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August 29th, 2014
04:47 PM ET
Italian paper: ISIS targeting Pope FrancisItalian newspaper Il Tempo reports that Pope Francis is a target ISIS has "in the crosshairs." CNN's John Allen reports.
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If Your Brother Dies, You Need to Bang His Wife
"Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother." (Mark 12:19)
but my brother was married to a fat woman, I would let her give me a BJ
Would you call it was God's will, if ISIS succeeded in Pope assassination? If so why would God want Pope be dead?
God kills in mysterious ways.
The way it works is if they like what happened it is "god's will" if they don't like it them "Satan did it" Great way to never take responsibility for anything
nato, 10,000 rapid deployment troops to Russia Ukraine to fend off Russia?
we better take fu.cking cover.
nice talking to all of ya!
When comes to protecting Pope's life, who can do the better job, bullets/bomb proof cabin or God?
"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."(Deuteronomy 23:1)
I thought that was a joke, but it's real! This is interesting as well:
Leviticus 22:24
You must not offer to the LORD an animal whose testicles are bruised, crushed, torn or cut. You must not do this in your own land
The hits just keep on coming...
A Woman's Punishment For Defending Her Husband = Cut Off Her Hand
"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)
Okay this one is insanely specific, which makes it that much more awesome. This probably NEVER happens... but if a faithful wife decided to defend her husband by grabbing a guy by his junk, anyone, would have God's blessing to cut her hand off.
How to Use:
Alright, so in the extremely rare case that you might witness something like this happening and you know everyone involved is a devout Christian, then politely recommend the woman's hand be cut off - just to save her (and them) from an eternity of Hellfire.
Is she ok if she just kicks him in the nuts?
Mark 13:7 ►
When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
Matthew
6-7, "And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places."
comply with, obey, observe, follow, keep to, hold to, conform to, adhere to, stick to, stand by, act in accordance with, uphold, heed, accept, go along with, acknowledge, respect, defer
I wonder if we can defer?
You forgot "grovel". Above all, one must never forget to grovel.
Grovel was a character on Dangermouse.
Well done igaftr
you didn't forget grovel!
I loved Dangermouse.
Austin,
The OT seems more in line with these imperatives than the NT. The NT seems to shift emphasis to love and redemption.
Sure glad you have that peace of character in mind.
Austin,
There is quite a bit of pragmatic realism in the bibles. They recognized the human nature.
Matthew 24:15 ►
"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel–let the reader understand–
how would the whole world , believers dispersed all over the globe all "see standing in the holy place" ?
Matthew says to us all........."when you see". but how would everyone see at this moment around the entire world?
In this context, 'see' may imply 'understand'.
So then Austin, you have demonstrated you have no thoughts of your own, but can only copy-paste verses from ancient books. You should really expand your reading material, just a wee bit.
the cut and paste is delightful!
"but the end is still to come" but not pleasant when it comes unexpectedly through a bullet.
ya but psycho people see that as a beautiful escape compared to letting a regional ethnicity reject them .
what other explanation is there for dropping bombs clear over on the other side of the world,,,,,,,when everything has been just fine here.
If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. 29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters."(Leviticus 26:27-30)
How to Use:
You might as well put on the Food Network, get some good recipes ready and hand them to someone next time a Christian fundamentalist tries to pull their piety card out.
Why does anyone bother to respond to you austin as obviously you have finished the required credits in the History and Theology 101 of your man Jesus. (Ditto for the required credits in Evolution 101.)
Case in point, your cited passages (assumed you are referring to Matt 24: 6-7?) fail rigorous historic testing. See for example,http://wiki.faithfutures.org/index.php?ti-tle=064_The_Last_Days and Professor Gerd Ludemann's analyses in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years
Oops, make that "YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED". Very busy getting ready to move to another city in a few weeks.
The Abrahamic religions and sects remind me feudal Ja.pan. The various Shogunates battled with each other for resources and power, bloody battles. ISIS is an uprising within a clan challenging the Shogun with brutal means.
If a foreign power invaded Ja.pan, the Shoguns would immediately unite and die in honor for each other to repel the invader. Once accomplished, they would go back to killing each other. Atheists are the 'invaders' that unites the Abrahamic 'Shogunates'.
For some reason, many religious people prefer others that renounce their God for another God over others that just don't believe in any God. Go figure. Maybe it lessens their insecurity. If someone believes in an imaginary being (the wrong God), that somehow justifies their own belief in their God.
great point man. And I like atheists way better than I like people who pervert the word of God!
there is nothing wrong with being honest, if you truly don't believe God. I pray for your intuition to be guided.
Austin,
That's good to know, I think that is a more sensible approach.
Austin.. problem is that other religions say you pervert the way of god.. and neither of you are able to prove that you have the correct version or even the correct god.. hence conflict either verbally, or physically as with the ISIS plague . This is the view that as an Atheist i see.
understandably man. and for the sake of atheism, that's the way it should be. We need to keep our definitions and their value pure.
Austin. If I understand your last comment correctly.... definitions of god abound I think but they are not valid to any other adherent of another believe system as no evidence backs any of it up.. God is a false, or at best unproven premise and so any definition can be ascribed to suit a particular situation .
Apologies if i misunderstood your context.
If all of the currently accessible gods are imaginary, competition among believers can only impede belief in the One True God, should someone come upon it.
Interesting point Tom. The same is true in human paradigms of knowledge, e.g. new scientific models are usually resisted for some time while people cling to the established models. Human nature I suppose. Of course in the case of God, there may not be any, while scientific models exist with proven predictive capability.
Regarding the Amelikites, whose genocide is defended by bible worshippers as being God's will, why is it less likely that Samuel, on his own, decided they should be dealt with by complete destruction? The God story provides a convenient out for people who can't face up to the true nature of the semitic tribes and their "prophets".
Samuel had a great scape goat, blame it on God.
ISIS are targets for killing, that's it. No need to crush the strain of religion that creates it or address the economic and political disparities in the world that cause it to grow.
I agree. When I read of this sort of brutality, I can't even recognize a shared humanity. That one fellow woke up that one day and said to himself, "Today can best be spent lopping off that guy's head. I'd best get to it." Sometimes it is embarrassing to be human.
Why are all the pictures of the Pope kissing and stroking babies?
Aren't babies off limits to clergy until they're toddlers?
The RCC deserves such commentary but keep the following in mind:
FEAR, SHAME and GUILT and COVER IT ALL UP, a standard response across the board with the "walking with god clerics" now forever walking with the common man–
Obviously ordination in any religion is not assurance of good behavior !!!!!
Neither is coronation!!! e.g. Henry VIII, King David.
Neither is marriage as 50% of those men convicted of pedophilia are married.
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Neither is being elected president of the USA!! e.g. Billy "I did not have se-x with that girl" Clinton, John "Marilyn Monroe" Kennedy".
Neither is possessing super athletic skill!!! e.g. Tiger "I am so sorry for getting caught" Woods.
Neither is being an atheist or pagan or football coach since pedophilia is present in all walks of life.
If someone is guilty of a crime in this litany of "neithers" they should or should have been penalized as the law dictates to include jail terms for pedophiliacs (priests, rabbis, evangelicals, boy scout leaders, married men/women, football coaches), divorce for adultery (Clinton, Kennedy, Woods), jail terms for obstruction of justice (Paterno et al Clinton, Cardinal Law) or child endangerment (Paterno in abstentia, Sandusky et al, Lynn) and the death penalty or life in prison for murder ("Kings David and Henry VIII).
Islam targets all non-believers, not just the Pope, as dictated by Mohammed in his book of terror and horror aka the Koran:
o "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
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"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:29-)
"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)
"'How shall I bear a child,' she [Mary] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?' 'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for Him...God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood..." (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)
"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)
"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)
"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
"Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)
Quran (8:12) – "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Quran (9:5) – "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
Such beauty. I'm glad you copied and pasted this once again.
Perhaps this pope will measure up to Pope Leo I who faced Attila the Hun. As the representative of Christ on earth he might lead ISIS to true righteousness in Christ. May he do at least as well as the priest who went to the Martian war machines in War of the Worlds.
Tom Tom..Nathaniel ......perhaps.. have you heard Jeff Waynes musical version.. brilliant
Let's see, ISIS is killing hundreds if not thousands of Sunnis, Shiites, Christians, Yazidis, and anyone else that doesn't fit their mold. A third hand hearsay report comes out that they are after the Pope and that gets the attention. People are so easily distracted by the "shiny object over here".
ISIS has no benefit going after the Pope. This makes no sense. They have a (demented) mission to accomplish and they have been very focused up until now. I doubt they would make such a incoherent move.
What makes more sense to me is that Israel is spreading this story as part of their campaign to tie Hamas to ISIS and tie that to Christian fear. It will probably work.
ISL all the want to do it establish a Islamic state, is that any different the Israel establishing a Jewish state? no, no it is not a theocracy is a theocracy and it has no place in a multicultural society the only difference between baptist, Jihadist and zionist, is at least the Jihadist are honest
Jihadists honestly bughouse crazy in ways we don't see in Zionists. Beheadings of children by Zionists were very rare.
Thesamayaza.. are you saying this is normal Islamic requirements? to kill those who do not subscribe.
no but its in their book, Christians and Jews two
hey yaza what up man? hows it been going?
I would say this ..........no where in the new testament is killing of anyone condoned. There is not a single verse, and the prophets have spoken and it is written.
the only mention of beheading in the new testament, would be a reference to Christian martyrs.
The Lord God is our avenger and we wait for Him to establish peace. The new testament is a gospel of peace. I hope if you don't feel like studying it that you will hear what I am saying here, and believe me.
Austin The Lord God is our avenger and we wait for Him to establish peace...well get your hit man of his duff.... the ISIS guys are waiting for this punishment..if they are not asking for it I do not who is.. You tell us simply not believing is a death sentence yet these degenerates with the horrors they excrete apparently have a free pass. I will say that god will not make an appearance as usual.. and this horror will be stamped out eventually by men....just a hunch.
Samyaza.. there again is the problem.. all the worlds most populous religions subscribe to holy books in which violence is advocated and allowed to promote their particular brand of superst-ition. It just takes a particular charismatic, insane leader.. as we have within ISIS, and we have the appalling horror they are imposing on humanity.
check out this link.
http://2127news.net/2014/08/is...
al Bagdaddy is wearing an Israeli watch or something.
http://2127news.net/2014/08/isis-is-created-by-the-usa-and-israel-here-is-your-proof/
the SECOND LINK IS THE ONE.
ya never know.
Yeah, there's a reliable source...but since you're only trolling, carry on.
TheTacticalChristian, Austin?
La Bella
I didn't read the disclaimer on that "tactical Christian" and obviously he is holds to the idea that Israel as we have it today over there, is not God's restoration. Have you heard of "catholic replacement theory".
right now theres a bunch of stuff circulating and there is also spiritual ware fare. The truth is really important. Do you think the Taliban might be ethnic Jewish people and the devil keeps messing with them? There are ethnic Jewish people in Iran.
the media is "dominated by Jewish control"
and that might be because God is in control.
No one can answer that question, or stop what the devil will do.
Austin,
Does TheTacticalChristian sound like a peaceful name to you? It's not a disclaimer. This is his name for a You Tube channel.
One of his videos is named "The Best Bug Out Bag Rifle."
It's amazing how 2 people can take the same set of data and come to completely different conclusions.
I believe we did create ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Taliban – we did it by training and equipping them to fight those we found less desirable at the time (insurgents, russians, iranians, etc.). And then, we abandoned them. And we we wonder why they're so PO'd.
But your claim of "spiritual warfare" is... interesting. Do you have any data to back this up or was it revealed?
ya the data is alive.
Bella,
ya that creeps me out , and he's obviously on the side of "the Jews and their lies" ...........or people like Stephen Anderson and catholic replacement theology..........teaching the "synagogue of Satan"
that is dangerous territory. "all nations drank of the cup with the harlot"
that means all nations.,
G to the T,
Yes, I agree the US created the instability in the region, just as you stated; I do not believe that the US created ISIS as some sort of covert operation, and that ISIS is operating on the US's orders...which has been posited by many people.
Austin,
Look this up:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersessionism
Posters here such as Ranier, Vic, and Theo ascribe to this, and they are so not Catholic.
LaBella – oh totally. Don't get me wrong, I'm some kind of conspiracy theorist. We created them through our lousy foreign policies, not via some conspiracy.
Right
Bostontola, ......why would ISIS want to attack our south border when we are having internal quarrels about shutting it down. do you think they want to attack the border?
NO WAY does ISIS want to attack the south border.
there is soooooooo much disinformation out there. like the link I posted above, they are trying to say Al Bagdadi is an Israeli op, and that ISIS is formed by these to shells from Israel and the USA, both shells have the name ISIS in real life and they are covert military private shells. or to that effect.
but this type of disinformation could also be a satanic ploy, and this is real right here.
if you place yourself as an enemy of Israel you will be cursed. I too am interested in the what if's but with 13 mil Jewish people in the world and 6 mil in the state of Israel, id just always stear clear out of being an enemy of Israel.............even while they are head deep in sin. We should exhort them and not write them off. They aren't obeying the NT and so they are going to be projecting idolatrous error.......that will never be what people want.
"but this type of disinformation could also be a satanic ploy, and this is real right here"
Odd, you speculate it is the work of satan, yet you can't see it in your bible?
think about it. If there were a satan, wouldn't hiding your agenda in religion be the perfect scam...and doesn't the history of christianity bear out the chaos, destruction and wars that satan wants?
It seems extremely likely your satan inspired or wrote your book, and you are his willing pawn.
igaftr, you make many very good and intuitive points. I try to be obedient to the word, because my knowledge of it doesn't always make decisions for me, but I have the word to abide in and that's my goal.
hows it going? do you watch college football?
yes, you calim to try to abide by the word, but you have no idea if satan was invloved, if any gods were invloved, or if it is all simply made up by men ( most likely the latter)...so all you are trying to do, is choosing some random thing that you have convinced yourself is worth pursuing....the very definition of blind faith.
I strongly suggest you get some non-religious mental health support....seriously.
"It seems extremely likely your satan inspired or wrote your book, and you are his willing pawn."
I've often wondered (if it were all real) if it wasn't Satan that appeared to Paul (who was "blameless before the law") and turned one of the most righteous men of his age into a tool that has ensured that almost the entire world has turned away from the true religion of Judaism? To me, this would be the one of the greatest triumphs a deceiver could achieve... and because of free will, God has chosen not to interfere. For as we know, the path is narrow and there are far fewer Jews these days...
exactly G to the T
They claim god inspired the bible, but considering the violent destructive history of the religion, it seems far more likely that, if any suopernatural influence was invloved, it would be satan.
Just review the history, the chaos of interpretation ( 40, 000 sects and growing)...it all makes more sense if you look at it from the point of view that satan is working.
It makes even more sense that men made up the whole thing once you realize there is no evidence of any supernatural anything, but if you believe the supernatural is at work, the bible appears to be a work of satan.
"According to Il Tempo, Israeli sources reportedly told the Italian newspaper that the pope is “in the crosshairs of ISIS.”"
Enough said.
Revelation 20:3 ►
He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
Israel is going to be persecuted. I don't think they are deceiving people any more than the united states is.
but who controls the media.
I am discouraged lately because of all the disinformation coming out in the last few months its getting out of hand. Like why would ISIS attack the border, when the conservatives have been griping about it?
It makes a great way to strike fear into the hearts of people who gobble up every word of political pundits who don't actually believe what they're spewing, but like the paycheck they get.
A house divided does not stand. Pope Francis is an antichrist. Allah is satan.
No.
Sometimes, the shortest answer is the most eloquent. Well done.
Yah.
You think Allah is Satan?
@bella: Lol, no just being sarcastic. Hence "Yah", instead of saying "yes." Or "I agree."
Phew! I didn't think so....
A sarcasm font is definitely needed, lol.
The insane Catholic "Sede Vacantists" (who claim the chair of Peter is empty, and has been since John XXIII) love to say Francis is an "anti-christ". The trouble is he's actually more Christian than most any pope ever. Instead of a Medieval Monarch with his court of princes, he actually acts like a bishop, instead of being carried around on a throne, fanned by Egyptian plumes.
funny that's what ISL says
"the pope is the antichrist and Christians are the devil"
look let me just make this clear Christians Muslims and Jews all worship Ahemait,.... ops did i just use the true name, i'm sorry
Well, there are 33,000 sects of Christians. Is that divided enough fer ya ?
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. John 10:27
Not every one who saith unto me Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:21
If ye love me keep my commandments. John 14:15
And this is his commandment, that we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1 John 3:23-24
The ones who are his are of one accord.
And yet the very people you disagree with will quote the same verses...why should anyone believe you?
The ones that do the will of God believe God.
I have to say Islam is not our friend wake up nor is 95% of the churches as the all bow their knee to the pope don't believe me look it up even all the world leaders bow their knee to him. Learn history and the symbols they all use. Here are a few to get started Nights Templers, Nights of Malta, Free masons, Mormons even our own Government. They all use the same symbols that go back to Nimrod of Babylon. also check out the oath of the Jesuit. You will find the higher level people do not worship Jesus but Lucifer. Now I did my part prove me wrong.
The world was actually created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All hail his noodly appendages and each of their mighty powers.
I did my part, prove ME wrong.
c'mon, she asked first.
well yeah, she was first, but I worship the real god and she is just a heathen.
Just wait until she goes to hell and I get berr and strippres. We'll see who's laughing then.
Exactly how would one go about disproving a collection of non-specific paranoiac as.sertions ?
I know, right?
I agree with you 100%. The leaders of the rcc worship satan. All of their traditions are idolatry. There is a video on youtube of pope francis and the other rcc leaders outright singing praises to lucifer in latin.
No.
There is not. Liar. Prove it, and link us to it.
YouTube is where blessed has done all of their exhaustive "research".
Ive included this link before. Nobody wants to look at it obviously. youtube.com/watch?v=6Jc61xBfcGI. Because you all are asleep.
blessed137,
You are a real scholar of Latin, aren't you?
I'll bet you also 'know' that peccatoribus is a large van for carrying certain UK politicians' pec.kers, eh?!
one of the helmets that the pope wars, the purple crown, says something in latin and it adds up to 666. and I agree that the catholic idolatry and the mary worship breaks 8 out of the 10 commandments, ...........
but I don't necessarly think that the pope is THE false prophet or antichrist.
I have seen other fundamental churches that make an idol out of error as well.
such as the incorrect doctrine on Ishmael, this is bigotry and I am surrounded by fundamental elderly white biggots and war mongers.
and the pope............I like him a lot, but not Catholicism , yet his character is more important. the pope did call for war against ISIS though, and if ISIS is a cia invention, then the pope should have no separation with catholocism from the fundamental church because they are all
ALL DRINKING OF THE CUP..............BABYLON IS FALLEN..............ALL THE NATIONS...............MEANS ALL THE NATIONS
What does it say in Latin, Austin?
Btw, Austin has 6 letters in it. If I looked really hard enough, would I be able to find the other two?
I'll just go ahead and answer my own question.
Want to know what it says in Latin? Nothing, because none of the Pope's mitres contain any writing at all.
Austin, many people like pope francis, just like many like obama. I had a witness from the Holy Spirit that obama is evil. You can go back to the other blog where we were talking about the tsunami i made mention of my testimony about obama. I know without a doubt that pope francis is evil. I will pray for you austin so you are not deceived. Be warned there is a flood of mass deception that is coming upon the world. Even believers who do not love the truth will be overcome and deceived. Many in the faith will and are falling away. The protestant church is right behind the rcc. Pray and ask the Holy Spirit to give you discernment. Fast and pray. Remember when Jesus told peter to pray so he would not fall away at the hour of temptation. All the leaders of the "world" are organizing a one world religion. Pope francis is part of this. I know this all sounds crazy. Its true. The new world order is the reign of the antichrist. Its coming and its here.
wacky vs. looney
there are many anti christs. There is also a false prophet like you said. So.
Did you see there is a youtube video with John Macarthur saying the anti Christ is for sure the Madhi?
its only about 6 minutes long. This is my gut feeling, that as it says "All the nations have drank of the Cup of fornication"
All the nations have. and I agree that the time is upon us, soon or is. OK but as far as that anti Christ goes, there are more powerful people than Obama, and the Pope. Obama is obviously a Bush CIA invention........He took the reigns of the u.s. as someone selected as a pscyh op, well in advance, to play out the end of Iraq with a different scheme. but it was all the same grand scheme, with Clinton, and Hagel, and John Kerry.
What sets the pope off, is being such a solidary leader..............and he is out calling for war against ISIS now. when really, ISIS isn't even all that. and besides if they were...........the middle east as a people could handle them if they wanted.
The Pope has basically bowed down to the deception.........and probably Macarthur too. Because no man of God, entrusted with the gospel as a preacher.............can prophesy and call the church to war, or a nation.
This is a transgression of the gospel . The participation in the act of death is Anti Christ.
bella, I cant remember the Latin words. it something in latin about a princess.
I don't think OBAMA or the Pope are big players. I would actually put Obama higher up because of all the unrest he caused in the places from the book of Daniel. But bush started that. I think there is someone that they are answering to, the elite...........the people talking about the new world order like kissenger..........but higher up.
time wise, Obama doesn have enough time left to cause any destruction. what if he turned it over to Romney?
Yes all the nations have drank from the cup. Which is why it is written "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues" Revelations 18:4. We are to repent and turn from our sins, turn from this world and have nothing to do with it.
The madhi is islam's messiah according to the quran. Its the antichrist, the son of perdition in the bible. He has not fully revealed himself yet. Soon to come.
Satan controls "the world". It would be very easy for his to change laws and allow for continuation of Obama to get another term. Do you realize that it does not matter who you vote for? They the "secret ones" put in who they choose. Its all a lie.
Bush is involved with skull and bones. He and obama play for the same team. Most, maybe all, of the world leaders do.
Some of the lesser leaders, the little guys, have no idea of what their involved in. At least that's my hope. Then again maybe not.
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ISIS is reported to have killed 1,000 per month for about a year or two . and in Syria there have been 140,000 casualties in the civil war..........
ISIS is about 1/25 as deadly as the US military was. we killed 1,000,000 people. we installed 2 democracies. spent a trillion dollars. and now we left and ISIS is in control now. and they killed about 25,000 people. (I may be wrong but I did look some numbers up)
but ISIS has 2,000,000 dollars and assets that are raking in money. someone is backing them. This ISIS is not who they appear to be. This may be the surrounding of Israel and a precursor to a nuclear war in the middle east too.
isis is worth 2 or 3 billion with a stead income of 3 mil a day.
they cant hang.
What about the Nights Boogie?
St. Wahlberg?
Nights of Talladega: The Ballad of Bobby Ricky?
Nights of Havana: Dirty Dancing II?
And let us not forget Nights in White Satan.
Never reaching the end,
Letters I've written,
Never meaning to send.
"Here are a few to get started Nights Templers, Nights of Malta, Free masons, Mormons even our own Government. They all use the same symbols that go back to Nimrod of Babylon.
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This was priceless, well worth a visit to the Belief Blog this evening. At least "Mormon" was properly spelled.
"Nights of Malta", not to be confused with the "Knights Hospitaller" or Knights of St. John of Jerusalem.
Just where is the Maltese Falcon and what happened to Joel Cairo and the Kasper Gutman in the end? (The stuff that dreams are made of.)
Free masons!
Free masons!
... I never heard they'd been imprisoned.
Oh my – LOL.
Smellie1313 – Nimrod immediately came to mind as I read your post.
Sooth-saying, omen reading, divination, (and therefore "prophesy" as telling of the future) were all forbidden in Leviticus.
I did my part. Look it up. Prove me wrong.
THIS is what bothers me about religion.
They are so sure that 'god' is with them that they can justify mass murder.
As usual, think they will win because 'god' is with them.
On the bright side, if the christians and muslims wipe each other out, the res of us will be better off.
Spoken as a true atheist Stalin and Mao also believed religion gets in the way of the better communist way of life.
Stalin wanted to get rid of anything that could organize people against him.
Mao had his own philosophy..
I want self righteous, homicidal idiots to go away.
Not really the same thing, is it?
Who would you refuse to shoot in the face if you believed your God was telling you to do it, eh fred? A muslim? A dark skinned guy wearing weird robes and a turban? What about a baby? Your mother? Your wife?
It only feels righteous when God is telling you to shoot people who don't look like you I guess...
Oh, and don't give me the copout answer of "My god would never tell me to do anything like that..." because we already know that the God you worship commanded his followers to kill tens of thousands in your bible not even sparing the women and chidlren in many cases, having his most trusted servants act as his executioner smashing the heads of the children on the rocks and even killing the livestock as he commanded with the Amalekites.
In the Days of Noah there were giants in other words hybrids eating every thing also drinking blood offspring of the fallen ones also after the flood those ones
you are crying about man don't you read try the 1611 KJV
How is that when it comes to the miraculous you pull out your scientific book of assumed facts yet when it comes to the Amalekites you take the Bible as scientific fact?
How could God say anything if God does not exist. If God could not inspire the writers of the Bible how could he inspire murder?
There is only man to cry over, there were no nephilim, no half demon, half humans roaming the earth ten thousand years ago, the idea is preposterous. We have the remains of humans and of neanderthals going back as far as 70,000 years and none show these supposed giants ruling the earth before a global flood. In fact the geological record proves there was no global flood at all. Might there have been a regional flood where some ancient people complained about the ferocity and violence of the neanderthal people who they were interacting with 20,000-30,000 years ago? Sure, but they were not "giants" and do not fit any of the other depictions of these supposed half breeds.
"How could God say anything if God does not exist."
I'm not saying he said it, i'm saying the bible makes that claim. It makes several claims of God telling people to murder other humans. You defend the bible as the actual word of God and so one must assume you believe that your God did tell those followers to behave that way. You make excuses for it claiming junk like "context" and "it was a different time" but none of the excuses can be viewed as valid if you are not already a believer trying to stretch your imagination around it so you can keep your flimsy faith intact.
The Amalekites were constantly attacking the Hebrew. Like the 8 year old Muslim boy holding the severed head of Christian last week one can only imagine what that boy will grow into. Moses was not perfect he could have been wrong. Perhaps this verse is a warning not to make 5,000 year old hatred get the best of you to where you claim God told me to do it.
As far as killing others that was the culture and a limit between the two groups. It does not apply to us. God has not directed such since 400 years before Christ. Christ further said love your enemy.
Tell me how hang onto the lie of social evolution yet demand believers not experience social evolution?
Yeah, those damn Amalekites not just turning over their lands and fields that God had promised to the Hebrews. I mean, didn't they get the notice of eviction he sent them the year before?
"Tell me how hang onto the lie of social evolution yet demand believers not experience social evolution?"
I don't mind your social evolution, I applaud it. However, when the board on the wall still says "If our God tells us to kill anyone, even our own child, we're gonna do it" I remain a skeptic even though the adendum states "but that hasn't happened in a really really long time so we're all good"...
Since when is mass murder and genocide "social evolution?"
Take your pills Ellie. Be sure the nurse knows you're playing with her computer.
hey fuck you ellie2112 you don't know shit about the nephilim, being is how i was directly involved let me tell you this the majority of nephilim did no wrong they were infants but because the possibility existed your god my father decided to smite them all go read Enoch even though it was written from Yahweh POV it Enoch still called for forgiving us, the only crime is we fell in love with humans and got married and had children. imagine for a moment you get married to a another race of person and the cops come to your door to kill your family
Don't the Cat-o-licks do murder every time they eat Jebus ?
neverbeenhappieratheist
"Yeah, those damn Amalekites not just turning over their lands and fields that God had promised to the Hebrews."
=>No, the Amalekites were wicked and opposed to God, they were opposed to the Chosen Ones of God, they also killed and took what ever they wanted from anyone not just the Hebrew.
=>The story line is basically that God has the right to remove any that would prevent his purpose which was bring the law forward to the day of Christ.
=>You like Amalek are opposed to the plan of God. Since the plan to bring Christ (the way) to the cross is complete you are part of the generations that are to love their enemy. It is wrong to wipe out those who do not believe and get in the way of salvation as the Spirit of God is available to any that want it.
"If our God tells us to kill anyone, even our own child, we're gonna do it" I remain a skeptic
=>Take note it as Saul of Tarsus that was out killing Christians and became Paul when he was confronted by God. This is the post Jesus reality. It was the Priests who out of their evil brutalized Jesus and his followers, it was the Priests who looked for justification to conduct evil via the God told me route. These evil Priests remain as do simply evil people.
I'm glad your god (the God of the Bible isn't it?) is restrained toward those that oppose it these days. It seems to be content with a lot of evil in the world. Has it mellowed over time?
"Take note it as Saul of Tarsus that was out killing Christians and became Paul when he was confronted by God. "
Common mistake. He did not change his name – "Paul" is the greek version of "Saul".
G to the T
Thanks,
Tom, Tom, the Other One
"It seems to be content with a lot of evil in the world. Has it mellowed over time?"
=>Setting aside my conversion experience we do have at a minimum a history of the Hebrew revelations of God and their relationship with God. No one has seen God so we assign attributes that fit our concept. If God only exists in the mind of the believer then God is anything and everything the mind can assign. Yet, in the physical we see only the effect of concept expressed through the individual. God funneled through the free will of man is the image of God in man. Collectively this cannot be the true image because each individual has adjusted it even Moses in the attack on Amalek.
Which human additions would we need to remove in order to see God..............all of them. There is no such thing as nothingness so when we strip away what man has added we arrive at some absolute purity. This is how we are presented before God when we are in Christ. That is the image of God in which we were made. Symbolically Christ on the cross, that bloody pulp reflecting what sin looks like on man died. It is finished sin has no more power than that. Evil has no more power than that which is the stark contrast of purity. Death is all that bloody pulp left behind while life eternal rises in Christ. The resurrection is the light and in the beginning God said let there be light and it was so.
God simply is and has not mellowed or changed neither has man.
Fred, you seem to be saying that your God can't be seen on its own. That is a weak god.
Tom,Tom the Other one
No, it is a testament of the overpowering substance of God. According to the Bible if you see God you die so people only get a peek of some kind.
Based on personal experience God reveals at a very powerful level that instantly transforms the soul. Saul of Tarsus was blinded by the encounter then began to see the reality of God in Christ. Just as Paul saw miracles I have seen miracles yet a non believer would say it was just an improbable coincidence
A physical manifestation of God would be a game changer as now everyone would know. All choices would now be limited to the tangible. Faith would not be needed as you could know God in the same way you know 2+2. God is more than that so you could not be limited to physical expression.
I don't think we mean the same thing by 'faith', fred. It seems you mean by it that your entire relationship with your God must be based on what you believe, not on what's actual. And this is because you could not withstand an actual experience of God. To me faith is simply expecting something reliable to remain so. I would need that actual experience of God.
Everyone who has faith, has had an experience or experiences.
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen". I'd thought this was what you have to go on, Robert. God hedges things for you?
Yes, in a way, God hedges things for all believers by bringing them to a point where they see their need for a savior.
Would you agree, there are things which can't be seen, but can be experienced?
Of course, Robert. I did assume that God was the absent Landlord. If God is around and interacting with people frequently and in obvious ways, I'd believe, myself.
He is, and does. God wants you to believe. If you think God is a possibility, would you be willing to approach him on his terms?
If so, go hear the gospel preached this morning. God has ordained this method and you are invited.
rb
First, you can't even show your god exists, don't know that it is male if it does (why would a single ent!ty need a gender) don't know if it has any "terms", and you don't know if it ordained anything.
All you have is what MEN said, and they were clearly often wrong.
If "god" exists, it just might be something that is not even sentient, but in reality, there is no sign of any "god".
Considering all of that, would YOU be willing to give up your pursuit of myths?
RB
Only sheep need a shepherd and of course the sheep must obey, right?
"They are so sure that 'god' is with them that they can justify mass murder."
I believe certainty (regardless of its object) can indeed breed this kind of thinking.
I am sure you are right, but man would invent some other fantasy to take their place. It seems that there is a small number of us that can live with reality.
Sick.
Not the story that ISIS is targeting a religious leader (which is as shocking as spiders targeting flies), I'm talking about that disgusting graven image the pope totes around like a magic wand.
Expelliarmus!!
If it didn't have Jesus on it, would you still complain?
Good point, many not catholic denominations have Jesus on cross because he rose on the 3rd day.
Writing error, Jesus is not on the cross because he rose on the 3rd day
LaBella, good question thank you. And BelieverFred thank you brother, for the observation; that's the common explanation of chuches that have a big empty cross prominently displayed in their sanctuary, and all organizations that use a cross as a symbol.
The second commandment warns against carved objects and worshipping them. So anything that reduces Christ to an object or a symbol in any way, or something that is a supposed concentration of Him compared to His presence everywhere, is a dangerous restriction and diversion away from the entirety of His Person and His work. Does Christ need a man-made object to work His will and to spur someone to praise Him? Absolutely not.
At its base level, a cross is nothing but an ancient instrument of execution. So where does a person's heart really go when they view a cross? If the object of a cross causes someone to place undue emphasis on the suffering, death, and even sacrifice and resurrection of Christ, at the expense of contemplation of His eternal divine nature and life of righteousness as a man, His creative power, His unobligated love for His people, and His place as perfect Judge and Ruler of all we know, throw it away. After all, an object is nothing in itself; every object in this universe is bound to fire.
ISIS wouldn't dare. They may be nuts but they're not stupid.
But if they could behead the Pope... More likely still, if would-be Isis leaders could do it for status.
They keep putting up stories about how the mob is after the pope and now ISIS is after the pope. I think that CNN and the Italian media are just trying to convince the world that the pope is an action hero. It sounds like a bunch of unsubstantiated melodrama to me.
Isis isn't getting to the Pope.
We can only hope not. As world figures go, the Pope is probably the most accessible.
They have to try to maintain where they're at in Syria. They know they're about to be rushed where they're at now. Obama saying there's no strategy right now is another way of saying that we're methodically planning a quick slaughter of Isis. Rushing only complicates things.
I hope you're correct, but I feel you are underestimating the possibility of a couple of motivated individuals acting outside the mainframe.