May 6th, 2014
10:50 AM ET

Hey Boko Haram, pick up a Quran and bring back our girls

Opinion by Arsalan Iftikhar, special to CNN 

(CNN) - Hey Boko Haram, have you read the Quran lately?

Most of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world have, and we're utterly certain that it condemns kidnapping young girls and selling them into slavery - no matter what you say "Allah" tells you.

According to Amnesty International, several hundred schoolgirls - both Christian and Muslim - between the ages of 16 and 18 were abducted at gunpoint on April 14 from their rooms at the Government Girls Secondary School in Chibok, Nigeria, where they had been sleeping.

The armed extremist group Boko Haram, which roughly translates to “Western Education is Sin,” claimed responsibility for these mass kidnappings and threatened to sell these young girls for as little as $12 into sex slavery or forced “marriages” to members of their group.

"I abducted your girls. I will sell them in the market, by Allah," a man claiming to be Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau said in a video first obtained by Agence France-Presse.

"There is a market for selling humans. Allah says I should sell. He commands me to sell. I will sell women. I sell women," he continued, according to a CNN translation from the local Hausa language.

'I will sell them,' Boko Haram leader says of kidnapped Nigerian girl

As a Muslim human rights lawyer, it is obscene and absolutely un-Islamic for these lunatic human traffickers to invoke the name of God while kidnapping young girls and threatening to sell them into sexual slavery.

The leaders of Boko Haram have clearly never read the Holy Quran, which states quite clearly that “oppression is worse than murder” (2:191) and that nobody “shall force girls to commit prostitution” (24:33).

They must have also missed the numerous times that the Prophet Muhammad categorically stated during his life that women or children were never to be harmed under any situation.

“These abducted schoolgirls are my sisters,” said 2013 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Malala Yousafzai recently in a New York Times interview on the Boko Haram kidnappings.

“The international community and the government of Nigeria (must) take action and save my sisters. … It should be our duty to speak up for our brothers and sisters in Nigeria who are in a very difficult situation.”

Nigeria abductions: 6 reasons why the world should demand action

The real heroes are young Muslim women like Malala Yousafzai and these latest Nigerian schoolgirls who continue to assert their basic human rights to education in the face of danger every day.

These amazing young women will help to empower and motivate our young Muslim girls to become their countries’ next generations of scientists, technologists, engineers and doctors.

In the meantime, the rest of the world’s Muslim population will continue to denounce extremists like Boko Haram.

And we will  proudly stand in solidarity with these missing young schoolgirls in Nigeria, and every other woman around the world who continues to fight for her basic human rights.

Arsalan Iftikhar is an international human rights lawyer, founder of TheMuslimGuy.com and adjunct professor of religious studies at DePaul University in Chicago. The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the author.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Africa • Foreign policy • Human trafficking • Islam • Muslim • Nigeria • Opinion • Quran • Religious violence

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  1. Reality

    The only garbage is that coming out of your bigoted brain !!

    May 9, 2014 at 9:31 am |
    • ldadvocatus

      We see in others that which is in ourselves.

      May 9, 2014 at 9:49 am |
    • Reality

      Oops, the comment was meant for RB and another one of his bigoted rants.

      May 9, 2014 at 1:58 pm |
  2. Rainer Helmut Braendlein

    Mr. Iftikhar withholds a very important fact. The Koran distinguishes between two kinds of people: Believers and infidels. Sura 2: 191 and 24: 33 are certainly valid merely for Muslim believers. Muhammad himself had never applied those suras for infidels.

    What is an infidel? Muhammad implied that all divine teachers had actually been Muslims (Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, the apostles, etc.) Muhammad implied that they had teached the genuine Islam, but their listeners were disobedient, forged the genuine doctrine of their teachers, and became Jews and Christians. Muhammad considered it as his special task to restore the genuine faith of Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. which was Islam in his eyes. Therefore an infidel is somebody who doesn't accept Muhammad as a new prophet whom God has sent to restore the genuine faith of Allah.

    Sad, but true: Boko Haram acts according to Muhammad's will and the Koran: They humiliate the infidels.

    Sura 9: 29 of the unholy Koran

    "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

    "Such of those who have been given the Scripture" are Jews and Christians.

    "Believe not in Allah nor the Last Day" means Jews and Christians who are not ready to convert to Islam

    "Religion of Truth" means Islam

    This sura is a clear proof that Muhammad was extremly bigoted because he commanded to fight those who were not ready to convert to Islam.

    In contrast Jesus commanded to endure and even to love (Sermon on the Mount) people who are not ready to convert to Christianity. Of course, Jesus wants the Church to spread the gospel, but if the people don't accept the gospel, the Church shall not fight them, but keep on loving them. The Roman Catholic Church failed: She spread a distorted gospel, and fought the people who were not ready to accept it, even the true Christians believen in the pure gospel of Jesus.

    May 9, 2014 at 4:50 am |
    • Reality

      And the biblically-bigoted RB again oozes of the hatred ingrained in all Lutherans !!!

      May 9, 2014 at 6:44 am |
      • Rainer Helmut Braendlein


        May 9, 2014 at 6:46 am |
      • heraldbob

        Read this to understand how the muslim mind works – http://www.dailymirror.lk/opinion/172-opinion/46882-boko-haram-insulting-islam-and-serving-imperialism.html

        This is exactly how these swines think.

        May 9, 2014 at 7:54 am |
        • wjshelton

          Reading comprehension isn't your strong point, is it? The article you cite is actually are reasonable and well thought out piece. Mr. Izzadeen makes statements and explains what he means and how he came to that conclusion. He does not use insulting language in any way, which is a practice that you could benefit from. I am certain that the author knows far more about the subject than you do. He actually bothers to cite evidence. You only hurl insults.

          May 9, 2014 at 8:26 am |
    • heraldbob

      Arsalan you are just another pathetic muslim dog who will again use any theory to deny the fact that Islam instigates hatred against other believers.I was reading yet another defensive article by obviously another muslim swine , who starts off by saying that Boko Haram was coined as a phrase when the africans were being colonized and forced to convert to christianity. This same author then goes on to suggest that the Nigerian president Jonathan purposely delayed action,thus prompting the local presence of Americans . The inference from this Muslim Pig is that this was all done to help the USA build a military base in Nigeria and spread their "Imperialism".

      May 9, 2014 at 7:32 am |
    • ldadvocatus

      Please elaborate on the "distorted" Gospel you claim was spread by the Catholic Church?

      May 9, 2014 at 9:47 am |
      • Rainer Helmut Braendlein

        The Catholic Church introduced the so-called works rightouesness:

        You are a blissful Catholic, if you daily pray a rosary, keep certain feastdays, fast sometimes, make a pilgrimage to Rome or another holy place, venerate certain Saints, buying indulgence, etc.

        Nobody asks, if you really practice love of neighbour through the releasing power of Jesus in daily life. That would be the true faith, and the only faith which saves.

        May 9, 2014 at 10:04 am |
  3. ldadvocatus

    [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

    May 8, 2014 at 9:02 pm |
  4. Emma

    Reblogged this on Knightleyemma.

    May 8, 2014 at 11:24 am |
  5. Doc Vestibule

    Most Muslims are aghast at the actions of these extremists and are saying so publicly, though their statements receive little or no press attention.

    "We condemn wholeheartedly, the disgusting and un-Islamic actions that the terrorist group known as Boko Haram has committed. Kidnapping and threatening to sell the over 200 Ni.gerian school girls has no validation in the religious tradition of Islam and we urge the Ni.gerian authorities to find the missing school girls and bring their captors to justice."
    – The Islamic Society of North America

    "It is almost impossible to express the level of disgust felt by American Muslims at the un-Islamic and obscene actions of the terrorist group Boko Haram for the kidnapping and threat to ‘sell’ hundreds of Ni.gerian schoolgirls. We urge authorities in Ni.geria and throughout the region to do everything they can to return the girls safely to their families and to eliminate the threat to peace and security posed by Boko Haram."
    – Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

    Even the Iranian government has distanced themselves from Boko Haram nutbars.
    "We completely reject this inhumane act as an unacceptable move and we hope that action will be adopted to prevent operation of extremist groups and terrorists in Ni.geria and the world and we hope that stability and tranquility will be established in that country at the earliest."
    – Marziyeh Afkham, Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman

    May 8, 2014 at 9:40 am |
    • flightfromfrostmtn

      Boko Harim are Sunni, Iran is Shia.

      CAIR ....CAIR has some serious issues – go online and look at their litigation history...their funding include large influxes of money from Saudi and Qatar sources... pretty sure concern for the victims is not center stage – no their objections are purely based on militants make their goals harder to achieve here in the States.

      May 8, 2014 at 12:32 pm |
    • heraldbob

      Muslims will be willing to start a war in the name of Allah at the slightest instance – or pretext – of Blasphemy.
      And yet i do not see the muslims of the work unite and start a Jihad – when this evil imbecile openly claims that he is doing Allahs bidding.
      To them its fine to kill and maim to protect their beliefs and their own – but they will never look at the world in a humane way.
      They will globally protest a cartoon, a movie – but to them the lives of these girls and other victims mean nothing

      May 8, 2014 at 12:32 pm |
      • flightfromfrostmtn

        you got the evil part right...but imbecile? no this guy know his groups strengths and weaknesses. He didnt melt away and wait for the victims of this BS to gather their strength.... no... he hit them again ....tacticly he is far from an idiot.

        His only miscalculation that ive seen is that people were able to reach the media – and wonder of all wonders, people in the west actually paid attention this time. I am fairly sure that the 230 girls taken were just the latest incident of this kind- not a break from the norm.

        When we go in – it will not be easy to net this group.

        May 8, 2014 at 2:39 pm |
  6. Reality

    The basic problem with Islam, the koranic passages of terror and horror that drive Muslims to commit de-sp-icable acts on a 24/7 basis.

    May 8, 2014 at 7:01 am |
    • wjshelton

      I find it interesting that, of the 6,236 verse / ayat in the Qur'an, people like you are totally fixated on the forty or so "fighting verses" WITHOUT even bothering to read the verses coming before and after them... Talking to you about context is like urinating into the wind...

      May 8, 2014 at 8:35 am |
      • midwest rail

        Unfortunately, it is the extremists' fixation on those verses that is causing the world so much consternation. Pointing it out is hardly a cause.

        May 8, 2014 at 9:20 am |
        • wjshelton

          I'll even give you that one, considering that you, too, are an extremist who is fixated on those verses. You were saying?

          May 8, 2014 at 9:24 am |
        • midwest rail

          Hardly. My day to day existence gives Islam nary a thought. Til these comments appeared. Tomorrow ? Back to irrelevance.

          May 8, 2014 at 9:27 am |
      • Reality

        What said passages have wreaked upon the globe: (and how the US taxpayers have responded to it and other forms of terror)

        As the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

        The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

        ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

        and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

        and more recently

        1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

        1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

        2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

        3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. Iraqi civilians killed as of 05/10/2013/, 113,249-123,978 mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

        4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

        5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

        6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

        7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

        8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

        9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

        10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

        11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

        12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

        13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

        14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

        15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

        16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

        17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

        18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

        19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

        20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

        21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

        22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

        23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "

        o 24) Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:18am EDT
        BAGHDAD (Reuters) – A suicide bomber detonated an explosive-packed car outside a Shi'ite Muslim office in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 26 people and wounding more than 190 in an attack bearing the hallmarks of Iraq's al Qaeda affiliate.
        The bombing on a Shi'ite religious office comes at a sensitive time, with the country's fractious Shi'ite, Sunni and Kurdish blocs locked in a crisis that threatens to unravel their power-sharing deal and spill into sectarian tensions."

        25) BURGAS, Bulgaria | Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:27am EDT

        (Reuters) – A suicide bomber carried out an attack that killed seven people in a bus transporting Israeli tourists in Bulgaria, the interior minister said on Thursday, and Israel said Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants were to blame.

        26 ) September 12, 2012
        Envoy to Libya dies in rocket blast

        27) Boston Marathon horror – April 2013, four dead, hundreds injured and maimed for life. A
        Continued below:

        Other elements of our War on Terror and Aggression:

        -Operation Iraqi Freedom- The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles as of 09/15/2011/, 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

        – Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed mostly due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror,

        – Sa-dd-am, his sons and major he-nchmen have been deleted. Sa-dd-am's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes. Kuwait was saved.

        – Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

        – North Korea is still u-ncivil but is contained.

        – Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

        – The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

        – – Fa-na–tical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

        – Timothy McVeigh was exe-cuted. Terry Nichols escaped the death penalty twice because of deadlocked juries. He was sentenced to 161 consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole,[3][7] and is incarcerated in ADX Florence, a super maximum security prison near Florence, Colorado. He shares a cellblock that is commonly referred to as "Bombers Row" with Ramzi Yousef and Ted Kaczynski

        – Eric Ru-dolph is spending three life terms in pri-son with no par-ole.

        – Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

        – Islamic Sudan, Dar-fur and So-malia are still terror hot spots.
        – The terror and tor-ture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Ra-dovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war – charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

        The capture of Ratko Mladić: (Serbian Cyrillic: Ратко Младић, pronounced [râtkɔ mlǎːditɕ], born 12 March 1943[1][2]) is an accused war criminal and a former Bosnian Serb military leader. On May 31, 2011, Mladić was extradited to The Hague, where he was processed at the detention center that holds suspects for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).[3] His trial began on 3 June 2011.

        – the bloody terror brought about by the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

        – Bin Laden was executed for crimes against humanity on May 1, 2011

        – Ditto for Anwar al-Awlaki on September 30, 2011

        – Ditto for Abu Yahya al-Libi on June 5, 2012

        – The capture of Abu Anas al-Libi on October 7, 2013

        May 8, 2014 at 12:21 pm |
        • wjshelton

          Since you choose to go back to, supposedly, to the 7th century AD, then we could go ahead and do the same thing for Christianity. The results would be pretty much the same, even if you consider that, in both cases, geopolitics and economics drove both groups, not religion. Same can be said about your so-called "current". And, then, you stick in a bunch of things at the end that have nothing to do with your assertions.

          Hey, at least I now know that you can cut and paste. What a waste of time ...

          May 8, 2014 at 1:00 pm |
        • Reality

          We don't live in the past but indeed Christianity was no religion of peace for a long period of time.

          Other acts of terror were listed to show that acts of terror are not limited to Islam which is hardly a religion of peace as it says it is. And the US taxpayers will continue to address these acts no matter who is responsible.

          Regarding tabulating, copying and pasting the data: It is important to show the extent of the problem. In that regard some comparisons of global terror over the centuries via body counts.

          The Twenty (or so) Worst Things "GOD'S CREATURES" Have Done to Each Other:

          M. White, http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)

          The Muslim Conquest of India

          "The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

          Rank …..Death Toll ..Cause …..Centuries……..(Religions/Groups involved)*

          1. 63 million Second World War 20C (Christians et al and Communists/atheists vs. Christians et al, Nazi-Pagan and "Shintoists")

          2. 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C (Communism)

          3. 40 million Genghis Khan 13C (Shamanism or Tengriism)

          4. 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C (Anglican)

          5. 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C (Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Chinese folk religion)

          6. 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C ( Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion vs. a form of Christianity)

          7. 20 million Joseph Stalin 20C (Communism)

          8. 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C (Islam)

          9. 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C

          10. 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C (Christianity)

          11. 15 million First World War 20C (Christians vs. Christians)

          12. 15 million Conquest of the Americas 15C-19C (Christians vs. Pagans)

          13. 13 million Muslim Conquest of India 11C-18C

          14. 10 million An Lushan Revolt 8C

          15. 10 million Xin Dynasty 1C

          16. 9 million Russian Civil War 20C (Christians vs Communists)

          17. 8 million Fall of Rome 5C (Pagans vs. Christians)

          18. 8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C (Christians)

          19. 7½ million Thirty Years War 17C (Christians vs Christians)

          20. 7½ million Fall of the Yuan Dynasty 14C

          *:" Is religion responsible for more violent deaths than any other cause?

          A: No, of course not – unless you define religion so broadly as to be meaningless. Just take the four deadliest events of the 20th Century – Two World Wars, Red China and the Soviet Union – no religious motivation there, unless you consider every belief system to be a religion."

          Q: So, what you're saying is that religion has never killed anyone.

          A: Arrgh... You all-or-nothing people drive me crazy. There are many doc-umented examples where members of one religion try to exterminate the members of another religion. Causation is always complex, but if the only difference between two warring groups is religion, then that certainly sounds like a religious conflict to me. Is it the number one cause of mass homicide in human history? No. Of the 22 worst episodes of mass killing, maybe four were primarily religious. Is that a lot? Well, it's more than the number of wars fought over soccer, or s-ex (The Trojan and Sabine Wars don't even make the list.), but less than the number fought over land, money, glory or prestige.

          In my Index, I list 41 religious conflicts compared with 27 oppressions under "Communism", 24 under Colonialism, 2 under "Railroads" and 2 under "Scapegoats". Make of that what you will."

          May 8, 2014 at 2:12 pm |
  7. pakistanichick

    'You can't have a war on terrorism because that's not an actual enemy, it's an abstract. It's like having a war on dandruff.' Gore Vidal

    May 8, 2014 at 2:49 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      That is the entire point.
      Just as the Red Scare served to keep America's weapons based economy running for half a century, so does the War on Terror. The need for a global, de-centralized boogie man to keep Pentagon budgets up was expressly laid out during the last years of the Clinton Administration by the Project for A New American Century.
      Republican heavy hitters including Cheney, Wolfowitz, Quayle, Bolton et al. outlined their plan to ensure US dominance as the world's sole Super Power and spread a global "Pax Americana".
      In fact, they were hoping for a "new Pearl Harbour" in order to get public support for massive military expenditures to "Rebuild America's Defenses", including such things as advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes. They hoped such advances would transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.
      Remember the colour coded terror alerts? How scared should you be of Muslims coming to overthrow America? Be orange afraid. Very orange.

      May 8, 2014 at 9:17 am |
      • Reality

        Lots of conjecture but where are the references supporting it?

        May 8, 2014 at 12:25 pm |
        • wjshelton

          Go read the bottom line on the annual reports for major weapons producers... That's where you'll find some of Doc Vestibule's references.

          May 8, 2014 at 1:03 pm |
        • Doc Vestibule

          https://wikispo oks.com/w/images/3/37/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
          (remove the space)

          May 8, 2014 at 1:36 pm |
      • Reality

        Hmmm, said reference notes the following:

        “As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the
        world’s most preeminent power. Having led the West to victory in
        the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does
        the United States have the vision to build upon the achievement of
        past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a
        new century favorable to American principles and interests?
        “[What we require is] a military that is strong and ready to meet
        both present and future challenges; a foreign policy that boldly and
        purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national
        leadership that accepts the United States’ global responsibilities.

        “Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its
        power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global
        leadership of the costs that are as-sociated with its exercise. America
        has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia,
        and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite
        challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th
        century should have taught us that it is important to shape
        circu-mstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they
        become dire. The history of the past century should have taught us
        to embrace the cause of American leadership.”

        – From the Project’s founding Statement of Principles

        Any other references to support your conjecture? This one does not.

        May 8, 2014 at 6:54 pm |
        • Doc Vestibule

          Did you read the entire docu/ment?

          "If an American peace is to be maintained, and expanded, it must have a secure foundation on unquestioned US military preeminence" (p. 4).

          "Under the 'Land Warrior' program, some Army experts envision a 'squad' of seven soldiers able to dominate an area the size of the Gettysburg battlefield – where, in 1863, some 165,000 men fought" (p. 62).

          "the process of transformation,even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor."
          (p. 61)

          "forces that are insufficient to fight multiple theater wars simultaneously cannot protect American global interests and allies. Neglect or withdrawal from constabulary missions will increase the likelihood of larger wars breaking out and encourage petty tyrants to defy American interests and ideals."
          (p 13)

          "no moment in international politics can be frozen in time; even a global Pax Americana will not preserve itself."
          (p 1)

          "they (NATO) demand American political leadership rather than that of the United Nations...
          Nor can the United States assume a UN-like stance of neutrality; the preponderance of
          American power is so great and its global interests so wide...

          Biological weapons:
          "advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool"
          (p. 60)

          A Complete List of PNAC Signatories and Contributing Writers

          May 9, 2014 at 9:14 am |
        • Reality

          Might want to give the entire paragraph of your readings to give the context of the text. Again you fail to support your conjecture:


          p. 60:

          "Although it may take several decades
          for the process of transformation to unfold,
          in time, the art of warfare on air, land, and
          sea will be vastly different than it is today,
          and “combat” likely will take place in new
          dimensions: in space, “cyber-space,” and
          perhaps the world of microbes. Air warfare
          may no longer be fought by pilots manning
          tactical fighter aircraft sweeping the skies of
          opposing fighters, but a regime dominated
          by long-range, stealthy unmanned craft. On
          land, the clash of massive, combined-arms
          armored forces may be replaced by the
          dashes of much lighter, stealthier and
          information-intensive forces, augmented by
          fleets of robots, some small enough to fit in
          soldiers’ pockets. Control of the sea could
          be largely determined not by fleets of
          surface combatants and aircraft carriers, but
          from land- and space-based systems, forcing
          navies to maneuver and fight underwater.
          Space itself will become a theater of war, as
          nations gain access to space capabilities and
          come to rely on them; further, the distinction
          between military and commercial space
          systems – combatants and noncombatants –
          will become blurred. Information systems
          will become an important focus of attack,
          particularly for U.S. enemies seeking to
          short-circuit sophisticated American forces.
          And advanced forms of biological warfare
          that can “target” specific genotypes may
          transform biological warfare from the realm
          of terror to a politically useful tool."

          May 9, 2014 at 2:09 pm |
        • Doc Vestibule

          So you DON'T think that this docu/ment outlines a plan for a global American Empire ?

          May 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm |
        • flightfromfrostmtn


          No sir, they have scenarios running continuously through think tanks...some are quite crazy in subject and scope.

          No- they could never hope to hold such a plan together. Take the largest weapon system we have going- the F-35 program, if American dominance were the true goal- why not keep it to ourselves?, we didn't need anyone else involved at all, there was no reason whatsoever to put the tech at risk, but here we are – some 14 nations now buy in – China probably has every original blueprint of the aircraft by now and all its critical systems, engine, avionics etc. So why did we – why are we selly away all our advantages? Money... individual gain, Cheney was just pushing for the lucrative contracts for his pet companies. The Clintons both played a part in China's rise – why? so their Walmart stock would get a boost. The Koch bros.?
          These guys are old men – what do they care about the environment or climate? they will be dead soon anyway – all that matters is the money. American Dominance is a pipe dream.

          Doc – usually you are on the money with whatever you say– but on this....even if you were right, these guys could never put aside their own greed to make it work.

          May 9, 2014 at 3:56 pm |
  8. cracaphat

    It has been a long time since I saw such a pathetic avoidance of an interviewer's questions. Iftikhar would not acknowledge
    the Muslim countries lack of even a peep about the situation and instead blahed blahed about nothing. It is that kind of in denial behavior that gives non Muslims the impression, that these actions are tacitly supported by them.
    But now if someone started casting aspersions about Mohammed and his mother then the whole Muslim world is gonna let us know about it...

    May 8, 2014 at 2:34 am |
  9. growinghappytree

    Reblogged this on Growing The Happy Tree and commented:
    Well said. I've had enough of people waving a banner just to get attention, being paid just to be part of some sick propaganda. Of people parading themselves behind something they don't even begin to understand. This ignorance has to stop.

    May 7, 2014 at 11:57 pm |
  10. Benny

    I can write hundred of verses to justified what Boko Haram did. Below is one of them:

    Since Allah makes such a strong distinction between Muslims and those outside the faith, it is only
    natural that Muslims should incorporate disparate standards of treatment into their daily lives. The
    Quran tells Muslims to be compassionate with one another but ruthless to the infidel:

    Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the
    disbelievers and merciful among themselves! (48:29)

    Islam do not love ALL God creatures, they only love to one another.

    May 7, 2014 at 10:35 pm |
    • kenmargo

      Because it was written in a book. It in no way justifies what hapened. Maybe we can add a paragraph to the quran telling muslims and arabs to kill themselves. Drop a few million copies in the middle east. If they simply follow what they read...........

      May 7, 2014 at 11:20 pm |
      • Benny

        The Ayatollah Khomeini, who dedicated his entire life to studying Islam (so he must be expert in Islam), said that non-Muslims
        rank somewhere between "feces" and the "sweat of a camel that has consumed impure food."

        Small wonder. The Quran dehumanizes non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:

        Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (Qs 98:6)

        Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (Qs 8:55)

        May 7, 2014 at 11:25 pm |
  11. metalhead65

    they keep saying it does not represent islam and yet theses type of events happen every day in the name of this peaceful religion.screw them I am proud to be an Infidel!

    May 7, 2014 at 9:38 pm |
  12. ubatori

    Every time there is a hideous display of bestiality, someone HAS to come out and wax pompous on why it is UNISLAMIC. Come on! There is nothing unislamic about kidnapping young women, raping them and selling them on the slave market to other Islamic saints. They have been doing this since the days of the Great Prophet, and that continued a tradition from long ago. Islam just perpetuated, codified and approved bestiality that went out of style as civilization progressed. This is what was done during the pakistani invasion of Jammu-Kashmir in 1948. It was done in the invasion of north India by Genghis Khan. By Tamarlane. By Ghazni and Ghori. In the invasion of Europe by Mohammed's followers. The invasion of Kuwait by the Iraqis. They would have LIKED to do this in Israel in 1967 and 73. They did it in Afghanistan in 1990-92, and in every Islamic goon attack on civilization. In the Pakistani torture of Balochistan. The Pakistani genocide in East Pakistan. It is being demonstrated today in Syria. How then can such behavior be deemed UNISLAMIC? It is the primary characteristic of Islamic behavior as demonstrated since AD780. Please spare us these pompous explanations of how barbarism is UNISLAMIC.

    May 7, 2014 at 9:28 pm |
    • flightfromfrostmtn

      Arsalan Iftikhar i believe is sincere in his stand against Muslim Violence. He is trying to stop violence like this because he supports a much more effective means of conquest.....the backroom meeting. This guy handshakes his way into influential circles and pushes the cause forward more effectively than the barbarity of Boko Haram, Hamas, or al qaeda.

      But make no mistake his goals are exactly the same as theirs....Islamic domination.

      May 7, 2014 at 10:01 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      What was the religious affiliation of those who enslaved and murdered the Native Americans,colonized most of what is now the Third World, dropped the atomic bomb, developed and participated in the political systems of Naziism and Fascism, carried out the Rwandan genocide, participated in torture at Abu Ghraib,carried out ethnic cleansing against the Bosnian Muslims, were responsible for the death of millions in Germany’s death camps?

      May 8, 2014 at 9:43 am |
  13. Michael Thau

    First, Arsalan is also the former National Legal Director of the Hamas-linked Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). If you believe that CAIR is a source of objective and unbiased reporting on Islamic affairs then the rest of this communication becomes irrelevant.

    Second, the Koran is read not literally but subject to Islamic interpretation from credible Islamic sources. SHEIKYER MAMI writes:

    'the mainstream Muslim commentary Tafsir al-Jalalayn explains that 4:3 tells Muslims to “marry only one, or, restrict yourself to what your right hands own, of slavegirls, since these do not have the same rights as wives.” The twentieth-century Qur’an commentator Maulana Bulandshahri explains the wisdom of this practice, and longs for the good old days:

    During Jihad (religion war), many men and women become war captives. The Amirul Mu’minin [leader of the believers, or caliph - an office now vacant] has the choice of distributing them amongst the Mujahidin [warriors of jihad], in which event they will become the property of these Mujahidin. This enslavement is the penalty for disbelief (kufr).

    He goes on to explain that this is not ancient history:

    None of the injunctions pertaining to slavery have been abrogated in the Shari’ah. The reason that the Muslims of today do not have slaves is because they do not engage in Jihad (religion war). Their wars are fought by the instruction of the disbelievers (kuffar) and are halted by the same felons. The Muslim [sic] have been shackled by such treaties of the disbelievers (kuffar) whereby they cannot enslave anyone in the event of a war. Muslims have been denied a great boon whereby every home could have had a slave. May Allah grant the Muslims the ability to escape the tentacles of the enemy, remain steadfast upon the Din (religion) and engage in Jihad (religion war) according to the injunctions of Shari’ah. Amen!

    Now, if the above is accurate (personal attacks against Sheikyer Mami does not mean that it is inaccurate) and representative of mainstream Islamic theological interpretation then there is a theological difference between what mainstream Islamic interpretation sources are claiming versus what Arsalan is presenting. The way to determine which theological position is more theologically accurate is to interview a number of mainstream, highly reputable sources of Quaranic interpretation and compare that with that being presented by the ex-CAIR attorney Arsalan. Until that happens, those who never did and do not practice Islam should focus on not making any assumptions as to what is genuine mainstream Islamic Quaranic interpretation.

    May 7, 2014 at 7:55 pm |
    • kenmargo

      Whenever we hear about muslim atrocities, there's always one thing in common THE QURAN. The da-mn book has a bad habit of being in the center of violence. After awhile it's not a coincidence. If your spouse started getting into trouble after she/he started hanging out with the wrong crowd. Guess what! you'd forbid them from hanging out with that crowd. Yet when it comes to the quran, it's like a magnet and a severe case of stupidity comes over the reader.

      The same thing happens with the bible. Massive amount of moron-itis sets in. Two things we need to get rid of are GUNS and RELIGION. Look at Bozo Ham in the pictures. He's holding a gun and quoting the quran. The problems are obvious.

      May 7, 2014 at 8:50 pm |
    • flightfromfrostmtn

      "First, Arsalan is also the former National Legal Director of the Hamas-linked Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). If you believe that CAIR is a source of objective and unbiased reporting on Islamic affairs then the rest of this communication becomes irrelevant."

      suprise suprise.....CAIR the people working overtime to make criticism of Islam outright illegal in this country.

      May 7, 2014 at 8:54 pm |
  14. mickinmd

    I agree that Islam the religion condemns the Boko Haram actions.

    But I also see that the Muslim leaders of Islamic countries have not issued "fatwas" – religious condemnations – nor has any Islamic nations offered troops or other expertise to help end the terrorism committed by Muslims.

    May 7, 2014 at 7:29 pm |
    • kenmargo

      I stated before, NONE of the arab countries will do anything for two reasons: They are scared of groups of Bozo Ham will start knocking on their doors and they don't care.

      May 7, 2014 at 7:35 pm |
  15. juliett13

    If they REALLY believed this was so "un-islamic" they would be out there screaming in the streets about it like they do over so many small things like our restaurants not serving halal food or people putting up Christmas lights! I have not heard one peep from "Western" muslims about ANY of the violence being done to the Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs and especially the Jewish every day in these islamic countries!! They are just trying to speak up now ( and very weakly I may add) simply because the ones in their home countries doing what they have always done, is now being discovered by the people in the civilized Western countries that they have flooded into and they don't want us here to see them for what they REALLY believe in and stop bending over backward to cater to their every demand!

    May 7, 2014 at 7:16 pm |
    • kenmargo

      Compared to suicide bombings, this is considered "minor league".

      May 7, 2014 at 7:37 pm |
  16. gravatarfocus

    "In the meantime, the rest of the world’s Muslim population will continue to denounce extremists like Boko Haram."

    Really? They sound pretty silent to me. In fact, you rarely hear a peep out of them denouncing extremists.

    May 7, 2014 at 7:12 pm |
    • Salero21

      Very well said!!

      In the meantime atheists entertain themselves in the most extreme of hypocrisies, accusing christians, the church, the Bible and God of promoting, supporting and sponsoring "Slavery". C'est la vie!!

      May 7, 2014 at 7:20 pm |
      • bostontola

        Not at all, just condoning slavery.

        May 7, 2014 at 7:36 pm |
        • Salero21

          Oh just a game of semantics huh. Really that's the stuff of what Charlatans are made of, therefore you're a Charlatan.

          May 8, 2014 at 1:25 pm |
    • juliett13

      Exactly!! So glad to know that I am not the only person who is not completely blind to this issue or too busy making excuses for their violent behavior or lack of condemning it.

      May 7, 2014 at 7:21 pm |
      • kenmargo

        Juliett............When you consider what these people have done from flying planes into buildings, suicide bombings, endless wars etc. I think society isn't surprised and have become numb and/or de-sensitized to it to care. We're tired of conflicts also. We realize they aren't going to change, so i think most people feel the way I do. Let them stay over there and we'll stay over here.

        May 7, 2014 at 7:42 pm |
    • ummando

      Muslim groups and organizations do condemn. It is just that the MSM don't care to cover them, so you never hear about their denunciation unless you read their press releases.
      How often does CNN, Fox or MSNBC actually have a Muslim cleric, scholar or representative from major org on their program talking about these issues?
      The MSM is too busy trying to find a missing plane or investigating Benghazi. smh

      May 8, 2014 at 12:14 pm |
  17. bostontola

    Abuja, Nigeria (CNN) - Boko Haram launched a grisly attack on a Nigerian village in an area that troops had been using as a base in the search for hundreds of schoolgirls abducted by the militant group, witnesses told CNN on Wednesday.

    The hourslong assault on Gamboru Ngala that left at least 150 people dead, some of whom were burned alive, is the latest in a series of brazen attacks and abductions by Boko Haram, raising concern about whether the Nigerian government can retake control of the region from the entrenched terror group.

    Is anyone against drone strikes on these nut cases?

    May 7, 2014 at 6:50 pm |
  18. Salero21


    SEOSEC = Someone Else Or Someone Else's Child.

    A CHICKENHAWK is someone who when they had the chance to serve in the Military didn't. Because they were "pacifists", refuse, did not Volunteer, avoid the Draft, left the country, etc. etc. And now like political careerists want to send all SEOSEC's to wars here, there and everywhere. Kind of like Dick Chenney, Rush Limbaugh and many others here in the Blog like concert, rabiddog and ifhorseshadgods etc

    There are also those everywhere, including Political careerists who are all soo Enamored and all soo Fascinated with all things Military that they don't care to Join and back in their best days were chickens but now are all soo Hawks!! Political careerists, chicken-hawks and those who are all so Enamored and Fascinated with all things Military are basically the same or have the same Mindset.

    May 7, 2014 at 6:36 pm |
    • Salero21

      You can detect a CHICKENHAWK easily. They almost always the First to call for Military action everywhere there is some trouble. They do it because their mentality is that SEOSEC's will be there always for them to do the dirty job.

      The Credo of the CHICKENHAWK is: My ONLY regret is that my neighbor/friend/brother have but only one life to give for MY/his/our Great Country!

      May 7, 2014 at 6:42 pm |
      • Salero21

        Ten years ago they were chanting: "No blood for Oil.", forty-five years ago their fathers and grandfathers were chanting "Hell no we won't go". And they re-elected Nixon 'cause he promised them to abolish the Draft.

        Now they are all so Hawks! And want to send SEOSEC's to battles and wars there and everywhere.

        May 7, 2014 at 7:06 pm |
      • Salero21

        The Credo of the CHICKENHAWK is: My ONLY regret is that my neighbor/friend/brother have but only one life to give for MY/his/our Great Country! Sometime it takes even a worst form, like: My ONLY regret is that my Father/Grandfather/uncle had only one life to give for MY Great Country. Emphasis made on MY with all intent!

        May 7, 2014 at 7:13 pm |
  19. Lee

    Nice to see articles condemning this kidnapping but who's taking the lead on freeing the 200+ that have been kidnapped???

    Would be nice to see one of you champion the cause for freedom.

    May 7, 2014 at 4:32 pm |
    • kenmargo

      You can champion freedom all you want. Bottom line, get a gun, (they're easy to get here) fly your azz over there and shoot away. You're not that upset if you're here. I'm here, have zero interest, so I'm bloggin in the safety of my office.

      May 7, 2014 at 4:38 pm |
      • Salero21

        Very well said!!!

        May 7, 2014 at 6:54 pm |
  20. mimedicalmj

    Apparently if you know all religions are MYTH and based on the same thing, you are not allowed to post here. Typical. Religious people are intolerant and only interested in hearing views that are in agreement with what they already think. What a shame it is religious people have to be so close minded. They will believe in the insanity and fantasy their religion of choice tells them to believe in, and will believe in virgin births, talking snakes, some dude living in a big fish for three days, etc etc but they will not even consider anything else. I feel sorry for religious people.

    May 7, 2014 at 4:16 pm |
    • kenmargo

      Don't waste your time feeling sorry for them. Just ignore them. You live in reality, continue to do so.

      May 7, 2014 at 4:23 pm |
    • christopherandrus

      FYI you have a set of un-provable beliefs that make you as religious as anyone else. These include your belief that all other religions are wrong, your beliefs about right and wrong, and your beliefs about the nature of ultimate reality. I strongly suspect that you are a Secular Humanist, which was admitted to be a de facto religion by many of the early prominent advocates of this philosophy/religion in Humanist Manifesto I. (Look it up on the AmericanHumanist.org.)

      It is arrogance and prejudicial bigotry to pronounce all religions as non-sense. And there are huge differences in what religions teach and do. Do yourself a favor and do a little research. Stop arrogantly assuming that you are smarter and more "enlightened" than openly religious people.

      May 7, 2014 at 6:42 pm |
      • kenmargo

        Sorry Chris, When you don't believe in something, thinking it's ridiculous tends to go hand in hand. If your beliefs are as stong as you indicate. Why would words from a stranger bother you? If Jesus can deal with being nailed to a cross, words shouldn't matter. The only problem I have with religion is politicians writing laws based on it. (Anti-abortion laws being one)

        May 7, 2014 at 7:15 pm |
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