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June 28th, 2014
08:12 AM ET

The Belief Blog guide to Ramadan

(CNN) - For 1.6 billion people, the holiest month of the year began this past Saturday.

The exact starting date sometimes depends on the locale, but most Muslims across the globe will be fasting, praying and abstaining from sex and smoking during daylight hours. Many call it a time of spiritual purity and rededication to God.

Here's everything you need to know about the observance.

What is Ramadan?

Ramadan is the name of the ninth month in the Hijri, or Islamic calendar. The word derives from the Arabic ramida or ar-ramad meaning a fierce, burning heat.

How important is it?

Ramadan is the most sacred month in the Muslim year, commemorating the revelation of the Holy Quran - the sacred religious text of Islam - by the angel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammed, according to Islamic tradition.

What does it involve?

The main obligation of the festival is the Sawm, or fast. Believers are expected to refrain from eating and drinking from dawn (fajr) until dusk (maghrib) for the entire month, a discipline that is thought to burn away all sins (hence the origin of the word 'ramadan'). The Sawm is considered one of the five "pillars," or foundations of Islam, the others being the Shahadah (profession of faith), Salat (praying five times daily), Zakat (charity) and Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca).

When does the festival start?

Ramadan begins with the sighting of the new moon. Because it is calculated according to a lunar rather than a fixed calendar, its precise dates change from year to year, and it can begin at different times in different parts of the world. According to the Fiqh Council of North America, Ramadan started this year on June 28 and will end July 28.

Is there more to Ramadan than fasting?

Yes. As well as eating and drinking, the faithful are expected to abstain from smoking and sexual relations between dawn and dusk, and to abjure lies, slander, greed, covetousness, giving false oath and denouncing someone behind their back (all of these are prohibited throughout the year by Islam. To commit them during Ramadan, however, is considered particularly sinful). Muslims are also expected to recite a special 'night prayer', the taraweeh, in addition to the five daily prayers.

Is every Muslim expected to fast?

No. Young children - before the onset of puberty - are exempted, as are those with an illness or medical condition that would be exacerbated by fasting. If the medical condition is only temporary, the sufferer is required to make up for the days missed once they have recovered. If the condition is permanent, the spiritual benefits of fasting can be obtained by feeding a needy person for a month.

What happens if you break the fast?

If a believer intentionally breaks the fast, or performs any other prohibited activity, they become subject to a penalty, or kaffara (literally, atonement). This can take the form of an extra 60 days of fasting at the end of Ramadan, feeding 60 people in need, or - not quite so easy in the modern world - freeing a slave.

And what happens at the end of Ramadan?

Ramadan officially ends on the first day of the month of Shawwal. This heralds a three-day celebration called Eid al-Fitr, or the "Festival of Breaking Fast", a joyous occasion during which believers attend mosques, give gifts, visit friends and family and decorate their homes.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. Reality

    More on the inanity of Islam:

    As the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

    The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

    ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

    and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

    and more recently

    1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

    1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

    2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

    3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

    4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

    5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

    6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

    7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

    8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

    9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

    10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

    11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

    12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

    13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

    14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

    15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

    16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

    17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

    18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

    19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

    20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

    21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

    22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

    23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "

    o 24) Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:18am EDT
    o
    BAGHDAD (Reuters) – A suicide bomber detonated an explosive-packed car outside a Shi'ite Muslim office in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 26 people and wounding more than 190 in an attack bearing the hallmarks of Iraq's al Qaeda affiliate.

    The bombing on a Shi'ite religious office comes at a sensitive time, with the country's fractious Shi'ite, Sunni and Kurdish blocs locked in a crisis that threatens to unravel their power-sharing deal and spill into sectarian tensions."

    25) BURGAS, Bulgaria | Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:27am EDT

    (Reuters) – A suicide bomber carried out an attack that killed seven people in a bus transporting Israeli tourists in Bulgaria, the interior minister said on Thursday, and Israel said Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants were to blame.

    26 ) September 12, 2012
    U.S. AMBASSADOR KILLED
    Envoy to Libya dies in rocket blast

    27) Boston Marathon horror – April 2013, four dead, hundreds injured and maimed for life. A
    Continued below:

    July 12, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
    • Mohammed

      Add the over 40 Christian Children who got locked up in a school and burned alive in Nigeria. The responsible muslim group, Boko Haram, is not a terrorist group according to Obama.

      July 12, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Furkha

      Why don't you add six million Jews killed by Christian Nazis to that list???

      While you are at it, also include millions killed by Christians during world wars...

      July 12, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
    • Reality

      o WHERE WAS YOUR GOD(S) WHEN THE FOLLOWING TOOK PLACE:

      The Twenty (or so) Worst Things GOD'S CREATURES Have Done to Each Other:

      M. White, http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)

      The Muslim Conquest of India

      "The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      Rank …..Death Toll ..Cause …..Century……..(Religions/Groups involved)*

      1. 63 million Second World War 20C (Christians et al and Communists/atheists vs. Christians et al, Nazi-Pagan and "Shintoists")

      2. 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C (Communism)

      3. 40 million Genghis Khan 13C (Shamanism or Tengriism)

      4. 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C (Anglican)

      5. 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C (Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Chinese folk religion)

      6. 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C ( Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion vs. a form of Christianity)

      7. 20 million Joseph Stalin 20C (Communism)

      8. 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C (Islam)

      9. 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C

      10. 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C (Christianity)

      11. 15 million First World War 20C (Christians vs. Christians)

      12. 15 million Conquest of the Americas 15C-19C (Christians vs. Pagans)

      13. 13 million Muslim Conquest of India 11C-18C

      14. 10 million An Lushan Revolt 8C

      15. 10 million Xin Dynasty 1C

      16. 9 million Russian Civil War 20C (Christians vs Communists)

      17. 8 million Fall of Rome 5C (Pagans vs. Christians)

      18. 8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C (Christians)

      19. 7½ million Thirty Years War 17C (Christians vs Christians)

      20. 7½ million Fall of the Yuan Dynasty 14C

      July 12, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
  2. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    America also has issues with hating itself... what's your point?

    July 12, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      hmm... root post got deleted, now my post looks kinda random

      July 12, 2013 at 2:17 pm |
  3. lionlylamb2013

    That's a plaguing anthology of 'viralized' summation's yielding & troubling to one's heart felt designations of servile 'tenasciousness'

    July 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • Ahab the Arab

      you have slept with too many lambs

      July 12, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
    • St. Barry, Patron Saint of Condiment Application Technicians

      I admire your ability to pack so much nauseating nonsense in so few words. Your buffoonery is most efficient.

      July 12, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Lionly,
      The motorcycle passport referendum only spars with iced ginger coughs, but trailers buy tapestries with cat satire and nose dolphin rubbish.

      July 12, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Sanctimonious poppies are puppy loves in "opiation's" garnishments. The breadth a solitudes bewails prudence while toasty seeds of the opiated freedoms would send "disheartened" souls to the medical infirmaries give rises to more potent dispensations of medical blunders leaving the deadening fields awash with doctor do-little raises.

      July 12, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Filthy Hind I love to Mithrism lick and talk Islam bunk

      Thanks for proving Lionly, that all your trash is straight from a random word generator.

      July 12, 2013 at 3:31 pm |
  4. Ummah

    Ramadan, when muslims are reminded how much they love to worship Satan as the arab god allah.

    July 12, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      At least Satan has got style. Jesus has been rockin' the robe, beard look for 2,000 years.

      July 12, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
    • Ahab the Arab

      FOOD IS GOOD..SATAN LOVE GOOD FOOD AND DRINK

      July 12, 2013 at 2:16 pm |
  5. Joe800

    ...was there a similar article / guide to Easter ?.. what about Passover?...interesting if not

    July 12, 2013 at 1:37 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Yes, those articles were on the Belief Blog. Of course, they weren't completely similar, because Easter doesn't demand fasting from sunup to sundown, but you know, yeah, they were.

      Why?

      July 12, 2013 at 1:40 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      In fact, Easter demands the constant consumption of egg-shaped chocolate.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:41 pm |
    • Just the Facts Ma'am...

      Easter is nothing more than a re-hash of old pagan rituals celebrating fertility. Anyone who think's egg's and bunnies are symbols of Christ instead of the randy humpers they are is delusional.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      Think's? Egg's? C'mon, you must realize your mistakes?

      July 12, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      A lot of people don't realize their mistakes--even after they're pointed out to them.

      July 12, 2013 at 2:06 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Seven Day Adventists don't eat real-meat but they do eat a soy-based meat substitute. They also (I think) fast from Friday sundown till Saturday sundown and do not drive anywhere or use any manmade devices during these 24 hours,,,

      July 12, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • St. Barry, Patron Saint of Condiment Application Technicians

      I always thought it was a really bad idea to teach little children that the brown things bunnies leave behind are chocolate.

      July 12, 2013 at 2:33 pm |
  6. tony

    All US politicians should have to state publicly which branch/denomination of their particular religion they support, and then explain why they don't support the other branches/denominations and what they disagree with in each. We'd then rapidly return to a democracy, without religious influences

    Have at least a basic science degree as a requirement to run for office would be another boon.

    July 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm |
    • Henryo

      Excellent point tony!

      July 12, 2013 at 1:14 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      tony

      When you put restrictive limits on who can run in a democracy, you no longer have a democracy.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:16 pm |
    • Johnny

      I don't think he was saying to put a limit on who can run, only that if you decide to run you have to put all of your crazy beliefs on the table. As it stands now though, if you have crazy beliefs whoever you are running against will probably put them on the table for you anyway.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • Lycidas

      @tony- "All US politicians should have to state publicly which branch/denomination of their particular religion they support,"

      No they shouldn't.

      "and then explain why they don't support the other branches/denominations and what they disagree with in each."

      No they shouldn't. As long as they are not making obvious judgement call based on their faith, they have the right to keep personal information like faith to themselves.

      "We'd then rapidly return to a democracy, without religious influences"

      We have NEVER been a democracy.

      "Have at least a basic science degree as a requirement to run for office would be another boon."

      You may vote for whomever you wish for, don't force us to cut back on possible candidates.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:28 pm |
  7. bostontola

    It sure seems like the big 2 religions fear knowledgeable and educated people.

    Many Christians want to stop evolution teaching or add nonsense to science classes.
    Muslims burn a school in Nigeria with children in it.
    In Pakistan, they blow up a school.
    In Afganistan, water was poisoned at a school and 150 students were hurt.

    Both religions were originally leaders in education. So many of the pioneering scientists were Christian leaders. The Muslims were world leaders in science, art, and education a thousand years ago. Once the human knowledge base reached the point where facts were in conflict with their dogma, things changed.

    July 12, 2013 at 12:32 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Sadly true, but it is not only religion

      Try and discuss Democracy with someone on the right.

      Education is encouraged if it reinforces the paradigm, but discouraged if it challenges it.

      In actual education resides the seeds of revolution.

      This world is not just, yet those who do well insist it is, and educate the weaker to be subservient to it.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:36 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      Whoa! What about left wing democracy? I'm gonna take your money and give it to a bunch of lazy scroungers and you have no say in the matter.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:41 pm |
    • Truth

      Sounds to me like the Muslims are the ones killing innocent people by your account...

      July 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm |
    • bostontola

      I know a lot of conservatives (old school) that are not very religious and they are strong education supporters. The new religious right is wacky.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:46 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      bostontola

      True

      July 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm |
  8. I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

    I like beer and bacon on a hot summer day. My personal savior, J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, says it's A-OK.

    July 12, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Ok

      The beers gets you Mormon hell, the bacon gets you Jewish hell and the J. R. "Bob" Dobbs reference gets you damned to a life of Daytime TV in a trailer park without AC

      July 12, 2013 at 12:28 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      I can live with that.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:30 pm |
  9. lionlylamb2013

    My 'opinions' regarding spiritual religions are leveraged upon the baseline scriptures of the KJVB. Such 'stories' regarding the old-times within our histories of religious understandings are indeed plagued and remitted many controversial imaginings' garnishments that are hindrances yet for good reasons. Within the Old Testament, God beset among a handful of Judaists,10 commandments for the Judaic masses to adhere to.

    We who are today's Gentiles have our percentage faithful who aspire toward understandings of Judaism's scriptures. As a Gentile myself, I view my relationships with a spiritualized God being a tempered philosophy. Upon my one hand, I do so Love God's worthwhile natures but on my other hand, I detest God's past desires toward him interfering with our humanism's past ways. Our futures are lain within the passages of passing away timeliness endeavors. Is God truly in charge of our global continuations countrified assemblages?

    July 12, 2013 at 11:49 am |
    • .

      LL is the belief blog pseudo intellect, don't bother reading, just laugh and move on.

      A pseudo intellect is someone who acts pretentiously and wishes to impress, rather than modestly trying to communicate effectively uses rhetoric over content.

      July 12, 2013 at 11:54 am |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Hi jolting dot,

      Here, let me help you with your wise saying,,, You wrote, "A pseudo intellect is someone who acts pretentiously and wishes to impress, rather than modestly trying to communicate effectively uses rhetoric over content."

      You forgot and & in your wordage usages,,,

      So then, A pseudo intellect is someone who acts pretentiously and wishes to impress, rather than modestly trying to communicate effectively "&" uses rhetoric over content.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:12 pm |
    • BIG SHIZ

      I like the fact you're trying to spread knowledge. But I don't think that old stuff (like the dead sea scrolls) is that important. You know like me there's truth and lies in all religion. You also know like me the link to connecting with god is in one self and people in all religions have tried to hide that from us. My point is we need to be connected with our self's to be connected with god. What we don't need is lie's mixed with the truth like in religion.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
    • Ummmmm

      "So then, A pseudo intellect is someone who acts pretentiously and wishes to impress, rather than modestly trying to communicate effectively "&" uses rhetoric over content."

      Actually you're wrong.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      A goodly afternoon to you, BIG SHIZ,

      Thank you for your honest posting rely Big Shiz! Seldom do people here acknowledge my wordage usages. My insistent desires to roll my words together in ways others find disparaging; is my imperfections against writing simplistically for the masses' sakes. I try on occasions to downplay my words so that the common folk are able to find a sensation of understanding and not be left as a 'hanging chad' so to write.

      "May peaceful pleasantry be granted you and all who; in searching other's words do find a happiness in knowing what others are fixated upon."

      July 12, 2013 at 12:57 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Sorry BIG, I meant to write, "Thank you for your honest posting relpy Big Shiz! and not; Thank you for your honest posting rely Big Shiz!"

      (My eyes are failing me and my desires to proof read my words are ever faulty,,,,

      July 12, 2013 at 12:59 pm |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Sorry BIG, I meant to write, "Thank you for your honest posting (reply) Big Shiz! and not; Thank you for your honest posting rely Big Shiz!"

      (My eyes are failing me and my desires to proof read my words are ever faulty,,,,

      July 12, 2013 at 1:01 pm |
  10. bostontola

    Christians,
    Are you concerned that you will be subjected to Islamic Jahannam (hell) because you aren't following the laws of Ramadan and Islam? Are you concerned that you will be subjected to Norse Hel for not following their laws? Same question for hundreds of other religions. Probably not. Most likely you don't give it thought, it's an absurd notion. That's how people of those other religions feel about your Christian laws and afterlife. That's how atheists feel about all of them, including yours.

    This leads to Pascal's wager. It doesn't apply only to atheists. If you pick the wrong religion, you still burn (or whatever). You need to follow all religions' laws to be covered in the wager.

    July 12, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • JimK57

      It also possible to believe in an afterlife but not believe in hell.

      July 12, 2013 at 11:48 am |
    • William Demuth

      Well, sort of.

      It's a bit more complex

      Some religions you might want to discount all together bases on probability

      Some religions are more viable, so you might adhere more to them

      Of those that are viable, you might want check for weak spots, as some only offer suggestions rather than commandments.

      As such, I myself follow basic Bacchus and Rastafarian principles at all times

      July 12, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • William Demuth

      1 Don't Bogart the Blunt
      2 Don't leave a lady hanging for want of her fair share
      3 Keep the beverages frosty, and your shorts clean
      4 Don't beat the dog, your lover or your kids
      5 Buy good speakers, they can spruce up a crummy car

      July 12, 2013 at 11:57 am |
    • bostontola

      William,
      Of course the beauty of Pascal's Wager is it doesn't matter what the probabilities are since the penalty/reward are infinite while the cost is finite. You're either all in or you lose. Even the most ridiculous religion, invented yesterday, would have to be followed.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • JimK57

      William Demuth
      I thought everyone followed those commandments.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Let your cell mate sleep, so he will do the same
      What goes around will be back around, so be gone before it gets back.
      Keep an open mind, she will look better after a few more drinks

      July 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
    • bostontola

      I should say, you need to follow any religion with an eternal afterlife with a permanent good side and penalty side.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      William Demuth

      With regards to The Fourth Commandment, what if one's lover is a masochist?

      July 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Well

      So if you beat them, you must give the dog extra treats

      Justice is a balancing scale

      July 12, 2013 at 12:24 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that

      Duly noted.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:25 pm |
  11. Reality

    Putting a safe and peaceful end to all of this Muslim inanity:

    From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi--–

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    "1. Belief in Allah"

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

    "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

    "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

    Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

    "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings
    be upon him) alone."

    Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

    Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

    Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

    Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

    من الدراسات من أرمسترونغ، رشدي، هيرسي علي، ريتشاردسون والبيهقي --–

    في خمس خطوات لأبطل تأثير 1400 سنة من الأساطير الإسلامية:

    (-خطوات اتخاذ أقل من دقيقتين لإنهاء-ببساطة مدهشة، دقيقتين لإحلال السلام والعقلانية إلى أكثر من مليار فقدت النفوس لا تقدر بثمن!)

    هل أنت مستعد؟

    استخدام "الفروع الإسلامية 77 من" الإيمان "مجموعة الإمام البيهقي المترجمة كنقطة انطلاق. في ذلك، وهو ما يفسر الفضائل الأساسية التي تعكس صحيح" الإيمان "(إيمان) من خلال الآيات القرآنية ذات الصلة، وأحاديث نبوية." أي ملخص لطيفة من المعتقدات القرآن والإسلامية.

    الخمسة الأولى من الفروع 77:

    "1. الإيمان بالله"

    كما يعرف أيضا باسم الله، الرب، زيوس، الرب، الطبيعة الأم، وما إلى ذلك يجب أن تضاف إلى الخلايا العصبية التطهير الذاتي الخاص.

    "2. إلى الاعتقاد بأن كل شيء غيرها مما كان الله غير موجود. بعد ذلك، الله سبحانه وتعالى خلق هذه الأشياء، وبعد ذلك جاءوا إلى حيز الوجود."

    التطور والانفجار الكبير أو "غب Gnab" (عند بدء الكون لإعادة تدوير) هي أكثر ترجيحا وينبغي أن تدرج في "المندرجة" في سبيل الله إذا كنت لا تزال تشكل "الخلق".

    "3. إلى الاعتقاد في وجود الملائكة."

    A بندا رئيسيا لتطهير الخلايا العصبية. الملائكة / دي VILS هي الإبداعات الأسطورية من الحضارات القديمة، على سبيل المثال HITT خائبي، لشرح / تعريف الأحداث الطبيعية، والاتصالات مع آلهتهم، والطيور الكبيرة، والرياح المفاجئة، وحماة خلال الليالي المظلمة، وما إلى ذلك لا "جميلة / قبيحة ثينجيس افسح المجال ل" بزيارة أي وقت مضى أو تحدثت إلى محمد، يسوع، مريم أو يوسف أو جو سميث. اليوم سوف نصنف الملائكة كما الجنيات و "أجراس العبث". تصنف الشياطين الحديثة والشياطين من مجنون.

    "4. إلى الاعتقاد بأن جميع الكتب السماوية التي تم إرسالها إلى الأنبياء مختلفة صحيحا. ومع ذلك، وبصرف النظر عن القرآن، كل الكتب الأخرى ليست صالحة بعد الآن."

    ومن البنود الرئيسية في حذفها. لا يوجد كتب في ولاية روح السماء (إذا كان هناك واحد) فقط حيث لم تعد هناك ملائكة لكتابة / نشر / توزيعها. القرآن، OT، NT وما هي ببساطة الكتب التي كتبت من قبل البشر للبشر.

    اخترعت الأنبياء من قبل الكتبة القديمة عادة للحفاظ على الجماهير غير المتعلمة في الخط. اليوم ونحن ندعو لهم فرز الأصوات للتناغم.

    النبوءات كما invali مؤرخة من قبل الطبيعية / الله / الله الهدايا من الإرادة الحرة والمستقبل.

    "5. إلى الاعتقاد بأن جميع الأنبياء صحيحا. ومع ذلك، ونحن مأمورون اتباع النبي محمد (عليه الصلاة والسلام
    صلى الله عليه وسلم) وحده ".

    قضى محمد ثلاثين يوما "الصيام" (أسطورة رمضان) في كهف الساخن قبل أول اتصال له مع الله الملقب الخ الله عبر "ممتزوجات افسح المجال ل جميلة". الحس السليم يتطلب حذف الخلايا العصبية من # 5. # 5 هو أيضا المصدر الرئيسي للالاسلامي VI-olence أي تحول محمد "سريع، يحركها الجوع" hallu-cinations إلى واقع فظيع لغير المؤمنين.

    المشي هذه خمس خطوات، ونحن نضمن الانتعاش الكامل من الطرق الإسلامية الخاصة بك!!

    للأسف، لا توجد العديد من المعلقين مسلم / القراء على هذا بلوق لذلك "مدة دقيقتين" العلاج هو عدم الحصول على لأولئك الذين في حاجة إليها. إذا كان لديك صديق مسلم، ترسل له نسخة وتساعد في إنقاذ العالم.

    تتوفر خطوات مماثلة في طلبك للحصول على deprogramming الأساطير المسيحية واليهودية والبوذية والهندوسية والوثنية ..

    July 12, 2013 at 10:29 am |
    • Henryo

      @ Reality...what makes you such a miserable person that you forbid anyone their own personal beliefs?

      You haunt and troll these belief blogs from sun-up to sun-down with your constant nonsensical prattle.

      Why don't you worry more about yourself and your own life and let people believe what they want. Your judgement and criticism only show how small you are inside.

      July 12, 2013 at 11:54 am |
    • lionlylamb2013

      To kind hearted Henryo who wrote on Friday, July 12, 2013 at 11:54 am stating, "Why don't you worry more about yourself and your own life and let people believe what they want. Your judgement and criticism only show how small you are inside."

      Sired Henry,

      It's judgment not judgement. Onwards,,,

      We Oh Henry are ever critical folks whenever we want to enlighten others and be enlightened ourselves. Reality is a long winded container of idiosyncrasies enamored with consistencies ever being his habitual way. We all are people who desire to be understood by others. It's in what our beliefs are founded upon that highlight our reasonability.

      Reality is and will ever be his own fortune of wordage usages as are all of us who dare posting here. I read on occasion Reality's comments. They are sometimes re-copied posts but are sometimes new writings. As one dares enlightenment of another's wordage usages, one becomes such word's judge and jury and executioner. So,,, kill the messages and leave the messenger alive and with hopes for them to be made malleable in their attempts for conscious awareness to take root.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:40 pm |
    • Henryo

      @ lionly...frist of all both spellings of Judgement are correct, depending on where you learned the English language. Don't correct someone unless you know everything there is to know about what you deem wrong.

      Second, my opinion of the poster named reality now extends to you. Thanks for pointing out your sad similarities.

      July 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm |
    • Reality

      As good students, you have read the reiterations of the "fems" (flaws, errors, muck and stench) of religion. Therefore the seeds have been planted in rich soil. Go therefore and preach the truth to all nations, reiterating as you go amongst the lost, bred, born and brainwashed souls of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as Rational Thinking makes its triumphant return all because of you!!!!

      July 12, 2013 at 2:21 pm |
  12. snowboarder

    the rituals of religion are kooky.

    July 12, 2013 at 10:18 am |
  13. lionlylamb2013

    With such a religion having a billion plus followers, I am somewhat dismayed yet gladdened as to this religion not making converts of the rest of us. For anyone to be a server of one's god, one should firstly know of their god's addendums. Only the devoutly devoted individual might find a personal solace with their being's God. The others of religious devotionals who religiously put themselves within the societal lights are doing so due their desires to be socially acknowledged thus they are rewarded by socialism's considerations. Though the sullen minorities of many religions' devoted followers are of swaggered consolations in their devotionals, their majorities are not devotionally marked.

    With all of God's first born son(s) being an established view among our many religious constabularies, many of one-God religions are dead-set against each others' claims as to which religious convictions are truly the most righteous. To my sometimes frail views, I perceive every individual's body to contain one god and their family members. Our embodied generations of godliness seemingly does not show very much considerations to our current worldly affairs as was made mentioning of within many of our biblical scriptures passaged ways.

    Gotta go,,, I'm needed for a food run,,, see you all in a rest-bit

    July 12, 2013 at 10:11 am |
    • Candiano

      Lionly, it is the same God you worship. The. Same. One. It's also the fastest-growing religion in the world.

      July 12, 2013 at 11:00 am |
    • lionlylamb2013

      Sire Candiano,

      How does anyone know and foretell my views regarding the God of many so many sons who are themselves delegated to be as their godly father 'once was'? From what I have gathered from the KJVB, the Lord God did die around the time of Noah as is so written in Genesis 6:3,,, and also it is written that the way things are in our timid dimension so it is as well withing the heavens.

      July 12, 2013 at 11:21 am |
    • .

      LL is the belief blog pseudo intellect, just laugh at their posts and move on.

      July 12, 2013 at 11:25 am |
  14. Sam Hay

    to realbuckyball...you no why you are completely wrong in all your claims..the moon in Islam is used only to tell time bc time is very important in islam for prayer to Allah..and you know why you are also wrong..you state it is not abrahimic religion..then why in each muslim prayer..in all 5 prayers they perform..every day that each muslim must praise Abrahim in his prayer??? Show me in the Quran since you have proof where it talks about Moon God Sin and three divine daughters???? dont talk about ignorance buddy..you make me laugh

    July 12, 2013 at 10:10 am |
    • Colin

      Does it really matter what its roots are? It is every bit as ludicrous as Christianity and Judaism. Think about it. Islam, like its parent faith(s), claims that the Earth was created in about a week a few thousand years ago. It is everybit as silly, outdated and wrong as the Tanakh and New Testament.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:14 am |
      • FA

        Islam also claims that angels ascend to God in one day the measure of which is 50000 years by Human reckoning. In other verses Quran claims a diiferent measurement of time. Below are two examples. When the biblical verse states that God created the earth in 6 days, one must consider relativity.

        He will say: "What number of years did ye stay on earth?" They will answer: 'We have spent there a day, or part of a day; but ask those who [are able to] count [time]..." He will say: "You stayed not but a little,- if you had only known! Did you, then, think that We created you in mere idle play, and that you would not have to return to Us?." – (Quran 23:112-115)

        “The angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years.” [Quran 70:47].

        All in all just like in major sciences only one answer is universal. The meaning of Islam is to submit to the Creator. Christianity, Judaism, some forms of Hinduism all fit this definition. Any person that claims that there is no creator has to be able to explain creation, ie the Big Bang.

        July 29, 2013 at 12:16 pm |
        • peaceman4peace

          Allah (The CREATOR) Says in Quran:
          “And you [i.e.,mankind] have not been given of knowledge except a little." (15:85)

          Being human being we have a limited knowledge, we experiences impossibilities due to of our limited vision, thinking and approach but there is nothing limited or impossible for the CREATOR.
          Whether people believe in Quran or not But The Almighty says:
          And you will surely know [the truth of] its information after a
          time." Al-Quran(38:88)

          Also says:
          This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for
          those conscious of Allah(The Creator). (Al-Quran 2:2)

          sorry to say as you have mentioned some verses from the Quran to fillup your comment but just ignored the other.

          And let me clear to you one thing that Muslim is a one who submit his/her will to the CREATOR. The word ISLAM is derived from the word slm which means peace. And not all religion fits in one definition that you just mentioned. Submitting will means completely obeying and following the commands of our CREATOR as it is mentioned in Quran:

          “They disbelieve who say: Allah (God)
          is one of three, for there is no god
          except One God. If they desist not
          from their word (of blasphemy),
          verily, a grievous chastisement will
          befall the disbelievers among them.
          (5: 73)

          So all religion not fits the same definition as some of them associates partner with HIM, which is a major sin. They differed about the essence of the Creator, how to worship Him and the description of the life after death. For example, Hindus believe in reincarnation and that after death one’s soul would then go into a human body or an animal, depending on whether one did good or bad in his life, and that this process would continue without end until the soul reaches perfection and unites into one with its Creator. People of other religions like Jews, Christians and Muslims also believe in life after death, but not in reincarnation like the Hindus. All three – Jews, Christians and Muslims -however have different views about what happens to the soul after one’s death. So there is a huge difference in submitting will to the creator in its true essence.
          For further information you can also visit my website http://www.inthequestoftruth.webs.com.

          July 30, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Your answers are pathetic.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:16 am |
    • realbuckyball

      THE ROOTS are not Abrahamic, as they claim, as ANY archaeologist knows. It matters not what they *say* they do today. The origins are from the "pagan" god "Sin".

      July 12, 2013 at 10:19 am |
    • realbuckyball

      "Al-Ilah" was the crescent moon phase of the moon, in ancient Arabia.
      Obviously YOU know nothing about the Ancient Near East.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:21 am |
    • realbuckyball

      "Al-Ilah" was the crescent moon phase of the moon, in ancient Arabia.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:22 am |
    • realbuckyball

      "Al-Ilah" was the crescent moon phase of the moon.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:22 am |
    • houstonchica77057

      Be careful – we do not praise Abraham – we ask for blessings on Muhammad PBUH in the way that he has given blessings to Abraham. I just wanted to correct you so that you do not unintentionally commit shirk by saying that you praise Abraham. Allah is the only one to be praised.

      Howeer, your basic premise is correct that Abraham is a vital part of Islam.

      July 12, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Of course the Qur'an does not talk about the god Sin. Don't be so infantile. Archaeologists KNOW and have proven that Allah and Sin are the same god, and they both, in mythology have the same 3 divine daughters. Your ignorance of mythology, ancient History, archaeology, and the ancient Near East is your problem, not mine. Yahweh originated in the Sumerian pantheon as the 40th son of El Elyon. The Sin god was the Arabian moon-god which is EXACTLY where the humans who cooked up Islam got him. Same 3 daughters. When people started questioning this, the MEN who cooked up the Qur"an said, "oh the devil must have made him put that there". (The Satanic Verses). No scholar questions that they were there originally. Even Mohammed admitted (supposedly), he did it by "mistake". The crescent moon phase of the moon god, Sin. There was no Abraham. Historians and archaeologists have proven he was a myth, just as Isaac, and Jacob and Moses were. The crescent moon is still EVERYWHERE in Islamic decoration.

      July 12, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
  15. Sam Hay

    There are many corrections that need to be addressed within the video...first of all..all his claims are assumptions and speculations..he has no proof to his claims..all his sentence start with IF. Secondly he claims that when the muslims entered and conquered north africa and into spain and persia that there was nothing built reflecting Islam and Mohammed...if you go visit those regions you will see MOSQUES built all over those areas with Allah and the name Mohammed as his prophet written ever where..and the modern day government will approve that these existed since 630AD...thirdly since the speaker in the video made false claims and statements..then the rest of his speech looses credibility.

    July 12, 2013 at 10:05 am |
    • realbuckyball

      Governments are not in the business of either knowing about or "approving" the dating of ancient buildings, AND there is no reason to believe the entire structure was built at the same time. Try harder.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:26 am |
  16. William Demuth

    An interesting question occurred to me that I wanted to share with the group.

    What does each belief group let their children or even themselves be exposed to?

    As an Atheist, I let my children read as they see fit, but I limit their private exposure to religious people, particularly keeping him away from groups with extreme views. Moonies, Mormons or Jehovah's show up at my door, and frankly they wish they hadn't!!!!

    I rarely attend death related services in any religion because I hate them, but will go to one of any faith when I do.

    So how do you all address these types of issues?

    Do you let your children read texts from religions other than your own?
    Do you attend wedding funerals and rites of passage from other faiths?
    Do you expect your families to "keep within the faith" in marriage and dating?

    July 12, 2013 at 9:45 am |
    • kashif

      I'm muslim, there is a bible in my house. Islam takes the point of view that your relatioinship with god is a personal one, but without full knowledge of gods works how can you acomplish that? (Belief in all the books of god is a requirment of faith)

      July 12, 2013 at 9:51 am |
    • William Demuth

      So Kashiff, would you go to Jewish wedding?

      Can you imagine your sister marrying a Buddist.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:02 am |
    • Matt

      @ kashif

      So in others words you believe a book contains knowledge of a god even though you have no evidence of this and ALL evidence points to that it doesn't at all contain the slightest piece of evidence...

      sorry, doesn't sound rational..

      Can you see now why faith is not a good thing...eg. believing in something without good evidence? because essentially everything can be justified with faith...anything can be believed with faith.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:10 am |
    • JimK57

      I have no children but I was raised in a christian home and I am agnotstic-theist. My brother is atheist and married a christian. They are allowing their childern to be exposed to all faiths and beliefs. They had a christian wedding.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:10 am |
    • Sam Hay

      If the Prophet Mohammed did not exist as you claim..then how did the revelations..the words of Allah form the lines in the Quran that has been preserved and the same lines exist till today. It is clear that a human did not create these lines..and that a prophet instead has passed on the words of God..why we believe in that because no human during these days was capable of stating the lines in the Quran..whyyy because there are many lines in the Quran that state scientific facts that modern day scientist have just discovered and prooved. For example if Mohammed did not exist how did the verses from the Quran come to existence..how did a normal human with no scientific technology in 630 AD state lines from the Quran that reflects modern scientific claims..go to you tube and type the miracles and the science found in the QURAN..there are mind blowing facts mentioned in the Quran that scientist just discovered within the past 50 years..so how if there was no revelations ..no prophet Mohammed ..then how the people of that time have verses and theories that today our scientist just discovered..it prooves that there is a God and that he passed info and messages to a prophet to pass on to the people..and the reason I believe those verses are correctt is bc scientist are agreeing with the lines in the quran that existed 1400 years ago. Videos on youtube will explain it better...type scientific facts exist in the Quran..see the proof of the Quran and the prophet Mohammed yourself

      July 12, 2013 at 10:35 am |
    • William Demuth

      Sam Hay

      Get a grip dude. You can also use YouTube to get the truth about aliens, Bigfoot, the Lochness monster and democracy.

      And as most of us know, thay are all fabrications, misinterpretations and blatant falsehoods.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:39 am |
    • realbuckyball

      Humans cooked them up. That's how they got into the Qu'ran.
      Every word of it.
      http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allahs-daughters.htm

      July 12, 2013 at 10:40 am |
    • realbuckyball

      http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-Ask-a-Muslim-split-from-introductions?page=25

      July 12, 2013 at 10:40 am |
    • realbuckyball

      The old nonsense that the Qur'an contains anything that was not generally known in the ancient Near East has been thoroughly debunked, time and again.
      http://www.answering-islam.org/Andy/fallacies.html

      July 12, 2013 at 11:12 am |
    • realbuckyball

      http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/index.htm

      July 12, 2013 at 11:12 am |
    • kashif

      I've gone to several barmitsvahs if that counts, I'll probably go to my friends' weddings when they get themselves hitched.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:06 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Sam Hay,

      @buckyball is correct. If you do not investigate those "G-o-l-l-l-l-y!" claims of "scientific truths" in the Quran, you are not being honest and authentic.

      Actually, "Answering Islam" is an evangelical Christian site, but we try to glean factual information wherever we can find it. Islam has their own set of refutations of Christianity; and there are some facts there too.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      p.s. We can only hope that these superst'itious, fantasy beliefs will one day knock each other out; and we can get down to the job of tackling the world's problems in a realistic manner.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:47 pm |
    • houstonchica77057

      @Matt – what if there is proof in that the Qu'ran has been the same, word for word, for over 1500 yrs.. and in that text there are scientific facts that are only now being proven by modern scientists? How on earth would someone know of ALL of these scientific facts... not one or two, but many I assure you, 1500 yrs ago?

      July 12, 2013 at 3:34 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      What "facts" are you talking about ?
      Put up, or shut up.
      There is NOTHING in the Qur'an that was not known in Arabic culture in general at the time.

      July 12, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
  17. William Demuth

    Fascinating

    Perhaps next time we can review The Justice League Of America?

    I find reviewing the intricacies of Comic Books instrumental in keep all the Bull Cookies properly filed away for future historians

    I'm not sure, but I believe the Muslims are set to make a cameo in next months X-Men

    July 12, 2013 at 9:22 am |
  18. realbuckyball

    Islam is a moon-god cult. It is not, historically, really an "Abrahamic" religion. The founders of Islam,
    claim Yahweh, (as they did EVERY ancient god they encountered in their conquests), but in fact their god Allah was a development of the moon-god "Sin" who the Hebrews were repeatedly told told to STOP worshiping. The god SIn was ubiquitous in the ancient near East, especially in Arabia. Why do you think the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6bBeyaRjac

    July 12, 2013 at 9:07 am |
    • Sam Hay

      to realbuckyball........that is the most idiotic answer i ever heard in my life...moon god????? looooooool...not an Abrahmic religion...lloooooool...wow you have all your info wrong

      July 12, 2013 at 9:51 am |
    • realbuckyball

      And Sam, obviously you know NOTHING about history, and the development of religion in the Near East.
      You just proved it.

      July 12, 2013 at 9:54 am |
    • realbuckyball

      BTW, say "your info is wrong" is no refutation. I have all the facts to back up the claim.
      You have none.
      Why do you think the "Satanic Verses" was such a huge deal ? Because the moon-god Sin had the SAME three divine daughters that the original Qu'ran said Allah had.
      Don't be such an ignoramus.

      July 12, 2013 at 9:56 am |
    • Colin

      Realbuckyball. I just watched the whole thing. Thanks for posting it.

      July 12, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • Johnny

      Actually Sam, he is correct.

      July 12, 2013 at 1:18 pm |
    • Furkha

      This is one of the most stupid video I have ever seen.

      Imagine someone writing a book on "Did Einstein exist" and then trying to justifying from historic records that infect he did not existed and the entire pollution of the world just had a dream about him....

      WOW... imagine an idiot writing a book on "Did Darwin exist"...

      July 12, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
    • Johnny

      I imagine that Mohammed existed, it is Allah that doesn't exist. Therefore Mohammed made up everything that Allah supposedly said.

      July 12, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
    • Furkha

      Johnny, do you know the word Allah is just an Arabic translation of word GOD? Even Arabic speaking Christians pray to Allah when they are referring to the word GOD.

      So when you say, "I do not think Allah exist", translated in English just means you don't think GOD exist.

      On the side note, do you know that Muhammad was illiterate, and never had any formal education?

      Think...

      July 12, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Johnny

      Yes, god does not exist. You don't have to know how to read to dictate a made up story to someone who writes it down.

      July 12, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Furkha,
      " do you know that Muhammad was illiterate, and never had any formal education?"

      So? Joseph Smith was illiterate too - that must mean that all of his Mormon fantasy stories are true, eh?

      Peter the apostle was illiterate... and Jesus never wrote a dang thing (don't know if he could read or not). They told lots of thrilling stories too.

      July 12, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • Twain

      The one adjective I just cannot apply to The Book of Mormon and the Bible is "thrilling.

      "Chloroform in print" is far more accurate.

      July 12, 2013 at 3:16 pm |
    • realbuckyball

      Furkha,
      Apart from calling it "stupid", we did notice that you had not refuted even ONE of the historical assertions this professional historian made. Why is that ? Is it because you can't ?

      You can't even prove there was a Mohamed to *be* illiterate. Many of the lines in the Qur'an were, (just like the Bible), directly copied from known lies of Arabic poetry at the time.

      There is independent proof of Einstein. There is not a shred of proof that ole Mo ever existed.
      Mohamed was a ti'tle, not a name.

      July 12, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
    • Furkha

      Good progress Johnny,

      Now think if that story contains historic facts that are described with complete accuracy. And no one around you knows those facts...Think...

      July 12, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Furkha,
      "And no one around you knows those facts"

      But there WERE people around who knew those things. Greek, Roman, Indian, and other foreign traders and travellers traipsed all over the place there and shared their knowledge and philosophies, etc.

      Read... Think... yourself. Then get over your "G-o-l-l-l-y G-e-e!" about that book.

      July 12, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
    • Furkha

      A Frayed Knot,

      Thank Stupid think.... all the future references in the book, how do they appear in it...

      July 12, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
    • Filthy Hind I love to Mithrism lick and talk Islam bunk

      Anyone can talk about general stuff, and say they meant something else. There are no exact future references, just like the Bible "prophesies". It's all junk.

      July 13, 2013 at 8:46 am |
  19. JimK57

    I agree, it was brief but informative.

    July 12, 2013 at 8:40 am |
  20. Canuck

    Great article – I did not know much about Ramadan and learned so much from this article alone.

    July 12, 2013 at 8:30 am |
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