will now focus his full attention on his personal relationship with God and his family. The radio, television and digital media that distributes Coy's teachings have also been suspended. "The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him through the process of full repentance, cleansing and restoration," Calvary Chapel said in a statement. Calvary is one of the largest churches in Florida, with some 20,000 members who worship in 10 locations across the state. "Trusting in God's providence, protection, provision and direction, the staff of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale will continue our mission to 'make disciples' through regular services at all campuses and through myriad other ministries the church has established over the years," the statement said. At an open service at the church Sunday, a letter was read to the congregation from Coy and the board. Assistant pastors who are on staff will continue their usual rotating schedule as teaching pastors for all services, the statement said.
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Resign! How about returning all of the money you swindled from the simpletons in the pews?
Is he prepared to return all the money he collected from his followers? Is he prepared to return the money he owes the American taxpayers, who granted him numerous tax-free benefits as a member of clergy? It's one thing to step down. It's another thing altogether to start actually writing checks to all the people he swindled.
Sorry, No refunds. Please see policy in the back of your bible.
Sincerely,
Pastor Bob Coy
PS Please give on your way out. Thanks.
If self-proclaimed devout believers "truly" believed the alleged dire consequences of sins like those of the pastor, they simply wouldn't knowingly and purposefully sin. If their convictions were as sincere as professed, they wouldn't take the risk. If one sees a bus barreling down on their present position, they move because they unquestionably recognize a disastrous consequence for failing to behave appropriately. Here, the pastor not only failed to get out of the way, but knowingly and purposefully placed himself in the path of the sin. At the very least, it suggests the professed beliefs and the alleged consequences of failing to behave appropriately are subject to internal debate; quite unlike the response to the belief in the consequence of failing to remove oneself from the path of an oncoming bus.
I love to see the right wing anointed ones fall to earth like mere mortals. He must feel like the saying, "Don't Tread on Me." Nothing like a fallen angel known as a right wing Christian.
NOTICE to ALL Theists angry that posters here are holding your brother in Christ accountable for his sin....
We eagerly look forward to you now calling your brothers and sisters in the Body of Christ to account when they post against LGBT or atheists or Wiccans, or abortionists, etc., etc.
And, we also look forward to each of you condeming, with regularity, each time Salero21 and truthfinisher01 post.
Thank you in advance.
lol – hmm, maybe truthfollower01 is thefinisher01. Or maybe they are married.
You didn't know, Doris...that's his angry alter ego?
Ooops!
ssq41,
They'll do that just as soon as they collect tens of millions of dollars to try to change the laws in 50 states that allow divorce and remarriage which is defined by Jesus as ADULTERY.
Observer...that has been a source of entertainment for me...they claim that Gay Marriage is the biggest threat to marriage and yet they abuse their spouse, divorce their spouse and commit adultery against their spouse on a quite regular basis.
The irony is delicious.
what a bunch of religious spin! It's just one way to get out of being responsible for your actions, oh I will be forgiven.. Oh, I am tempted again oh well I will be forgiven! A total load of crap! Anyone who believes this crap has got rocks in their head!
Either, 1. He is tired of acting so holy and wants to retire with his millions or 2. Someone was going to tell everyone that this sc@mbag was a cheating lying lowlife creep.
True true!
He is not a cheating low life creep…he is just like the rest of us….We all need to stop putting people on pedestals…Any one who has gone to that church in the past couple of months, even these past couple of years, if you think back he tried to tell us…even a couple of weeks ago he plainly said from the pulpit what he did and tried to seek a response from us but we made ourselves deaf and blind to his words and to where he has fallen short…..he new he would have to step down…now he has…we can't blame GOD for ours or his 'moral failures'…GOD has given us free will….otherwise we are just useless puppets….we must take responsibility for our actions and our words and how we affect those around us and ourselves… life is gritty and difficult and temptations come at us from every direction continually, blinding us, deceiving us, and chip away at our core and we sin every day even when we don't know it…we can not give up….we can't expect people to perfect even and maybe especially when we claim ourselves a christian….salvation does not make us perfect in this present life, but it does give us an opportunity to see our own personal sins for what they are and hopefully we will chose to learn from our failures and those of others and continually work to change our way, our direction. We must mourn…we must pray without ceasing….we must be vigilant for ourselves and others…we must help each other overcome our weaknesses….we keep our hearts open without judgement for those seeking to confess…. we must keep the mercy seat always open to those who fall….and we all fall….life is a series of failures, recoveries, and successes….don't kick people while they are down, don't add to a persons struggle….help them to see the truth…help them to find their way…forgive….love….start from within...
number1sinner,
It's good to see someone who chooses the Golden Rule rather than negative passages when it involves gays.
We all need to stop putting people on pulpits....
He "new" he had to step down? Really ? Are you sure he "knew" a new gnu ? That would be just beastly of him.
Time to join the 21st Century #1sinner. Modern Neuroscience has proven humans make decisions BEFORE they are aware of them consciously. That means there is no such thing as "free will". Oh well. So much for all that beligious crap.
you have nullified yourself with this response...
These people put themselves on the pedestal then hand down their condemnation and judgement of those who are not living up to their hypocritical standards. They usually only ever repent when they are caught and oddly enough are usually forgiven unlike those they condemned.
There is great truth in your comment. I know these people personally and they believed lies about me and shunned me and condemned me and refused to ask me whether or not what I was accused of was true or even if I had a defense for myself and I also did not respond in an acceptable way to the accusations placed on me...Even before this recent 'moral failure' of this pastor, but I don't want to be like them. I want to forgive. It is a daily struggle…I find myself a failure at forgiving but I have to keep trying... I don't defend his actions/sins or his response to them and I am glad he was dismissed for what he did, but I also believe he needs to be given a chance to truly recognize the magnitude of his actions and hopefully change….as for him becoming a pastor again…no…he should never again be given that responsibility….but he is not who I depend on for my faith and my faith has been greatly rocked and tested these past couple of years.
Is up to his wife first to forgive him, then the church. God not only forgives but removes the sin. He can be restored. So far he has done the right thing in resigning the post. However sin carries consequences, some of these are anxiety, hysteria and Panic.
No doubt he walks away with millions he got from being a "holy man".
No doubt you are clueless!! Your ignorance is the foundation of your base prejudice. Are you free from the sin? You would not have survived under the Law of the OT in Israel. Show mercy and mercy will be show to you, because this THE Sin that many men do commit, then there is the other that almost ALL men do commit.
Looking forward to you panicking when your brothers and sisters in Christ persecute the LGBT community...
Thanks in advance.
ssq41,
Notice that truthfollower01 has disappeared and His Panic has suddenly appeared?
Just a coincidence, of course.
So you're saying he's not walking away with millions? I mean, he could be I don't know. But I just noticed you didn't deny that part. Looked like a lot of name calling to me frankly.
So sin has consequences, but Jebus removes it.
Now THAT certainly makes a lot of sense.
And the difference is?
He certainly must be having to deal with anxiety a result of his sin. So really I don't know why others are almost in the edge of Mass Hysteria even Panic about it. Could it be a conscience problem? He has done the right thing as far as resigning the post.
With a name like Pastor Coy,no one had a clue? Really?
I for one am just SHOCKED! Shocked I tell you!
People should be allowed to sue the church to get back any donations they made when they thought their preacher was a holy man.
I am amazed how people expect this pastor to be beyond reproach, like ready made holiness out of can. Holiness is a process for every human on this earth, including pastors. If you are a human being you are in a spiritual journey whether you want to acknowledge it or not. What about the person he had the affair with? On a spiritual level I would not want to be that person because the break in their moral fiber not only caused a man to fall out of grace with his family but caused both actual and potential parishioners to doubt and brought disrepute to this church, I would not want that on my conscience. But it is probably closer to the truth that neither the pastor or the person he had the affair with are responsible for anyone's faith as each human is responsible for their own spirituality whether they want to be or not. At least this pastor admits his wrong but if they are going to show his face on here then I don't see why he is expected to take all the responsibility for a two sided affair, the other person's face should be publicized on here too.
psychicstalker,
The other person isn't the WORLD CLASS HYPOCRITE he is.
Well, he's admitted to at least two affairs, and unless the two women he had affairs with are high profile pastors of mega churches, their identities aren't really germane. If one is going to be preaching against sin, one shouldn't pursue it.
You are an IDIOT.
Don't we all preach against sin? Or do you promote ra p e, mur der, and theft? No, you don't. That means you also stand against sin. Yet, for some reason you castigate a preacher for falling victim of the VERY SAME things you do.
Yes, even you sin – and you know it.
You seem a little angry. Do you need a hug?
....ooohhhhh I can't wait for Akira's response...going to Chick-Fil-A to get an 8-count McNuggets with a large Lemonaide...
This'll be sooooo good!
Akira- no, just kicking your ar s e.
You seem hel l ben t on pointing out the "wrongdoings" of others, yet we all know you are no better.
Why don't YOU stand up on a public stage and ADMIT your shortcomings. We all know you have them, you can't fool any of us.
Go ahead....I'll look for a post – that would be a start.
Ohhhhh – you don't want to do that, huh? Too embarrassing? Of course it is.
The same is true for this pastor.
THNK.
...and why are my fellow republicans such idiots...why do they think it follows that if one doesn't "preach" then one must support?
Must be so nice to live in a world so black and so white with no other possibilites...
ssq41, I offered him a hug...he seems to be suffering from Faecal Encephalopathy.
ssq41,
"Republican" is becoming more and more to mean "simple-minded black-and-white thought".
SSQ41-
I often ask the same question. You do realize that human failings take many forms.
I suspect you promote "community" and "the common good" yet you decided to castigate a fellow forum member. Doesn't that make you a "hypocrite?" Yes, it does.
See – the "sin" is not recognizing the behavior in yourself – just as you have exemplified in your post.
Observer....the mindlessness is astounding...
Akira...what idiot would pass up a hug from you?...well, here's one, anyway. And Obamacare covers that diagnosis, by the way...I'm sure he would rather suffer, however.
Akira –
Still waiting for that confession of all your wrongdoings here on a public forum....
I can name a couple from your posts here tonight.....you have a long list, you'd better get started!
I don't believe I've ever said I was perfect. I'm not.
I was, however, talking to psychic stalker, and addressing some things that it appeared s/he may have missed.
Sorry, bldrepub...but "sin" is part of your mythology...and your childish behavior here only confirms your lack of integrity...but, that's to be expected from one such as yourself.
...And, bldrepub...I just checked the past year of posts here of Christians persecuting LGBT individuals and community and, shock of all shocks, I can't find your bold, and righteous anger against them for being free of sin....
But what can you expect from a selective, mindless individual such as yourself?
bldrrepublican,
Speaking of IDIOTS, you are defending a guy who made MILLIONS claiming that God was always watching everyone when he obviously didn't believe it. He told thousands of people that God is opposed to adultery, but didn't believe it enough to not do it. He told people that gay marriage was wrong and yet didn't have any sanct-ity in his own.
Keep supporting the world class HYPOCRITE. It displays your intelligence.
Observer-
He did not make "millions". And you do not know that he didn't recognize it in himself – you are ASSUMING that, so that you can stand back and cast judgement.
Yes, what he did was WRONG – but no more wrong than when you didn't call the store back for that extra item they didn't charge you for a while ago....
You are no better than he is, and he is no better than you (yet you castigate him for the fact that he is not better than you in your post above).
We ALL fall short of God's expectations. Some of us privately (in your case) and some of us publicly (in his case).
Funny how passionately self-righteouss these types are...they demand personal responsibility but when someone holds those who look like they do, believe like they do and vote like they do personally accountable, then LOOKOUT you evil hypocrite...
ohhh...bldrepub...your arrogant ignornace is flowering now...a pastor is always held to a higher standard...just ask Jesus.
bldrrepublican
"Yes, what he did was WRONG – but no more wrong than when you didn't call the store back for that extra item they didn't charge you for a while ago...."
I greatly believe in HONESTY. I have never done anything like that and never would.
Speak for your OWN morals. They look really shaky.
@bldr
"I can name a couple from your posts here tonight…..you have a long list, you’d better get started!"
Point them out, please.
bldrrepublican,
Religious leaders are held to a higher standard. God didn't even want any priests that had ANY handicaps including crushed testicles.
Akira-
I don't know what they are.
But I know they exist.
Get started.......
But you just told Akira...but...wait....now you're lying, bldrepub...let's hear the knees hiittin' the floor as you ask your God for forgiveness for lying to Akira and all here...
@bkdr:
This was your post.
"I can name a couple from your posts here tonight…..you have a long list, you’d better get started!"
So, name a couple.
@akira-
Lust, jealousy, deception, just to name a few.
Yes, you have committed EVERY SINGLE ONE of those. I know it. And you know it.
bldrepub says: I don't know what they are.
But just before you told Akira you did.
Why are you such a liar, bldrepub?
Akira-
Have you spent much of your life LYING to people about your belief that God was watching everything you did?
Did you collect millions of dollars from them?
Did you trash gay marriage for not having the "sanct-ity" that marriage must have while you cheat?
@bkdr:
"Lust, jealousy, deception, just to name a few.
Yes, you have committed EVERY SINGLE ONE of those. I know it. And you know it."
Tonight? In my posts? Which ones?
Observer:
No.
who was that bald republican...must have been a driveby....
Nice try, ssq41-
And, yes, akira- TONIGHT you did atleast one of those.
Of COURSE not in a post – why would you think "posting" is all there is to life? You have had 23 other hours of life OUTSIDE of this forum....
Stop trying to trip me up, and man up to your errors......confess....right here....
Oh, and btw, post your name and address so we know WHO YOU ARE. Claiming you're "above" errors and castigating others without being willing to convey who you really are is wimpy.
And dont' bother saying "well – bldr – you don't post your real address either" – but I never said I was above wrongdoings – like you did earlier when you castigated this pastor...you hypocrite.
WordPress is throttling the posting here.....
Trust me, I ain't going away that easily. You all are hypocrites, you just don't like to admit it. YOU are not perfect, but you like to pretend you are. Just because I cannot name your shortcomings does not mean they don't exist.
They DO.
Akira....baldrepub can't make up his mind...and QUIT trying to trip him up...you...you...meany....
poor boy is also blaming the blog....damn, bldrepub, make up your mind.
"I can name a couple from your posts here tonight…..you have a long list, you’d better get started!"
"Of COURSE not in a post – why would you think “posting” is all there is to life? You have had 23 other hours of life OUTSIDE of this forum…."
You made the claim...now provide the evidence.
"Oh, and btw, post your name and address so we know WHO YOU ARE."
You have got to be joking.
"Claiming you’re “above” errors and castigating others without being willing to convey who you really are is wimpy. "
Where did I claim this?
And again, I make no claims...not am I obligated Ito share my information on demand with you.
bldrrepublican,
Thanks for proving our points. By coming on here and immediately offering juvenile insults and name-calling, you have proved once again how much of a HYPOCRITE Christians can be. WWJD? Juvenile insults and name-calling? lol.
"Yes, even you sin – and you know it."
In order to acknowledge "sin", you would have to believe in the existence of a god to sin against
otherwise, it is an empty term
and you know it
psychicstalker....
Looking forward to your passionate defense of every individual LGBT from now on...everytime your brothers and sisters in the Body of Christ persecute them.
Thank you in advance.
LGBT should be helped to bring their lives into harmony with the principals outlined by our loving creator.
Perhaps you'd be happier if you herded them all into a re-education camps like your Communist friends did in Stalin's Russia, Mao's China, and Pol Pot's Cambodia...
Christians: so obsessed with the sin of free will agents and then you get all huffy when your leaders and brothers and sisters in Christ are held accountable.
1. You missed the "loving" part of loving creator, so no, camps are not the answer.
2. Not huffy. Accountability is a good thing. If accepted with humility it will produce a better person.
rednoblue,
Jesus had much to say about the s3xual practices of heteros and much of it was bad.
What did Jesus say about the s3xual practices of gays?
Oh, I'm so sorry...I missed the "loving" God...who is, after all, going to throw them all into the lake of fire for not complying and accepting his son as their savior....that "just" and "merciful" creator.
Nothing like an ultimatum in the guise of a "choice."
"I am amazed how people expect this pastor to be beyond reproach"
Dear psyco.
If an individual preaches to you about sin and how to avoid it, wouldn't you expect him to follow is own words?
That's like someone with healthcare telling people they shouldn't have healthcare! Wait a minute................
We all know that YOU, yes YOU, sin also. I don't need to know a thing about you to know that you have either stolen something, or lied, or lusted after someone, or much worse.
Yes, you have.
Yet you expect this man to be "above" all the temptations of this planet??
FYI – Pope Francis has sinned. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
Use your head for something more than separating your ears....
This is nothing more than a business designed to bring in millions and keep him in a comfortable lifestyle.
@ Bad republican...............I noticed you made it about me, not the cheating preacher. Typical phony christian. Keep the attention on anything else instead of your corrupt religion.
Ahh ... the "Christian" clause ... forgiveness. Rubbage. He's a liar and hypocrite. What a great idea to create a "religion" that says go out and be a rotten person, THEN drink the Kool-AId and all's forgiven. The word "Christian" has become just an excuse to lie, commit adultery and kill in the name of the "Lord". Time to evolve.
Or, it's time for those who worship with their lips to repent...and that will not happen unless God grants it. The vast majority of people who call themselves "christians" are worse than those who deny the Lord, because they add sin to sin. They claim to know better, and so their sin remains. It would be better if they didn't claim to follow the Lord at all.
" We know that those who are born of God do not sin, but the one who was born of God protects them, and the evil one does not touch them. " 1 John 5:18.
"‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me;
in vain do they worship me,
teaching human precepts as doctrines.’ Matthew 15:8-9
"Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if one blind person guides another, both will fall into a pit.” " Matt 15:14
But it is probably closer to the truth that neither the pastor or the person he had the affair with are responsible for anyone's faith as each human is responsible for their own spirituality whether they want to be or not.
--Actually that's not what Jesus said. "Many are called, but few are chosen", and "No one shall come to me, unless the Father draw him."
I'm an atheist. I've been married 8 years. I would not cheat on my wife. There are many great reasons not to do so. I love my children, I could catch a deadly disease. The person could be psychotic. I love my wife. Reason, not faith keeps me from adultery. Moreover, the Christian worldview promotes the idea that we are sinners and we should expect such behavior and forgive it. Not reasonable.
I'm sure that with God's help, he'll somehow find salvation and be forgiven (rolling eyes and smirking).
Once he's been "cleansed and restored" you mean?
Sounds like an old car!
If the old car needs to repent as well, the process would be much the same.
More like an enema and probiotics.
The "cleansing" will come with a new book deal by Zondervan and a country-wide speaking tour. A 3 episode spot on Dr. Phil. And a new church in Colorado.
In reference to the post below me=- your a looossseerrr!!
This HYPOCRITE violated one of the Ten Commandments while picking on gays for an "abomination" (you know, like eating lobsters or Alaskan King crab legs). No marriage for gays, but marriage for a "Christian" like him.
Are you joking? In the old testament it states you can not eat shellfish, we are not in the old testament if we were people would be stoned for adultery, we would be killing animals as a sacrifice, observing the Sabbath etc.
In the new testament we are under a new covenant, and we can eat shellfish etc. The old testament was under the law. I hope this helps you to understand.
keithlc1972,
It's the SAME PERFECT and "UNCHANGING GOD" in both testaments. It was God who set up all the rules for KILLING people. Give Jesus supposed credit for getting him to CHANGE all the rules.
don't you realize that god changes his mind ...A LOT... sort of like when he told the mormons that polygamy was righteous until he decided it wasn't, and told the catholics not to eat meat on Friday and then changed his mind and said it was ok, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
Then why is the OT always used to define what's sinful, Keith? Especially as it relates to gay people?
Are the 10 Commandments to be ignored?
You need to learn a bit more about the covenants before you attempt to use them against Christians, otherwise you look like a flaming idiot, much like you do now.
I'm not going to address your response because it would give you the answer outright.
Read. And. Learn.
Grasshopper.
Please indicate where my question to Keith is wrong( it would appear HE is the one who needs to learn about covenants.
You, on the other hand, could learn some anger management techniques. You appear quite mad.
Ahhhh...the old "you don't know my theology so you can't play in my sandbox"...
You're such a child, bldrepub.
Actually Paul said they were freed form the old law, (unless of course it was convenient NOT to be freed from it ... such as women being silent). It's called cherry picking yer Bible laws. There were 3 levels of abominations. The gay one was the least serious...equal to eating with a foreigner.
The "covenant" was that the Hebrews agreed to worship one (among the many gods they believed in) IF the Babylonian war god (Yahweh Sabaoth) helped them in their battles with their neighboring city-states. Bet they never taught him THAT in Babble College.
LOL... Honey, the "10 Commandments" you people wet all over yourselves about are found in the "Old Testament." Using your argument we can finally rip them from the walls from public buildings since they don't apply.
Yes, rip them from the walls...they have no place there in a Secular country-they do not represent every belief system and most of them are either common sense (do not kill, steal, commit adultery); the first 4 demand idolatry of an invisible deity, while others are thought crimes (nothing that is against the law).
Let me ask you a question....if "we can eat anything we want", and "the OT doesn't apply anymore"...tell me why Peter, years after Pentecost, said he had never eaten an unclean thing? After all, he was New Testament all the way, right? And so, he was free to eat anything he wanted, right?
Do you eat skunk? Rat? Dog? Cat? Why not....?
Those animals are unclean, too.
As far as "observing the Sabbath"...tell me, where is it found in scripture that the 4th commandment no longer applies...? As for that, which of the 10 Commandments no longer applies...?
Stop picking and choosing what parts you live by! If you're going to follow those commandments, then why not follow the rest of the OT instead of sounding like a hypocrite?
Well actually "Biblical" marriage did include a few other women, besides the wife, so I say he's just being "Biblical".
the real question is how many cattle did he receive when he married his wife
Indeed, I wonder if he would receive the same amount of forgiveness if he came out gay?
Quran says (Islamic Scripture)
“The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.” Quran [3:59]
“It does not befit God that He begets a son, be He glorified. To have anything done, He simply says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” [19:35]
“No soul can carry the sins of another soul. If a soul that is loaded with sins implores another to bear part of its load, no other soul can carry any part of it, even if they were related. ... [35:18]
“They even attribute to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims.” Quran [6:100]
“Recall that your Lord said to the angels, "I am placing a representative on Earth." They said, "Will You place therein one who will spread evil therein and shed blood, while we sing Your praises, glorify You, and uphold Your absolute authority?" He said, "I know what you do not know." [2:30]
“They say , "We live only this life; we will not be resurrected. If you could only see them when they stand before their Lord! He would say, "Is this not the truth?" They would say, "Yes, by our Lord." He would say, "You have incurred the retribution by your disbelief." [6:30]
“We have honored the children of Adam, and provided them with rides on land and in the sea. We provided for them good provisions, and we gave them greater advantages than many of our creatures.” Quran [17:70]
“O children of Adam, when messengers come to you from among you, and recite My revelations to you, those who take heed and lead a righteous life, will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.” Quran [7:35]
“O children of Adam, do not let the devil dupe you as he did when he caused the eviction of your parents from Paradise, and the removal of their garments to expose their bodies. He and his tribe see you, while you do not see them. We appoint the devils as companions of those who do not believe.” Quran [7:27]
“Losers indeed are those who disbelieve in meeting God, until the Hour comes to them suddenly, then say, "We deeply regret wasting our lives in this world." They will carry loads of their sins on their backs; what a miserable load! [6:31]
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Poor Pastor Bob Coy. He had remained a faithful servant for so long. We all fall short of Gods grace. We worship Jesus, not Bob and even Bob is human and makes mistakes. My prayers go out to Pastor Bob and his family. The world today is a better place for many thanks to pastor Bobs dedication to preach the gospel and teach the word of the living God. Of course it's just like society to build people up to break them down. As a member of Calvary chappel, and someone who knows many people whose lives were positively impacted and on some cases saved, thanks to pastor Bobs love for Jesus and for the word, i can vouch for the fact that God does use the most unlikeliest of us to do amazing works in his name. Just as pastor Bob has. I pray for healing for his family and for the power of Gods love, mercy, and forgiveness. We love you pastor Bob. You will bounce back from this a stronger man of God. God bless you.
am1015
"Poor Pastor Bob Coy. He had remained a faithful servant for so long"
Poor Pastor Bob. He was caught proving that he doesn't believe God was looking down at him.
So easy to see how all the nonbelievers bestow hatred and anger when they themselves sin. Who are you or anyone one of us to judge anyone. "He who is without sin, cast the first stone". Always so quick to jump all over Christians. We don't promote hate, we promote Gods love and mercy. We bask in it and we find true hope which just annoys the heck out of those who don't know God. So what if Bob Coy messed up. He will find his way back and redeem himself to those that matter most. His God, and his family. We don't go to church to see Bob, we go to hear him preach Gods word. I don't expect anyone who doesn't know God to understand. After all how could you ever understand something you don't truly know. I stand firm in my prayers for Bob, his family and the other person who sinned. It takes a special person to get up on stage every day knowing that the day you mess up, all the critics will spew hatred upon you. Is there really a need for that? Preachers are NOT God, they are brave ppl who study Gods word and share it with others.
brave ppl who study Gods word and share it with others
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God hasn't written any word, that we're aware of. The bible is the work of human authors.
am1015,
Your hero HYPOCRITE was telling people that God always watches them when he obviously was LYING. He opposed gay marriage, but had no problem ignoring the Ten Commandment that he so hypocritically preached.
Of course this loser will claim he is "repenting" just like he claimed God was watching him.
Observer –
How do you know God WAS NOT WATCHING all this take place?? You are assuming that just because it took place means that God didn't see it.
Open your mind a bit, and use your head for more than just separating your ears.
God told us what is sinful. But He does NOT stop us from committing sin. You need to read and learn a bit more, otherwise you look like a flaming idiot...much like you do now.
bldrrepublican,
Speaking of FLAMING IDIOTS, I NEVER said that God wasn't watching. I said that he obviously didn't believe that God was watching.
OOOPS!
"Open your mind a bit, and use your head for more than just separating your ears.
I think bldrepubs use of "flaming" is a strong hint to where and how he wants oh so badly to sin.
"So easy to see how all the nonbelievers bestow hatred and anger when they themselves sin. " What does God's Word say....?
"For what have I to do with judging those outside? Is it not those who are inside that you are to judge? " 1 Cor 5:12.
Have you not judged the nonbelievers, contrary to God's word...?
Poor Pastor Bob Coy...
That's a joke. how many millions did he pocket during those years?
40 million a year in 9income.... No doubt in numbered accounts offshore.
Bob didn't "make a mistake." He chose to blow off the very essence of what he was claiming to believe for a moment of pleasure. That was a reasoned (not reasonable, reasoned) choice, not a mistake.
We all sin and as Christians we must forgive him.
Why do I have to forgive him? He didn't do anything to me. So he had s-es with someone he wasn't married to. Big deal.
You religious folks really have to grow up about a lot of stuff, including s-ex.
I feel like its better to kind of look past faults and focus on how he has benefited people as a Pastor of the years.
What about the person he was cheating with? I guess he benefited him/her also over the years also!
It's probably a big deal to his wife.
If growing up means following the values of a world in which people lie, cheat, steal, and basically act like a bunch of 14 year olds, no thanks.
I don't sin, I either break the law or I don't. You can keep your guilty issues with the boogey man in the sky.
well said.
One day you will have the choice to recognize or not recognize that you sin. I hope that you make the right choice, and swallow your pride.
No doubt, but I wonder if you would be as keen to exonerate him if we were to learn more about what really happened here.
Where is the church outcry asking that laws be passed to make this illegal? Or to control what happens in his bedroom? The bible states that he and the woman he had an affair with must be put to death.
Leviticus 20:10 – And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
same book as all the gay hatred. Where is the outcry to change these laws. PLEASE tell me.
That's because christians only refer to 'God's Word' when it helps promote their hate agenda. In all other cases, turn a blind eye.
Those laws have been on the books for a long time I think. In most states you can only have one wife at a time.
Robert Brown,
It's LEGAL in all 50 states for people to divorce and remarry, thereby becoming ADULTERERS according to the Bible.
Why aren't all these HYPOCRITES trying to change THOSE laws?
While I agree there are different degrees of sin, Jesus made it clear that even looking at another with lust is adultery. That one could be difficult to enforce.
But, to really attempt to answer your question, I think the reason there aren't laws against adultery is that most people must think it is ok to get divorced and remarried. Jesus told them that it was because of the hardness of their hearts that Moses allowed them to divorce their wives.
Of course we know Moses never existed, and ALL the laws and customs imported into the Bible already existed in ancient Near Eastern Canaan. Nothing originated in the Bible, The Bible sanctioned culture. Culture did not sanction the texts that eventually were assembled voted into the canon.
That is a new one on me Bucky. How do you know Moses never existed?
Robert Brown
"I think the reason there aren't laws against adultery is that most people must think it is ok to get divorced and remarried."
Exactly. It's all pick-and-choose HYPOCRISY. Where is all the Christian outrage about LEGAL ADULTERY? They sure don't have much problem getting outraged about gay marriage.
Why are you quoting Jewish law ... Leviticus to a Christian audience. Doesn't make you look very smart.
...And God said he doesn't change....I knew he was drinking to much of the communion wine when he dictated those verses...
When Christians stop using the old testament to try and control people they don't agree with, I will stop using the EXACT SAME BOOK to make them look like hypocritical fools.
So Christians don't believe in the 10 Commandments, isobareng? Odd.
God Himself doesn't propose to judge a man until
he is dead. So why should you?
Indeed.
So why do so many believe they have that right under Christian tenets?
What?
You mean after He supposedly wiped the Earth clean with a global flood, right?
.... or after all those people He supposedly condemned to Joshua's sword, right?
.... or ....
I judge g-od.
Christians are often accused of "judging" whenever they speak out against a sinful activity. However, that is not the meaning of the Scripture verses that state, "Do not judge." There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise—with careful discernment (John 7:24). When Jesus told us not to judge (Matthew 7:1), He was telling us not to judge hypocritically.Matthew 7:2-5declares, "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." What Jesus was condemning here was hypocritical, self righteousness behavior.
Thus you would be opposed to capital punishment. Right?
Where does that appear?